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i think you're getting confused. i havent heard of MSI GT80/80S bios limiting 6820hk, do you meant to say vbios limiting GPU? cause that could happen. now i do know laptop refuse to take more power than 1 PSU but that doesnt mean it throttle juice towards the cpu.

as long as bios doesn't have power throttling then 6820hk is good to go if the silicon u get is of good quality.

 

The 6820HK owner reports for the 6820HK are clearly showing most of the CPU's running at 4.0ghz, with some running at 4.1/4.2ghz, which is what I posted.

That's what people should expect. 4.0ghz, with possible 4.1ghz/4.2ghz for benchmarking, but not day to day use.

Some have only gotten their 6820HK to 3.8ghz. There are no OC guarantee's.

[i7-6820HK] Overclock Settings for 4.0GHz to 4.3GHz (Stable)
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-settings-for-4-0ghz-to-4-3ghz-stable.787791/

It looks like a couple are claiming 4.3ghz. I find it hard to believe these 4.1-4.3ghz claims are running at these speeds day to day, but if so, that's pretty awesome

None of them are claiming 4.4ghz or 4.5ghz, and those speeds for a 6820HK are a completely unreasonable expectation. Which is why I responded to you; I don't want people to think they can reach those speeds, when no one has reported doing so yet.

In fact I am quite surprised about the 4.3ghz claims, as even Asus with water-cooling and engineering changes only guarantee 4.2ghz for day to day use.

 

MSI GT83VR 6RF Titan GTX 1080 SLI Laptop Review
Published on Oct 10, 2016

Full Written review:
http://www.kitguru.net/lifestyle/la...-gt83vr-6rf-titan-sli-gtx-1080-laptop-review/

 

this is why i said "good" silicon. mobile chip uses junk silicon especially anything beside HK and high end HQ. if you are lucky enough u can hit one of those able to bring u 4.4-4.5ghz.

tbh these review videos are a joke lol, even reading notebookcheck.net is better than this...

 

Mobile CPU's don't use junk silicon, please stop saying it, it's not true.

You can't get "lucky" enough to run a 6820HK in a MSI laptop at 4.4ghz / 4.5ghz, please stop saying this, it's not true.

There is also a written review for that video review, translate it to your native language and read it if you can't easily follow along with spoken english. Youtube has an audio translate, sometimes it works, most of the time it's just funny to read

I'm not a fan of many of the reviewers or reviews available, but you learn to use what's available - there is always some information or perspective to be gained.

Don't be so picky, you'll miss out on a lot of good fun.

 

If you were Intel, why wouldn't you bin your chips that can't hit easily high clocks in the SKUs where most end users don't expect them to hit high clocks? That's just good business sense.

 

Intel cannot swap chips across desktop and mobile lines. They are different parts.

You can't take 6700k chips and turn them into 6820HK chips, once they are baked, they are what they are, no binning between them

 

Source? I was under the impression that both were the same 122mm^2 die.

 

Once the part is made to the specifications for the part, it's not going to be changed. The size doesn't matter, it's whats baked on to it. Once it's baked on, you can't change it.

Intel isn't taking Skylake-S desktop CPU's like the 6700k and turning them into Skylake-H laptop CPU's like the 6820HK.

It's a BS idea that doesn't deserve any more of my time.

If you want to chase down your fantasy, please call Intel and ask.

 

Obviously the die size isn't a GUID. It's a strong piece of evidence in favor of them being the same die if true, along with identical performance at the same clocks. But if you're going to just dismiss it outright with zero evidence and then be an ass about it, I guess we're done here.

 

It's an asinine idea from the start, and didn't deserve the time I have given it.

If you want to waste your time verifying it's false, then please waste your time, but please stop wasting our time.

Please stop saying something that isn't proven as truth, that's not truth, it's a BS fantasy with zero evidence behind it. @ole!!!

End of discussion, and don't waste my time bringing it up again.

 

Yet another post with absolutely zero substance behind it. "You're wrong, I'm not going to find a single shred of evidence or even a single logical argument as to why, but you're wrong."

There is zero reason for Intel to spend R&D money on two variants of Skylake when the mobile variant has identical performance and power consumption, just like how Quadro and Geforce cards were identical barring a few resistors a few generations ago. Why waste money when you can not only make a single unified die and disable features that you don't want or need on the SKU and even create a market for worse-binned parts that has per-unit prices higher than the desktop segment? If you can find evidence to the contrary I'll gladly admit to being wrong. Until then, you have every bit as little authority as I do on the subject.

