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Maybe you should let MSI know about this issue?

 

You're welcome, enjoy the game.

Nahimic already knew about this issue, they said v1.2.2 fixed the issue. But, i haven't tried it.

 

I just bought this laptop, version SLI-263, are there any cooling accessories that could help cooling issues? I also live in a relatively warm climate which affects laptop heat throughout the day

 

I have mine on a U3 cooler and Im in subtropics with a 75 ambient inside and well outside can be 95++++F

Has just about everyone uninstalled norton?

 

I don't think the adoption of norton is too high, I would advise still going with an anti virus of course.

 

Malwarebytes does perfect jobs for me, and I am not running other software such as anti-virus.

 

MSI GT80 page has rolled out Windows 10 Drivers and utilities

 

Moar impressions about Windows 10 upgrade, please! Anyone facing driver conflicts? Does SLI works with Directx 12??? Thanks!

 

Can you please refer people to the website you are seeing this at. When i went to msi support the drivers were still for windows 8.1 and 7.

I downloaded windows 10 two days ago on my laptop. (MSI GT80 Titan SLI 001) I worked fine and everything is awsome at dx12 settings when you have undated the graphics driver..... yesterday after school my driver for the internet stopped. This was for cable and wireless. The Killer shot double pro driver had stopped working for some reason and on my internet i kept getting an error message saying cannot connet to DNS server, all my family laptops, desktops, video game systems, and tv's (At&t) were connecting just fine. It took me nearly 12 hours trying different things online to eliminate it down to the the drivers.

I moved back to windows 8.1 now (boooo) and dont have the DNS server problem anymore. My advice is do not rush on trying to get Windows 10 until all the drivers are available and supporting Windows 10. And also all the bugs and kinks are mostly fixed.

My view of Windows 10 is that its a flashier and more of a graphics/ gaming upgrade from Windows 7. Not something that will really wow you but can get some use to..... especially the new control panel layout but you can reference back to the old one easily by right clicking the start menu instead of left clicking.

Windows Edge is nice but i find its more for people that have touch screens and tablets so they can read the pages like a book and make personal notes easier than some one thats just at a laptop or desktop.

Cortana needs some work on because i asked here several questions like tell me a joke and she said hold on let me look that up on the web....... dont know if my cortana is just that dumb or if you have to mess with it everyday for it to get its groove instead of going straight to the web.

All in all its a good device but feels really familiar to windows 7 which is a good thing and its a graphics upgrade if you have a dx12 supporting video card.(our laptops do) Windows 10 uses dx12 for there system to run best but you do not need dx12 for windows 10 to run.

 

Can you please refer people to the website you are seeing this at. When i went to msi support the drivers were still for windows 8.1 and 7.

I downloaded windows 10 two days ago on my laptop. (MSI GT80 Titan SLI 001) I worked fine and everything is awsome at dx12 settings when you have undated the graphics driver..... yesterday after school my driver for the internet stopped. This was for cable and wireless. The Killer shot double pro driver had stopped working for some reason and on my internet i kept getting an error message saying cannot connet to DNS server, all my family laptops, desktops, video game systems, and tv's (At&t) were connecting just fine. It took me nearly 12 hours trying different things online to eliminate it down to the the drivers.

I moved back to windows 8.1 now (boooo) and dont have the DNS server problem anymore. My advice is do not rush on trying to get Windows 10 until all the drivers are available and supporting Windows 10. And also all the bugs and kinks are mostly fixed.

My view of Windows 10 is that its a flashier and more of a graphics/ gaming upgrade from Windows 7. Not something that will really wow you but can get some use to..... especially the new control panel layout but you can reference back to the old one easily by right clicking the start menu instead of left clicking.

Windows Edge is nice but i find its more for people that have touch screens and tablets so they can read the pages like a book and make personal notes easier than some one thats just at a laptop or desktop.

