***The Official MSI GT83VR Titan SLI Owner's Lounge (NVIDIA GTX-1080's)***

video shows us the internal hardware coming soon?

 

Yeah I think that's what I'm most disappointed by the fact that the 1080p panel is only 60hz. I would love to have a 1440p 120hz display in this laptop.

 

The lack of 18.4" 120Hz screens was a supply issue for this run, but the demand is there, so no doubt we'll see them shortly. This is not something that really puts me on the fence, because screen swaps generally are not that big of an issue. Just a thought.......

I sent him an email, and you can find his profile page HERE. From there, click the 'Information' tab, then select 'Start a Conversation'. If you are not seeing this, this is probably due to your post-count. New users need to post several times to open-up other forum user privileges. I've forgotten the number, but I think you need at least five post minimum.

 

kabylake out in a few months, maybe we can expect new gt83vr model to come with kabylake along with 4k display. though i wouldnt have find any use for a 4k on 18".. donno why its such a big hit among some gamers.

 

Yep, new tech is always on the horizon, so much so, it's a chore to keep up with sometimes. Essentially, one could always be on the fence, waiting for the latest/greatest..... waiting, and waiting, and waiting.....there is always something new coming.....and still waiting. Personally, I choose to BUY SOMETHING, so I can ENJOY it, LOL! I used to play the perpetual waiting game, and I didn't have nearly as much fun. Every new 'un-boxing' puts a smile on my face, and it feels like the holidays.

 

so most places put the gt83 and gt73 with 1080/1080sli on pre-order. Any word on when amazon, newegg, or microcenter will actually get them?

 

Thank you! It seems that I really need to write a couple of comments because I can't see this option.

 

I haven't heard anything regarding the e-tailer's, but we'll be seeing them everywhere soon. I would also suggest an authorized reseller instead, as the big-box e-tailer's do not generally offer the same level of customization, or overall service. Again, speaking generally, these e-tailer's are usually just warehouse sales, WYSIWYG, and rely solely on referring to manufacturer warranty for customer issues with the product. Just a thought......

Yep, go ahead and post 5 to 10 post of nonsense (moderator may spank me for suggesting that), and then see if it appears in Ken's profile. Like I said, I emailed him in your behalf, and you should hear from him soon.

 

You mean you not able to send us email? sure you can send me private message on the forum and we can chat from there.

 

Oh ok! I am currently doing so. This will be my sixth post but I am thinking of going to bed because it's 6:13 AM already.

 

Well, he could always call.

 

Not sure John....I was thinking the same, and not sure why email would be a problem either. As to calling, perhaps it has something to do with overseas LD issues. Anyhow, they finally got together in PM.

 

Yeah, you are right about overseas rates. They can run pretty high at times.

 

i have 4k monitor and seriously even on a 24" display text icon are SOOOOOOOO small not to mention it doesn't work well with window dpi and have to constantly adjusting from game to desktop. worst of all, doing a blank image from a computer to another computer would ruin it cause other computers dont have the same display, just my experience and 2c. i'd choose higher frequency display over high resolution anyday, though usage for both are very little to me regardless.

besides, why get skylake knowing kaby lake with new chipset will be out in a few months? yep and theres always latest and greatest but tbh i dont plan on getting gt83vr if kabylake is gonna turn out to be same as skylake, because i know for a fact that consumer optane wont be cheap and available anytime soon, 200 series chipset is good for only that, nothing else im that interested in but each to his own.

 

So you are not interested in buying the GT83VR Titan SLI, and it does not measure-up to your expectations, correct? After all, that is the topic of this thread, and it is a Skylake notebook.

Yep, to each, their own.

 

As much as i like the design of the Laptop with ist mechanical Keyboard, im not spending this ton of Money on a 180p60 Screen. Anything but this Screen would do, but this Screen ruins the Laptop in my opinion.
It would have been way better to build the 17 Inch 1080p120hz Screen than this 18inch 1080p60hz Screen.

 

Im waiting for this Laptop with something other than this Screen, then i will get it, since i dont have a aptopt mysel, only an old clevo wit i7 950 and 460m SLI, which i gave my wife. I occasionaly use it as a Laptop, but i really Need one of my own. And for gods sake, i cannot bring myself to buy a Laptop with a normal Keyboard, when one exists with a mechanical Keyboard ! )

 

Correct, he's not interested.

