Is this the GT80 Titan 263 with dual 980m's in sli? I've had mine for a week now and have had no problems whatsoever with loud fan noise. I've played GTA 5 a little and the fans started getting a little louder, but it wasn't anywhere near to being unbearable. I'm quite pleased so far with my purchase.
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The 4980HQ TDP is 47W , no ?
The ambient temp of the room was 29°C/30°C . So yes, the result is very good
Same with CPU OC, the max temp was 89°C ! (@ 4,1GHz, -40mV Dynamic Voltage)
In game (BF4), the CPU doesn't exceed 89°C. Now I have to try with a long party game.
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Thinking of buying this and putting it in the laptop:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-XP941...8&qid=1439569823&sr=8-3&keywords=samsung+pcie
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These are what I have installed:
Samsung Evo 850 500GB M.2 SATA
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-850-E...=1439570278&sr=8-1&keywords=samsung+m.2+500gb
Here are some performance numbers for RAID0 1x,2x,3x, and 4x (as 4x Micron M600's)
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...n-owners-lounge.769092/page-253#post-10062997chronoshift likes this. -
OK , MSI GT80 2QE-032NL arrived today with the following specs:
Display: 18.4" WUXGA LED, resolutie 1920 x 1080
Processor: Mobile Intel Core i7 4720HQ Quad-Core (2.60 GHz)
Cache: 6 MB
Chipset: Intel HM87
Geheugen: 16 GB DDR3 SODIMM
Videokaart: 2x NVIDIA GeForce GTX980M 8 GB GDDR5 in SLI
SSD: 256 GB (2x 128 GB)
Harddisk: 1TB SATA 7200rpm
Optische drive: BD-RW
Out of the box standard Firestrike test, no overclocking or tweaks gave me a GPU score of 17,771. That sound about right?
I ran the test with the automatic fan settings (so I did not override with the maximum fan button). Max temps during the test were:
CPU - 84c
GPU1 - 68c
CPU2 - 80c
as measurement by Open Hardware Monitor. Again - sound about right?
Assuming the score and temps are within range, then I'm happy
EDIT: Hmm, noticed that max volume is a fair bit quieter than with my GT70-20D. With headphones I have to have it at max volume settings using MPC-HC, whereas on my GT70-20D I'm on maybe 1/2 to 2/3. Its not a problem per se I think, but is it to be expected? Its the same via headphone and the laptop speakers.Last edited: Aug 14, 2015 -
I'd probably just add the drive you referenced without putting it in a raid or anything, and not remove any of the current drives for now
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the TDP regulation indeed happens and limits power to 47w but turbo exceeds those limits. At 4gh+ your cpu is consuming upwards to 80w for a minute. After turbo window ends, your cpu will drop its speed back to 3.5 or so.
This happens mostly with heavy cpu loads. If whatever you are playing does not exceed the tdp limit, your cpu will operate at its max turbo.
If you want to see what i mean in action, run cinebench cpu multi core test while watching hwmonitor. You will see your speeds and power consumption raise around 79w and then fall to 47w before the test is over, along with your speed.
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Hmm.. just busy testing my MSI GT80 2QE-032N. Gettings some serious phantom keypresses, and lagging when typing. Multiple additional characters, and extra deletes etc. Not all the time, but not good when it happens.
Any ideas what might be causing this, and how to resolve?
Uninstalling the steelseries software seems to have helped, but I need to do more testing to be certain....
I've also had a few "nvidia driver has stopped working and recovered" errors (with the 1 sec black screen as the driver restarts). Currently running the 355.60 drivers. Anyone else noticing the same?Last edited: Aug 14, 2015 -
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MSI GT80 Titan-263 – Full Review by XOTIC PC - 15:50 at the point they show the insides
I also have the SLI-263 model. There are 3x M.2 slots in a RAID configuration under the top panel - left of middle. The 2 x 128GB RAID live there, leaving one M.2 slot open.
Then there is 1 free/open M.2 slot and 1 2.5" SATA II position that the 1TB drive occupies, right of middle under the top panel.
That top panel area is also where 2 of the 4 DDR3L SODIMM slots live.
When you get the GT80, immediately - and I do mean right after going through the Windows set up that creates your account and logs you in - run the BurnRecovery application. In fact MSI will likely use their Reminder app to flash up such a notice to make a recovery backup on the bottom left corner - click on it and start it up.
