***The Official MSI GT83VR Titan SLI Owner's Lounge (NVIDIA GTX-1080's)***

MSI GT83 Titan series with the new generation Nvidia graphics GeForce GTX 1080 & GTX 1070

 

wasnt this posted a while back?

 

Nothing much new to post, it's an oldie but a goodie

 

so what laptop(s) are enthusiasts moving too if the 83 isn't so hot anymore?

 

The GT83VR is plenty hot, what are you talking about?

There weren't that many sellers until just recently, 26 sellers now showing:

MSI GT83VR Titan SLI-024 18.4″ Notebook - Core i7 6920HQ 2.9 GHz - 64 GB RAM - 2.024 TB SSD - Aluminum Black
$4,999
https://www.google.com/shopping/product/17401575681766393714?q=msi gt83vr&rlz=1C1CHNY_enUS692US692&oq=msi gt83vr&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i65j69i60l2.6965j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&prds=hsecnline,scoring&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiOuvi5qM_PAhVI42MKHQHYBLgQviQIhAM

Here it says "New Release", but only the 1080 SLI is available, the 1070 SLI models are Pre-Order.

MSI 18.4" GT83S Titan SLI Notebook B&H # MSGT83STS024 MFR # GT83VR TITAN SLI-024
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=1268736&gclid=CN7qzcqoz88CFYmffgodDbcP1A&is=REG&ap=y&m=Y&c3api=1876,92051678642,&A=details&Q=

I've noticed a lot more Youtube videos, but they are all non-English dialog... only a few new English ones that I have already posted

 

yea at least with the gt80 there was a lot more English videos by now lol.

 

The GT80 was rumored, announced, and released about 2 years before I saw you here... and it was the same then, it took forever for each new model to rumor, announce, and release, no different with the GT83VR.

MSI’S GT80 TITAN IS THE MOST RIDICULOUS LAPTOP OF 2014
The Titan is the first gaming laptop to have a mechanical keyboard
http://nvisionapp.com/msis-gt80-titan-laptop-ridiculous-laptop-2014/

 

hmscott is right, gt83vr is a good machine compare to a lot of high end laptop out there i think its more to do with the time when it come out and how it affected previous owners on 80 and 80s owner they are afraid of getting it due to upgrade issue. thing is little do they know if they dont get gt83vr, any other laptop out there come with soldiered GPU and upgrade isnt even an option, aside from clevo laptops.

even if people felt like they were lied to by MSI, they gotta understand how thing stands in mobile world and accept this fact, should be happy about MSI continue to offer MXM socket, or they can go for gx800 water cooling with 1 giant piece of motherboard with everything soldered on and forced to buy another laptop when the time comes, simple as that.

this laptop is a good one, msi made a lot of improvements over the previous gen, rarely u see laptop OEM go that far. last i remembered was m18x R1 to R2 and that only lasted 2 gen, MSI lasted 3 though im sure bunch of adjustment had to be made, if people are blind to it simply becauswe of the GPU upgrade issue then they are making huge mistakes by mixing things up. this and that are two different thing lol

 

People blind for gpu upgrade??? Be careful...msi pays you? I bought before they say i can upgrade!!! If u burn your money and you can afford 6000 eurks every yr...don't say it's a general rule and don't say msi can advertise about something and after...ops...was a false advertisment....

 

So I have a question about Gsync.
Cyberpowerpc Their msi gt83vr rebrand(fangbook) had a g-sync screen.
Does it make a big difference between msi gt83vr screen and fangbook extrem sli 1080 screen ?

Other question does the msi gt83vr support sodimm ram with 2666MHZ or 3000 Mhz ?

 

then i am sorry to say you bought into their marketing scheme, though this time around it isnt only MSI but nvidia is part of the greed as well.

now that you brought up your point, it still doesnt change fact that if you go for any other laptop OEM other than MSI/clevo, you are to replace laptop yearly because there are no upgrade option at all, you will be forced to purchase entire laptop though.

 

I bought because they said: you can upgrade for 2 (!!!!) Generations!
Otherwise i can tell u i buy alienware with external box! This was my alternative at that time or back to traditional multugpu watercooled traditional desktop!

Nvidia is not the problem for me: i give my money to msi.
With nvidia is their problem!
This means: they refound me and the act legally against nvidia if they committed something to msi.

I strongly believe this was not invidia, but a kind of bad marketing without respect to who give them 4000-6000 euro/dollar/pound like most of us that bought a gt80x

Last: eurocom seems is selling the upgrade for some of their product!

Before defend msi get informed please!

 

ole!!! don't take the users lightly here. They have a reason why they are mad, and marketing is not an excuse for what happened. zziplex is angry as he should be regarding the situation.

Now, keep this subject in the GT80/72 upgrade thread. Let's not flood the rest of the forum because there are genuine GT83 users here that need this thread to advise, help or otherwise inform other users or future users.

 

G-sync makes a huge difference when you run at low fps, up to the screen refresh rate. This means that it will be useless if you have enough power that greatly goes beyond 60fps for the 60hz screen. I think g sync is a great addition for lower end laptops, for example 1060 users, but for GT83, I think it is almost unnecessary, and might be better with an external monitor at 144hz.

