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    ***The Official MSI GT83VR Titan SLI Owner's Lounge (NVIDIA GTX-1080's)***

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Aug 13, 2016.

  1. ole!!!

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    try to get it replaced if you can however dead pixel would probably only warrant you a replacement of your display and not the led control board? maybe ask them to replace everything?

    dealing with OEM and their customer service is infact one of the most painful thing to do. computer is a very complex thing and theres no way these customer service rep know what you are talking about. this is why people should treat OEM as simply parts holders and purchase from resellers.

    resellers that have people like meaker/johnkss work for them knows way more.
     
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    heh or you could say laptop were borned with bga defects and people gets infected can't think the LGA way :D

    i for one like LGA cause of capable of swapping chip. imho soldering GPU is utter trash method of wanting to make more money and forcing people to buy new gen if they wish to upgrade. CPU on the other hand ain't as bad because they cost less than GPUs and its dead set by intel anyway as they force chipset limitation each generation since sandybridge with exception of HEDT lineup.

    if BGA CPU has good silicon then i'd have way less problem with it. though still doesnt change the fact that if u get a good chip say in your gt83 laptop and a portion of mobo breaks, your chip goes bye bye with it.
     
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    getting hot in here
     
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    This as well is why sold my first gen GT80. I had the crappy 4820hq and certain games had ridiculous frame drops. Like standing under a particular tree in BF4 would drop me from 120 frames to 60.
    Even though I'm a Clevo fan now, Im starting to the the GT73 may be the best single gtx 1080 gpu option right now ( with the better cpu option).
    Too bad they look so flashy :(
     
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    stock paste... when i tried to have xotic pc paste with clu they screwed up and I had them rebuild me the laptop from scratch.... and lost my money on the clu too lol.
     
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    whats whitebook?
     
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    update all of your drivers, try double clicking it. works for me....
     
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    Doesn't intel like constantly change sockets lol...
     
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    and resellers are supposed to help>i have not really seen this method of support work--- they always refer me back to the oem....
     
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    if you're using stock paste then thats good. CLU is only good if your able to keep the temperature lowered through out the times you're using it and generally much better for desktop with water cooling for long term longevity.


    yep they do, which is why i mentioned for CPU BGA is a bit better because even if itts LGA, to upgrade we will still have to buy new motherboard/laptop. its better than having BGA GPUs doesnt mean its ok to do it though, intel is greedy.


    what kind of help were you trying to get on ur gt80s?
     
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    Do you know which drivers exactly? Already reinstalled the SCM twice and the Synaptics once.
     
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    barebone version of a retail unit
     
  13. mason2smart

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    Which is why Intel needs some REAL competition because right now they are milking customers more than Nvidia
     
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    I feel the same way with the GT73 (1080/6820hk), it probably is the best all around that your money can buy currently. I actually and still think about purchasing one myself, if it was delivered with a 1440p option I would have probably already purchased one. I hope that one day soon MSI will announce the delivery of 1440p in their lineup, one reason I hang out here to keep measurement on everything to weigh my options.
     
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    When they pasted with cu all corres but core zero went down 10 Celsius but core zero went up like 20 Celsius.
     
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    So desktop CPU runs cooler too??????
     
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    Try wiping if nothing works... Install in order listed look for errors and try to fix them in event viewer. Upgrade gpu driver. Not all drivers are listed try downloading a free driver update utility
     
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    What about the 1070 SLI?
     
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    When will Intel be upping their core count?

    If desktop and mobilr are so close in performance then why is it u can't seem to render stuff on my gt80 CPU?

    Takes 24+ hours to render a 30 sec 3 pass ray trace (which should use some gpu but doesn't seem to do so)on a simple composition of one 3d obj and one light in after effects???
    When I got to undo changes it lags and CPU goes all crappy on me.

    Same problem in Maya....
     
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    Nobody milks customers more than Nvidia.

    Also, you have an edit button.
     
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    Anyone having issues with muddy sound coming through their ess sabre DAC? Especially on lows?
     
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    Yes that crossed my mind too but knowing that there is still a single card that can perform better at that price point bothers my mind, If I could test both and weight them out I would feel much more confident but that not possible unless I buy both and ship them back which is a gamble as places are cracking down. I use Oculus quite a bit and really enjoy the different experience so the best single card is suited here then the benchmarking enthusiast in me says SLI please so I always look in that direction for dual purpose. Hopefully this makes sense.
     
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    yep nvidia milks hard.

    thats a poor paste job indeed LOL but something gotta know theres no way to have every core at same temperature. for quad core i7 design, the two middle core will have less way to dissipate heat as they are bound by two outer cores so under same load or idle, outer two cores usually run the coolest, all based on design.

    thats a vague statement. if given same parameter for desktop and mobile CPU, ie same generation/same architecture, same frequency, same cores/threads, same power input with no bios & throttle limitation, higher end Desktop CPU will run cooler because better binned silicon quality.

    even if mobile CPU an desktop CPU are similar in terms of binned quality, the actual die contact for mobile CPU is smaller than desktop anyway so area of contact (under IHS for desktop) is smaller hence harder to dissipate heat.
     
