***The Official MSI GT83VR Titan SLI Owner's Lounge (NVIDIA GTX-1080's)***

@hmscott i'd have to disagree with you there. its thoughts like those that make people think its OKAY to be mediocre and think everything should be done for them. I totally get your point, we pay premium so we should expect everything done for us however thats not how I see it. we all very well know companies do things in THEIR own best interest, not ours, hence they only beautify the exteriors.

imho consumers have a heavy responsibility for knowing the product they buy and try to understand it as much as possible. its sad to see so many, like SO MANY people give the phrase i pay for it so i want everything done and simply not care about anything else. Its how people get brainwashed and gets stupid not bother to think or learn, and have someone else decide for them what is good, I know you're not one of those but that train of thought is dangerous.

these OEMs CAN make a far better machine and give you better ones for same amount of money you spent., yet they wont do it because they pocket even the thinnest profit as much as possible for the sake of their share holders.


back to topic.. from start of GT80 to 80s and now 83VR, especially 83VR had quite an improvement over those previous 2 generation and tbh im quite happy to see MSI making these changes and making me want to buy a GT83VR. thats what improvement should be about, of course if it pairs up with a good bios and socketed CPU it'll be even more amazing.

 

hwbot is cpu only though??? why use bga cpu then?

 

I originally asked XoticPC to paste my laptop with CLU and they failed to do it properly and I had to argue with them and got them to build me a new one from scratch (which was nice of them considering they didn't have to do that) but I still kinda wish it was pasted with CLU.... Would'a kept thermals lower as the cpu throttles a lot

 

Most reviews for SAGER/CLEVO i see online is "was the absolute awesomest laptop I have ever seen and a beast of the machine.... for the three months it worked properly...then it died horribly"

@Mr. Fox
what about eurocom? don't you use them?

 

at this point im probably just gonna wait till trade ins...

 

input lag???

 

Even more of a reason to do it yourself. It was a mistake to pay someone else to do something they don't know how to do correctly. You have to view vendors as a source for parts and nothing more.

The key to good results with CLU is application technique, but if the heat sink doesn't fit well nothing is going to work well until you get another heat sink that does. Temps will actually be worse, not better, using CLU if the heat sink does not fit correctly.

Sure, I have purchased things from Eurocom before. They are one of a select few Clevo distributors in North America. The vast majority of Clevo resellers get their product from one of the few distributors and rebrand them. I am very thankful they exist. I am also very thankful that they truly have upgrades and the interests of enthusiasts at heart. The vast majority of aftermarket MXM upgrades in North America have been made possible because of their presence. They are also a @Prema partner and that carries tons of weight in my book. I think Clevo would be messed up really bad without their power and influence to keep them on track. I just wish that @EurocomTechspert would spend more time here like @Meaker@Sager, @Ted@HIDevolution, @Donald@HIDevolution, @Tanner@XoticPC , @pat@XOTICPC, @mythlogic, @Larry@LPC-Digital and @Prostar Computer do.

When it comes time for Mr. Fox to spend his money, he will spend it where the best deal can be found. I don't like spending more than necessary. That's why I bought the P870DM-G from @tanzmeister out of Finland. Except in the case of a manufacturing defect or hardware defect, I am more or less self-sufficient and do not rely on the vendor for warranty support. I take things apart and put them back together how I want them to be. I cannot be confident in work done by anyone's hands other than my own, with the exception of @Prema, @Khenglish and @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER I don't want other people touching my stuff.

 

So far, my 6820 has had trouble holding high clocks so the 6920 being able to hold up 2 bins higher may actually be better as it starts off higher than the 6820 hk. Mine sometimes throttles at 38x oc.

 

yes but most reviews state sager and clevo laptops only last a few months...

Also what did you think of powernotebooks going out of business... didnt donald used to work there or is the donald at HID a different donald?

 

can't the CLU spill out when ur on the go?

I read that somewhere...

 

No, it's not....

 

People that make those statements are just ignornant. I have had more reliability problems with Dell and Alienware products than I have had with Clevo. I think that may also be true for @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER and his experience. Dell/Alienware had a truly amazing warranty (best available anywhere) with NBD on-site service and overnight parts-only dispatch, and that's a damn good thing because I had to use it frequently.

