~GX660(R) Owner's Lounge~

update about fan swap:
both 12v 0.8A and 1.0 A doesn't work correcly - it's barely spin at lowest speed even with turbo fan cannot spins faster but sometimes but really sometimes for short time is spins faster.
additional both that fans creaking - that's not happening when I test it on external 12v 2A source with zalman fan mate, even connected to 5V line works without creaking.

Also test 12v 1.2A dell fan - works without [or with less creaking] but still had problems with going to faster speed - comparing to that ati fans it works better but far stable than original 12v 0.36A fan that spins always, fan speed changing is stable not like that 1.2A fan that between fan speed they slow and then go to the faster level of spins.

Finally - maybe some 0.5A fan should help resolve that Amperage problem and will be best if they spin in different direction that original/ati fan (dell spins in different direction)

About fitting that ati fans:
even mounting it directly under keyboard to metal frame (what I do) it's still goes outside the bottom acces panel :/

Of course other way to use bigger fans is to use external 12v linie but probably with manual regulations of speed

 

very interesting that it doesnt fit, I truly believe it should fit as I have measured and compared before when I had my GX660R before I sold mine... something I cant understand now, however, the hole in a diameter of fan perimeter can be accordingly cut out and raised grill fitted over the top on the outside of the lid. Since you found out the meaning of wiring, did you try it out with one fan tha'ts unmarked? You may try that if you havent yet

The unmarked fan has a really low mileage and has had no vibrations and no wear on the hydraulic bearing too, thus making it possible to spinn at any RPM nice and smoothly

All other fans do spin but mostly smooth on high RPM only, but on low RPM they do struggle and can get shaky... Just an idea if you havent thought of that...

 

im sure it's not fitting - but that's no problem if they works
without cutting acces panel only fits something similar to original height to make 10-5mm space to suck the air - any other need more cutting not only drilling for sure and mostly for safetly all inside

on external 2A - checked 4 of them - all works normally, even on 5v line or minimum allowed by zalman fan mate
i choose best of them to mounting and later choose other unmarked that marked 0.8A - results identical

they should work if not so low amperage or maybe something with fan volt regulations prevent it to works - i dont measure V and Amperage that MSI puts on fan lines.

 

Well keep on trying, its maybe 1 MM higher vs original fan assembly tops, you really need to try retrofit that.

Otherwise you may want to build custom voltage/amperage booster chip so it takes whatever volt/amp power from what's provided by MSI laptop fan wires and match to FAN's requirement, its not all that difficult and may still be able to fit inside of the laptop

 

Good day guys,

Recently i bought a 7970m which is pulled out from a MSI gx60 which uses clevo. I had modded my heatsink to fit the card in, however when i boot it up it goes into windows with a blackscreen and doesn't even show my bios before that. so, I am wondering if it could be used on my GX660?

Currently it is of the following specs:

i7 740qm
hd5870m
12gb ram
60gb ssd + 500gb hdd

I heard that i have to flash bios but i am afraid of flashing the wrong one. Much help would be appreciated cheers!

 

yes, you will need to flash it via blind-flash to DELL bios

 

Thank you for the fast reply. I am just worried tht the card is faulty at the beginning cos its my first time upgrading.

Haha , is it normal to have my laptop startup to windows with a blackscreen when changing gpu? It works fine with my 5870m though

 

^^ because GX60 and clevo laptops uses enduro dynamics switcheable graphics between CPU graphics and dedicated, it only activates dedicated GPU when heavy GPU load is demanded. So yes its normal for card with enduro to behave like this. And GX60 has enduro, since AMD CPU has integrated Graphics hence uses enduro to save power on the battery and yada yada.

Put 5870m back to your laptop and familiarize yourself with blind-like steps doing a bios flash, write down keystroke sequences so you can see what output youre getting while with 5870m inside, then prepare yourself DELL 7970m bios with USB bootable stick and swap 7970m back ,and proceed the blindflash.

Should be straight forward

 

Thank you so so much as i was worried that i got a faulty card

Thats really helpful information , i appreciate it.

Anyway, do you happen to have the dell 7970m bios with enduro off?

 

All DELL 7970m Cards dont have enduro/has enduro disabled by factory. So if you can search this forum or tech-inferno.com there are plenty of info and download links

EDIT: CHOOSE BIOS WITH 1.05V 3D clocks voltage

 

Thank you once again for the tips!

However upon compiling the files and renaming them for the usb boot drive , i accidentally hit enter on the bat file i created with the following command :

atiflash.exe -p 0 -fs -fp -reboot 7970M.rom

Cmd poped out and disappeared so i thought nothing happened. I was wrong
Did i flash my bios on windows without knowing? My 5870m now has the same problem with my 7970m booting into windows with a black screen.
Only thing i can hear is the sound. I am thinking of spamming F11 to boot menu randomly choose one of the bootable drives until inget to the one which doesn't make windows welcome sound. In order to flash my 5870m vbios. Is it possible?