Anyway, I'm curious, since you're still waiting for the GT83VR to arrive and you already sold both your GT80 and GT80S, what notebook are you using now?
The legendary Asus W90VP ?

 

mmm will a better option (budget) msi gt80s 980m sli?? or just wait for black friday an some luck...

 

LOL! HALARIOUS! ROFLMFAO!

I just wanted him to answer himself, because of his high expectations, and considering the notebook in his SIG. I have an eye on him, and if he's not careful, he's going on troll watch, LOL! The GT83VR is what it is, and if it's not good enough, why sling mud in the Owner's Lounge. I've seen many talk the talk, yet not walk the walk. The GT83VR is currently boasted (and for a short time I'm sure) to be the top gaming notebook. Heck, we don't even have this notebook in our hands yet. The best I can figure when folks muddy the waters of a new release, it's either to dazzle us with their brilliance, espouse their wisdom and knowledge, baffle us with BS, hang-out with the cool kids, trolling, or all of the above.... and the later two will get the attention of moderators.

Yeah, that W90VP is longgggggg gone. I loved that battle tank when I first received it, and then everything went downhill from there.....stuttering, immature drivers, FPS drops, etc.....geez, never could get decent drivers, and to make matters worse, I got ZERO satisfaction from Asus on the matter.

As to my current notebook..... I'm still have my trusty road warrior, the GT783, and believe it or not, it still works great. My new GT83VR will NOT be one I tote in my travels..... though dragging it around to show it off will be a lot of fun.

 

Is this MSIGT83VR GPU upgrade friendly for future cards?

 

@saturnotaku @-=$tR|k3r=-

MSi GE/GP = permanent optimus on lcd, no TB3
MSi GT72 = permanent dGPU, GSYNC, no TB3
MSi GS43 = permanent optimus on lcd, has TB3
ASUS G752 = same as GT72, has TB3

Pics later

I also broke all the "warranty void" sticker (this is illegal btw) on display models

 

Actually I am attempting to get clarification at this very moment, and I am also seeking this for the GT80S folks. I know the MXM Upgrade Program was adopted with the early GT72, but not certain it even applied to GT80S. In other words, I am trying to sort out if there were not some misperceptions in this regard.....trying to find actual promo material to this affect. I think I also assumed that this program would flow over from the GT72 to the GT80 series, but my recollection tells me it was GT72 specific. I have a hunch, the assumption the program would apply to the GT80 series, was made by all. To answer your question, for the moment I would say, no, if you don't find it specifically advertised.

 

I think it's important for *everyone* that expects to upgrade their GT72 / GT80* to speak to MSI directly, file a ticket requesting the MXM GPU upgrade to Pascal, and point to these Official MSI GT80/GT80S video's promising MXM GPU Upgrades.

Spoiler: MSI Videos with timecode references where MXM GPU Upgrades stated

MSI GT80 Titan SLI is the world’s 1st Gaming Laptop with Mechanical Keyboard.

MSI Gaming <== Youtube Channel with these videos

Published on Feb 26, 2015
The MSI GT80 Titan SLI and its accessories get unboxed in this video.
SLI technology . It is the world’s first gaming laptop mechanical keyboard equipped with Cherry MX switches. Joint engineering and software development between MSI and SteelSeries promise ultimate comfort for long gaming sessions, and switches from mechanical switch specialist Cherry guarantees long-time reliability.

Upgrade GT80 MXM just the same as GT72 - at 10:00


A 2nd Official MSI GT80 release Video, at 1:05 Upgradeable Dual MXM SLI



A 3rd Official MSI Video release Video, at 00:54 Upgradeable Dual MXM SLI
MSI Skylake Gaming Notebooks: Full Product Range Ready Be the World’s 1st, for THE SKY’S THE LIMIT


I have saved an offline copy of these videos if anyone needs them

 

Thanks for looking into this but I went ahead and ordered a Clevo P775DM3 instead.


