~GX660(R) Owner's Lounge~

As always thank you Ultra for your sound advice. I will do all of the above and list it at the weekend. Im in no rush to sell it so i will wait for the right parent for my baby .

 

Ive just fitted a 7970m in my gx660r, can you guys give me an idea how far these can be overclocked? And what sort of temps to go to?

My 6970 overclocked, would max out at 80C while gaming.

Cheers

 

Great stuff, Ive got my previous GX660r with 7970m iddle ~39-50c and on load it could hit 70-80s on stock and one card would not OC at all for me , other would Oc to 1GHZ easy in same machine, and on 1GHz it could be ~86-87c max on load... it will all depend on how good will be your DIY on heatsink, thermal pad job and GPU compound, plus the environment temperatures...

Current GT683R with completely shaved NVIDIA modded heatsink my 7970m iddles 29-35c, heavy non gaming use kicks card towards 50-60c gaming would be also about 70-80c, and I could OC this baby to 1GHz+ but stock power is more than plenty for me.

I wouldnt recomend OC straight away and run it of all long since you get it, unless you're seriously stuck for POWER... in another hand if youre so stuck, go DESKTOP and skip all the hassle

 

Well I ve just been playing farcry3 for an hour, while logging the temps:

GPU @ 900/1300 gets up to about 78C
CPU(920xm) @ 3000Mhz up to 98C!

Keeping things nice and warm

I havent tried to push the 7970m, just picked an overclock and went for it, doesnt seem as extreme as what others can do tho! But a nice start for me
The cpu, sadly is at the limit, no matter how I repaste with Arctic4, when I have both GPU and CPU flat out, the temps get high

3Ghz is the sweet spot to keep the cpu under 100C and so not to cause thottling ( which I understand happens at 100C)

Mick

 

98C almost ready to shutdown
check if you disable HT in bios prevents that high temperature

and for XM +3GHz [3.3Ghz 25x is the limit] you need to polishing cpu heatsink and also recommended drilling holes under the fan to get air outside the laptop and put something under the back side of the lap to lift it litlle higher that default feet or whatever name of that things is to create more space directly under the fan

i can with similar modification 25x in gaming or converting videos but wihtou HT -- HT adds from 50W-idle, 135W-withoutHT to 150-160W on CPU with 4cores loaded in example hybrid with x264codec and get's easily 95C and growing to shutdown , no HT stays max 90-91 [fan table is important to keep it aggresive]

@UltraGSM
mailed maybe ?

 

^^^ wazaaaAAAAA!!!

nop... didnt find time im sorry, but i really intended to. however I have gathered 4 fans all together , 3 of them condition unknown so I marked them, and the one of them 4 is very very good condition like new, so use it when your prototype units proved to work after all possible cutting shaving and other physical and electrical fan altering will post monday 200%

 

By HT, you mean hyper threading? If I disable that (havent looked in bios yet) surely that will cripple the perfomance of the cpu? I would of thought that most games and apps (video encoding) use the cpu to its full capability. I know when I encode home movies with Cyberlink Power Director the cpu load goes up to 100% and the cpu starts to cook!

So surely there is no point doing this just to go up in clock speed by a small %

Mick

 

If you sell it, please, please, give me back my money. I am not a rich person, and you still own me money. Couple of times you told me that you will send me money, but you did not. If I knew what person you are, I would never agree for you proposition.

 

Fight between HT-ON v HT-OFF
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Testing on 920xm, Throttlestop of course always active, TRL for all possible options the same, power saver ON for 19x and 21x multipler, disabled for 25x

bolded better [faster options]

In 25x with HT on wat usage never goes more than 140W measured on the wall, temp never goes more than 90C especially in HT off where much more fluctuated [the same for power usage]

EDIT
That's source file is easy to recompress but having better source file [bitrate much bigger, eventually better codec ] - i can't handle with 25x and HT-on for long because temp goes >90c, watt usage 160W and cpu usage is much more bigger than [about 90-100% total cpu usaget] then max 50-60% for HT-ON test for file tested here.

EDIT2
Much more demanding files - that use in HT-on and HT-off near always 100% cpu usage

that's surprise me

21X multipler isn't possible with HT-on 2pass and shutdown, 150W if i good remeber

Summary:
Better total Cpu usage by apllication = use HT
worst - use without HT

 

how much money exactly he owes you and what is your paypal? I will pay you so you can be Xtra happy and stop spamming, because that's all I see here, so either take it in person with him in any way and matter you can do it and try solve it privately and stop crying out loud in main forum section, or give me your paypal and the amount of money and currency.