You will need at least a 32GB USB 3.0 thumb drive - make it a really fast one, and I used a 64GB one so I could put lots of installation files and drivers for my favorite stuff on it, so I could quickly recovery from a drive failure.
Note that the BurnRecovery program uses 19GB on your 32/64/? GB drive for the recovery image.
Now you are set. You have the ability to pull all 3 drives out - both M.2 SSD's and the 1TB drive, and use the USB thumb drive to restore to whatever you want to install - like 3x or 4x 500GB Samsung Evo 850 M.2's
Note, I was serious about pulling the 1TB drive before using the thumb drive to restore to the new RAID'd SSD's - the BurnRecovery could blow away that 1TB drive - with that lovely Recovery Partition on it - make sure you keep that safe and away from restore software.
Its that easy.
After I start configuring, and installing lots of stuff, I eventually create a full backup with Macrium Reflect, and it creates a restore USB drive that I have already used to restore 535GB of installed stuff backed up from my 4 x M600 RAID to a new 2 x EVO 850 RAID.
Keep the original SSD's and 1TB safe for future use, like if you ever need to return the laptop to MSI for repair - they like working on original configuration when debugging. They don't want to debug problems residing in 3rd party hardware.
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The return period is usually 7-14 days, and these GT80's are hard to find in stock so you will want to check with the retailer before returning to make sure they have another one to give you - call and when asking don't ask about a return - ask if they have one in stock and ask them to hold it for you until you come in. Then it will be there for you to swap.
If you already tried installing the latest driver from Nvidia, did a Custom/Clean Install of 355.60, and you are still seeing the driver crashes, it's likely the hardware.
Sorry to say, but there if the video cards are crashing the Nvidia driver at stock speeds, you don't want to try to fix it yourself.
Another consideration, if your retailer doesn't have a unit to swap you, you might consider RMA'ing to MSI to get it fixed. The old bird in the hand is better than waiting for another unit to ship to your retailer. I have seen people miss out on some laptop's because they returned theirs due to a fault and couldn't find another to purchase.
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using Nvidia drivers 353.62, and the gerforce experience element not installed, everything seems to be fine. Just played 20mins of The Witcher 3, everything on ultra, solid 60fps constantly, no crashes or driver restarts. It might also be because I put these 353.62 drivers on with the clean install option, whereas when I installed the 355.60's initially I did not do a clean install. Too many variables in play to determine exactly why its working OK now, but it is.
As for the phantom keypresses, uninstalling the steelseries software seems to have solved the problem. done a lot of test typing and its not come up again so far. (fingers crossed)
Only thing I did notice with the Witcher 3 is that if steam was downloading in the background, then the ingame performance went to total ****e (down to 40fps and stuttery). With my GT70-20D background downloading did not impact game performance at all. Not sure if this is related to the fact the GT80 is an SLI system, or maybe something to do with the killer networking suite? (which I did not have installed on my GT70-20D. Before running the Witcher I tried uninstalled the killer networking suite and just installing the drivers - but although the drivers showed as having installed fine, I could not connect to any wifi point (just got an error immediately saying cannot connect after entering the wifi password).
So far at least things seem good. Only on day 1 of my 14 days return policy from my supplier, so I've got plenty of time to test some more.Last edited: Aug 14, 2015hmscott likes this. -
As for the geforce drivers crashing, it has happened to me with older versions. I am not running the latest ones yet but a clean install does help with random things like that. As for the steel series keyboard, in your case you might need to update to the latest supported software. Mine came without it because it is an older model and I have no issues with they keyboard. When I installed the software, I could make macros and other things, but some FN+ combinations didn't work properly, so I uninstalled it. -
Did you reboot after uninstalling the Killer Suite and then reboot again after installing the drivers only?
I also uninstalled Dragon Game Center - I use hwinfo, cpu-z, gpu-z, and XTU, I don't need another monitoring tool.
I also uninstalled True Color, as with the Asus Splendid these tools try to do something good, but for me don't get there - ending up dimming the screen, muddying the color, and if you try to adjust it you only get a few presets and then you are left with a custom mode that doesn't help.
The GT80 the native panel looks great after removing TrueColor. It also runs fine at 100hz, or anywhere in between.
