~GX660(R) Owner's Lounge~

Jep, the price truly speaks for itself and i totally agree with you that this is a really good combination .

I mean, 900€ for the laptop one and a half years ago and now 400 just for massive storage improvement B).

For me personally some image editing programms (i do a lot of DSLR shooting, that takes some space) will go to the SSD and for storing these i have then enough mobile space to take with me.

Exactly, two SSD would be the icing on the cake but never the less it is a matter of money and rationality . One SSD is more than enough for me, and now as is works as it should, thanks to you, i am more than happy with my rig. It´s like a whole new system. Really worth the effort.

 

Yes it suppose to give an increase in memory operations, you can enable lower Cas Latency times etc and higher speeds , but I am not too familiar how it works, so yes, XMP menu should be enabled and you could chose profiles between Profile1 and Profile2 but I cant guide you how to set them up(if they are not already setup, I dont know) try and see for yourself.

Some people reported with XMP profiles some RAM modules arent stable gives windows BSOD errors and crashes, and some worked very well, so Itrully believe its all experimental

Thinking how CPU uses RAM and at what speed,theorically memory in GX660R should not be run more than 1333MHz because of CPU memory controller is not supporting anything more than 1333Mhz, unless whole BUS clock is raised - it raises all along the cpu and memory clocks then... probably XMP is something that allows to clock memory separately

read here:

Intel and Overclocking DDR3 Memory

 

Just installed my shiny new i7-920xm in my Medion X6811 (rebranded GT663). A very nice performance increase over the 740qm i had previously.

What throttletop settings are folks using for their 920xm's?

Interesting discussion on storage in the previous posts. I've taken a different route:

Laptop came with 2 x 500Gb 7k rpm drives. These are now in a 2.5" external enclosure (supports RAID0, RAID1, JBOD through eSATA & USB) and I just have 128Gb Crucial M4 in the laptop.

I though this was the best route for me as it gives me some redundancy (external drives in RAID1), makes the laptop a bit lighter and gives more power headroom for the 920xm and a better graphics card further down the road.

The 128Gb is sufficient for windows, the couple of games i play and a 20gb Wubi Ubuntu install.

PS; the medion bios reports its model as X681X - I suppose it is now!

 

watch your battery charge levels when hardcore gaming especially if you tweak any little bit over throttle stop, if your PSU is 120W model consider yourself new PSU of 180W otherwise you wil experience fatalities like battery dischargign during gaming while plugged in, and weird system lags freezes and shutdowns, psu failures, like its on but not providing power to run alright.

What GPU youre runing?

 

PSU is 150W. I have a watt meter and keeping a close eye on things.

GPU is GTX460m

As I type with the battery charging, its using @90W with the machine doing feck all and TS disabled. And thats with the LCD off and outputting to a TV. With battery fully charged, LCD off and machine at idle, the laptop draws 30 watt.

 

nice, then you should be just about fit for the whole setup but I still believe you can run in to serious issues if you OC the CPU to very max, as with 920/940 cpus you can go sh!t crazy high with some serious kick-@ss speeds. How are temps with 920xm on iddle and wprime on 1024m loads?

Im on 940xm, once PSU makes here I will be planing run stock setting @ (either 24x 24x 24x 24x @ 66w/65A) or more likely 25x 25x 25x 25x with TDP75/TDC75, but all needs some runtests and measures on power pull stabiliuty and stuff... as long as I fit to 85c+ border on wprime stress tests Im happy. but its very different per every system and so per every chip, so you got to start of from very minimal tweak settings and run test after test raising settings to where it meets your PSU/COOLING/STABILITY limitations combined

 

Haven't run any wprime benchmarks yet though did test with the game this is for - rise of flight. Its optimised for quad core and does give your cpu a good work over. At stock speeds the 920xm gained me 10+ fps and temps were lower than with the 740qm - high 70's. The 740qm would quite often be low 80's.

