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On the GT80 you can use the MSI Silent fan control to adjust your fan profiles, it's a pretty slick tool and easy to use.

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Thats a good option. Are you aware it is using an Intel 4th Gen CPU and there are new GT80 with 5th gen out. I am not sure about availability outside of the US though.

 

Don't seem to be available here in The Netherlands really. There is this model with the i7 4980HQ, but its 4699 euro, which is more than 1000 euro ontop of the model I'm considering, which is simply too much...

https://www.4launch.nl/shop/#p-4-productid-360957

 

Hey guys, I've been looking into getting the GT80 Titan SLI-263, but I have one question. What is the refresh rate of the panel?

 

Its a 60hz panel

 

Okay, thanks for the reply.

 

I just received this monster a few days ago and have come across my first (minor) problem.

I like the idea of the touch pad serving double duty as the number pad. It seems to work well in Windows. However, I have found that the numbers don't work well when gaming, if they work at all.

Anyone else having this issue?

I did install Win 7, but I don't think that's the problem here. It works fine in Windows. Any help will be appreciated.

 

SizeDrip, like the guys said, it's 60hz native, but OC's to 100hz stable - at least on my SLI-263 LCD - and vsync in games are mostly tracking that 100hz setting, running at 100fps. The 100hz setting is noticeably better.

105/120hz are both no go, power button reset required to recover...

After all that, I leave mine set at 60hz.

From hwinfo64 (4.65-2545)
Monitor Hardware ID: SDC4C48
Monitor Name: SAMSUNG [Unknown Model: SDC4C48]

Not a lot of info to be found on the SDC4C48, except it is listed as IPS LED a number of places.

To me it's a great screen, nice viewing angles. There is light bleed in the upper right corner for many, and mine has it too, but it has gotten better over the last 2 weeks, and isn't bothersome to me any longer - I guess I got used to it.

MSI has the color correction app, TrueColor installed, but I found it dimmed the screen and muddled the colors, so I uninstalled it - I prefer the native panel color balance.

Congrats on the new GT80 SLI-263, please come back and let us know how you like it.

 

As I keep my ears open to hear of any news for the new skylake i7-6830hk I did find a bit of info below that seems to all lead in the same direction which is to an unlocked mobile processor again but with a locked TDP. If this was the case what would be the point is my first thought, but hopefully when released it will allow us to extend items such as the allowed time to operate the boost clocks. If its priced like the MX series mobile extreme cpus it won't be worth it is my guess.
http://www.hitechreview.com/it-products/notebooks/intel-plans-unlocked-mobile-processors/51740/

 

Maybe it will have a higher tpd?

 

Perfect, many thanks for the checklist. All things going to plan I should place the order tomorrow. Delivery time is apparently 1-5 days with my local supplier.

 

It may even depend on the system manufacturer of course, it will be interesting to see how it works out.

 

Hi,

I have had a look around the web and I can't seem to find this utility. MSI Afterburner has the fan control option disabled for me... and I read that the MSI Command Center utility had the fan control abilities removed.

Any help appreciated...

Thanks.

 

Here is the link, it is directly from msi and will work as long as the SCM framework is running.
http://1drv.ms/1DLaw5u

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How long do you think it will be until the HK model comes out or an equivalent Skylake-HQ model comes out. My Razer Blade Pro 2013 seems to be having graphics card issues like the one in the link below:

http://www.tomsguide.com/answers/id...card-start-razer-blade-pro-2013.html#16446397

 

Also I know why everything looked blurry after upgrading to windows 10:
https://www.reddit.com/r/windows/comments/2i5rti/for_those_having_blurry_displays_in_windows_10/

 

I'm pretty sure I tried this, amongst other "fixes" and wasn't very satisfied... I'd like to get back on Windows 10 but not going to bother for now, wait till it's a bit more stable and privacy issues/etc are better sorted.

 

what's a typical cpu temperature while gaming and what should be the max cpu temp while gaming with this laptop?

 

Mine 009 runs usually around 82 +or- I have posted results in this thread of max temps from a weekend of gaming. Also realize I use CLU.

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don't know what CLU is

 

Cool laboratory liquid ultra thermal paste. Just don't want someone trying to replicate my results without having all the data. Between CLU and the silent option fan control my gt80 runs very cool and can run my weekend gaming sessions with only spikes into the low 80s and normally in the mid to high 70s. This may not be ideal for some but with a headset on the fan noise is no bother.


There is a gt80 3dmark test and tune thread that shows different setups and the result which might give a more in depth answer. Check it out.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/index.php?threads/773245/

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hmm, it's not on amazon prime is it really worth applying that thermal paste? I don't plan on overclocking or anything unless it's really necessary or adds noticible results, running the 5th gen cpu

 

No I am not recommending that you use it just stating what my temps and setup is. CLU is basically liquid metal so it's conducive and not recommended unless you understand the risk and reward. Does it make a noticeable difference, in all of my tests it did.

The stock paste does seem to test out very well and there is no immediate reason to switch from it if performing.

