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9k euro for all soldered, its like throwing money down the toilet tbh. being able to replace few parts like mobo thats separate from cpu/gpu would mean computer would last a few yrs longer. besides, design and concept are great for gx800 and acer 21x but paying that much money and still can't have the best performance is kinda disappointing. can grab a clevo 870km and clock it to 5ghz for less money and possibly upgrade to coffeelake 6 cores with 2nd gen pascal another year later.

 

Most people don't want to futz around with pulling their laptops apart, it's a tool to use for gaming or other work.

It's a waste of their time to become a mechanic and work on their laptop - when they could be doing what they purchased the laptop for in the first place.

The small performance differences are not useful improvements they can use to further improve their real usage.

 

going from a 4ghz to 5ghz wouldnt exactly be a small difference especially when cpu are hardly improving over the last 6-7yrs. thats a 25% speed up which is considered huge in electronics, especially if you were to spend 9k. just different opinion, i surely wouldnt want my money to go to waste and not learn the stuff i bought.

besides, when you are able to upgrade to 6 cores, and a new generation graphics, that difference gets even bigger, to 30-40-50% 1-2yrs down the road, thats a huge difference.

 

New 2066 CPU <= too many pins for 1151, with a new expanded and improved Motherboard Chipset <= you can't replace that, it's soldered on all the motherboards - and it can't be socketed.

When sockets for CPU change along with new motherboard chipsets, and new IO options, more PCIE lanes, and who knows what else innovates in between model seasons, you'll want to get a whole new laptop (computer motherboard).

It's not something most people think enough about to strategize optimal returns, they just want to use what they have until it's time to replace it.

What if AMD kicks Intel's and Nvidia's patootie and AMD come's out with hardware on the desktop and mobile that we all must have?

 

the new pins 2066 isnt just for more cores, its also for quad channel memory, memory controller, pcie lanes lay out and for intel to force people to upgrade to newer chipset from LGA2011-3, but im not talking about LGA 2066 6 cores though.

im talking about 6 cores becoming mainstream from intel in another yr, coffeelake, which right now mainstream is 4 cores and intel MAYBE allowing us to use same chipset and socket simply because it will remain on 14nm and a 3yrs old technology, unless they wish to milk consumers again, but with AMD in place they may not, never know until it comes out.

also to answer your AMD/INTEL cpu question, back in the old days, we use to have laptop that uses AMD CPU simply because its more powerful, and vice versa, but over last 7-8 yrs its all been intel so thats why you don't see them. but yeah once AMD gets close or dominating we would see those option rises up, not strange at all, especially given AMD doesn't change socket all that often its pretty good if they manage to beat intel.

 

So, has anyone ordered one of these so they can stop fiddling with the cluster of wires with the dual 330W setup for their Titan SLI? I'm loving mine. Huge improvement!!

Introducing the EUROCOM 780W Notebook AC Adapter (Clevo & MSI Ready)

 

I want one, but I just got a car for less.

It's on the list of things to get when my hours come back.

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that things a monster PSU fo sho. with just 1 and without the adapter much easier to carry and fits nicely into the bag.

 

Yea, I'd be able to fit more for sure. And at 345 it's only slightly cheaper than my first car 50$ for the car and 450 for parts.

As soon as the winter clears out and the new staff burns off I should be able to grab one.

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yes, maybe. I have 8 years old 18'' acer which I still use more like a desktop, and I have 17'' asus rog for gaming. for me 18'' is a perfect size - field of view is exactly what you need from the laptop - not too narrow not too wide. although all reviews say about 17'' gaming laptops that it 'it is huge', 'it is a beast' etc, nevertheless - 17'' is too narrow. it is like a shirt with one size less than you need - yes you can use it but it is just not what you want. of course you can connect your 17'' 'beast' to a 27'' monitor but it kills the whole idea of mobility and portability. like it does in asus 18'' with water cooling. it is cool but it is not a laptop. it is a desktop pretending to be a portable system

 

doesnt look like many bought this laptop, this might be the last gen for 18" line up from MSI.

 

The most common complaint I read about this laptop is the inconsistency between GPU power and display resolution. I believe MSI will either increase the resolution or refresh rate soon with a refreshed model and start selling more. Although I have the GT80S and not the GT83VR, I can safely say there isn't any laptop that I have owned (and it is more than 15) that made me loyal to the brand like this lineup. The keyboard, the metal chassis, the dragon logo,display quality, internal bluray(need it for work). Everything is excellent for me. Well maybe only the numpad could have been better, I find myself not using it most of the time, since it is not responsive enough.