As rise of lfight is little known and has a free to play mode visit About Game / Rise Of Flight - next generation PC combat flight simulator. Only applicants for the twentyminuters need apply!

 

hmmm interesting, lower new cpu temps could be coz of a new better thermal paste used... mine was over all in any step approx 10c+ from 740qm... just to be able to play any game again I moved down to 740qm temporarily till psu makes here, and then im switching back to 940xm for good.

wprime would stress sh!t ouf of cpu so you see the most realistic worst scenario of temps you can face and you would know if its safe to run your cpu for extended times at this or that setting etc, just an idea

 

The lower temps will be due to the better paste - Antec formula 7 nano diamond. I do intend to benchmark but for the moment i will enjoy the stock speeds. Had enough excitment for one week what with upgrading the CPU, installing SSD, copying data to the old HDD's now in the raid enclosure and reinstalling windows etc.

Too much like what I do for a living!

 

I have the 150w PSU, And i have atm a ssd, hdd and a gtx460m and a i5 460m, should i be okey to upgrade to a 920xm?

 

maybe you would be just fit with 150W psu, my 120W psu failed on me with stock settings of 940XM and 5870m, wasnt providing enough power and then I noticed battery discharging. You should try and see, if psu is too weak, just get 180W psu, but somehow ithink you will be just fit for 920XM stock CPU with your config. Altho if you are going to OC your CPU and GPU you want to go 180W PSU just to be sure

 

Been running wprime tonight:

32M test with 25 across all cores and TDP 85W/80A completed successfully with no throttling in 8.08 seconds. Temps hit 77-78 deg C.

Playing ROF with this setting and gtx460m overclocked to 800MHz gpu/1400Hz memory/Shader 1600hz had a max power draw of 130W at the power outlet.

Very impressed with the 920xm as I've been able to increase graphics settings, get smooth fps all with lower gpu temps and the same CPU temps as the 740qm. Pretty much confirms that with the 740qm I was cpu bound and not gpu bound as I'd previously thought.

Still want to get a faster graphics card though!

 

72tdp(gpu) + 55w(cpu)=127w so it should be fine I will buy a adapter( I dont know what they name at english is xD) so i can see the watt usage And overclock it max 140w. It should be okey?

 

You will be ok with the 150w PSU, 920xm and gtx460m as thats what I have!

Just be careful running cpu at max and charging battery at same time - I saw mine go over 150W earlier this evening.

Overclocking to run at 25 across all 4 cores and overclocking the gtx460m mine was running at 130W. Note I have only the single SSD in mine so if you have a platter HDD as well add @6W to your power draw. Noticed in another thread you are thinking of getting 12Gb RAM - remember that needs power too. I have 6Gb 1333Mhz in mine which is enough for games/media. Less RAm will extend your battery life too.

Was worried about the effect on the battery of the 920xm - mine reports 2hrs15 with 15% wear when fully charged - not too shabby.

 

Its weird how I failed to run on stock TDP and TDC on CPU and stock multipliers and stock 5870m clocks and memory, I had full 100% battery yet was still starving for power of my 120W PSU, my 940XM QS model is 55W TDP standard, unlike 920XM ES as of 65W stock... just weirdness... im just waiting for my PSU so Im safe with reserve

GPU Overclocking has nothing to do with CPU, I cant think of why you couldnt OC better your GPU before... weird

 

Oh I could overclock the GPU OK but I think it was having to wait around for the 740QM to do its stuff. I just find it interesting that the gpu temps are lower at the same overclock iwth the 920xm.

I suspect your extra RAM/HDD may have helped push you over the 120W. Think the 5870 is greedier than the 460m too but may be wrong there.

 

very possible... it all depends if you run more CPU dependant game thats where you see the performance impact... but cant explain lower GPU temps after CPU upgrade ... lol... maybe you used better paste on GPU too?