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Don't want to sound lame posting this, but how about these 'air extractors' http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00R2YUNUE?psc=1 ?

any use to them?

 

I just put in the gold keycaps, I don't really like them that much so far, for typing

and they seem to keep slowly popping out...

 

OK, so I'm having second thoughts on the GT80 2QE-032NL. I'm trying to decide between it and the GT72 2QE-1097NL

https://www.4launch.nl/shop/#p-4-productid-374403

At my local supplier the GT72 2QE-1097NL is 600 euro cheaper. The price itself is not the main issue though - I have a few questions / concerns:

- How loud are the fans on the GT80 under full load. Louder than my GT70-20D?
- And how loud is the noise from the cherry keyboard? This laptop would be used fulltime in the lounge. Don't want to piss off my wife!
- The keyboard location also has me a bit worried. I will have the laptop on a cooler stand, which in turn sits on a board that is approx 5cm high. With my GT70-20D this is not a problem as my wrist rests on the flat part of the laptop infront of the keyboard. However the GT80 does not have this part as the keyboard is right at the front.
- Are dual 980M's really needed to run the 1080p screen and have full details in most games now and for 1-2 years in the future, or will the single 980M in the GT72 2QE be sufficient? I don't need to run ultra everything all the time, but I also don't want to be running medium / low and missing out on detail & effects etc.
- I also have the feeling its easier and less hassle to run a single GPU system than a dual one.

Unfortunately I cannot wait for the 990's to hit the market as I need to get a new laptop now (my wife needs a laptop for her work urgently, so the plan is that she would have my GT70-20D). I want to make the right choice between the GT72 2QE and the GT80 2QE.

 

I've applied the CLU on CPU and GPU.

But no big difference with the Gelid.
The CPU go to 92°C with 3DMark or in game

What tips can you give me ? (decrease the CPU voltage ?)

Moreover, the fans are not full, they are silent.
I try to mod them with the MSI app Silent, but I think it is not compatible with W10.

 

Initial tuning for CPU/GPU settings is done, and I posted into the 3dmark thread:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...es-test-and-tune.773245/page-31#post-10065681

I thought I would share some other benchmarks, and how the performance has improved over the last 6 years, with 3dmark Vantage and 3dmark11

3dmark Vantage results CPU/GPU tuned stable
Stock BIOS E1812IMS.10F / vbios 84.04.48.00.29:

GT80 SLI-263 i7-5950HQ 2x980m CPU/GPU Tuned Settings
http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/5319314


It's fun to see how much performance has improved over the last 6 years.

My last 18" Dual GPU HD4870 laptop, the Asus W90vp-x1 best results from 2009
http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/846619


Asus G750JH GTX780m best results from 2013
http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/4881244


3dmark11 results CPU/GPU tuned stable
Stock BIOS E1812IMS.10F / vbios 84.04.48.00.29:

GT80 SLI-263 i7-5950HQ 2x980m CPU/GPU Tuned Settings
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10169847


G750JH-DB71 GTX780m Tuned Settings 2013
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/7577257

 

You have been busy, great testing and results.

 

gloops, you should be able to undervolt your CPU to bring down the CPU temp a bit, and improve performance while you are at it. Less power draw, less heat, longer / higher boost.

If you bump up your CPU multipliers, you will need to reduce the undervolt, and find that sweet spot at each multiplier setting.

For me at 40x, up from 38x/37x, I can undervolt -20mV, while at stock speeds I can undervolt -100mV.

If you don't want to play with tuning your CPU with XTU I wouldn't worry about it, 92c isn't bad, and likely is only reached briefly during benchmarking / game play.

You can run hwinfo64 - sensors only - and start a log of your sessions for all the values hwinfo64 reads - like CPU temperature. Then you can load the csv log file into Excel and look at the CPU temperature readings.

I have found that even if hwinfo64 shows a high temp reading for a session, looking at the log for all the temp readings over time shows that the high temp reading is reached only briefly.

Every CPU acts differently to undervolting. My 5950HQ at stock speeds will undervolt at -100mV, my previous G750JH would only do -40mV.

You can start at -100mV or -50mV, and run the builtin XTU benchmark to test stability - as a first test - always run against lots of other things once you think you have found the ideal negative voltage offset.

As part of this "finding the lowest voltage", you will crash. So make sure all your important work is saved and closed before starting. Also, if you use a RAID0, and have Intel RST set for Write Back cache - set it to no cache while tuning with XTU (and MSI Afterburner).

For me, the best performance on the 5950HQ is to set the cores to 40x with a -20mV undervolt, and set the cache to 36x with a 0.9mV undervolt.

Please let us know how it works out for you

 

chronoshift, it took me a couple of angles/tries to push them on til they clicked, then they stay on ok.

You can pull one off again and practice gently pressing it straight on with firm but slight pressure, working the angles, till it clicks on.

Then when you have the feel for it, pop off the others and re-install them.

 

Might need to clarity your post, so you are still hitting 92c with CLU on the CPU or that happened with Gelid only? What do you mean by W10?