Couldn't make it sound simpler I think

 

@vwrafi
its £3.50 if i remember correctly? its not that much really to be hassle with, but in all fair and square, yes he still owe you that money and its his fault if he doesnt meet the agreement, but really, just like ultra said, you should resolve this with him personally, either report through the forum admin or paypal or whatever, you shouldnt spam it here. we will definitely put your words into consideration when we are dealing with savier1, but thats all there is to it when its concerning to this forum.

and savier1, i dont know whats the deal, but settle it with vwrafi before ultra pays up, its not his or anybody responsibility but you two guys.

thanks and good luck

 

Probably in near future i update my screen to B156HW01 v.7 or matte v4 but need some opinion if it really worth it ?
Current lcd is B156HW01 v.5 - comparing to v4/v7 in viewing angle is much worse in top/bottom and all rest you know already - but looking into http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...-between-different-screen-options-photos.html viewing angle not looks much more better then on v0/v1
Then need opinion if it really worthy upgrade, maybe other screens comparing v4/v7 to standard lcd ?

maybe some ah-IPS with 60% gamut color worh upgrade to get best viewing angle ?
http://monitor.espec.ws//files/lp156wf3-slb1_546.pdf
or slb6 [with fixed red looking like orange

 

@debianik
for me its really worth it, not just from the viewing angle point of view (which is the biggest winner here), but also from sharpness and colors, its just really noticeably good, and really easy on the eyes, compare to the v.5. its not only the gamut that matters.

my advice is, buy screen that alot of people bought already, so you can find some picture comparison, so far the best you could find is the v4 and the lg screen, but i forgot the serial number.

 

V4 and V7 are identical model just V7 has less coating and its glossy, more reflective like you know, and requires more cleaning as you can notice every dust particle on the glossy surface so easy, where in mate finish V4 its not as noticeable in dust particles and stuff and its far better all around screen, especially if you brought it outside on the sunny day YOU CAN STILL SEE EVERYTHING!! In my opinion these are two top range screens you can get, look no further. Now only need to decide if you need glossy or mate. V5 is worst screen I ever had on my laptop. even after upgrading to LG screen when I had my GX660r if you remember I have posted about it and the model and etc back in this thread it was amazing upgrade from V5, and yet that was just extra 10-20 degree better angle and just slightly better colour gamut vs old V5 ... it had so much richer colours moving from V5 I was so pleased with it. but if you want to buy new lcd for optimising computing experience dont save few dolar where its irrelevant scarifying end product quality, buy the best at first time and you will not be disappointed.

 

heh fast answer
Then is decided to auo v4 versus v7 - for what i read/found v7 is more attractive if don't need mate lcd then probably buy v7 because i don't have problems with glossy lcd so far

Only good things in LG is that IPS and much better viewing angle but 60% gamut color :/

interesting site https://hackpad.com/Best-Panels-Wiki-D5UvkrtVvJ9

edit
anyone suggest how to calibrate or show own calibrating settings [i know that not 100% good but good to read how someone change default options ;P]

 

is that IPS tested at least? I mean in relation to work with our laptops?

Im sceptical about them, id go with something thats known to be the best, unless you want to experiment you're good to do that, oh by the way, look here: http://i48.tinypic.com/35m2z9h.jpg

thats yours, posting today

 

yes i found it should work or atleast in hp envy 15 one guy replace it works [but it's thicker then ips]
http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...5-ips-red-vs-orange-tally-33.html#post8376146

edit
nice bunch of fans

 

AUO V7 or V4 FTMTFW!