I am not using the keyboard, so I can't help with that issue, but in the brief time I did use it out of the box, the keyboard was pretty nice. I didn't have any dropped characters. It could be you aren't used to the throw of the keys yet, give it time.
Did you update the SSE when it notified you of the update? Mine did that until I updated...maybe you just needed to update?
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and yeah, I did the update to the steelseries SW, but it made no difference. Now its uninstalled it *seems* ok.
Got a fun weekend ahead of me installing and configuring, and of course game testing. So far I'm impressed with the power after I've hopefully sorted out the earlier niggles. Now fingers crossed it stays good, and nothing else crops up. it was bloody expensive so for me it has to be 100% worth it.hmscott likes this. -
I didn't do a Burn Recovery when I first loaded this laptop... whoops, but I'm pretty sure I can reset it by pressing F3 at the load screen and hopefully the burn recovery will come up, it'll be at least a week-week and a half before those drives make it over here anywayhmscott likes this. -
OK, so a quick update in case it helps others.
The phantom / ghosting keypress issue seems to have been solved by uninstalling the steelseries software.
Also think I've solved the problem of crappy game performance when downloading in the background (e.g steam downloading whilst you play a game). Uninstalled killer performance suite and installed drivers only. With the killer suite running & downloads in the background, Witcher 3 for example was a stuttering mess with low FPS. Within the killer suite removed Witcher is back to solid 60fpos and smooth, even with stuff downloading in the background. Now I remember why I uninstalled the killer suite on my GT70-20D.
So far it seems like the little issues I've encountered have been down to the very software that is meant to help!
The only remaining thing I notice is that the sound output (on board speakers and headphones) is quieter than with my GT70-20D. Its enough, but only just.hmscott likes this. -
I've been having some issues since trying to upgrade Killer Suite as well yesterday, going to uninstall it completely
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I ran latencymon when the same thing happened with my GT80 and previously w\my GT70 and it was the Killer driver suffering from the management sw. Without the network manager installed it runs perfectly and the CPU doesn't fumble 10-15% usage w\system interrupts.
I've never had any problems with the steelseries sw with either machine so maybe it's a Win 10 thing?
Interesting about the sound as the onboard and audio out is loud and clear (though I got a bad jack detection pin on my 009). Do you have the nahimic sw? In realtek audio is there a tab for the creative audigy or is that no longer a part of the MB? -
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My GT80's onboard speakers are louder & a touch crisper than the GT70 2PE I had before it so I was wondering if it might have something to do with Creative still having a chip on the board or not. Have you done any re-installs of the nahimic or realtek sw? One thing I can't do is install newer realtek audio drivers as no matter how I start it no program window opens even if the new icon is there in the taskbar. -
The Nahimic panel registers that headphones are connected, so thats OK. I think the onboard speakers are louder than my GT70-20D for sure, but the headphone volume output is definitely quieter. For gaming with my pair of sennheiser in-ear headphones I find that I have the windows volume control set at about 80-85%. On my GT70-20D its set at about 50% for the same volume output. Its not a problem, but I'm used to having more room on the volume if I need it (for example with higher impedance headphones). Its weird though as Windows sounds, and playing youtube videos etc is plenty loud enough, but game output is quiter (yes, I've checked the game specific volume sliders are up, they are).
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My headphones aren't nearly loud enough, either that or my ears are shot, I even did the volume boost in the Nahimic program... I just bought a mini amp thing which I've used before but I find it strange that the volume can't be louder on such an expensive laptop
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Just want to confirm for anyone that wasn't sure, or a little worried like I was, there IS a recovery partition that will completely restore your settings to total default/factory reset as if you just turned the computer on for the first time, by pressing F3 during startup and selecting the proper option. Making a burn recovery iso/etc is completely optional in this case, but recommended if you plan to remove/replace drives or think you might erase the recovery partition. I even upgraded to windows 10, and downgraded again, and was able to do a complete factory reset. (if in windows 10 it seems like you have to revert back to windows 8 before being able to do a factory reset, so I'm not sure how this will effect things once you are no longer allowed to roll back to windows 8)
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I have seen so many people come to forums, having lost the ability to restore their OS from their recovery partition - mostly because they immediately did a "clean install" of Windows - thinking it was going to be easy to find all the drivers and make it all work, only to find that wasn't the case.