I got way better temps after replacement of thermal compound on my GPU

 

I have always the battery unplug when I have the psu plug into my computer Yeah, i will get 12gb ram. It only cost 578SEK(76$)
Will this fit into my computer? First i will buy this 2 WEBHALLEN.com - Corsair 8GB DDR3 PC3-10600 1333MHz SO-DIMM (9-9-9-24) (CMSO8GX3M2A1333C9) (2x4GB) and then this when i get my 920xm WEBHALLEN.com - Corsair 4GB DDR3 PC3-10600 1333MHz SO-DIMM (9-9-9-24) (CMSO4GX3M1A1333C9)

It is a swedish website but they will fit right?

EDIT: Is it worth to get a bigfoot networkcard? Do it help?

 

first of all I suggest you run GPU-Z at least to identify what is your current RAM model, so if you already have 1x4GB ram etc I suspect its 10600 DDR3 Kingston as it was default for this model, then you need just two more identical make and model and speed RAM dims to make it perfect combo or need to purchase all new set of 3x4GB if want to make total 12GB RAM, wlan card was best 30eur spent on this laptop, improved over all very well, strongly recommend if you feel your WLAN could connect better and you want loose WLAN problems after coming back from sleep modes etc!

Best upgrades for any laptop and especially gaming ones are SSD Drive to replace no mater how fast HDD, and then goes GPU and after that CPU, so I would say get RAM and get SSD drive, all these along with 920XM will give you a very nice power range

 

I allready have a 80gb intel ssd
I have 2 2x2gb 1066mhz. It is not kingston and not corsair, I dont remember. But i cant check it now, Because I have use my warranty. The gpu just get error and sh*t
Okey, but can i find a better bigfoot card? A newer? When im home i will use the cable but I will too use the wlan sometimes
I cant find any 3x4gb set...

 

For RAM:

Kingston 4GB PC3 10600 (DDR3 1333) 204-pin Laptop Memory | eBay

get 3 pieces of these,

For WLAN: I chose 1102 Killer-N since it suits my needs, im sure there are other more advanced ones too, but im pretty happy for what I payed

if you wanna hottest piece of cake go with one of these WLAN cards:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/19/...e2200-ethernet-controller-bandwidth-priority/

 

Okey, how long will the shipping take to sweden? Btw, i have a gt663 computer

And how hard is it to change? I know it is 2 under the plastic plate, but where is the 3 slot? under the keyboard? And where is the wirreless card?

 

if you have never taken laptop apart before and you are new to these things just dont do it yourself, bring it to best PC specialist shop in town, or if you wanna take carefull lesson how to do it - follow procedures of this video:
MSI Notebook GT660 --- Disassembling - YouTube

2 x RAM chips are on the back of the laptop, 1 x RAM chip is direct under the middle of your keyboard.

To acess keyboard you will have to remove the access buttons panel near the LCD above the keyboard, and prior removing the keyboard make sure you loosen all the screws on the bottom including the panels screws youre going to remove.

WLAN card is half size miniPCIE so dotn buy anything that is full size miniPCIE card, as in fact BIGFOOT Killer-N 1102 is half size dual antenna WLAN card. Known all GT660 GX660 series laptops to have just 2 aerials fitted so purchasing KILLER-N 1103 is pointless which is 3-antenna design.

For someone first time doing the job may be difficult or even dangerous damaging components or the whole system, specially you need to pay attention in extra careful disassembly and all shall be fine

 

okey,I have work with a lots of PC desktop. But i have only work with like 3 laptops. The wlan seems to be harder to change...

Btw, Why cant i use the corsair ram sticks? First i buy 2x4gb ant when i get a i7 i get a 1x4gb? Btw, what happend if i dont install the 3 ram into the computer? And use a 920xm. I guess it wouldnt start?