 

oki
because not so easy to find that two LCD then need some good source in Europe to buy it

 

There you go, buy that one

NEW AUO 15.6" B156HW01 V7 FHD SCREEN "FedEx or EMS EXPRESS!!" | eBay

 

It's that proper price ? If that i need to ask if in Poland have in stock v4 in similar price

 

^^^ YEA thats what they cost, as you are getting the very best screen of that kind expect to pay 100-150 for that kind of LCD only. It really means alot, when you get one and install it then you will see what have you paid for and you wont regret it. I am thinking upgrading my panel to mate V4 my is somewhat neither V4 nor V5 but its 85% gamut and good viewing angles at the moment, but I also want to get the very best soon.

also, that seller says:

so you may ask him, but remember the dead pixel policy, its a bullet you're going to take, the risks are always possible of having some dead pixels unless seller would be keen enough to run trough tests before shipping it out so you are more than 100% sure there will be no dead's

 

Im expecting to 130$ but if that cost little more I can live with that - most important that's 100% v4 or v7 not like v4 glossy

 

It was 7 GBP. This is how much he owned me. He said once the CPU will be with him, he will pay me remaining 7 GBP. So I said, that because of the trouble I gave him, he can pay me only half of it. So it is 3.50. It was my decision to make it less. And I see that he got the CPU in his hands, everything is fine with it but no money on my PayPal. I wrote few times to him, but no response. He even stopped posting here. So I thought that he died. But few days ago I saw him here, so I wanted to remind him about the money. My paypal is [email protected] and it was 3.50 GBP.

Super Mario is not as honest as he look like

 

We all know the story, I didnt ask for the explanation, it sounds so immature what you've said, this is just clearly stupid.

There poor fella take my 3.5GBP if that's how painful is for you, and if I was messed and ignored by you as he was I dunno maybe I would have had same attitude to you too, who knows, but for fact I know story has hidden truth and neither I care or want to know any more details about it so do not bother wasting keyboard time, please, no need. If you read in more, you should realize, buying house, moving stuff from one house to another, having family and stuff Savier describes in his previous stuff has much more importance than silly few pound you try cry out around so desperately, I couldn't do that, I would be ashamed, but please, no offence, there are as many opinions as there will be individuals, so each for his own.

just my 2cent

 

better hide name in screenhot

 

Why hide? Is he a convict or anything like that he should be ashamed of? He is one poor fella, no need to be ashamed, you get what you ask, people can donate him if they feel it is appropriate

 

I am not as lucky as some of you. I do not live in a country where you can buy a new laptop for half of your monthly salary. I need to save 4-6 months to buy laptop, and I really mean SAVE. But yeah, feel free to laugh, it is good for your health.

 

Im not ranting or laughing here at all, neither anyone else, so you're talking about me in precise. You have all the power and possibilities to do or become anyone you want to be or do what you really desire to do, its only you who set yourself a limitations of whatever limitations you have now as you describe. Every one of us was born with no money or knowledge and as time goes by, its up to you to chose what you are going to do with your life and yourself. If you havent worked your last bones off to achieve what you have ever dreamed to achieve - DON'T COMPLAIN YOU'RE POOR and yada yada , YOU HAVEN'T EVEN TRIED YET!
if you continue save all your life you will never gonna have anything, so get up, get yourself together ad begin to do something from the very simplest point that gets you somewhere from point A to point B, so then you continue going and doing progress, and saving is what is least you should do when you begin moving. and stop complaining

No offence

 

how working Crysis3 on 7970m ?

 

is it out yet?

I havent tried if it is lol


too busy with house stuff... I think it will run approx 30fps + on ultra, I heard someone tested demo on M17X R3 with my cpu and 7970m

 

im talking about mp demo on origin
medium and 30+ [really 30 limit need to test it without vsync later ] but possible drops in bigger battle to under 30fps

 

maybe its cpu where it comes to play? I havent tried anyhing

 

it's for sure 30fps limit but should be 60 for vsync - atleast looks like last time their do new double-vsync
gpu usage around 60% then its for sure limit

cpu 55% to near 80% [without HT]
http://www.nhl.pl/index.php?showtopic=64189&view=findpost&p=643330

 

Ive got 3x4Gb (12Gb) of Corsair Vengeance 1600mhz ram coming next week, would some one be kind enough to share their bios settings to get the most out of this RAM please

Last year I did buy 8Gb of Kingston xmp RAM, from the members market here, flashed my GX660r with the appropriate bios to enable the XMP, but found that the RAM must of been faulty or something because it was horrendously unstable, and crashed windows 7 constantly. Even at stock settings So that put me off, and I put the stock 6Gb (4Gb + 2Gb) memory back in. And its been faultless ever since.

So now I've decided to upgrade to NEW memory, and just want to get the bios settings correct.