And, I have even seen people with a RAID failure in the first 24 hours of owning the laptop. They planned on creating the USB recovery, but hadn't got around to it yet.
Of course you would need to send in the laptop to get the RAID drive(s) replaced anyway - getting the recovery partition recreated as part of the process - but in my case I would opt to restore to my own SSD RAID drives - saving the 1-2 weeks round trip to the service center.
Most (all?) manufacturers won't send you a copy of the recovery partition - you are required to send the whole computer in to get the OS restored.
It's funny, I ran across another glitch with the process this time, with the GT80. I was at the retailer, checking out the GT80 to make sure everything was acceptable before walking out, so I thought I would buy a new USB 3.0 drive to create the BurnRecovery USB right there - and it was good I did.
The GT80 BurnRecovery USB 3.0 drive needs to be bigger than the usual 8GB/16GB sized drive.
I bought a 16GB drive, plugged it in, and fired up BurnRecovery, only to have it say the drive was too small - it needs at least 19GB free to make the recovery partition...I returned the 16GB drive and bought a 32GB and 64GB USB 3.0 drive - I ended up using the 64GB drive as it was faster - it only took 16 minutes to create the recovery drive - I read that for some it took an hour.
If I had walked out with the GT80 and 16GB USB 3.0 drive I would have had a sad surprise, and a dilemma - wait till the next day to do all the upgrades - or chance doing it with a clean Windows install so I wouldn't need to wait.
It's easy for someone to paint themselves into a corner, and through over excitement get into trouble - instead of being prudent and waiting for all the right pieces to be in place.
Always make the BurnRecovery, or Backtracker, or whatever bootable recovery drive first thing after powering on
At least in that case, you escape all the pain of waiting for the turnaround of your laptop to get the OS restore, or even worse go through all the hours of wasted time trying to do your own install, only to find later that something you need - an app, a tool, a special configuration - is only available from the custom OEM Windows image made for your laptop.
In your case, you were lucky MSI thought this all through, and set things up to cover many of the pitfalls when someone does a clean install of the boot drive, or upgrades the OS. Creating the recovery partition on the 2nd drive is key to this success.
Good job MSI
If you had done the Windows 10 install on an Asus laptop, that recovery partition / restore process wouldn't work. It sounds like MSI has a better process that allows them to recover without a Windows install on the drive.
Also, after upgrading to another OS, for Asus at least, the Backtracker restore won't let you create a USB recovery drive from the recovery partition - the new OS doesn't match the recovery partition OS and the program bails.
Anyway, sorry for the long post, but when you said that creating the BurnRecovery USB 3.0 recovery drive is "Optional" I had to speak up. I hope this info saves others from the misery of finding themselves without a recovery method.
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I just bought this one, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005HJWWW8?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
Didn't want something too clunky having to plug in and hanging around along with everything else, also like that it can be plugged in through USB instead of having to use batteries or plug something else in to the wall -
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Just checked it out with suppliers here in NL. Comes with everything needed, and pretty cheap at 35 euro. OrderedLast edited: Aug 16, 2015 -
My GT80 froze quite dramatically twice in 2 days and I have no idea why and was hoping someone had similar experiences they could enlighten me with.
Was playing heroes of the storm each time which shouldnt be too intensive for the gt80. Gpu temps ingame always around 58 to 60C.
Usually get 2 bouts of one second fps lags and then a full freeze requiring forced power button shutdown. When it freezes, I hear a very loud rattling noise coming from the center of the GT80 (CPU?) That remains until powered down. Id almost describe it as a stuck old sata hdd or so noisewise, but the game or the os are on the ssd whih would make that unlikely.
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Wow... can't really believe this but for the past while I've been getting mouse lag, like the mouse stops completely (and the keyboard) and sometimes it just stays stuck. Oddly games/etc run fine it only happens in Windows usually when I just start the laptop it'll either start doing this crap or be fine for the rest of the day. This has happened both on Windows 8 and Windows 10 with drivers fully updated using that geforce experience tool. I'm going to try the drivers from the msi website instead this time
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Wow, I just wrote the same post, though this hasn't happened to me while in game and I've been playing quite a bit, maybe just by chance
It happens even while not doing anything really, just browsing a few websites
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Yea actually happened only since geforce driver up
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I have experience the freezing/stop lately too. Well, yesterday to be exact. I uninstalled a bunch of stuff and noticed that when I used HWmonitor or software like that, it started freezing/hiccuping, which is something that I didn't experience before.