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ummm hmscott would know better prob just my personality i bash and bash on everything thread and i know my expectation is high (on the cpu and storage side), thats a good thing though. tbh at this point im almost better to go with desktop but it has its draw back with no battery.

i mean, theres always this http://www.ssiportable.com/products/portable-solutions/spark-s9t/

thinking of the bright side, i could get a UPS as a "laptop PSU" and not have to worry about battery dying on me as i can just get a new UPS to replace it.

 

you made the best choice!

 

@hmscott,

Nice finds..... I'm still sorting through written promo material, and not finding any expressed guarantees, and the videos only express an intent. I doubt past intent will have much weight, especially if the technology changes amongst the manufacturing partners. Again, the answer I was given was, "a direct upgrade to the next generation (N17) graphics is NOT recommended, and would require a different motherboard design/power/thermal configurations to support." Anyhow, it will be interesting to see how this plays out.

Ok, so you are not getting a GT83VR, you keep saying hmscott would know, your personality is in question, you 'bash and bash' everything, your expectations are too high, and now you are talking about desktops, portables, and UPS's. That hardware sounds like a very mobile idea, and good luck toting that stuff around. Sooooo, why again are you here in the GT83VR Owner's Lounge ole!!!?

@Mobius 1, @saturnotaku, you two seem to enjoy your Clevo's, so same question.

Gee Wiz, do I need to call the Troll Patrol?

 

MSI knows they promised 2 generations of GPU upgrades for the GT80 Series, that's the GT80 and GT80S.

I posted that info for others that may be interested in upgrading their GT80/GT80S GPU's so they register their interest with MSI.

@ole!!! is an acquired taste - I have Ignored him several times when he gets a little hyper, so I am not tempted to engage

But, he's not Ignored now, yet, at the moment

 

What I see from MSi is very strange, a non unlock CPU only sold in bundle with the 1080GPU, while the unlock CPU is sold with the lesser 1070GPU. It should've been the other way around.

Plus they don't offer a desktop CPU laptop with 1070/1080 outside of barebones like the MS 16L1 (Eurocom Tornado / Maingear Nomad 15)

It's a bit out of my price range unfortunately...

 

@Mobius 1 What kind of price range are you considering?

 

You've mixed something up somewhere.

The GT73VR 1080 models, all 3 of them, come with an unlocked 6820HK

https://us.msi.com/Laptop/GT73VR-TITAN-Pro-6th-Gen-GTX-1080.html#hero-specification&sku_no=1739

 

With the P870DM2 barebones [1080x1, 2x330, 1080P] + 6700K/16GB 2400 from EVOC it's right around 3100, slightly below.

With GT73VR 1080 (cheapest) is 2800~ from Xotic, HID (3000 w/ 2x330) ,or Gentech (free headset), does come with a bit extra though (ssd/os/ram), but only HID carries the power converter box (AC200) + extra 330w.



MSi is a bit more expensive, not to mention that you can't get the 2x330 or spareparts easily. Though I do admit that it's a prettier machine with better warranty, stock accessories, and easier resale (not many people know clevo).

So if I were to go the MSi route I would have to resell when a new model releases with Volta/Vega and-or Kaby Lake.

Plus u know, prema bios...




@hmscott - I mean the SLi versions. I know I'm not going that route but still an odd decision imo.

 

Ah, ok.

Well, You see one of the routes I took in my sig.

 

heh, talk about each to their own, yet you love thrusting your own opinion at others . im here to look at some video about heatsink so until that happens i'll still be here roaming around. anyway, regardless of how much you wish to glorify your purchase on the gt83vr, it's cpu remain trash and you have bought a cheap garbage for intel to further making money off a poorly binned silicon, not that you care right?

maybe this never came across to u, but some people love to know the stuff in details of what they buy, and some love to jump the gun on the "latest" while almost having no improvement over previous generation. you can call me trolling or w/e but i'll simply just ignore that part of your comment lol, in the end i won't buy it just because you're saying its good, i gotta see the internal myself.

zen is out with some benchmark, looks promising, more choice in the future, more wait to come!

exactly, just take what i say to heart. the stuff i wanted is just me which is like 1 person out of the entire community. powerful GPUs make good gaming laptop, not so much on CPU side, even i realize the fact that i'll probably never be able to get what i wanted. if by chance something come up i'd be stoked for sure.