If someone could post a screenshot of their settings that would be great, or typr them out for me

Cheers
Mick

 

Anyone?

pretty please
Mick

 

with all due honesty, I think anything more than 1333Mhz is pointless waste of money for the tinyest squeze of performance that you wouldnt probably even notice at all. Best shot for your system is 1333Mhz CL9-9-9-9-24 RAM 4GB x 3Sticks, or even lower timing if you manage to get it, and I am not sure if XMP will work on this series chipset. Just my experience and opinion

 

I forgot which sites I read, but the sweetspot was 1600mhz RAM right now. There was a slight but nice couple of fps bump from 1333mhz to 1600mhz, however there didn't seem to be much difference in faster ram for most games. The only real "bad" ram per se was 1066mhz, so make sure your machine correctly sets memory in auto or 1333mhz, as mine came with bios settings forcing to 1066mhz.

Crysis 3 on High (not very high) should run at 60 or so fps with an HD7970m, as thats the overall performance I get. Very high drops performance to 40s, and doesn't seem to improve anything graphically. This is all coming from the beta.

 

Two of the sticks came in the post, just waiting for the 3rd to arrive. Dunno why amazon didnt ship them all together

Anyway 8Gb is installed and after faffing around trying to remember which buttons to hold to get into the extra bios, they are now running in XMP mode

Anyone know the differences between running profile 0 and profile 1 ??

Ive just left it at profile 0.

Mick

 

post your CPUz shots of main and memory sections, Im sceptical it runs anything but decreased 1333Mhz and default timing

 

Hello everyone, I just have one question, I can't find any information about it anywhere (I almost gave up), but I guess one of you can help me. So I also have a GX660, bought 2 years ago, still running great, I wanted to know the response time of the screen used for that model, I can't find anything about it, why does nobody mention it? Why don't we get any precision about laptop screens' response time when we purchase one? Is it a stupid question? Maybe it's useless to even mention it because it's impossible to have a low response time or I don't know haha. Anyway hope someone can enlighten me on this. Thanks

 

Mick

 

after all your ram runs max at 1333Mhz with latency of 9-20 ... mine was 9-24 wih standard kingston 1333Mhz budget ram from ebay, worked like a charm. Only noticeable performance Id imagine you see only in your 3dmark and etc benchmarks,not in everyday use, I highly doubt being honest.

 

Yeah, Ive just been doing a bit of checking and when I went back into 'advanced' bios, the xmp was disabled

After multiple attempts it wont 'stick' and reverts back to disabled, profile 0 & 1. And although I can set the bios to 1600, cpu-z still shows at running 1333.

Oh well, at least I have more memory now than the stock 6Gb I was running with!

Mick

 

Its the CPU that puts the limit in place, if you adjust FSB but drop CPU multiplier, you can force your RAM to run higher frequency... its experimental, I havent got enough experience in this

 

fans arrived
big hungry fans - maybe tomorrow I will look into cooling

 

very cool

these fans are the most serious you can get for that small factor, one fan is able to cool 2 x 5870 GPUs Overclocked to 1GHZ per core , so take it real (and I meant desktop GPUs)

 

i trust their power of cooling
but also need quiet under idle - at this moment one of them works connected to zalman fan mate an lowest voltage

next problem is width and height :/ bad bad that's to big - then need to make new box for fan
good things thats spins in different direction - that should help more cooling cpu heatsink than gpu

 

yellow cable is RPM cable (I think lol) and other three Im not too sure, investigate, you've got 4 spare donor fans you can burn up, and one thats unmarked on the sticker - this is perfectly fine so use it at last when you are 100% positive with wiring and etc.

I suggest use no box, take out your keyboard and fasten it to the firewall that separates keyboard and old fan assembly. this fan sucks air strictly only trough the top so if you have a hole in the bottom case lid for your fan thats fine, if not, make one for it, and erto fit some nice mesh over it so your knees dont get sucked in to the laptops interior during the tornado that you'll be making soon!

 

lastest modification with usage of Al "channel section" and velcro to stic it with case with possibilty to dismounting it [size 25mm x 27mm]
now it's safe to use with 25 without HT in any jobs on knees

one problem is in 90 angle of that channel section - need to bent it a little and also angle of msi keyboard now is bigger but still possible to use keyboard

also last time i drill much more holes but that doesnt help in more efficient cooling


about wires -black-ground, red- 12volt, yellow like you said that third most important wire for stable working