Or can i flash vbios using smth like my usb to auto start my bat file on windows since it can enter Windows. The only problem is the blackscreen now. I may have to borrow an working os to make the usb etc. i am doomed..

 

Oh boy you have tottally messed yourself up, I couldnt have been more clear on how to do, if you only have read my advice TWICE this wouldnt have happened, nowI quote my message again with some step by step detailing of what you should have done

but instead you have flashed 7970m bios in to your 5870m CARD! How good is that for you? You just bricked your 5870m!

You really need to learn how to search help topics, there are many, and I mean it - MANY.

tip: blindflash doesnt require you to have any OS or hard drive in your laptop, boy you should have read everything SLOWLY and TWICE, this wouldnt have happened.

Your Windows doesnt boot because of GPU malfunction, its normal, fix this first then reinstall your windows whan you can see stuff on your screen.

My suggestion now is to use your spare machine, find appropriate instructions on how to flash your 5870m back to its 5870m VBIOS and then remove it from laptop, replace VBIOS rom with 7970m in to your USB storage, boot blindflash step procedures again and now this time flash 7970m DELL VBIOS to your 7970m CARD.

 

Yes i have followed what u had told me to very carefully. Now i cant seem to blind flash either of the cards with the command atiflash.exe -p 0 -fs -fp -reboot 7970M.rom etc. I tried flashin without hdd(s) only with my optical drive inside manually or with autoexec.bat file both still gave the same results. All i get now is booting into windows with a black screen. Gonna try hdmi/vga output now

 

no, you havent followed my instructions, if you would have had, you would have flashed 7970m VBIOS to 7970m CARD, now you got bricked 5870m CARD with 7970m VBIOS. How come following the instructions caused you flash 7970m VBIOS to WRONG CARD ... ?

If blindflash doesnt work for you - you are doing something wrong.

 

Oops for you m8

Like what UltraGSM has been saying: while you had a working 5870m you had the option of practicing the keystrokes needed to flash the bios. Because when done for real with the 7970m installed and the correct 7970m vbios file you will not have any visuals.. Hence the term 'blind' flashing....You cannot see whats happening. But if done correctly, it will happen and once done, the screen will be back on with your 7970m.

Probably the best option now is to use a second pc, to find an exact keypress guide (and files etc) to blind flash your 7970m TO THE LETTER.

I havent had to do this myself, but I'm sure it goes along the lines of making a bootable drive (usb stick) complete with the flashing tools and vbios. Then doing the keypresses required and timings to allow the process to happen!

Only hiccup, I can see (as long as the 7970m isnt screwed) is what the bios boot options are! This could involve taking out the C:\ HDD, if thats the first boot option. Otherwise it will boot windows and not your bootable drive (usb).

Good Luck.

Mick

 

So far i cant seem to get it flashed correctly i input the commands properly but perhaps the vbios i got from techinferno doesn't suit my card?

P.S : I practiced my keystrokes on a laptop without any ati adapter but when i tried to do it on gx660 theres no change. It just stays on until i shut it off. Can anyone upload the msi vbios of the 5870 and 7970?

Thank you !

 

^^

Did you create DOS-Bootable USB Flash Disk at the first place and did you try if it boots to DOS with that USB stick on another laptop??

wsup man any progress?

 

no no any progress beccause we don't have [or maybe hidden ] any other source of 12v inside MSI

 

Yea. I can see and i have memorised how to type the commands etc but am i using the wrong bios files? Its just black screen all the way

 

^^ you need to actually test your USB stick iin another laptop see if its booting to DOS and allows you to do command line, test and confirm you can do that, BE BRIEF

 

Hi Guys!! I'm having a trouble with my USB 3.0 in my GX660R
When I connect a device in this port, it works in a 2.0 speed. When I open the USB 3.0 Host Controller Utility, it says "USB 3.0 Host Controller Not Found"
In the device manager, it shows this message: This device cannot start. (Code 10).
I tried to update the driver and the firmware, but also with no success.
Can somebody help me with this issue? Is it a hardware problem?
Sorry about my english!

Regards,
Xavier.

 

did you try to reset bios defaults? After reset bios defaults try re-download NEC usb 3.0 drivers from msi support site and reinstall them, then restart and try again

 

It's also worth trying a complete CMOS reset by removing the CMOS battery for a few seconds (with the AC and main battery removed).

 

How can I do this? Simply reseting in the setup menu?

 

Hi, I would like to know if there is an official bios update for our gx660? my bios version is e16f1 IMS ver 1.0L,10/4/2011. is there an official upgrade that is windows 8 supported?