As for RAM, I have seen configuration options use up to 2800mhz, RAM so I assume it can definitely use them, but it might take a BIOS change or something to enable higher speeds via XMP profiles.

 

How does their model have G-Sync? I thought all 18.4" panels out there were LVDS.

 

No idea, but I am thinking it is a typo since the rest of the model family (non GT83) are g-sync, so maybe they just copy pasted something.

 

I think it's a typo, last I checked it also said it sported "mobile z170" motherboard.

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Basically true. The higher the refresh rate on the monitor, the more useful G-Sync becomes on high-end systems; seems just about perfect for 120Hz - 144Hz screens.

 

1. G-Sync works on supported monitors to provide perfectly synced frames so the technique generally works on any monitor, including 60Hz ones.
2. With higher refresh rates on a monitor, which helps to reduce motion blur/tearing but does not eliminate it.
G-Sync works great overall.

Here's the Nvidia FAQ that explains pretty much everything about G-Sync.
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Yes but it can't reach full performance and throttles-- probably stresses the laptop and reduces life expectancy

 

Ok, So I have to ask... Are there actually any
MSI GT83VR Titan SLI Owner's (NVIDIA GTX-1080's)
in here?

 

Mine reaches me early next week.

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I ordered a GT73VR with a 1070, but I am considering getting the SLI version. Could anyone with the SLI 1070 (or 1080s) run some benchmarks with a program called Octane Render, for GPU CUDA rendering?

I would like to know the temps and score at the end of the benchmark.

You can find it at this forum: render.otoy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=56108&hilit=gtx+1080+bench

The benchmark files are on the first post on that thread. If you need any help with it, please let me know. I would greatly appreciate your help!!

 

I'll try it. If you don't mind throw me a PM so I can remember. I'll post it with the rest of my benchmarks.

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what laptop bags are people using for this laptop as i am having a job finding one big enough

 

I'll be using the stock one...though the everki titan seems to be a popular choice.



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Mine did not come with a bag

 

i have the everki titan already but was looking for something smaller so i can take on a plane as hand luggage

 

I asked a question a month ago about msi gt83vr but all I got was a video with the caption "maybe this will shed some light."

Well, maybe it's that I'm not knowledgeable enough to understand how the video answered my question, but bottom line is that, at least for me, no great amount of light was shed by it. Put another way, I am not exactly basking in the sunlight here.

It is possible that I missed some necessary context of the original query, because the video posted as an answer to my question had to do with freesync vs Gsync, if I remember correctly, which wasn't what I had in mind when I was posing my question.

Anyway, I will try asking the question again.

I don't recall who, but someone was asking about using the gt83vr for 4K 60fps on an external display (sorry, I don't recall if a specific display was referenced) and someone (I believe working for one of the shops) responded that "severe input lag" might be experienced.

This was a little alarming to me because one of the reasons I am interested in buying a 1080sli laptop is to be able to play games on an external 4K display. In particular, I am interested in hooking the laptop up to a large 4K TV. (I know, unfortunately MSI mysteriously refuses to build their laptops with an HDMI 2.0 port, so I will be using a special adaptor.)

Could anyone shed some light as to why this person thought "severe input lag" might be experienced using this laptop for 4K 60fps gaming? "Severe" input lag is not something I want. I know that I will quite possibly have noticeable input lag (especially since I plan to use a TV instead of a monitor as a display), but severe input lag is something I wish to steer clear of.

To be clear, I am fully aware that I won't be able to run all titles at 4K 60fps at high settings, but I believe the 1080sli setup should be capable of this with at least some titles.

To give a little more info, the 4K TV set will likely be a Sony and will have an input lag of anywhere from 35 to 45 ms. (I know, not great compared to a dedicated external monitor, but fairly good compared to some other 4K TVs out there.)

Thanks to anyone who can shed a little more light on this.

 

i use mine on a samsung 4k curved tv with hdmi and get an easy 60fps in game mode it works fantastic very impressed

 

im not much of a display person myself. two 1080 in SLI, would be able to play some games at 4k though not all of them at 60fps, not including micro stuttering.

as to answer your severe input lag, no one seem to have the laptop yet, and tbh i dont see why there would be input lag if not affected by GPU drivers. display port is pretty good and should be good to go unless its not capable of transmitting 4k at 60fps though i dont think that would be the case.

in conclusion i'd say you are in the clear, unless there are known issue with this laptop with previous gt80, gt80s generation (not that i have heard about it), wont find out unless there are many gt83vr owners with 1080 sli.

 

I think I recall that convo....they wanted to run it over tb3/usbc I think?

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Everki titan

 

Lol I suggested that one. He has one but it's too bulky for his needs.

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I see no reason why you would experience any worse input lag than usual. Maybe the post you're referring to was talking about using a TV as the output device?

Also, the HDMI port is almost certainly revision 2.0. MSI is just awful at putting up consistent and accurate info on specs pages. My GT80S did 4:4:4 4K 60Hz just fine.

