~GX660(R) Owner's Lounge~

It looks like I have to do an RMA . Has anyone else had to do one before? If so, what's the turn around and service generally like?

The gradient banding issue I'm having is apparently due to a faulty GPU.

 

I've had this baby for nearly a month now, it's awesome (managed to solve most of the issues already).

Just one small thing bothers me. I bound my P1 key to an .exe, but when I tried using it it gives an error (I believe it's due to the nature of the application). I want to rebind the key, but I can't figure out how. I read the user manual, but it only says:

�� Press this sensor to launch the User Defined application.
�� Or, press this sensor to launch the Windows Search function.

Nothing about reconfiguring. I cannot imagine it isn't reconfigure-able, so if anyone knows how, I'd welcome the solution.

 

The problem with this laptop is the 1920x1080 display its way to much for this garbage laptop fair enough for a 17 inch screen but for the lossless 15.6 inch its fairly useless.

It cant hold a steady FPS in anything unless you drop the res and even when you do want to drop it it becomes blurry this makes me sick that i spent over a grand on this machine ........

Lucky enough for myself im phoning MSI and will most probably order a replacement scree which has native res of 1366x768.

Lower the res the better it plays the games.

After all who the hell wants a Full HD laptop ? what for ? its screen is no where near the quality to watch movies in the first place.

I love the laptop don't get me wrong but in 2-3 months when im steady with cash its going to be sold and i will go for a better lower native res next time this serves me right .

MSI however still don't see the light with new models still having full HD screens they fail for gamers massively.

I don't see much progress from MSI Asus however lets just wait for sandy bridge.

Still not confident.

Prepare for my full video review soon it will detail much more .

 

Got to disagree with you mate.
The screen isnt the best, but its not the worst either, if you are watching at the sweet spot (which you should be its a laptop!) it looks really nice. The only time the viewing angles issue will be a problem is if you are watching movies with others (i dont).
As for running games at 1080p, i get a solid 50+frames maxed out in black ops, 40fps running Nap totalwar in high detail, 40 fps maxed out in civ5 etc, so i dont know what you mean, plus the advantages in real estate and 1080p wallpapers, outway the pros of having a 720p screen, what a waste of a really good graphics card! 720p screens are a necessity of cards like the 5650 that cant do as well at full HD but not of this card!
I could not be happier with my laptop, for the money i paid it is fantastic!

 

this^^
tottaly agree unless im showing people something im not too bothereabout viewing angles.
the only games i played so far have been fine even look great

 

Read his post again. He's talking about gaming performance, not viewing angles or sceren quality.

If all you're gonna play are games that don't demand the most out of the 5870 you can't really speak from a gamer's perspective.

I've got almost 300 games on Steam, and I can say games like Dirt2, Crysis, BC2, Mafia and also lots of upcoming games will have the 5870 struggling at 1080P.
At 1680x1050 I can get 40+ FPS in Dirt2 maxed, while in 1080P it might drop down to 25-30 which becomes unplayable for me. The card is simply not powerful enough to provide enough bandwidth for demanding games.

 

OK i reread his post
''The problem with this laptop is the 1920x1080 display its way to much for this garbage laptop''
It is not a garbage laptop.
''It cant hold a steady FPS in anything unless you drop the res''
Simply not true, you want to give names of games that mght not run perfectly on ultra in 1080p? try listing the games it will max at native res? it will be a much longer list!
''Lower the res the better it plays the games.''
If you mean it plays them at a higher framerate then yes it does, Black Ops @ 600x480 @ 500 fps anyone?? The point is, that at 1080p you see a lot more detail than at 720p.All you need is 30-40 fps at a decent detail setting, maybe not even ultra or max! whats wrong with high!
''I love the laptop''
sounds like it!

And as for the 5870 not being able to play games of the future, well if only there was a card that could play any game in any year all i know is it will play them a darn sight better than most other cards around at this moment in time!

 

30-40FPS is unacceptable for FPS or TPS games for most people.

But if you're comfortable with it, more power to you.

 

Dont dumb down my questions and answer each one you must read it how it is all of what i said above is factual words.

I could of made a better system given the resources they had to make this one.

Yes i agree the display is handy with some things however on the gaming part of it its utterly useless packing a massive 5870M equal to a 5770 desktop card in a tiny 15 inch package is completely ridiculous.

Having owning this machine i absolutely love it however i just don't get why MSI make a 1 grand gaming machine and you cant even drop a decent res without getting blurry screen.

