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I seem to have that bigfoot boot agent issue. Cant' seem to disable it in both the Boot agent settings or the bios. Tried qutie a few other comments. Someone said it was because a new bios. Is there any unlocked bios for this PC out there. I have a GT70 2OC-65US

 

You can grab one from svet over at msi.com.

 

Hi there,

I just ordered two MSI GT70 2OC-064 (with the 1tb 5400rpm drive), we're looking at throwining in SSD's later when our budget allows us.
I don't see myself ever using AA in games as I find it has a minimal difference over FXAA, and the FPS his is far to great IMO. How do you find gaming performance without Anti Aliasing, using FXAA and with no AA at all?

I'm most interested in games like Skyrim, Simcity, Borderlands (although it does get a solid 60fps on ultra according to notebookcheck).
I'd love to see all the 2013 title FPS on High/Ultra with FXAA instead of AA.

Also, what's the screen like? I read that it's quite grainy.

 

That's why I got a "Glossy" 90% screen instead of the Matte.... WELL WORTH IT...!
Being HD it's so SWEET....

Unless you're in direct sunlight, Glossy is better in every way.

 

without AA gives best FPS.

AA gives you best image quality.

FXAA also provides anti-aliasing with less performance hit.

the matte screen does produce graininess in general. I love glossy screen but I have no choice but to use matte screen because there are 3 big windows behind me in my family room, I can't see anything on the screen except the background image reflect by the glossy screen.

 

Haven't played much Skyrim yet, but in the starting area I got 35-60 fps with ultra and 8xAA (overkill I know, just for testing purposes). So forget about FXAA in Skyrim, that one can be played with 4xAA easily.
I didn't play the other games you mentioned, but Far Cry 3 for example runs at 30-80 with PostFX on medium (this includes FXAA, higher settings just eat fps for stuff like motion blur, etc), MSAA disabled, Shadows on High and the rest the way it is on Ultra preset.
Here's a screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/Ineloyg.jpg

The screen's graininess is noticeable on white or bright backgrounds and of course its intensity depends on how close you stay to the monitor. Honestly it doesn't look bothering the way I use my laptop.

 

Hello everybody
Is there a way to change the film(two frames) and G(the windows panel) touch button function? Would be awesome if MSI were to include such a feature in the next BIOS update. I'd personally love to be able to set my fan speed at 50% without the need to run DPs fan control everytime i decide to go from average usage to a bit of 6 year old gaming @high settings and the G button could be assigned as a P2.

 

Hi folks,

I'm seeing screen tearing when using hdmi out, on the tv but not the laptop screen. I've forced vsync on but it doesn't appear to be working, is there something else I need to do or can it not be fixed?

Also, can I install windows 7 on a different hdd and be able to choose what OS I want to through boot manager or similar?

thanks

 

I had the same concern, spent hours verifying screen models and cross referencing asus screens used to this (same screen just no MSI locally to look at). In the end I went with the stock matte screen and it's great, don't worry about it. And I'm very fussy on screens and use the laptop for hours a day with small print... I'm happy and I'm known as "the returner" from going through many screens for my desktop years back... there is a slight grainy look, very very fine grained, but it does not bother me at all, and I really hate having to move angles all the time to avoid glare. The viewing angles are nice too, I was worried the vertical shift would be bad but it's good.

 

There will always be a slight graining with matte displays.

 

Well, I guess people are weird.... My old glossy laptop I've used all over the place, had it for years, and only on rare occasion do I have any "glare" and I simply don't notice it when I do, and never have to "move my screen" etc.
I have no idea what is with people.

Oh well.... such is humanity.... we all sometimes different. Maybe peoples eyes have slight variations, and like/see differently from each other.
I might not mind the 95% Matte, I heard it's good, though I haven't actually seen it, so can't say. But, a 99% Matte might work with me. haa haa

 

BTW, can anyone tell me why playing "World of Tanks" on my GTX 770 at High settings is giving me only 35 fps, and Medium only 35-45 fps???
Also, the auto-select will only give me "low".

I think I'm using the Nvidia card, things are fast and the Orange light is on. I haven't officially checked things with all the tools and all cause I would need to read the thread again to remember what to do, and I'm tired, I spent 4 days trying to fix my wireless issue and finally got it mostly fixed.