 

Hi Guys, Long time no post!
I am looking to buy a new screen before I sell my laptop. I want the best anti glare screen but cant find anything on here?

Also I did a great mod with the case to aid airflow. Adding a grill and increasing cold air in. Knocked a good 4 degrees off. Sprayed the grill and the top of the fan casing black so all looks slick.

I will post pics later.

Anyone can help on the panel would be great.

Many thanks.

Right done a bit of research.

This looks like the one...

AUO B156HW01 V4 V.4 LAPTOP LCD SCREEN 15.6" Full-HD AG | eBay

Can anyone comment?

Will finish it this weekend, (ie smooth off the wonky edges and clean up but you get the idea.

 

Hi everybody! i'm planning my "definitive" gx660 upgrade in this way: just received the original 7970m heatsink from Mejster msi, now i'm waiting for some news from pau1low for a brand new dell 7970m!
The problem: surely i'll need a good power adapter, someone uses a flextronics/delta 240w from alienware but the jack connector is different from msi, so it will need a mod that i'm not able to do...somebody knows how to do it? or can i find a different good product?
I found also a liteon/targus universal adapter 180w but dont know if it's enough to run without throttling my system with the new vga (i use a i7 840qm instead of the original i5 460m).
Please help holy guys!

 

Liteon or Targus 180W is enough for 920XM/940xM + 7970m

I love this. I would buy it and would have my old AUO AntiGlare for sale, its not as superior as this, but its anti-glare and has good viewing angles but price can be 3x times lower if you're interested

this is going to be nice

I have never ever had any problems with my 180W LiteOn PSU 940XM and 7970m. You should have one of the combination to tell facts if its enough or not. We are not talking about building laptops for running useless stress tests all day long, how good and how useful is that? its for everyday use and gaming. I did long sessions non stop gaming with my previous GX660R maxed out components never ever had a problem. 6990m eats more watt than 7970m and thats a fact. My old GX660R used to use 40-60w iddle and approx 170-180W on a very heavy load gaming. I see no problem with that

by the way, my current MSI uses never more than 160W very heavily loaded, and thats 52W pull by CPU using ThrottleStop settings and 7970m, never had a problem. I Have OCed my 7970m to 1GHz during tests reading was 169Watt pull from wall, still see no problem with that

 

no it's not powerfull enough for overcloked 920xm
even 230W isn't really good with 6990m for bench like prime+furmark then for sure 180W will be not enough for gaming

25x133 on 920xm without HT with converting video eats to 140W on the wall
160W with HT on [but that's too much for current cooling ]

i'm sure that in gaming should be more than 190W-200W but maybe I check for sure

not looking so good mean I don't trust that shop at all

i will buy from german B156HW01 V.7, 15,6", LED, glänzend, 99,90 € but version 4 B156HW01 V.4, AUO, 15,6", LED, Full HD, matt!, 107,90 € that is EXACT not the equivalent like most of them on ebay

 

thanks for your kind and fast answers! so, as presumed, probably a simple targus 180w could be the solution, since i'm not interested in stress tests, only in gaming.....someone knows if other msi gaming laptop (such as gx60 or gt70) comes with an original 180w with the same pin connector of mine?

 

all msi laptops I know have same connection, such as GX660 gt660 GT680 GT683 GT780 GT60 GT70. My GT683R came with original 180W Delta PSU

 

this is very interesting, i'll search for it! thanks again!

 

without battery ?
940xm on 25x multipler ?

 

Cheers ultra. I have bought the panel and will keep you posted on the fit.

Im glad you like the fan mod

I have the 180watt PSU. I have 7970 oc and 940xm oc and its fine. Never had an issue.

i will buy from german B156HW01 V.7, 15,6", LED, glänzend, 99,90 € but version 4 B156HW01 V.4, AUO, 15,6", LED, Full HD, matt!, 107,90 € that is EXACT not the equivalent like most of them on ebay [/QUOTE]



I cho0ose the one that was NOT equivilant. I spoke to them on the phone and it seems to be the real deal. Plus they do returns. The german site is cheaper for me though, do they ship to the uk? I cant tell as the site is in german.

Yes without battery and not 25 multiplier.

 

about lcd - they should send to europe without any problem - DHL service
i send them money for v4 today morning

then what multipler you use ? 26X - good cpu

fast test gta4 high settings [playable with 30-40fps sometimes less]
ht off
27x 1-2core, 25x 3-4core
185W easily with 6990m on 785/1050
highest noted [but Im sure that noted means really possible highest that be] - 193W
19x on all cores - 165Watt easily

testing Crysis3 beta multi with ht on 25x i get few times shutdowns - that means wattage must hit more than 230W (temp are safe not like 95C+ that could msi to shutdown)

edit
bf3 multi - stable 175W

 

Hi!