1366x768 Native Res for this laptop would be perfect for the ultimate gaming machine they mostly ruined everything about it by packing an awful full HD screen for what need ? i bought this laptop for gaming not to admire its glossy Full HD screen .........

Yes the sound may be ok and all but im still not confident the money i spent is worth it.

Consider this give me the resources it took to build this notebook i bet you any money i could of made a much better quality system.

FACTUAL WORDS.

Albert Wesker

I expected more of you

 

yo Asuss you really got to stop complaining; no one likes your sass about HD screens (you posted the same thing over 4 times -_-). Just because you cant handle it, doesnt mean it's no good. Many people love them, especially on a 15"

 

How, exactly? The i7-720qm is a very powerful CPU, and the mobility 5870 was the second most powerful GPU when the GX660R was released. Plus there's the RAID option, the awesome sound, and so on.

"Ridiculous" in what respect? I find it phenomenal that someone managed to stuff a top-tier gaming card into a 15-inch package, and still have room for two HDDs and an ODD.

And keep the temperatures for the GPU at excellent levels.

I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying that going below native resolution is giving you a blurry screen? Well, that's common knowledge.

If you're asking why MSI didn't install 1600x900 screens (or 16:10 equivalent), I'd have to say having too many variations just for the screen resolution wouldn't be feasible economically.

But surely you bought this machine knowing that it would have a FHD screen. The GX660 was around too, and it has the 720p screen you desired.



In the end, I'm not sure what you're so angry about. The GX660R was meant to have RAID and FHD, while it's (cheaper) brother, the GX660, had no RAID and only a 720p screen. So why are you angry when you bought the GX660R instead of the GX660? Surely you knew what specs you were getting?

 

Although I haven't had this specific issue, I think I know how to point you in the right direction.

If you click on the up arrow on the right section of the task bar, you'll see an icon that looks like a purple eye. It has a generic name of "System Control Manager" if you hover over it. Right-click on it and select "User-Defined Key".

Hope that helps

 

I recently bought the i7 version of this laptop. I'll use it for making music, watching movies and gaming. I gotta say the full hd screen was a must for me. Music programs simply require a high resolution and since Windows 7 is pretty good for music I bought this instead of a Mac at double the money. I also needed the express card slot which the Asus gaming line does not have.

The bad thing about this laptop is that if you want to replace the hard drive you'll void warranty. That's just wrong and a very doubtful move from MSI. They must know that most gamers will probably update the drive(s). My two year warranty is already gone and I just got this machine. Thanks MSI!

 

Your warranty is not voided.

Also, since gaming is not really a priority for you the HD screen is better. Although I wonder why you got a machine this expensive when you can get a cheaper FHD screen laptop somewhere else.

 

I would think because of its awesome sound. He does do sound editing, after all.

Speaking of warranty, there is literally nothing there to indicate to MSI that you've tinkered with your laptop. No stickers anywhere.

 

One of the screws in the bottom was covered with a sticker stating "Warranty void if this sticker is tampered with" or something very similar. To access the hard drives I had to open that screw...

As far as the price goes. I also said I do play games and I like good graphics so... I alse needed a good multicore (pref 4core) processor for music purposes.

 

Wait, really? Where did you get this laptop from?

The one I received from GenTech had no stickers whatsoever.

 

I live in Europe.

 

The moral is im correct.

Its all factual.

1920x1080 in a 15 incher is a massive fail ...... + the 5870 is way to high for a 15 inch full HD screen staying at the res of HD 1080P AKA 1920X1080 is ridiculous.

It drops frames very easy.

I'm just stating simply why did they go with this full HD screen ? and not a native res of 1366x768 ? it would make it the ultimatum ? and reduce cost.

The I7 IS a nice CPU however its reliability can be questioned.

The I5 beats it in both quality and reliability the I7 beats the I5 on heat and performance.

Need i say more ?

 

Massive fail? By whose standards? So far you seem to be the only person angered by a 1080p screen on a 15-incher. If we made an all-inclusive poll I doubt you would find many people who share your opinion for a FHD screen in this footprint. I, personally, like 1080 so I don't have to turn on AA even at native res. I notice much less jaggedness when I compared to my 720p Asus G51vx.

And what do you mean that the "5870 is way to[o] high for a 15-inch?" You think the 5870 is too powerful?

When referencing the i7's "reliability", what, exactly, do you mean? I have no idea what you're talking about.


Lastly, I can't fathom why you're so angry. You could easily have picked the GX660, with the i5 and 720p screen, yet you chose the 1080p, i7-packing GX660R. Why is that MSI's fault?