 

Could be that the price point is not optimal for most users. I only got a desktop replacemennt like this because I travel ALOT for work. A desktop with better performance can be built for likely half the price.

 

Just because people don't need to show up here to talk about their GT83 doesn't mean MSI isn't selling a lot of them.

People that buy that high end of a laptop are usually self-sufficient, and are doing just fine on their own.

We don't know how many are being sold, but we do know that MSI has been faithful to the line for a long time now, and it's still popular with all the reviewers and boutique shops that offer them.

I'm counting on MSI continuing the SLI GT8x series well past Volta

 

From what I heard they are selling fine. Most popular in its category.

When I got mine there where about 60-80 orders behind me.

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thats good to know that its selling, it would be a shame to have it die off due to no sale. i'd rather much see the thin/semi performance bga notebook being discontinued rather than the bulky tank that i love.

if thats the case, then hope we'll see some socket line up from clevo next yr, this including CPU as well.

 

I do hope so. I'm rather fond of the machine and I'd enjoy seeing it with a socket ed desktop. If they manage to push the temps down a bit more I think we could handle it just fine. Also AMD seems to be swinging well in the cpu market right now with ryzen.

I called it on the desktop equivalence on pascal I hope I'm right again.

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u know what though, reason you guys are seeing high temps primary reason is because the way GT83VR heatsink is designed. theres 3 fans for cpu cooling which sounds amazing, unfortunately thats not the case due to its design. we got two primary fan to cool two primary CPU heat pipes by using exhaust air from GPU radiator, which the air is already heated.. and the 3rd added fan isnt for tier1 heatpipe which gets hottest from CPU die contact, its soldered ontop of tier1 pipes to take any overflowing heat off that heatsink.

majority of heat is transfered away by tier1 pipes and trapped at the radiator due to hot air blowing on it so tier2 pipes doesn't really get very hot until tier1 pipes/radiator capacity gets too hit then heat start to flow more to the added 3rd fan.

had they put 4 heat pipes for cpu with direct die contact at tier1, two being the way it is originally while the 2 new ones directed to new fan, would truly be amazing. that or just swap position, cool cpu heatpipes first then use the exhaust for a small portion of GPU radiator.

 

What do u think...2 x 1080ti incoming or gt73 with 1080ti

 

I don't think we would see the Ti in the laptop. Though if we do I would hedge my bet on the 73. Maybe a special eddition 83.

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I'm getting the 1070 sli model but was wondering if anyone has tried installing macOS Sierra on one of these beasts as of yet. I'd like to be able to dual boot macOS Sierra and windows 10.

Also are the 1070s on these soldered which means I won't be able to upgrade?

 

they're not soldered, they are MXM so you can upgrade

 

Just ordered a GT83VR Titan SLI 1080 a few days ago from xotic and I'm proud to say that I can now speak freely in this lounge without being harassed by the previous/current GT83 owners!

 

Can't say I would harass you but welcome to the fold.

Tbh most people active in here don't have one I think.

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Has anyone connected their GT83 to a sound device other than headset? Give me all the details including your social and mothers maiden name... Intending on buying a decent 2.1 speaker set for the "casual" gaming sessions by my lonesome.

 

I have a sound system I plug in through a headphone jack. It sounds alright. Though mostly I leave it plugged into the TV and let the HDMI run the audio.

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I'm still trying to read through this whole thread. I got a couple of more days before mine comes in so I have time. First thing I will do is create a backup like many suggested to usb so that I can go back to the clean factory install if needed. Also there is a rebate currently with MSI and you get $300 off which is a considerable discount for the 6820hk model any way.

That is awesome. Love the upgrade path / serviceability for the graphics cards. One issue I guess is that it is BGA from the many that complained here. BGA is ok as long as the cpu doesn't fail - I can't see myself needing to upgrade from a 6820hk for quite a few years.

What gains can you possibly get from spending more for the 7920hq is my question. It's like 1k more(well does come with more ram/ssds). But can't I just OC to 7920hq clocks with ease?

 

Well, I almost bought the Asus GX800 and that was 1k more. But my deciding factor all came down to NOT hardware specs but aesthetics. Oh and also I didn't want to carry a jug of cooling water everywhere I go.

 

Is this thread for 1080 sli owners only? Is there a 1070 sli gt83vr owner lounge? Not sure if I'm posting in the right thread.