If you want to talk zero evidence, let's take a look at some of the things you've been saying, such as repeatedly claiming that all else held constant, mobile CPUs use less power than desktop CPUs at identical settings due to a lower official TDP despite all tests pointing to the contrary.

 

If you got that from one of my posts you mis-read it, I never stated that in that way nor implied it.

 

You're correct, I was misremembering this post. Rereading it, it looks like you're referring to the fact that the desktop CPU needs to be delidded to get similar thermals, so I apologize for misrepresenting your POV. Nonetheless, all my previous points still stand.

 

Spoiler

All your previous points have to do with the idea that you can interchange chip dies between the Skylake-S and Skylake-H lines, which is preposterous.

Think through the chipset support differences between the implementations of the Skylake-S and Skylake-H lines. They aren't compatible or interchangeable.

Some of the core layout elements are shared - which leads you to believe they are interchangeable, but the final implementation of each on the die are too different to cross populate between lines.

There is no possibility of binning bad 6700k's and selling them as 6820HK's, it's simply not possible.

It's frustrating when such BS gets started, and supported, without even the briefest of consideration as to whether it makes sense.

Poorly thought out reasoning is the basis of the whole BS of the LGA crap vs BGA crap - which is all one sided from the LGA side - it's just a bunch of crap that I get tired even hearing about let alone thinking about or responding.

The LGA CPU's use more power past the point of like performance on the BGA side, and with LGA that power is always available, so it's going to be used - and therefore desktop CPU's will run hotter than the laptop CPU's- which can't run hotter - they are self limited either by the CPU limits or if unlocked by the implementation limits of the motherboard and BIOS - so they run cooler.

That's a fact that everyone that gets an LGA laptop eventually finds to be true. They run hot and noisy unless you de-tune them for slower operation to run cooler and make less noise while cooling them down - that detuning brings them toward the performance range of the laptop CPU.

Then what's the point of investing in LGA Desktop CPU's in a laptop if you are going to detune it to quiet it down?

That's the point of designing in the differences between Laptop CPU's and Desktop CPU's.

The performance advantages of the LGA CPU at 91w isn't required for 99% of the gamers that want a gaming laptop.

It's frustrating to listen to the half-baked baloney putting down laptop CPU's, when I know for a fact they do everything needed to drive the GPU's they are paired with.

Desktop CPU's are not needed for gaming in laptops.

Trying to throw muck at laptop 6820HK CPU's by saying they are 6700k rejects is just another line of baloney I can't swallow, there's no thought behind it that is worth a response, until it keeps being parroted as fact.

There, now you got your response from me, please don't respond, just leave it alone for now, ok?

 

Let's drop the subject now.

 

@hmscott
http://www.trustedreviews.com/asus-rog-gx800-review

now in a table chart it mentioned manual. so there you have it, as long as your chip is of good quality 4.4ghz is possible. i mean johnxxx got his to 4.6ghz right? thought he calls his not lottery chip i'd like to disagree.. unless hes running off of AC.

gt83vr should be capable of decent overclock tbh.

 

So it seems I might not be getting mine for another two weeks (darn those shipping boats),
I think it might be time to ask for some suggestions for accessories.

Spoiler: What I have now

External Monitor: Acer preditor x34(A?)
External Keyboard: Corsair k70 browns

Im looking for things like, cooling pads, a mouse suggestion...maybe something with buttons for my thumb, a vesa mount that would work with that monster sized monitor that i can clamp or drill onto my desk.

As always if someone would like me to test something out for them when i get it please pm me.

 

is it actually able to stay at 4.4?

 

yea it should as long as cooling is good. 6820hk doesn't have power/current throttling like most of other HQ version. as far as bios gt83vr should be good and better than 80s so that removes bios throttling the CPU. aside from all of this, as long as GPU isnt under heavy load and prioritize cooling all towards CPU and voltage stay reasonable say under 1.37 ish, cooling 4.4 should be doable for size of gt83 cpu heatsink.

shouldnt need to own the machine to tell. skylake runs a bit cooler than ivy so all based on size of cpu heatsink, fan, how well heat is directed and finally quality of silicon.

something gotta know though, the way this new cpu heatsink is designed, majority of cooling is still off the two major original 12v fans thats meant to cool those 2 GPUs. the added heatpipes as 2nd layer to the 3rd newly added small fan, thats meant for overflowing heat from the original layer of two pipes. to put it simply, copper to copper transfer unit is around 400ish, where as internal of heat pipe is about thousand times faster so majority of heat still flow towards original design similar to that of gt80s.