Cortana needs some work on because i asked here several questions like tell me a joke and she said hold on let me look that up on the web....... dont know if my cortana is just that dumb or if you have to mess with it everyday for it to get its groove instead of going straight to the web.

All in all its a good device but feels really familiar to windows 7 which is a good thing and its a graphics upgrade if you have a dx12 supporting video card.(our laptops do) Windows 10 uses dx12 for there system to run best but you do not need dx12 for windows 10 to run.

 

I got my Titan 263 back Thursday. Turns out the stick of gskill 2133 ram was bad. (I did not have a second stick to test it myself as my other stick was being sent back to them because they installed one stick of 1866 LOL). I was glad it was nothing major. Also applied a 100mV undervolt because that broadwell chip runs hot! With stock fan controls after running firestrike my cpu temp peak was 95C. After an undervolt it is 90C.

 

Caddyman, you had 1 stick of 2133mhz memory installed? Along with the stock memory? That won't work.

Before this gets too confusing, would you please mention the memory installed when you sent it, and how you have it configured now? From what you say I am jumping to a conclusion that might not be correct.

MSI didn't complain about 2133mhz memory? If so I will go ahead and swap in my 2133mhz g.skill 4x for the 3x 1600 stock memory.

When you are doing a memory upgrade, and run into a problem, always downgrade again to 1 stick of the original memory to make sure stability returns. Then try 1 stick of the new faster memory alone - with all the original memory removed.

If you are upgrading memory speed, you need to remove all original slower memory and install 1 stick of the newer faster memory at a time - boot and test, and then shutdown to add the next - install in paired sockets first as well. That is the safest, and least confusing route.

Glad to hear you got your GT80 back from MSI so quickly, what was the round trip time from your RMA request to the laptop returned to you?

 

Wess16, I am seeing the Windows 10 option for drivers on the US MSI support site:

http://us.msi.com/support/nb/GT80-Titan-SLI-GTX-980M-SLI-5.html#down-driver&Win10 64

 

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Meaker, except for a period where Norton was using too many resources, many years ago, I have always run a couple of PC's with Norton Internet Security, now Norton Security + Backup.

I don't have any problems with NIS or NS, and along with a bunch of other stuff I run, it has kept me from getting infected for many years.

I already converted the included 60 day trial of NIS to a paid license (already expiring in my Norton account) for Norton Security / Backup.

 

Guys, here are the results for a 4x RAID0 Micron M600 512GB M.2 SATA:







The performance seems closer to a 3x RAID0, rather than a 4x RAID0. It is nice to have 4x the storage; I was hoping for better 4x scaling for Write throughput as well.

With a G750JH 3x RAID0, 2x M.2 SATA + 2.5", I saw 1650/1500 for both an Ev0 850 512GB and Crucial MX200 512GB 3x RAID0

What are you getting for your 4x RAID0 configuration? What hardware are you using?

 

Hi everyone,
I purchased a GT80 Titan SLI 253 about 3 weeks ago and I love the unit so far. However I've noticed some things that I feel like should not be happening with a laptop of this caliber and I wanted to reach to some other owners with more technical experience to see if these are common problems.

1. The number/track pad, is the an easy fix to this? It worked for the first 15 minutes and the ceased to function.
2. There is an odd looking multi colored static when booting up the laptop some times.
3. This laptop takes an abnormally long time to boot up past my lock screen sometimes (like 1 1/2 minutes) but it's at random.
4. When playing certain games (DayZ) the computer will freeze and require a power down. It won't even allow Ctrl+Alt+Delete.

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

 

I would recommend to first test with no undervolt and do not raise the processor cache. In fact, you can lower it (I run it at 30 instead of 36) and there no performance hit, but I do save around 1 watt that can be used for the main cores.

I would advice as well not to use so high core clocks, try sticking to 40x in 4/3 cores. After running stock dynamic voltage and no offset, then slowly decrease mv voltage until you reach stable, then roll back a bit.