 

I don't think there is a separate thread. So you are welcome here by my reckoning.

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Anyone repaste the cpu and gpus and notice a temp improvement by chance?

 

I haven't personally. That being said there isn't much activity in the thread these days.....

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Well I got it. Very silent fans once adjusting in dragon center. Great cooling too 33c on both CPU and GPU at idle when tuning the fans to be silent. This makes it a keeper for me.

I think auto fan profile is fubar causing it to be too loud when you first get it. Was there a bios update that tweaked this?

Idle/browsing/movies it stays at 33c on auto but when lowering fan speed on basic in dragon center to the point where fans are silent the CPU/GPU still stay at the same temp as auto. Just seems like this wasn't tweaked right for auto mode but I guess I'll have to play with the manual settings.

My complaint is why is this Blu ray player so loud when playing Blu rays? Could it be because I'm using Cyberpower DVD? Sounds like a jet about to take off. Makes it almost useless having one. Steel series keyboard is loud as well. Love the feel but not sure why it is made to be loud like this. Would not want to be typing at Starbucks with this and drawing attention. Mechanical HD is also noisy but was going to change that asap with a solid state any way.

Everything else great so far though haven't gamed on it. Build quality is superb. I like the track pad too.

 

you can get dampener o-rings for the keys to silence them if they bother you. I've never watched a bluray on this laptop, but it was fine for a dvd.

 

@quietfan something like this you can fit on your keys. https://www.amazon.ca/Cherry-Rubber-Ring-Switch-Dampeners/dp/B00AZQ2OF8

Not sure what to do about the blue ray...I'mo if I could I'd swap it for another drive bay.

 

It's interesting, not many complain about the optical drive noise, I think the only other person that described it as such was @mason2smart - he said it sounds like it's got an unbalanced disc in it, but it happens with all discs to some extent.

With the GT80 the optical drive is "whisper" quiet - you can hear it briefly as it spins up but after that it's quiet.

The only visible difference around the optical bay with GT80 vs GT80S / GT83 is the "shielding" over the M.2 drives taped to the optical drive case.

I wonder if there is some conductive vibration resonance going on that the added shield is providing?

Maybe look at an internal photo of the GT80 and the GT83 and try temporarily removing the tape / shield to see if it stops making that loud noise.

It could also be a different cheap brand of DVD/BD drive, you might try swapping in a different BD writer, that's what I do to get a better class of device over the bundled one.

I haven't had to do that for a while, a few years actually - I migrated that drive from the G750JH to the GT80, so you are on your own for picking a new one, but I like the LG drives in general

 

You already have your laptop I see, so the point is moot for you, but for others benefit, the Kabylake BGA CPU's are benefiting from the process improvements since Skylake, offering about 300mhz more OC headroom than Skylake in our laptops.

The base frequency is 200mhz more, and the single core stock Turbo is up 300mhz from the factory.

Even better, the owner experiences with the 7820HK are that they get greater than 4.0ghz stable on OC, from 4.2ghz to 4.6ghz (Asus G701VI), and with a little patience tuning for voltage on the GT83VR, it should be the same.

Every little bit of CPU performance can help effectively raising FPS in some games when feeding hungry SLI 1080's @ 1080p.

Or, use an external monitor and run 1440p / 2160p, and then the 6820HK => 7820HK performance bump won't be noticeable in games

 

Either way you would have had an awesome laptop

But, the GX800 with 7820HK would have been a tad more awesome on it's water cooling dock, which for me is when I need the gaming power.

You can run the GX800 on air cooling, single PSU, and have a nice single 1080 for mobile. Still waiting for someone with a GX800 to try running that 780w Eurocom PSU on air cooling with enough power to drive both GPU's.

You can of course benefit the same with the single 780w PSU on the GT83VR, relieving you of the burden of carrying 2 PSU's and the maze of wires and merging box required for the GT83VR:

EUROCOM 780W AC/DC Adapter
http://www.eurocom.com/ec/configure(2,404,0)ec

 

I've looked at that Eurocom PSU..very impressed.. but at a price tag of 475$, I think I'll stick with two bricks for now. Also I don't plan on moving the notebook as much, maybe up and down the stairs if needed. My GT83VR is almost here! Ordered it on May 2, getting here May 10th.

 

@hmscott I think the gx800 uses a proprietary power connector. And I wouldn't be surprised if it a custom power run that made the dock necessary.



It has one of these on the side and one on the back if I recall right and both have to be plugged in.