I can usually run -55.66mv Dynamic CPU Core voltage at stock clocks with the best stability and performance. For the MSI Silent option fan control to work the SCM application/framework must be running on your machine and the profiles must be set to ramp the fans up if you wish for them to kick in earlier using the simple or advanced option. It verify its working just set it to max and you should notice a difference. You could do quick testing with XTU Stress testing.

 

GTVEVO, thanks, it has been fun.

 

chronoshift, they worked great for reducing temps a few degress on my Asus W90vp-x1 GPU's, but they were noisy and a bit fiddly to attach - you had to re-attach every time you took the laptop out of the backpack.

The GT80's already have a built-in fan boost, push the 2nd button to the left of the power button, and fan's go to 100%.

The cooling on the GT80 works fine even without the extra fan boost, I don't think it needs help from a clip on device.

Also, now that I think about it, the design of the GT80 puts 2 air vents in/out of each side - you might short circuit one by pulling air out of the other... could be a wash / negative effect.

If you do get them, please let us know how they work out

 

Thank you for your answers guys

- I will use the log of HWinfo64 to see when the drop occurs. Moreover, I'll decrease the CPU Dynamic voltage.
- W10 is for : Windows 10 => I've installed MSI Silent app, but I think it doesn't work on W10. I've increased the % of fan speed, but no difference (SCM works)
- I've tried different thermal paste : Arctic MX4, Gelid Extreme. The results are similar or higher (97°C)

 

Ok that connects, I don't believe the app is approved for W10 but you might be able to run it in compatibility mode possibly if you haven't tried this already.
You had no improvements with CLU? If you are not hearing your fans ramp up even without the silent option there may be other issues involved here with W10 affecting your machine or something else even. I would start some testing, under the normal fan profiles you be able to hear them around 70c-75c and ramp up at 80c and 85c significantly.

 

Yes, so I will test 3DMark with W8.1 because I've a dual boot.
If the temps are better, the issue come from W10

 

Another New Killer Performance Suite

Version 1.1.55.1538 Windows 7, Windows 8.1 and Windows 10, Updated On Wednesday, 12 August 2015

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...mance-suite-1-1-55-1534.779718/#post-10065814

 

Ok, so I just pulled the trigger on the GT80 2QE-032NL. Will pick it up from my supplier after work tomorrow

I actually think that is the most I've spent on any single item apart from my house lol!

Checking GPU comparisons its a LOT quicker than a single 980M, and in turn a heck of a lot quicker than my 780M GT70-20D (the single 980M is only about 30% faster than my GT70, so I did not consider that a worthwhile upgrade). This dual 980M setup should last for a good while running in 1080p.

Nice thing with my supplier is they have a 14 day returns policy for any reason, so I have plenty of time to run it alongside my GT70-20D, get everything installed and test it thoroughly.

Going to be a loooong day at work tomorrow.....

 

Same with W8.1 : CPU max temp : 96°C (with -40mV Dynamic Offset Voltage)

So, maybe the CLU doesn't touch very well the heatshink...

 

did you paint it on both sides? as in the CPU and heatsink?

 

Yes both sides like you said me.

I don't understand why the temps are so high...

 

Yes I agree, something is not transferring the heat, this could be that you have too little CLU (unlikley but possible if you tried to use too little, sounds crazy but it happened to my AW18 first try) or the heatsink is not seated correctly in which I tend to lean towards if you have seen the same issue with other thermal material. The last option is that something mechanical is wrong with the system. Its going to take some troubleshooting to resolve which is the difficult part to swallow. I would probably go back to using ICD thermal material and making sure everything is mounting correctly, then you can make a clear decision on your next move.

 

Exemple with Firestrike :



I'm going to put more CLU on CPU & GPUs, we will see the result.

 

I've put more CLU on the 3 chip, finally all the tube are on the 3 chips !!! Very expensive thermal paste !!! ^^

The result is good !!!

The fans are at 100% (with the fan boost)

CPU max : 89°C
GPU max : 78°C



What is your feedback ?

 

What is the ambient/room temp you are testing in? It does seem to be working better, a whole tube is hard to say (worries me a bit) because the brush will cause you to waste quite a bit sometimes so you may be right on point.

I just saw 29c which is like 85f on your room temp so you might be good. Thats a high room temp to test in.

 

Thank you GTVEVO

I agree, all the tube is a quite huge ! But I've put a little more CLU on the chip, and the tube is finish... The quantity in the tube is very small.

Now I will test CPU tuning with offset voltage

 

gloops, if those are your max temps while disippating 80Watts, that is insane and good. You are basically cooling a desktio 4770K there. I get on the 90s with 40-50watts tdp.

What are your ambient temps? I get to 92-96 when I am around 35-40 C ambient temps. Now I am using a more aggressive undervolt at -62.5 and so far I am stable. I ran up -75 and it worked for a day or two but a webpage crashed my system.

I might give CLU a try.

 

Yeah my little cooler gets up to 85-90 at 65W (With CLU) but it's quite a bit smaller heatsink

Those are nice temps.