PowerNotebooks was a great company for many years and enjoyed a stellar reputation. @Meaker@Sager used to represent them. Yes, @Donald@HIDevolution was the owner of that company. He is a very honest Christian businessman and was always a trustworthy vendor to deal with. The rain falls on the just and the unjust and something at a personal level happened that was not fortunate. But, he is still the same Donald that we always loved and appreciated. I could not be happier that he is working with @Ted@HIDevolution and @Zoltan@HIDevolution and @thattechgirl_viv at HIDevolution now. It's awesome that he is working with a @Prema partner. That affords him some added flexibility that was not available as a Sager distributor.

 

mr. fox is right, for majority of those people are just those who spends money and doesn't wish to deal with aftermath. however in reality it couldn't be more wrong as nothing in life is perfect and there are always a percentage of hardware pass QC not caught and its just a matter of time. or simply stupid user error on their ends.

though i didnt fully see their issues at hand, i could guess a good number of them simply blame company/machine for w/e issue is at hand.

 

how do clevos compare with the GT80/83 in terms of reliability/build quality, dependability, driver/software support?

 

I've not had any issues with my Clevos. Nor have I needed drivers that I could not find. I cannot answer about build quality since MSI doesn't sell anything except for notebooks with BGA CPUs. I have never owned one and will never consider that as an option until they fix that fatal error. From what I can see their build quality seems comparable, other than the random issue Clevo has with heat sinks that don't fit well. Hard to say on that as well since BGA CPUs are not very overclockable to the same extent as desktop K-series CPUs. So, I am not sure, nor is anyone else, just how the heat sinks they are using would hold up in that scenario.

 

MSi build quality is solid, especially for a 18" laptop. I tried the GT80S Titan (6820HK, 980M) for a couple days (wasn't enough to actually test overclock etc etc). Very little flex when normal usage, the surface is fairly resistant to scratch and hides well the fingerprint marks.

Screen wise, there's flexing if you actually try to bend the panel, but this will not happen under normal usage. Bleed is also very light compared to the 17R3 4K I previously borrowed. Hinge is essentially one-hand open due to how heavy the bottom compartment is, it's also tight enough to resist light wobbles.

The internals are a different story though. Also the panel is still 1080P 60HZ...

 

yea from the looks of gt83vr i'd say it looks pretty solid, still one of the sturdiest machine i ever had is xps m2010, m18x follow behind it though not quite the same level.

 

Hello

I just got the Gt83vr and been trying it out the last days. I am a noob at this, so I was wondering if this scores are okay ? I have the Gt83vr gtx1070 sli and the 6820HK version. I run the benchmarks in turbo mod at 3,97Ghz.

Unigine Heaven beanchmark 4.0

Fps: 128.2
Score: 3232
Min FPS: 26.5
Max FPS: 235.9

Render: Directx11
Mod:1920x1080 8xaa Fullscreeen
Preset:custom
Quality high
Tessellation:extream

Unigine Valley Benchmark 1.0

Fps: 81.2
Score: 3399
Min FPS:23.8
Max FPS:128.2

Render: Directx11
Mod:1920x1080 8xaa Fullscreeen
Preset:custom
Tessellation:extream

 

can you provide us with temps?

Could you try firestrike and firestrike extreme?


Use something like hw monitor and see if there is throttling and measure min average and max temp. Take screenshots. Also try modulating your cpu oc. We have not had many benchmarks posted yet so more info would be much appreciated.



If you want to get 3dmark pro, you can get it really cheap here: https://www.g2a.com/3dmark-steam-cd-key-global.html?___store=englishus

 

Okay, I will try my best. But This **** is way out of my league. Modulating your cpu oc ? ? Do I need to buy Firestrike ?

 

nah u dont need to buy it. To change cpu go into msi dragon gaming center and overclock it to around 3.9-4.0 ghz in steps. post each test up here. But please use firestrike as that is usually the standard around here.
Its free but if you want to log them all under your username, then you should buy it. Also tell us if you use max fans or not, as it will affect temps (recommended you do use it). as an example click on the 3dmark button in my footer.

 

Just install firestrike and run them as is. No need to know anything about overclocking at this time.