Also, are the:

Hybrid Power
SCM
SuperCharger
& Intel Rapid Storage Technology

....needed for anything for some things to work? What do they do?

 

Thanks for the replies,

I'm concerned with FPS cause I plan on modding the absolute muffins out of Skyrim. I'll probably be using no AA so I can use higher quality textures lol.

I'm also very concerned with heating issues. I bought mine from Amazon, and my friend will be shipping in from Sacramento tomorrow (I live in New Zealand, and over here it costs around 2.5k for the cheapest model)

He'll throw in some IC Diamond Compound so I can repaste it myself. But I'd like to ensure I have the best possible cooling solution. This is a 5 year solution in the Laptop department lol. Any ideas?

Is there anyway to DIY the cooling apart from paste? Xotic PC has a Extra Copper Cooling option, and there is bound to be other ways to cool it better.

Any advice for keeping your laptop for as long as possible. I was gonna get the 780m, but the powerdraw seems to high, and I'm getting myself and my partner new rigs next year too.

 

You will want to order high performance 0.5mm pads and replace all of the thermal pads on the GPU too, yes they are thinner and they should all be replaced with 0.5mm pads even if it looks on the heatsink they use different heights.

 

Normally texture packs only depend on VRAM and 770M has 3 gb of that. However, if you wanna load it with lighting, improved effects mods and what not as well, then you'll need to play around with the settings.

 

Your FPS numbers seem consistent with the results posted on this site. World of Tanks v8.0 Benchmarked - NotebookCheck.net Reviews

I'm sure you are using the Nvidia card. Integrated graphics wouldn't run that game at all. If you want 60fps you would need to lower the resolution.

 

Or do a massive overclock.

 

I got a question for the gtx770m card how to get past the 135mhz core limit on the OC. Only option is a Vbios flash? If so where can you find such editor or finished vbios?

 

Yes a vbios edit is the only option.

 

Is anyone else seeing screen tearing on the hdmi to a tv?

 

Never heard of 0.5mm high performance pads.

Sounds like ultra thin, super absorbant pads I should buy for my partner xD

On a serious note, from reading everything here, it seems as though the first thing I'll do is update the drivers to the latest for everything (especially nVIDIA and the Killer software).
I'm hoping I have no problems with the laptops :S
I'm fairly certain cooling will be my main concern, so I'll focus on that immediately.

What do you guys reckon the "best" thermal paste is?

 

I want to refresh my laptop and plan on doing a factory reset. (I want it to be same as it was when opening it. All of the stock MSI apps would be nice to have but I'm assuming I can reinstall them from the drivers disk.) Should I just boot into windows recovery and do a normal factory reset? Would that erase everything including drivers and MSI apps like sound blaster cinema? I wouldn't mind losing MSI bloatware but erasing drivers may be a problem. Thanks.

Plus would it reformat my hdd partitions. (i.e. my Data and OS Install partitions) I understand that the information will be erased but will the two partitions still remain two separate drives.

 

Not everything are on the drivers disk such as PowerDVD.

If you do Reset Your PC from Windows recovery it will reset everything back to factory settings, it repartition and format your hard drives and you loose all of your personal data but it takes about 5 hours to complete:














I suggest use MSI burn recovery program and create the recovery parition to USB and restore from the USB drive, it only take about 1 hour to complete the system restore.

 

This is the pad replacement material:

Phobya Thermal pad Ultra 5W/mk 50x50x0.5mm (1 piece) (CPU) [16102] from WCUK Online

 

I'd get these
Phobya Thermal pad XT 7W/mk 0.5mm (120x20mm) 2 Pack for Ramplex [19106] from WCUK Online
even though they are more expensive. Also think it would be easier to make the correct shape from them(worked well with my old inspiron 1520)

 

Hey everyone I brought the gt70 l I love it, windows 8 is a piece of , installed Win 7 on it, took a while to download all the drivers (Australian Internet Sucks) but it's perfect now loving it so far

 

Enjoy your MSI !

 

Thanks. I just have one question. If I restore using win 8 recovery will I still have all of the bloatware and software that came with the pc when I opened it or will it erase things like killer network manager or scm? Is there any difference between Msi Burn Recovery and windows 8 recovery?

 

The GT heatsink requires so sideways movement to install and it makes using the very non tacky XT pads a pain to get sitting right and the performance beyond a certain point does not make any difference anyway.

