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    - The Official MSI GT60 & GT70-2OC (770m) Owner's Lounge -

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by IronSheik, Jun 14, 2013.

  1. bca009

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    No not yet
     
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    hey guys, new and proud owner of the gt60
    Just wondering if the turbo boost button is still available and if it isnt, where may I access turbo boost? Is it still a feature for the new gt60s?
    Also, how can i prevent these annoying finger prints on the palm rest, I'm typing with my hands in the air to prevent the annoying finger prints but its getting annoying also.
     
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    hey guys, new and proud owner of the gt60 :)
    just a couple of questions
    How can I enable turbo boost as I dont see a button for it
    And how do you prevent the annoying finger prints that show up on the palm rest, Im currently typing with my arms and hands in the air and its getting annoying.
    Thanks!!
     
  4. IronSheik

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    Assuming you mean Turbo Fan. To the left of the power button, the symbols are buttons.
     
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    For anyone wondering about battery life of this notebook, I'll post some results of a few tests I did yesterday.

    TEST 1 : Unplugged from power @14:30, brightness @50%, got a wireless logitech performance mouse plugged in. Wifi on and connected to home network. Keyboard backlight set to different colors just to see whether it has an impact on battery. Read through some of my favorite websites for about an hour and a half. Battery @89% at this point which is awesome. Youtube for another hour. Battery down to 70%. Basic word processing for and hour, battery @62%. Some funny episodes from some tv shows and some movie clips and battery goes down to 47%. And after that, I repeated the process, some internet, family guy, NBR, meme fun, gamespot......etc.... AAANNND.....after 4 hrs 48 mins, the battery went down below 10% and I plugged it in. I was very suprised and happy, for a laptop that has this high end specs, thats an awesome amount of battery life, nothing to argue here. So, I got curious, had doubts, decided to test again.

    TEST 2 : Basically the same as above, this time I got 5 hrs 11 mins. cool.

    TEST 3 : I wanted to see how long this notebook would last under the least load. wifi off, no mouse plugged, used the touch pad, brighness @30%. Basically, what I did was work stuff. Word and publisher mainly, with some excel stuff. Got an impressive 6 hrs 47 mins before I plugged it in. LOL!

    So, for anyone considering this notebook, know that haswell and optimus are awesome!

    Regards
     
  6. androidman1990

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    I receiving my gt60 today and should I do a 12 hour first charge? Is there anything else I should do on startup?
     
  7. aban714

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    You should take the time and configure it the way you want. Install the softwares you want, do some check ups to see if the notebook performs as it should. Check on temps after gaming, check to see if there are any keyboard issues. After all that, you can finally be sure that you have got a perfect system. Now, install your games, and blast away my friend. Enjoy your laptop! As for me, I cant be happier with my purchase.
     
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    Thanks for your response but what programs should I use for check ups? (3dmark11?) And which program do you guys use to check temps?
     
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    I use core temp
    Enjoy your laptop! I know I do
     
  10. androidman1990

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    Are those temps with cooler boost/turbo fan on? My temps are pretty high is there any setting I can change to lower my temps? (According to core temp my max temp was around 68 degrees celsius when using 3dmark11 and 71 when playing BF3 on Ultra/High.) Are my temps higher than usual?

    Also my gt60 got a P4950. Is that below average? I am on gaming mode in power settings. Is there anything else I can do?

    Finally should I update my Nvidia driver to 320.49 whql?
     
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    Assuming your GT60 is the 770M version that score is good.
     
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    Can I get a confirmation from the owner of a GT70 2OC about whether the display bezel is matte or glossy? I know that the 2OD has a matte bezel around the display, but I'm wondering about the 2OC. I went to see one in Canada and it was atrocious... nice matte screen with a halo of glare around it due to the bezel. Perhaps American models are more sensible....?
     
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    I have been playing Battlefield 3 for a few hours today and have had the HWMonitor temperature sw running during online game play. I have noticed that my temps on my CPU will Max at 90C. While my GPU usually max's at 76C. I have not repasted either of them. I was wondering if anyone had any feedback on what temps they are seeing and why my temps might be as high as they are, especially on the CPU.

    Any help with this would be greatly appreciated and thanks in advance.
     