 

It will start it will work and it will perform probably slightly better than with 3 sticks LOL as i7 first gen mobile cpus doesnt seem to have tripple channel memory controller so extra memory is beneficial for extra room but not for performance.
Short Example, my GX660R came with 2 x 4GB sticks installed from factory, I was getting Windows Score 7.3, I installed 1 more identical stick to make total 12GB ram, performance score dropped to 7.2. That was while I had i7-740QM inside, after I upgraded to 940XM cpu it came back to 7.3 windows score on memory.
You can use your own prefferred memory brand just make sure it is compatible with your system and all sticks are same brand and specs for optimal trouble-free setup.
Your laptop will run with either 1 2 or 3 ram sticks no biggy

 

Oh okey I will buy the corsair pack When i get my gt663 back. Do my motherboard support 1600mhz? At intels site: Intel® Core? i7-920XM Processor Extreme Edition (8M Cache, 2.00 GHz)) i find this: Max Memory Size (dependent on memory type) 8 GB. why can you use 12gb then? xD

Why i ask is because i dont want to open the keyboard and stuff like that.

Btw, this is pretty f*ckt up. At msi site it stands only the GT663R support RAID0 but at the packet i stands raid0 support, and i have a gt663...!? And i can't use RAID0 but it stands at the box... Bad msi...

 

Why can't you use Raid 0? I am pretty sure you can. Ahhhh I remember. You need to upgrade your BIOS to the GT663R I think. There was a similar issue among GX660 and GX660R owners. But as far as I remember it was a matter of BIOS only. Consult and try to find the answer with GT663 owners.

 

really not sure whats up with the BIOS RAID options in my medion GT663 rebrand: the ctrl+alt+shift+ins extra bios options has options for enabling RAID levels 0,1,5 & 10!

 

I call its pretty simple, you wana trust data sheet of 8GB stats on 920XM context table? OK fine why do you question 1600MHz then if you noticed 8GB? Its obvious First generations i7 cpus doesnt support more than 1333Mhz for RAM. I run personally myself 12GB ram in my GX660R, so as most of others out here I believe. If you dont wanna open keyboard - then dont, if you dont wanna upgrade laptop - then dont break your laptop apart coz probably thats what gonna happen and blame is gonna be on you coz nobody else gona touch it but you, so dont wanna break your laptop just dont mod it and dont try catch a fool somewhere here.

Advises I gave were genuine and based on own build experience. For sure you will be just fine with your 8GB ram, just dont update to 12GB save yiurself time and money, dont upgrade your wifi because probably you wont benefit from it since you probably dont even experience any problems with your current, and your 920XM cpu will be just fine runing @1333Mhz ram with 8GB DDR3 capacity combined.

Good luck

No offense

Learn

 

I will test this when I get my laptop back

Okey, why i ask about 1600mhz, is because I probalby gonna overclock it

I have DECISION OF ANXIETY xD I dont know if i am going to have my gtx460m and upgrade cpu and ram. Or if i should upgrade to 7970m and stay with my I5 460M and overclock it a little bit and buy 8gb ram...

Do the 920xm bottleneck the 7970m?

 

I have never heard or seen anyone with i5 CPU and 7970m yet! I believe it will bottleneck if you throw 7970m on first gen i5 cpu. 920xm and 940xm will not bottleneck anything, these are most brutal 1st gen i7 cpus you can get. Its all for you to decide, when 7970m will be publicly available Im sure I will get one, it will be perfect combo in my situation:
i7-940XM
7970m
12GB DDR3 @ 1333MHz
120GB OCZ Vertex3
180W LiteON PowerSupply

Thats my choice


Standard tested steady unbeatable 1333MHz and vs OCED UNSTABLE 1600MHz ... if you succeed in your rig results will be uncompareable by real world usage,1600 vs 1333 will give you probably few miliseconds in noticeable performance where memory is highly dependant, but more I suspect you get troubles BSODs and headache VS nice and stable 1333Mhz, wanna go crazy go SandyBridge or Ivy bridge laptop and rock there with Crazy XMP and superior new 3rd gen or even 2nd gen i7 cpus.
I would not risk too much but its up to you, please try and report how you got on, I would be very interested to know

 

Well if my experience is anything to go by, upgrade your CPU first before getting a new graphics card.

i'm seeing a marked improvement over the 740qm with the 920xm. In riseofflight i've gone from running at 1366x768 to 1600x900 and been able to increase graphics settings all while running at x8AA with 2x supergrid sampling (needed to kill shimmering - game engine problem).