 

with p870dm3, do u find when benching GPUs the heat on cpu is unbearable? i recall seeing their design on that giant metallic heatsink flowing heat towards the cpu side.

 

That machine is in bound, but I do plan on putting it through the paces to see what it can do.

 

the i7 6820hk is comparable to the i7 6700k in 99% of applications. binning only matters for overclocks, so that's irrelevant to the majority of users. By the time you know all the details to this machine, the next best thing will be available. these laptops aren't for poorfags.

 

price between msi and competitor sli machine isn't much, it's just what you get with the two different machines that matters

 

Now that is true. Considering this machine has 4 pcie drives if i'm not mistaken? And the P870DMX has 2.

 

I hope MSI considers releasing GS83 as a slim and light version of GT83.

 

GT73VR 2x NVME, 1x M.2 Sata (I think)

GT83VR same as above

 

GT80S 6QF page screenshots here:
http://imgur.com/a/OiHau

Screenshot 1: "MSI is the first and the only one in the market to offer MXM Graphics Card Upgrade Kit" etc etc.
Screenshot 2: Shows date this copy was cached. 2 days ago. MSI knows exactly what they're doing.
Screenshot 3: Current page. All references to upgrade kits removed.

 

whats the point can't getting a better cpu, soldered prevent from swapping so you're pretty much stuck with it. its not like msi sell mobo after mobo and even if they do replacing entire thing isnt exactly simple.

 

nvme pcie drives are limited by chipset, with 3 from chipset then theres no more sata 6gbps port anymore. unless somehow theres more directed lane from CPU for storage there isnt, 16 lanes, two sets of x8 all used by dual GPU.

gx800 is removing all of 2.5" factor and has 3 PCIE SSDs imho raiding them is pointless and only boost multi queue performance.

 

The last time it was 4 M.2 slots they were SATA III not PCIE x4 in the Broadwell GT80.

The first Skylake GT80S with 2 PCIE dropped 1 of the 2 SATA III ports so they could bump up the 2.5" from SATA II (GT80 Broadwell) to SATA III.

That's why I am excited about the Kabylake Series 200 Motherboard chipset as it's supposed to come with a bunch more PCI-E Lanes so we could go back up to 4x M.2 as PCI x4. Plus native TB3, Optane, etc.

 

How would that look to you? What would it have inside?

Different screen too? 18" only has 1 global model, Asus has a special 4k, but AFAIK that's it, 17.3" would give it more options like 1440p, 1080p+120/144hz, 4k 120hz, etc.

The problem is, you need physical space / volume (cubic) to house the heatplates, heatpipes, exhaust heat exchangers + fans to house the high heat components.

If you make the GT83VR smaller - as a GS83 - you loose the ability to support 1080 SLI, dropping down to 1 1080 or 1070 SLI - swap in that 17.3" display and that's basically what the GT73VR is already.

 

Well the basic idea is... 18.4" display with slim design and less weight and yes, even if that means sacrifice the full-size keyboard and SLI.

And since the dimension size will be bigger than 17.3" GS73, it will have better cooling and battery life (bigger HSF and bigger Battery).
And even if this "GS83" doesn't come with SLI, the extra space could be used for bigger HSF and bigger battery.

One can only hope

 

The problem is the 18" screen options are 1, so you'd only get a 1080p 60hz screen. Not a problem for me, I like the larger size, 120/144hz would be nice though, especially with a 1080 easily able to perform that well.

With Asus jumping in to the 18" screen game, maybe we will see a large screen renascence.

I'm happily anticipating the flexible OLED roll out screen laptop - 24"++ man, that's what I am talking about

 

i wouldnt mind if they willing to fork out some pcie lanes directly from CPU say x4 and we can use those 12.5mm SAS/dual port SSD in a laptop, thats like server grade i'd be drooling but according to @Meaker@Sager it costs more. like p570wm its only two x16 pcie 2.0 lanes for the dual GPU theres 8 lanes unused right?

optane is right around the corner though, once got that, the bottleneck lies entirely in the software/cpu.