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    So i have been testing my Temps out on Battlefield 3 today and what i have found makes me worried. While playing i had CUPID HWMonitor running to check the temps on my CPU and GPU. After two matches on BF3, the monitor was showing at a point i hit a max of 90C on my CPU and a max of 76C on my GPU. These temperatures seem quite high while i was running at High Graphics settings.

    I have not re-pasted my GPU or CPU, so they are both still pasted with the stock factory Thermal Paste.

    The temperatures i reached are to me frightening on the CPU considering the shut-off point i believe is 100C, Any help or information you guys can give me will be appreciated, I am still under my 15 day RMA.
     
  15. aban714

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    Those temps that I reported are without fan boost. wonder how lower it would be with turbo fan on..... but I see no reason to turn it on as of now 'cause the temps doesn't require me to. :D

    68c during 3dmark11 is normal. Nothing to worry about here. See page 3, paulnelson88 posted some screenies, and you can see that he hit 72c max temps after 3dmark11. I would only be worried if temps went 85c+ and upward.

    P4950 score is right where it should be, as Meaker said.

    About the driver, I would wait for an official release, last time I checked, 320.49 whql was still in beta.

    @matt89

    GPU temps are fine, but CPU.... its a bit high. I'm thinking a bad paste job on the CPU side. There have been many post on sloppy paste job on MSi's part, repasting fixed it easy. If you know what you are doing, repaste it yourself, it takes only a few minutes. But don't do it if you have any doubts. Send it to your reseller as you are within RMA.

    Also, could you share with us what kind of fps are you getting while playing bf3? I havent tried playing it yet, and some other users here are eager to know how BF3 performs on the 770M. :)

    Regards
    aban714:hi2:
     
  16. Vegetothe1st

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    Are there any glaring issues with the GT60 at the moment? I'm thinking of picking one up with the following settings:

    Matte Screen (default, any opinions on glossy vs matte?)
    GTX 770M (default, no option for 780M)
    i7-4700 MQ (default)
    16 GB RAM (8 GB free through Gentech!)
    1000 GB 5400 RPM drive (primary)
    250 GB Samsung 840 SSD (secondary, will reseller install OS here or am I forced to make it primary?)
    Intel Wireless-AC 7260 (why not future proof it for AC wifi?)


    Reseller is Gentech, final price is ~$1600.
     
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    Personally, I love the matte screen on this notebook. I had a glossy laptop before this, and I would say I prefer matte. No glare issues whatsoever.

    I think that the primary drive will have the OS. email Ken, and he'll be able to answer this 1000 times better than any of us. He's awesome.

    There would be no option for it in 022US and 024US. The 026US will have the GTX780M. If you have the money, go big,
     
  18. IronSheik

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    Should be fine if that's your max for extended gaming, If you notice it getting hotter you can consider re-pasting to avoid throttling that starts the 95+ range.
     
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    Just did a 3dMark11 Bench, really satisfied with the results! :D Also got the temps : max temp for GPU : 62c, max temp for CPU : 64c

    No overclock, no fan boost, no notebook cooler, stock paste

    Gonna update my post on the first page. Almost done with the game benches.

    [​IMG]
    3dMark11 Bench by aban714, on Flickr
     
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    Hey thanks allot for the feedback.

    I think ill get in and repaster both CPU and GPU with some Tuniq TX-4

    I'll run an FPS meter once i get the CPU and GPU re pasted and post a reply once i get you guys some good numbers.
     
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    Can anyone tell me the stock 1tb hdd model because Best Buy changed the hdd in my model and Im wondering if it is performing worse. Best Buy stated that it was a 7200 rpm hdd but when I looked up the model number it was recorded as a 5400rm model hdd but I still havent opened the back of the laptop to check the labels. It's a WDC WD10JPVX-22JC3T0. BTW my boot time is around 15 seconds. Is that high compared to a normal gt60?

    Also my battery life is around 4 hours on balanced so Im going to run battery calibration.
     
  22. aban714

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    I'm eager to hear the results. Good luck mate!
     
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    It's ~$70 more expensive to swap the order of the drives. Hopefully they'll give me the lower price?