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Nooo!!, oh well, someones gonna need to figure out that wiring... what do you think?

 

Got an issue with my gt83. When I select turbo mode in dragon center and it bumps clocks up to 3.97ghz I Am noticing a static sound on the right side just above the keyboard area. Seems to do it in sport mode and comfort mode too so I'm guessing any kind of load I'm going to get this constant buzz sound. It's a very annoying buzz type of sound that must be in relation to CPU frequency. Because in eco mode it runs at 1.06ghz and doesn't make the buzzing noise. Looks like I'll have to exchange it though. Anything to try before returning?

Edit: wondering if it's a dragon center bug? When I selected turbo I'd get a constant buzz. But when i close dragon center leaving turbo selected no buzz...really weird. Anyone experience this?

Does turbo also over clock refresh rate because it does sound similar to GPU whine when vsync is off and fps is crazy high.

 

I don't think turbo does anything with refresh rates. That's a custom resolution you have to do.

I've never had that. Though I usually set my preferences and leave it be. Lol

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Mostly had loud blue ray with CD's that had an image on the top, like the install disks... Most else is usually fairly quiet

 

I always have static sounds there... No problems yet... Just ignore it.

 

Ya can't live with that and just ignore it as that is pretty crappy and obviously defective. Never had a laptop do that. Hope this is not a sign of MSI being bad in quality. I'll do a video of all the issues because you guys don't get how bad this static noise is. Hopefully the next one is better.

 

It's not a sign of bad quality, it's probably mechanical noise from the HDD, that's why I always remove them from laptops and replace with a silent SSD.

It could also be coil whine under load, many desktop motherboards and GPU's have this, and many smaller laptops as well.

It's not something I had in the GT80.

 

If you don't figure out the specific cause of the noise before returning it, you might get the exact same issue in the new one.

What is the noise coming from?

 

^Well it's not my first powerful laptop. I had a Asus with a gtx970m a while back. Never heard those noises. I figured MSI was better quality from my great experience with their desktop GPUs.

The Noise seems to come from just above the keyboard in the center. I think it's load related to the cpu / motherboard because the GPUS are not stressed when I put it in turbo, It's just the cpu clock frequency that goes up to 3.9ghz.

Never heard of a cpu causing coil whine. I've heard of power supply coil whine, and GPU coil whine, but not cpu. Perhaps coil whine from the motherboard? I've had coil whine from a gigabyte motherboard a while back. I've heard of motherboard caps that failed or leak could whine or make a strange noise under load. I've also heard of bad quality motherboards that would emit coil whine because they use inferior capacitors.

But the laptop has also freezed and has rebooted itself twice already when just navigating on the desktop. Very odd and surprising from my experience in the past with MSI. Just baffled really this is a MSI product I guess. I've always put MSI in high regard. I'm going to say this is just bad luck and I got a lemon.

 

It's disconcerting to have problems, but it doesn't always mean there is a hardware issue, it could be an OS issue. That's usually where the problem sources, in 99% of the cases for freezes and crashes.

But, it's a new laptop, so there could be component infant mortality failure(s), shipping vibration induced issues, that's usually the source of hardware failures. The laptop tests fine at the assembly QA point, but after it's boxed something fails.

There are so many components in a laptop that are fragile on their own, it's really more of a surprise when nothing fails

There have been lots of CPU whine in products, even recently - it's common in some builds - it happens at all quality levels - something is resonant and isn't damped - probably because it usually does't exhibit audible vibration.

I've fixed this kind of issues simply by pushing in a leg of an inductor further and clipping off the excess. Some with a squirt of RTV to dampen the vibration, it varies.

If the production assembly is set up for one part and another "equivalent" spec part is subbed on purpose or accidentally you can end up with a production run where all of sudden you have an audible emission where there was none before.

Can you pull off the top panel, you remove a screw through from the back and then slide the plate left or right to pop on/off. Then if you are careful to not touch anything - you may be able to isolate the noise to a specific component, photograph it and the sound, and open an RMA - which might be instructions on how to RTV or otherwise dampen the problem - or MSI could ask that you send it in.

Since it's so new, returning to the vendor for another one is the quickest solution, but if you can debug to the source of the problem under the registered laptop serial then MSI can take it back from the vendor and have the diagnosis already done.

It makes for a historical attaboy for you that might buy you better attention when filing other problems down the road with the vendor, speaking from experience.

Hopefully your new unit won't exhibit the problem