I didn't think it was the new drivers but it might be. I uninstalled GeForce experience, finally uninstalled Killer Program and only used the drivers, and changed my antivirus from Avast to AVG. After doing all that, It seems my freezing/hiccups went away, but to be honest I haven't used my laptop much since then.
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It's not from heat or from stressful operations, at least in my case, so I'm pretty sure it's drivers, no issues so far after using drivers from msi website but we'll have to see over the next few days
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The latest Killer Suite, with a little configuration through the Killer app after install, is working out a lot better for me than the drivers only package download. Both for ethernet and for wifi, throughput is way up for both.
Version 1.1.55.1538 Windows 7, Windows 8.1 and Windows 10, Updated On Wednesday, 12 August 2015
http://www.killernetworking.com/support/driver-downloads/item/killer-suite
The configuration is easy, just turn off the bandwidth shaping, essentially. And, that actually works to disable it completely - I was skeptical but the throughput results are so much higher now, it was definitely worth taking the time to configure.
My ethernet is now 180Mbit/sec, up from 168Mbit/sec with drivers only. My Wifi went up even more, from 68Mbit/sec to 123Mbits/sec.
Ethernet
Wifi
Killer network app - network settings - uncheck Bandwidth control
Killer network app - wireless settings - click on Max Throughput button
You can also disable the Killer app systray app after making those settings, and forget about the app. It does have some other nice features, like the new Wifi Manager setting, which shows AP's/routers like inSSIDer - so you can make sure your AP/router is in the clear.Last edited: Aug 18, 2015 -
Hmmm I might give them a test drive. I noticed that the Killer software was acting up for me when downloading heavy stuff from Steam, and when playing League of Legends and Heroes of the Storm. In all of those cases, my performance tanked and was stuttery.
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Hey everyone, new to the forum. I recently got a gt80 sli 253. Anyway, I've been terrible problems with the wifi connection. Anytime I start to download a game, within 5 minutes my wifi status changes to limited connection. If I'm not downloading a game it will work for fine for about an hour and then it becomes limited connection and I have to reset my connection and sometimes even reboot my computer. I have uninstalled and update the killer wireless driver multiple times and I'm still experiencing the problem. I'm on windows 10.
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What router do you have and what other devices are on it?
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When the connection is limited can you connect to network devices such as printers?
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Especially without any tuning, at stock settings. So far at stock settings the 4xxx CPU scores are in the 13k range, and the 5xxxx processors in the 14k range.
By tuning the multipliers and swapping in a new vBIOS, the 4xxxx CPU versions reach into the 16k range and the 5xxxx processors were the first over 17k - but not without custom vbios and tuning.
My SLI-263 out of the box score was 14,248, and 15,911 after tuning, but the processor has been a pain to tune - won't reach above 41x without significant positive voltage offset, 70mV at 42x, causing power throttling taking away most of the benefits of the added clock speed.
What are your BIOS/EC/Firmware versions, shown in the BIOS System Information Panel. Here are the versions for my GT80 SLI-263 with 5950HQ processor:
Bios E1812IMS.10F
EC Version 1812EMS1 Ver 1.06
EC Build 05/08/2015
Microprocessor stepping 40671
Microcode revision d
GM204 board 84.04.48.00.29 (vbios)
Me fw version 9.1.26.1006
Would you please let us know what versions you have? If there is a new BIOS/EC/vbios that improves performance, we would love to know about it
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Next time I will double check...here is where we share scores:
MSI GT80 3dMark Scores, test and tune
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/msi-gt80-3dmark-scores-test-and-tune.773245/page-33
My best GPU score was 21345, physics 13681, combined 5972 - those are the little numbers...under the big number, 15911Last edited: Aug 18, 2015 -
What settings did you use in the Killer Suite with the Aug 12 update?
When I updated just now, I find that with the same old settings (though Game Mode wasn't an option before, but is now ticked by default), my download speed to GOG Galaxy has dropped from steady 1.3-1.4MB/s to 0.3-1.2MB/s fluctuating from just prior to updating to just after updating.
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Killer network app - network settings - uncheck Bandwidth control
Killer network app - wireless settings - click on Max Throughput buttonLast edited: Aug 19, 2015
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