 

Both Windows 8 recovery and MSI recovery are the same, they both recover your partition from the hiddden recovery partition. both recovery will put every softwares back.

 

Thanks. I'm going to go ahead and try the msi burn recovery option. For the standard windows 8 recovery, if I select to wipe all partitions will both the os install partition and data partition be remade.

 

On the GPU bridge to the CPU heatsink, you can completely remove the thermal pad and put some IC Diamond instead:

If you select to wipe all partititions it will delete and recreate both partition.

 

wth is that? What have you done with your lappy? How abt the room temp? I got about 45 degree for the CPU, room temp is about 23-25 i think. My gt60 also got free IC Diamonds from gentechpc/

 

This method works very well for myself. I did a repaste and removed the thermal bridge pad back in July and its been great since then. Also using a fan control mod, with the fan set at 60-70% gpu temps never go over 70c and 80c for the cpu while overclocked on both.

 

What's new in firmware /bios

 

So you recommend just using IC Diamond (is this considered the best thermal paste) to replace the original CPU and GPU paste AND remove the thermal pads and paste along that?

Could you show pictures of where to repaste with IC Diamond? I'm quite noob with this. Never modied a laptops thermals before, and don't have my laptop yet to check it (I think I get it tomorrow )

 

I am your reseller GenTech PC.

I was testing the thermal pad and found out if i removed the thermal pad on the heatsink bridge from GPU to CPU and applied IC Diamond it works better.

Nice work and yes no thermal pad on the bridge works much better since both heatsink will have direct contact.

Only remove the thermal pad on the bridge and apply IC Diamond, don't remove the thermal pads on GPU and video cards.

 

I've tried this, but I don't get a pop up. Just a message that a device was plugged in, same as before. Any ideas?

 

Hi all

My new laptop (now over a month old) has started to really annoy me - it bluescreens upon waking from sleep and hibernate - EVERYTIME - This was not happening when I was using windows 8 - this started happening after I moved the pc to windows 7 (recently)

I think it might be a BIOS problem - as i did not update or change it - I dont know much about BIOS in the first place :S - I downloaded the latest BIOS but I have NO idea how to flash it to the pc - is there not tool that does this from the desktop? I remember flashing my old ASUS G75 in just a few easy steps - but MSI doesnt make this easy at all - and no instructions on their website either..

Has anyone else had this bluescreen issue when waking from sleep/hibernate?

Any suggestions on what I can do to fix this... as it cant be good for the pc to crash each time it boots up

Thanks in advance

 

When you extract the BIOS, run the FLASH.BAT file and it'll take care of itself.

 

Thanks for the quick response, I just realized that I was downloading the BIOS with RAID - when I should have downloaded the other one - So now all is fine
It resumed from hibernate and sleep without any issues - but ill need to do this a few more times to be sure - this usually occurs when I leave it to go into hibernate on its own - so lets see

I had another question for you - when I power up the laptop, I see the MSI logo and then it waits for a few seconds before booting windows - why the delay? is there anyway to make this even faster?

Thanks

 

So apply IC Diamond to the GPU and CPU, and repalce bridge with IC Diamond, or just remove?
I want to just do it when it gets here, but I can't risk screwing up lol

 

Yeah that's right, you want to remove the thermal pad that's in between the thermal bridge and the cpu.

 

what's different in new firmware

 

The thermal pad is just a layer? Would I replace it with IC Diamond, or not bother?

 

apply ic diamond just like you would on the gpu/cpu only you will need more of it. I kept the thermal pad and stored it just in case.

 

yes the thermal pad is just a layer, sometimes even 0.5mm are just too thick, direct contact are the best on CPU/GPU heatsink bridge, Rorschach's method works very well.

 

Sweet. That clears up everything.
You wouldn't happen to know where I could buy some in New Zealand?

Also, is there anything better than IC Diamond?

 

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Is this the thermal pad that you mentioned? I is just between the thermal bridge and the cpu heatsink? I removed it and paste some IC Diamond, but it's not any change in temp? Did you change any thing in Intel XTU?

 

Hey guys

Is there a way to disable the intel hd4600 completely? Using dual monitors is causing issues - the laptop screen is still being powered by the hd and switching windows between the screens is lagging