 

There is, or should not be any additional input lag. Maybe the conversation was regarding playing on a particular TV. Most folk have 4K TVs rather than monitors, and some of those TVs do have noticeable input lag. I game with my GT80 using an Displayport to HDMI 2.0 converter and play at 4K, but my TV does have input lag that has been tested and I knew before hand.

If your TV has low input lag, you won't, or should not be expecting additional lag.

 

Really? I hope so. Even newer GT series still show as 1.4 and only GS series show as 2.0.

 

I'll test it again tonight when I get home from work and upload a screen.

 

I used this one for 2+ years

https://www.amazon.com/Kenneth-Cole...=8-15&keywords=Kenneth+cole+reaction+backpack

 

Thanks to anyone who can shed a little more light on this.[/QUOTE]

 

The GT80 came with a MSI Hermes backpack, but the GT83VR might be a little thicker, so not sure it will fit.

MSI Hermes Backpack
The MSI Hermes has three large compartments and several additional pockets, you can be sure that you can bring all of your gear with you.

Available sizes: 14", 17" and 18“

52 cm x 36 cm x 13 cm

https://us.msi.com/collections/pages/MSI-Hermes-Backpack.html

Spoiler: In the future, another GT model...

I also use an Oakley Kitchen Sink. It's big, but not as bulky as the Everki Titan.

The problem with the Titan for me is that it pooches out - extending infinitely (seemingly) until it's a good 2.5 feet extended and doesn't balance well (for me) with a full load of what I carry (heavy).

The Oakley Kitchen sink isn't extendable, but has a large middle compartment that holds a GT80 and a GT83VR should have no problem fitting too. I use the "laptop slot" for a Macintosh laptop - thin fit slot.

http://www.oakley.com/en/mens/bags-...060A/?categoryCode=m060101&skuCode=92060A-001

Oakley has 2 new sizes besides the original Kitchen Sink - the larger Big Kitchen Sink and the smaller Bathroom Sink, plus a gear bag named the Hot Tub bag, and a Briefcase:
http://www.oakley.com/en/mens/bags-accessories/bags-backpacks/sink-series/category/m060101

Spoiler

 

is it confirmed gt83vr is thicker than 80s? i'd like to know how much thicker.

 

You can look GT83VR up on the MSI web site:
https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GT83VR-6RF-Titan-SLI.html#hero-specification

GT83VR Dimension (WxDxH) mm
458 x 339 x 42~69

And, then look up the GT80S:
https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GT80S-6QF-Titan-SLI-29th-Anniversary-Edition.html#hero-specification

GT80 Dimension
456(W) x 330(D) x 49(H)mm

The new cooling at the back of the GT83VR stacks quite high, to accommodate that the rear was lifted quite a bit to 69mm.

Watch the video again, and you can see the added thickness outside and inside, at 5:36 is really clear - 69mm = 2.7 inches and the video measures it at almost 3 inches in the rear, disassembly starts at 21:00:
https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GT80S-6QF-Titan-SLI-29th-Anniversary-Edition.html#hero-specification

 

[/QUOTE]
He would like me to test a bench mark for GPU accelerated professional software.
And I asked him to PM it to me so I could find it before the post gets lost. Lol



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He would like me to test a bench mark for GPU accelerated professional software.
And I asked him to PM it to me so I could find it before the post gets lost. Lol

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Hey NuclearLizard I actually meant to write that I could not PM you till 11pm today. And also to ask you to check if you could disable SLI, before doing the benchmark. As it is not needed for GPU rendering and might even help some times, as the scaling here should be 100%.

I will still PM you the link to the benchmark again with instructions now that I can. Thank you!!


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More delays on getting this thing into the country.

I'll post again once I eventually get it.

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what is better: i7-6820HK or with HQ cpu version?

 

6920HQ has better clocks out of the box, 6820HK is Oc able to around 4ghtz on all 4 cores from what I'm told.

Otherwise I do believe they are identical specs.

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with good silicon 6820hk should be more than capable of 4.4-4.5ghz overclock.

 

That's ridiculus, and noone reading this should dream about getting 4.4-4.5ghz in an MSI laptop with a 6820HK.

It's not going to happen with stock BIOS, and I don't recommend pushing the already hot and power hungry system by taking off the safety limits put into the BIOS or vbios. The benefits for day to day use are zero, and the benchmarking numbers a fleeting reason to waste the time.

Such a high OC is not needed to use the laptop for applications and gaming, and it's only for benchmark bragging rights - and honestly, who cares?

Getting 4.0ghz is quite possible for long term use.

4.1ghz/4.2ghz is doable if you are willing to take the time to find the right combination of voltage and settings to get it stable - but I only used these speeds for benchmarking myself. I lived on 4.0ghz.

Most games are still GPU bound, and you will see low utilization for the CPU with GPU usage nearing 99%, even at 1080p.

Higher resolution on external monitors will take even less CPU.

Why go through all the trouble to jack up the CPU only to have it lost in low utilization while gaming??