    $500 extra is a pretty big increase for a graphics card boost! I think I'll just stick with the 770M if I get it. :p
     
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    Also, could anybody explain the difference between getting a SATA drive or an MSATA drive for this machine? Some resellers just offer a primary/secondary SATA drive with no mention of MSATA, and others offer upwards of 3 MSATA drives along with a standard SATA drive.
     
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    3 mSATA is available on select models. Its a special adapter by MSi which occupies the main (primary) HDD bay and its called super raid 2.

    MSi GT60 20C-022US does not have 3 mSATA
    MSi GT60 20C-024US has 3 mSATA
    MSi GT60 20D-026US has 3 mSATA, but this is the GTX 780M, hence the price.

    As for me, I went with MSi GT60 20C-022US, single 120GB samsung SSD in primary bay. I just bought another SSD which i'll install myself in the secondary bay.

    Hope this helps.
     
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    Can someone look up the stock 1tb hdd model number in the device manger program? Thanks.
     
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    Is installing a SSD myself in this machine straightforward enough? The price difference for setting the SSD as the primary disk is a $75 jump, so I may just buy the SSD seperate. I need to upgrade to Windows 8 Pro upon receiving the laptop anyway (using a different product key), and I'm unsure if this will require a complete reinstall of the OS and MSI drivers.
     
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    My GT60 2OC-022US came with the WDC WD10JPVX-22JC3T0 also. I ordered it from gentechpc and they list it as a 5400 rpm drive. If Best Buy told you you were getting a 7200 rpm drive they probably have some wrong information. I boot from a SSD, so my boot time is very quick, but I imagine 15sec is normal for a hard drive. Also, make sure you go into power options and change the settings so your hard drive doesn't go to sleep / standby mode. I noticed my hard drive was slow if I didn't use it for a few minutes and I could hear it spinning up every time it came out of standby mode. And for some reason changing the setting in Windows power options didn't work for me (possibly because it is my secondary drive?), I had to use a third party application called Power Drive Manager to stop the drive going into standby mode.
     
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    I'm just gonna leave this here. Temps after Skyrim gaming session. Mostly stayed in the mid 70s for CPU and high 60s for GPU.

    [​IMG]
    4hr Skyrim temps by aban714, on Flickr
     
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    Look at how the 770M (GK106) sips at the voltage there, very impressive.
     
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    Any one tried 8.1 on gt 2oc?
     
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    Along with my SSD installation question from the previous page, one additional question. MSI seems to heavily advertise the Killer network cards on their product page, and I'm curious if anybody knows how this card performs in comparison to Intel's new 7260 AC capable card (specifically on 802.11n networks, as 802.11ac routers won't be widely used for a while yet). The laptop comes with a Killer Wireless-N 1202 card by default, and the "upgrade" to the Intel 7260 is $15. I can't seem to find a site that has network testing results for either of them.
     
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    I had few problems with killer....but driver update helped it
     
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    Does anyone else get stutters when playing sky rim at high or ultra settings? I usually get them in first person mode but my fps is usually 50 on ultra and around 60 on high
     
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    You shouldn't get stutters at 50fps.... The GTX 770M is more than capable of running Skyrim at those settings. I think that stuttering might be a one time only thing, maybe to a restart and check?
     
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    Ill give a try but im thinking about returning my laptop for a second gt60 because this one is just acting weird. Im getting a bunch of force closes and not responding errors along with slow processes. Hopefully my second gt60 will be better.

    Does anyone know how to factory reset (without uninstalling windows 8. Just how it came out of the box.) the laptop so none of my accounts information is compromised? Thanks
     
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    After having spent about a month reading and comparing Asus, Sager and msi, I have finally ordered the following from PowerNoteBooks for: $1,726.00