So with the 740qm I wasn't getting the best out of even the gtx460m.

 

excellent point, after that may run some RAM monitoring tool while loading your games or softwares to MAX settings etc etc and see if your 8GB will be necessarry to expand anywhere in speed or capacity then after you will see what you need more

 

Okey, I will get 1 920xm Where did you buy it?
I will get a targus 180w to my msi too!(I find it at the market) (Or should i but this instead?) Swedish ebay site And could i use my EU cable instead of the US cable?
And 1333mhz ofc 12gb ram corsair Because I dont like to wait to shipping from another place xD

Which desktop cpu could i compare 920xm too?

Okey, thanks!

 

My 920xm is a QS model (though it has the SLBW oem code) from upgrademonkey (formerly laptopmonkey).

 

I've tried your unlocked bios but after the flash I restarted and everything is still locked

I have it on my USB bootable DOS and with afudos bios.rom /P /B /N everything goes to 100%, I restart but it is unchanged and still locked. Are you sure you uploaded your modded version?

Just re-installing Windows and stuff, kinda want the memory running properly at 1333, not 1000.

 

whatttttttt Geo do you have a 660 back ?

 

Never sold it, gave it to my dad lol. The unlocked bios I used previously was in Xonar's thread but all links megaupload -_-

 

Happy Geo's dad

 

Has anyone tried to set overclock to 24% in BIOS? My 460M works stable on 3.46 Ghz in Turbo mode. CPU-Z Validator 3.1 My 3dMark '06 score with 285m raised from 13200 to 14600.

 

Could GX660 owners overclock direct from the BIOS?! I cant do that in my bios...

 

OK so I tried it and I found some settings I moded did save and some did not, like RAM deafult frequency which I set to AUTO, it still remained 1066mhz, and XMP profiles did not unlock for me either. Aint the XMP suppose to allow changes and become enabled when XMP supported RAM is installed ONLY? like 920XM/940XM series CPU gets installed it allows to access features like TDP/TDC and multipliers settings from BIOS but with non-EXTREME edition it would not show these features.

I will have to do more editing and some research.

My bad for the disapointment

 

Do someone know a bios unlocket too my gt663? So i can overclock my cpu

 

SHIFT+CTRL+ALT+INSERT

enter advanced BIOS menu settings

find {Overclock %}

and increase from whatever % you have to whatever % you wish to try , dont go too crazy I advice increase 1% at the time and try for about half hour gaming and see if its stable, if you get BSOD decrease overclock %

 

Okey, i will try it when i get it back! So this is included in the bios from start? But when i click SHIFT... i must be in the ''normal'' bios when i do this i guess?

I know how to overclock I have overclock desktop cpus But could i high the cpu voltage?

 

its same thing just more sensitive environment and components so have to be extra cautious and careful. Just run explore and see what you find out, I suggest try before ask million questions if stuff you're about to approach already part or more than part-familiar to you.

good luck

 

UltraGSM do u know if corsair vengeance xmp profiles load ok with the modded bios with xmp profile enabled and i7-740 processor?

 

cant tell coz I run non-xmp enabled RAM so duno... I believe it should load... wondering about getting XMP capable memory and see whats the crack but havent got a time to think about anything yet due to busy schedule ...

 

Hey guys, I am using an HP 5870M while I wait on the 7970M:



Unfortunately editing the voltage in the bios from 1.05V to anything higher has no effect on temps or clocks so is obviously not working.

Oh well it will do for now

 

Wher did you get your heatsink? And when will you get your 7970m? ^^