 

Hi !

All versions of GT83VR 6RF comes with dual power supply (2x 330w) ?
I have a doubt for this model: GT83VR 6RF Titan SLI 072UK

Thanks for your help

 

Why do you have doubt?? Please post a link to info you question, so we know where you are getting your information.

The 1070 SLI comes with 230w x 2, and the 1080 SLI comes with 330w x 2.

 

Hi !

because in this description is not specified

http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-181512-072-MSI-GT83VR-6RF(Titan-SLI)-072UK_1999994.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-...-intel-i7-6820hq-gaming-laptop-lt-24s-ms.html

so I hesitate to order, I asked the sellers and they do not know

 

I have the https://ca.msi.com/Laptop/GT83VR-6RF-044CA-Titan-SLI.html#hero-overview model, which im going to go out on a limb and assume is the one you linked by a different name,
and it has 2 bricks and a converter box from msi.

the 1070 model https://ca.msi.com/Laptop/GT83VR-6RE-045CA-Titan-SLI.html#hero-specification , has dual 230w supplies.

Hope this helps.

 

Hi
not exactly the same, 044CA run with cpu 6920HQ, 2*512 SSD
the 072UK cpu is 6820HK and 2*256 SSD

 

Im not too sure, i compared every example I could find and it seems that regardless of storage and cpu, if you have dual 1080's you get 2x330w supplies and 1070's get dual 230w supplies.

In my personal opinion if its a straight up re seller like amazon, or a store (I'm not sure what you guys have) like best buy, the source etc, it would be safe to assume that it follows the standard, any time I go to MSI UK i get bounced back to the US site...much like when i go to the one in canada.

 

I think you are right, all versions gt83vr 6rf (sli 1080) comes with 2x330w... I'll order !

many thanks

 

No problem, once you get it let us know how it performs, I'm sure everyone would be interested to hear.

Plus once more people get it we can start putting together strategies to tune and overcome any issues that may arise.

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The cyber power fangbook 4 SLI seems to be a clone of this laptop, however, it has a dual 230 watt power supplies? I did the math and the 2x240 should be enough for 2x 1080GTX and the i-7 cpu. Anyone care to comment?

 

Just ordered my gt83vr from gentech. Got it without the ssds because I plan to go with dual Samsung 960 Pros when they release any day now. Will it be fairly straightforward to set those up in raid 0 just like the stock drives? There isn't anything special about "super raid 4" besides just being a pci-e connected raid 0 array, right? Even still, I have never set up drives in a raid configuration before, so if there's anything I should know about trying it on this laptop or just in general it would be very much appreciated.

 

Link?

 

is the HDMI port 1.4 or 2.0? I'm looking at the cyberpower fangbook clone/white label but the description has it listed as 1.4 HDMI only

 

As soon as you supply the link(s) to what you are looking at I can help

 

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Fangbook_4_VR_EXTREME_SLI_4000_Gaming_Laptop

click on expand all you will see 2x 230 watt

 

has anyone looked at this back pack?
https://www.amazon.com/Bonvince-Laptop-Backpack-Gamer-Laptops/dp/B012IDOLU6

seems to be 1/3 of the everki titan

 

2 x 230w isn't enough for 2 x 1080, you need the 2 x 330w.

CyberpowerPC tends to do this, short you on the power supply. And, last season they used a custom power connector that meant you couldn't use the normal MSI PSU either.

Oddly, when they first listed this 1080x2 model they had the correct power supply configuration, 2 x 330w.

Also oddly, they have a 2x330w "additional" PSU option in the expanded detail:

• Dual 230W AC Adaptor w/ Connector
• Additional Dual 330W AC Adaptor w/ Connector [+399]

It's possible the 230w is a typo, in 2 places... and it's supposed to read 330w in both places... you should call them or Chat online and get a written confirmation that the primary PSU's supplied are 330w x 2.

I wouldn't get involved with them, I have seen several people get shorted on PSU's. Their cheap price has to be made up somewhere, and they seem to do it by shorting on PSU's.

Instead get a "real" MSI model from another retailer or boutique seller that has the correct original configuration specifications.