So, yes, you might need to explain more. I have no idea where you're coming from.

 

I love my FHD system. It's GREAT for hooking up to an external display . I also enjoy it on its native screen.

 

No i don't think the 5870 is to high or powerful rather the screen resolution is way to high for this graphics adapter.

On a plus note i would delete your post childofsat that is insulting others and could lead to a warning or a point reduction.

Just looking out for you.

Now.....

Yes thw full HD Screen is rather good but its nothing to grasp over or defend the matter still stands still that they should of gone 720P rather than 1080P this would increase gaming stability and increase performance.

I understand many people enjoy the laptop look i dont dispute any of that i love it to however im just looking out for you guys for better and bigger improvement in future releases of the next generation system .

What im trying to say is we here are all MSI owners most of us anyway why fight lets settle our differences and just help others and enjoy what we have that's what matters even if something small like Full HD screens bother me then maybe i am just a simple guy .

I agree with a lot of what you said .

Anyway i hope you guys have a nice Christmas with your family and friends and enjoy the new year.

.

 

For dedicated gaming use only I would probably like a smaller resolution screen too, but since I have other needs too, this current screen is better.

 

dont worry you avent voided your warranty.
i had the same problem(i live i the uk) i rang msi
and they said they were not aware of the stickers covering the the hdd space.
as its law in europe to allow the customer to upgrade his hdd,ram and optical and i think a couple other things .
so your warranty is not void

 

as much as i agree with everything that Forge has said,
( i think the screen is fine)
But as they dont sell the Gx660 over in Europe there is no option for a 720p
screen.

 

That's not MSI's fault, though.

Oh well. I'll come back here when AsusS makes a little more sense.

 

sense; this post makes none.

 

I'M not feeding you xD.

Bearclaw +Rep

 

yawn...........

 

Same im off to bed GN.


I will be on xfire
lamby90

 

I had to edit out the original since I was out of line, but I couldn't find the option to delete the post entirely. So no, I imagine it doesn't.

 

Disregard this post works.

 

17 hours of MW2 never hit 70C at al ..... the temps on this are great.

Also if you might want to drop res to 1600x900 still look the same to me better FPS .

Black ops for xmas cant wait !!!!!.

 

I'll be sure to run it by you next time

 

45-50fps totally maxed, 8x AA everything, even at 1080p

 

Thats great .

I like 1600x900 its just a weird res for me .

60FPS constant except heavy smoke and sometimes lag can be faulted for fps drop with that game so mos of the time you don't even know .

 

wht software is everyone using for the cam
??

 

My utilities disc came with something called CameraRecorder.

 

I am starting to hear a buzzing sound when i enable Boost with Realtek ?

Is this normal ?

Everything appears fine.

However it seems to get worse when i increase the audio when on headphone mode with my 5.1 stereo surround headphones nothing of the sort no sound at all so ?

 

I need to do this but how do i remove the keyboard ?

I have the problem as you ?

 

turn the laptop upside down, look for the keyboard logo screw, there are 2 of them, unscrew it, just pluck out your keyboard after that

merry x mas!!

 

Just unscrew the 2 screws with the keyboard symbol next to them. Then start carefully prying up the keyboard with your nails. I found it easier starting from the upper left and working my way across to the right. The entire top comes out before the bottom. Don't worry nothing will snap although it may feel flimsy.

btw the buzzing sound comes from some loose key hinges vibrating under the keyboard. There is no way to fix that except placing a mat on the keys when listening to loud music.

 

+Rep

+Rep

 

my laptop randomly froze, made a loud buzzing noise, and crashed with a blue screen! the blue screen was not the normal full screen one, but in a small window with a black background. what could be the problem?

 

First guess was HDD are you in raid 0 ?

And by buzzing sound you mean like a very loud or very faint buzzing sound ?

Does your machine still boot ?

Can you enter user control ?

 

im using a sandforce ssd drive that's not really compatible but, nevertheless worked fine since I had the laptop over 3 months ago. The beeping noise was very rapid and loud. Now my laptop is back to normal, but that was a scary experience...

 

Holy crop im glad its fixed

 

Is there a version of this laptop with a 1600x900 screen res? or anything less than full HD?

 

I have my GX660R for a tad over 2 weeks now. I replaced a Dell Insprion 8600. If I hook this up to an external monitor, will that affect gaming performance in anyway?

Another quick question I have is why does CPU-Z and 3DMark Vantage show it only having 2 cores when I have an i7 in it?

Thanks.

 

depends on how big the external is /native res ect ect.

how many corese does windows say you have