    1 MSI GT70 2OC-065US-059US-017US Gaming Laptop - $1,726.00
    17.3" Full HD (1920x1080) MATTE LED backlit LCD
    nVIDIA GeForce GTX 770M 192bit w/3.0GB GDDR5
    Built-in Steelseries Backlit Keyboard - 24 Programmable Color Variations
    Intel Core i7-4700MQ (2.4~3.4GHz) w/6M L3 Cache - 4 Cores - 8 Threads
    IC Diamond Thermal Compound applied to CPU + GPU
    16GB (2x 8GB) DDR3/1600 Dual Channel Memory
    120GB Samsung 840 Series SATA III Solid State Drive - SALE! $30 OFF
    2nd HDD - None - 2nd HDD Bracket is Included
    RAID Disabled
    750GB SATA II 3GB/s 7,200RPM Hard Drive in ODD Bay
    Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader: SD/SDHC/SDXC/XD/MSPRO/MS/MM
    Intel Wireless-AC 7260 802.11 ac/a/b/g/n + Bluetooth 4.0 (Dual Band)
    Smart Li-ion Battery 9-Cell
    Windows 8 - (64-bit installed w/Drivers disk included)
    Full Range 180W Auto Switching AC Adapter
    MSI US & Canada 2 Year + 1 Year Global Parts & Labor Warranty + 1 Year Accidental Coverage + Lifetime Tech Support

    I sacrificed the Super Raid because 2 mSATA's are just too expensive for a 20% increase in read speeds.
     
  39. Vegetothe1st

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    $1726 seems rather expensive for that configuration, maybe it's just the screen size. You can get a similar GT60 over at GenTechPC for ~$1600, though the screen size is 15.6". SSD was a 250 GB Samsung 840 and HDD was a 1TB 5400 RPM model.
     
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    I had this problem before. The FPS would be high but I could still feel stuttering. It was a while ago, but I think I fixed it by changing the renderaheadlimit in one of the settings files for skyrim. I think that might be a setting in the nvidia driver settings as well.
     
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    Looking at getting this Laptop MSI GT70 2OC-065US for Video editing and Photoshop not for gaming,
    can anyone tell me if the GTX 780 and GTX 770 is there a big difference when using for Video editing?
    thanks
     
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    Just got my GT 70 unboxed. Going to download some games and benchmark them. Super stoked! The keyboard is just plain awesome, and this huge crisp display has me wowed!
     
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    Depends on what you're doing, I think. Photoshop supports OpenGL/CUDA for only certain features and whatever software you use for video editing might not have GPU acceleration.

    The 780m is about 50% faster than the 770m however, so if there is GPU acceleration you may get a sizable gain.
     
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    They did for me. They told me to add my Samsung 840 pro in the second bay and added a note to my order to put it in the first bay and make it the primary drive and that's exactly what they supplied.
     
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    Gpgpu performance doesnt always scale the way gaming performance does. According to a review hardware.info did in video editing a gtx660 is as fast as a gtx680 (desktop versions). Read the review here (use google translate)
    GPGPU-prestaties van moderne videokaarten | Hardware.Info Nederland
     
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    Thanks Phoenix, I e-mailed Ken about it and he said they would do this. Now to see if I can get a 780M installed without paying an extra $600... is the graphics card tied to the motherboard and only supports the 3x mSATA and 1x SATA, or is it possible to have 2x SATA with the 780M? I noticed it's an option with the GT70's, but not the GT60's.
     
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    My gt60 2oc reports an estimated 4hr 30min on battery saver mode and around 3hr 30min on balanced mode (both are on less than 30% brightness). Did your laptop also report a low battery estimation but just lasted longer?
     
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    I didn't really looked at that..... maybe I should've, during the test..... But I can tell you that right now, its reporting battery @89%, 4hrs 39mins remaining. 50% brightness, multiple tab browsing and some music through headphones.
     
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    Hello, everyone

    I have MSI GT60 ONC and want to upgrade GTX670M to GTX770M, so I bought GTX770M from eBay.
    ALIENWARE M17x/M18x; NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770M;3GB DDR5; MXM 3.0b

    Then I replaced it to my laptop that run in Windows 7. It showed me 8-bit color.
    So I installed Windows 8 and it run normally with Microsoft Basic Display Adapter (not found GTX770M)

    Here is screenshot from gpu-z that saw some informations
    [​IMG]

    I think it incompatible with Alienware subvendor VBIOS or it hasn't.
    Could anyone help me by send GTX770M VBIOS MSI subvendor?

    Thank you.
     
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    Hello guys. Finally I got my PC but sadly it came damaged. The DVD drive top (the part with the button) wasnt attached to the DVD and one of the 'thingies' (sorry for my English) is bended (the one on the right). Also, the PC came super slow and I got a BSoD. IMG_20130716_202639.jpg
     
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