I don't have the (R) version of the gx660 but thought you could still help me out. My GPU has been wrecked for the past 5 months or so, suddenly it feels like it lost half of its power (after a series of bsod). Today I stumbled across your forums and found out about a tool called afterburner. Well I did some "clocking" and tested playing BF3, here's a screenshot of it:

imgur: the simple image sharer

imgur: the simple image sharer
(and there you can see the core clock or memory clock don't change..)

As you can see the GPU is being completely drained, and the settings in BF3 are all on low/medium/off. I used to be able to play it on max back in the beta with no problem, then after buying the game and playing it for a while the gpu died. BF is not the only game I cannot properly play, in fact it happens with every single game out there.

Also I'd like to ask: how can I get the "turbo" button working again, it hasn't worked in a while also?

Thanks!

 

gpu died ? what you mean ?
check in CCC power/powerplay options

 

Hello

First teste MSI 16F1

7970M+940Xm

AMD Radeon HD 7970M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-940 Processor,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-16F1 score: P6106 3DMarks

 

Thats a very good score for any 7970M let alone one in a slightly older system. Nice, shows it still has some legs yet

 

lower cpu score
AMD Radeon HD 6970M / 6990M video card benchmark result - Intel(R) Core(TM) CPU X 920 @ 2.00GHz,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-16F1 score: P3445 3DMarks
25x for all options

v4 arrived yesterday with one dead pixel :/

 

Sorry to hear that dude.

Will post when mine arrives next week.


In regard to upgrades my 660R now has...

AUO B156HW01 V.4 screen
i7 940XM
Dell 7970M
8gb Corsair Vengeance 1866mhz
2 x Samsung 840 256gb SSD
180 Watt PSU

Is there anything else I can add to this or have i hit the max this laptop can achieve?

 

^^ set up your ssd's in RAID0

 

I cant be bothered . Does it really add that much performance?

 

not much noticeable, but faster for sure, if thats what you want, I got average shave off like 5-8 sec difference in loading saving games etc when had my 660R in SSD RAID0 back in a day vs sing;e SSD setup. try and experience for yourself.

 

Hey guys, still nobody answered me... :S I sent an email to MSI, even did 3 threads on 3 different websites, I guess nobody has a clue and interest about laptops' screens' response time? If at least someone can just say yes or no, it can save me the time of looking for an answer through the internet xD, thanks though.

Cheers

 

Manufacturers most likely no longer mention refresh rate / response rate/time in milliseconds just because its a totally irrelevant in newer systems as very high spec is so common these days its just has become a STANDARD. Imagine you was born in south pole and I brought you first time to McDonnalds then you act surprise and its an event of a life time, then I show you all the different restaurants, pizza's and so on and on until it becomes a daily thing and no longer relevant where you eat as long as you eat. Thats the most simplest way I could have put this trough. If you run HWinfoTool (google it) you will most likely get all the info you need about your creen, if,not, you will surely get detailed description of your screen model so you can take that to internet search engines and see some data-sheets if any are available or just contact the manufacturer of the exact panel themselves and demand explanation about their product.

In another hand all new LCD panels should have 40-60Hz refresh rate and something like 0.02ms response time if thats what youre asking. Its just from general knowledge. Manufacturers dont explain what brand and timing RAM we're getting because it got so close to high specs as CL9-CL8 is almost a default standard in all machines nowadays, like deeper details as timings and voltage data since nobody but manufacturers and developer can only benefit from it. Thats why

And yea , stop stressing and searching, enjoy your life and a fine product of MSI youve got there

 

Hello, thank you for taking the time to answer. But 0.02 ms seems a bit unreal, because even the best external monitor don't even reach that speed. I purchased an external monitor to be able to play with higher refresh rate than the 60hz my screen laptop has. So now I'm really confused, if my screen laptop has 0.02ms and 60hz refresh rate, and my external monitor 0.2ms and 120hz refresh rate, I feel like only CRTs are actually still the best for gaming... which is right?

Sorry if I'm annoying you and it's the wrong place to discuss about it.

Edit: Oh and by the way I know the screen model the GX660 has, thanks to someone on this forum, and still, it didn't help me getting any informations about its response time.

 

I havent been gaming for a long time, I could have been very wrong, here is one example, datasheet of the very finest model everybody is going for as an Upgrade for their GX660 and etc 15.6 fhd best panel. One thats in GX660 is not far by the response time specs from ones in the sheet

http://www.taiwantrade.com.tw/resou...fe-b3a6-44ae-a02b-1e16ae7b70ed_B156HW01V4.pdf

dont take my words for granted always do your own research.

 

Amazing, thank you UltraGSM!!!

 

yo welcom