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    why even use mobile versions at all in that case? Srously, MSI why not go with higher perf. if its cheaper, runs cooler, and and socketed?
     
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    You can ask them directly over the thread questions, or to company representatives. I suppose they have a deal with intel since all their models use the "mobile" CPUs and thus it might have been cheaper for them to offer their machines on that.

    I agree they should use desktop CPUs with their flagship laptops, particularly because thickness is not an issue.

    But the GT83 does not use a desktop CPU and we have come several pages discussing the same, please keep this thread for owners of the GT83. We can discuss desktop CPUs in a separate thread, considering there is at least 1 model with desktop CPU, the 16L1 barebones.
     
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    all in all money for greed!. intel puts pressure on OEMs to use their mobile cpu and possibly give them a discounted rate for mass purchase to load off their lower quality silicon. imho these high end laptop like gt83vr, asus and acer 21x all have enough space to house the desktop CPU and capable of cooling them.

    i would be stoked to see other OEM uses desktop cpu than just clevo so give us a lot more option.
     
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    Will kabylake mobile SKUs get 6+ cores?
     
  28. ole!!!

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    no, the earliest is mid 2018 from coffee lake. it'll be build onto the same architecture as cannonlake which will come end of 2017 or early 2018 but instead of on 10nm like cannonlake it'll be on 14nm process.


    u've my attention now! 16L1 barebone that some type of MSI laptop barebone housing a desktop cpu?
     
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    Check the GT62VR thread. @Talon already received his, and is rocking a 6700K so far running at 4ghz on stock without thermal or power throttling issues, no undervolt or anything yet.
     
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    :rolleyes:

    talon's 16L13 posts start here:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...scussions-lounge.793857/page-72#post-10353739
     
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    Well I was afk for a few days, this was an interesting thread to catch up on..the 16L13 looks interesting, now if only msi made something like that in DTR.

    I got word that my GT83 should be setting down in canada by the 12th, and should be in my hands by the end of that week. a bit behind schedule but i managed to snag a deeply discounted acer preditor x34 and a keyboard for my troubles. :)
     
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    Always go to the link(s) in a post before asking questions.

    Usually post text refers to information in the link.

    In this case it would have given you the model number, so you didn't need to ask.
     
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    I talked with their tech support , he said it's exactly like the MSI GT83VR but with their branding and upgrades.
    And it supports the msi drivers like the original gt83vr . Also it uses 330 psu and same as the gt83vr you will have two power bricks.

    For the price and everything, I will soon buy this laptop as it's gt83vr but from cyberpowerpc with their name on it . Otherwise it's almost all msi gt83vr from the inside and outside.
    This is the link to the laptop http://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/system/Fangbook_4_XTREME_SLI_1080
     
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    lol last time i saw it up there they said it had orange lighting (if i remember correctly) lol usually once upgraded it comes out to be around the same $$$

    Does it still have the steelseries keyboard?
     
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    Yeah I know it's their brand color I guess. I'm okay with eny colour. As long as the performance as perfect I'm good with that.
     
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    Yes it comes with steelseries keyboard and it's cheaper than the msi gt83vr. 5000 € for msi and 4100€ for cyberpowerpc .

    It's exactly the same the only difference is the colour , and some internals I guess ssd , HDD, RAM
     
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    so they do swap out the red for orange thats awesome! send some pictures when u get it. both in a light and dark room please!
     
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    the big question is HOW did they manage to sell it cheaper?
     
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    you do realize this is the same company
    http://www.ibuypower.com/Category/LandingPage/MSI-GT

    and they sell them as msi laptops instead of rebrands

    Not that orange isn't cool as i myself am fond of orange, but it won't match the keyboard....lol.
     
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    Those are only last gen MSI models
     
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    i don't understand thius cyberpower thing... why buy from them instead of msi? does it affect warranty?

    seems to be an exact msi but with different bios logo and no branding... people that see it will be like is that a titan or a Chinese imitation lol. do they make any of their laptops???lol...




    Only gt80 cyberpower vid i could find -- also its misssing the dragon etching on the top plate.... and they do not show the back plate...




    this laptop looks kinda cool
     
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    yeah but if you ask i bet they have them and could match their sister site in price
     
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    Give them a try.
     
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    I'm really not sure to be honest on what to buy , it's either MSI GT83VR or Fangbook 4 XTREME SLI 1080 . They are both the same but one is cheaper. I might still end up buying the msi version, because I need that dragon on it
     
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    Is there a big difference in GPU power between msi gt83vr with gtx 1080 sli and the gtx 1070 sli ?
     
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    but the good thing about buying barebone is you can load up your own RAM and SSD from retail companies (not generic oem ssd/ram)



    hm, ibuypower sell msi branded, while cyberpower use their own brand?

    wonder why did they split the company like this




    diff between 1070 and 1080 20% ish








    Can someone please double check with cyberpower if the HDMI 1.4 and DP 1.2 is a typo? I would be really turned off if that was the case.
     
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    I will ask them on Monday.
    Although it's a typo as they have a lot of mistakes, but if you call or email them they will give the correct information
     
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    who makes the vector 17?
     
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    seems like compal or gigabyte, lesser known odm/oem we never hear before




    @kinf please do ask, I am curious about this.
     
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