 

I haven't seen it mentioned before, interesting, but hard to tell quality of seams and support via photo's.

The really good backpacks with longevity usually go for $160+...

But, you can get 3 of these for 1 of those expensive ones, so you could give it a try, and let us know how it works out

 

I believe they are correct, it's 1.4 only. Use the display port instead.

 

The GT80's had 4 x M.2 SATA.

Then with the GT80S it was changed to 2x M.2 PCIE x4 + 1 M.2 SATA.

The 2 M.2 PCIE x4 SSD's that came with it out of the box would need to get pulled to allow you to RAID the 2x M.2 PCIE x4 slots.

You could also try getting a 2.5" SATA + M.2 SATA and see if you can RAID0 SATA them together

You go into the BIOS after installing the new SSD's, and match up the 2x M.2 PCIE x4 drives in a RAID0 Volume, and if it works you can do the 2.5" SATA + M.2 SATA in to another RAID0 Volume.

BTW, I wouldn't waste $ on PCIE x4 drives, unless all you do is access IO the speed improvement will only be a fraction of the total processing wall time - you won't notice a big difference in day to day usage.

Instead for less $$$ you could do a 3x M.2 SATA 1TB RAID0:

$$$? - SAMSUNG 960 PRO M.2 1TB NVMe PCI-Express 3.0 x4 Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V6P1T0BW
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820147597

$269 - Sandisk SD8SN8U-1T00-1122 X400 1TB M.2 2280 Solid State Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...cm_re=x400_m.2_1tb-_-0D9-0006-000G1-_-Product

 

It is easy to set it up, first by going to the BIOS menu to change SATA mode to RAID. Create a disk array, and install OS after.

 

I can't get in touch with anyone there... Maybe I will have to go with MSI route, however, I can configure a laptop for about $1000 less from them with the same spec except for 32GB ram vs 64gb (really too much). Also if the hardware is the same does it really make a difference? They are both made by msi.

 

It's off hours on a weekend for them, try again tomorrow during the day shift, Pacific Time - California.

 

well back to the 2x 230, how would this not be enough for 2x 1080gtx cards? They use about 170 watt peak so thats 340 watts and the cpu is about 50 what for a total for 390 watts, that leaves 70 watts for heat/efficiency loss misc. Are the 330s only needed if you are overclocking?

 

while on the subject anyone used a watt meter while running the GT83VR at full spec/bench mark to see what type of watts they were pulling?

 

We don't have any reports back yet on the GT83VR 1080 SLI - not sure why, as some have shipped, but noone has done an in depth yet, including no wall power readings.

But, the P870DM3 1080 SLI wall power readings are over 500w, so that's above 2 x 230.

I would hope the GT83VR 1080 SLI pulls the same power as the P870DM3 1080 SLI, to give similar performance, so I would plan on 330w x 2 to cover full power operations.

The CPU's are different, with the GT83VR drawing 45w less at peak - give or take - but even if you subtract 45w from 500+ you get 455w+ which is right at the 230w x 2 = 460w border... you don't want to stress power supplies, they fail.

I wouldn't be in such a rush, noone has reviewed the GT83VR fully, which means the same for the FB4 version.

Wait, make the calls / chats until you reach sales / support people, and work out the 330w vs 230w issue - I think sales / support can configure your purchase correctly with 2 x 330w - give them the time to get it right the first time.

 

This is the problem, we haven't gotten any owner reports yet.

We were counting on @-=$tR|k3r=- for an in depth review of the GT83VR 1080 SLI, but he's got other things to do first...

 

I believe that's from the wall, so *.85 or so. The Clevo 1080s seem to be capped around 190W max. In any case, it depends on the MSI VBIOS, but 2x 230W is rather close for comfort given how absurdly safe MSI chooses to play it when it comes to EC power limits. See the GT80S 980 SLI fiasco.

 

display uses a lot of power, two pcie nvme ssd under load could get to 15w or higher. motherboard, keyboard backlit, wifi/bluetooth etc etc. 2x 230w should be enough for two 1080 if u dont oc.

wall readings aren't that accurate bro.

 

Ive been looking at the fangbook IV for a while so concerning to see it (240w x2) in the specs, but at the same time their pictures are of a GT80 based one and not a GT83 like has been shown on video. I found this page again which says the 1080SLI has 2x330w i think? https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/spec/getntbkspec.aspx?id=FB4EXTREME

 

They have a Chat, email, and phone support contact info, ask them