 

Fire strike results. Turbo fan on, overclocked to 3,9ghz in dragon center. Hope this is okay, I can run firestrike extreme now.

Firestrike results: http://imgur.com/2tHf8Wn

Dragon center: http://imgur.com/j2h3tZ8 http://imgur.com/nIDyXFD

 

Futuremark offers a free login and free downloads of 3dmark. I have been using their service free for years, and find no need to use steam's version, free or otherwise.

Sign up here, and download 3dmark:
https://www.3dmark.com/login

You can share your results links from Futuremark, here is one of my Fire Strike (Free) results:

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5708173

They are also useful to help determine if your hardware is in good running condition. You can see if your temperatures are good - not too high - and if your GPU / CPU are performing as expected.

Thanks for taking the time to run the tests and post them.

 

Thanks for posting the scores, but could you also post the futuremark result URL? That way we can compare your scores against others, by the individual scores as well.

You can add for Compare my result score and other GT83VR result scores, with yours to do a Comparison, when we share the URL's of the results.

You do have both power supplies plugged in? 2 x 330w? Or, 2 x 230w?

 

Hey if you don't mind and have the games would you throw Witcher, fallout 4 and some other demanding games through the wringer to see how it comes out?

Especially at 1440p pretty please?
I'm still battling between this and the p870.

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I got 3dmark form steam. It Was like 20 dollars! compared to the laptop it was cheap No problem, it was fun in a weird way! hehe. Will run Time spy and Fire Strike exstream now. On turbo fan and overclocked to 3.9. Here is a direct link to my results: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10204697 Will try to use the CPUID HWMonitor in the background now Noob out!

 

I have both power supplies plugged in. 230w. Will install fallout and witcher lather.

 

can you send us the link to the final result as well? we would like to have temps too if you can run a logger like hwinfo/hwmonitor in the background during your tests then send us a screenshot of the sensors page

 

I think you are the first GT83VR 1070 SLI delivered, your's is the only score showing right now on Futuremark

http://www.3dmark.com/search?_ga=1....HK&gpuName=NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 (Notebook)

Then change the "Number of GPUs" dropdown menu from Any to 2.

No one else has your model to compare to

Here is the comparison against my GT80 SLI-263 980m SLI, note your CPU score is a little low, so I think you can still OC it to 4.0ghz.

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/5708173/fs/10204697

I'm not sure if the MSI Gaming Center sets all 4 cores to 3.9ghz as you have it set, or only the first core. We usually uninstall MSI Gaming Center and directly use Intel Extreme Tuning Utility for CPU tuning and MSI Afterburner + RivaTuner for GPU tuning.

Pretty exciting stuff the first time through, but it's really not tough, just time consuming to edge up values a little at a time for CPU tuning, and then when stable to do the same for GPU tuning.

Have fun

 

If you have any other cpu crushing games I would be interested in seeing those results as well.

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He would probably like specific game suggestions, why don't you suggest the ones you are interested in.

Most games are GPU bound, so those are the ones I am interested in seeing, but a good cross-section of games is best.

Let's give @Royalm a break though, he's got lots of things he wants to do too

 

Time Spy: http://www.3dmark.com/spy/464634 Okay, will try to use intel extreme tuning in the future and msi afterburner

 

Thanks for the bench.

Are your fans really 5k fans? And if so, how loud are those?

Also, paid version is better than free. You can't do any tailor testing like you can do with paid version. Great for finding your weak spots and trying to overcome them.

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/464634/spy/321242#
Looking like a pretty decent start. Not far off the halfway mark (Meaning double the performance using SLI) of a single and you haven't even fully overclocked it yet. That is promising.

 

There aren't any 2 x 1070 SLI results listed yet

But, @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER has a single 1070 score using the same 6820HK CPU, maybe John can give you some helpful tuning advice to get your CPU score up as high as his? John?

Also, your GPU score shows SLI scaling of about 75%, maybe John can also help you with your 1070 tuning to get that scaling up higher.

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/464634/spy/321242

 

Lol true, I'm getting excited I want to pull a trigger on something tomorrow. RIP Asus rog 751jw. Lol

I guess I'm looking for Witcher 3, fallout 4, space engineers, mech warrior online (I think that's cpu bound), minecraft with a butt load of mods, I'm not sure what else. Lmao

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Tnx for all the help everyone All help is greatly appreciated @hmscott The fans in turbo is loud @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER . But when I play battlefront they are quiet. And the game runs excellent all maxed out. Fire strike extream results: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10205048

 

@NuclearLizard Will instal witcher 3 now but need some sleep soon. Maby you have to wait for tomorrow for some scores.

 

No problem. I should have been more specific I don't mean to push it all on you. It was more of an open invitation to anyone with a unit. Though anything you can offer would be greatly appreciated.

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No problem @NuclearLizard What program do I need to capture some scores for you in witcher 3 ?

 

It looks like @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER didn't submit a FS Extreme result, and comparing against the highest single 1070 (no 2 x 1070 SLI's!), your GPU's are scaling at the expected 95%, so that submitter must be using the MSI Gaming Center Sport mode too; your CPU scores (Physics) are very close too.

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/10205048/fs/10103246

So I'd say your GT83VR 1070 SLI is looking good so far

 

@Royalm I'm not sure. I think some kind of combination of HWinfo and Riva tuner (in the msi afterburner.

I'm a noob to benching and probing myself.

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This is actually promising for MSI. I thought @-=$tR|k3r=- would have posted some benchmarks with his already, but he must be doing some internal testing and loading....

 

Tnx @hmscott thats what I like to hear WIll run witcher 3 next. Do you know a program to capture fps scores ?

 

I don't think TW3 has a built in benchmark, still nothing - just checked, here are some things to look at:

https://www.google.com/search?q=wit...bt_JnPAhUSwGMKHdxJBKkQpwUIFg&biw=1078&bih=532

Rise of the Tomb Raider, Shadow of Mordor, the Batman games, and may others have built-in Benchmarks

You can enable the MSI AfterBurner OSD (on screen display) and set / tune options in AB and Rivatuner for FPS, GPU usage, CPU usage, CPU/GPU temps, grow the text size please - it's pretty small by default.

And you don't need every CPU core shown, just the single CPU % temp etc.

It's also nice to have the GPU / CPU memory usage as well.

Look at some videos on YT as in that link above to see how they select and place the OSD items; mostly it'll show how *not* to do it, but you'll see the options displayed, and get an idea of what to pick and how to show it for best viewing - not under game HUD's or static info.

I use hwinfo64 to log stuff during long gaming sessions to see how often the Max values are actually reached.

Quite often those disturbingly high temps are only reached initially as the MSI Fan plans ramp up slowly in response to heat rises.

MSI/Asus tend to keep the noise down and heat up unless you really press the point and keep the CPU/GPU hot for a longer time than a transient rise.

Rivatuner will also let you set a FPS limit to keep the GPU/CPU running away spitting out more frames than you can use. Any FPS over refresh, 60hz, 120hz, etc are wasted energy and heat.

Keep the FPS limiter in RTSS off while benchmarking

You can also OC that 18.4" display. Mine ran at 100hz as does most others, some reaching 110hz and 120hz, but don't count on it.

You create the Custom Resolutions in the Nvidia Control Panel, click Custom(ize) and enable resolutions not support by display, and then create a new one - only change the refresh rate, then save it and it will be tested.

If the screen goes blank it should come back, but sometimes it doesn't, so power off your laptop with the power button - so don't have a bunch of other things running when testing the limits of display resolution

Here is what it looks like when set up with values starting at 100hz, and then increments under that to fit games that won't run @ 100 FPS and over:

 

@NuclearLizard Running witcher 3 at ultra settings, and postprossing at all high. Runnes super nice locked at 60 frames. Can run some real tests tomorrow. And now I did not overclock it. so cpu at But its at 1080p. Thats the screen res. But I can try hocking it up to my Predatorx34 tomorrow 3.17ghz.

 

Acer preditor x34 the 1440p moniter? Aka MY EXACT PROPOSED SETUP? I'll take anything you can feed me. Lol

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need cpu bencher.. haha

 

So I'm working on pulling the trigger on one of these models today. Is there a huge huge difference between the 6820hk and the 6920hq?

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not sure which is better but from experience, if you have the$$ the 690 is probably the better option