I use the intel cpu test, 3dmark, cinebench and a the page speedtest to test the CPU stability. When a setting passes all those without crashes, it tends to be stable with issues. If any of those crashes, it might be 99% but it will crash at some point.

I also noticed Defense Grid 2 is very sensible to any type of OC, despite being a very low load on the system.

 

I got the laptop from I Buy Power and it was fixed there. They order them from msi without drives and ram. They configured it just like a 263 model except with a dvd rw drive and you can mod from there. I upgraded back to a blu-ray rw drive. Got 16GB 8x2 of gskill 2133 ram instead of 24GB 8x3 1600 ram , and windows 8.1 pro. The drives are just like msi 1tb hard drive and 2 128gb sdd m.2 in raid 0. When I got it one stick was 2133 and the other 1866. After the ram was sent back the problem happened so I only had the one stick in it. Turn around time was 18 days including all the shipping time. They also straighten out the ram while it was there because they did not send the new stick yet (mine was still currently shipping there). I'll give Steven Wong a plug from I buy power too because he was very helpful.

 

is 3.4.2 steelseries a safe update?

 

Yup, they did.
http://www.msi.com/support/nb/GT80-2QE-Titan-SLI-5.html#down-driver&Win10 64

 

I'm noticing in world of tanks I'm getting better ping times with Killer control panel exited. I updated to the MSI listed killer driver and tuned my wifi to get out of crowded channel sets first.

 

? What hardware are you using?

Thanks Caddyman, almost there... so you had 2 different speeds of memory when delivered, and the GT80 was working fine.

You noticed the ram speed was different, and sent back the 1866, so you only had 1 stick of 2133mhz installed - and that is when the problems happened.

So, maybe the problem was with using 2133mhz memory, at least that stick, in your laptop.

What memory do you have now? 2 - 2133mhz, 2- 1866mhz, or?

 

ryzeki, that is where I was heading until I stopped to enjoy the laptop for a while

I took the Cores multipliers up, without touching cache, and only added mv to the Dynamic voltage, and around 150mv it became stable, but I wanted to install the SSD's so brought things back to stock to get a stable environment for testing the SSD's, and installing software. I also then tried the cache multi a bit with the cores at stock, but stopped there as well. That's when I realized someone else might have already reached stable settings, so posted that email

What settings are you using now?

I guess it's possible that the laptop power / cooling environment might not support full on XTU max settings for the 5950HQ... perhaps someone with the 2x power supply set up can try maxing out XTU on their CPU - to see if it is a power limitation.

There are some applications that do kick over XTU settings, but once you are stable on the most sensitive application, everything should work... at least that was experience on my last 4700HQ. But, then I haven't run Defense Grid 2

 

Fomortees, #2/#3 are common for Windows. #2 isn't happening on my GT80-263, but switching modes/resolutions can exhibit that behavior. As long as you can run games without issue, the GPU is likely fine. You do have the GPU switch lit, showing it's using the Nvidia GPU's?

Update: I finally got around to trying the Intel iGPU 6200 - used the GPH button to switch to Intel mode (light goes out), and asked to reboot to take effect, and then I saw maybe what you saw - jumbled colored squares as it rebooted. Was that what you saw? Switch back to Nvidia only GPU's using the GPH switch (next to power button) and get your SLI mojo back

#3 if it's at random, then maybe the last install you did caused the system to do something additional at startup. I disable Fast Startup, Super Fetch, and Prefetch - which can vary startup/shutdown times.

To disable Fast Startup, the easiest way is to turn off Hibernation. You get real shutdowns and boot ups after disabling.

In an Administrator CMD window: powercfg /h off

You will also gain back the hiberfil.sys space, the same as the amount of memory you have. In my case 32GB.

If you use hibernate, you can turn off just the Fast Startup function:
http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3152/~/disable-windows-8-fast-startup-(hibernate-file)

Disable the Superfetch service through services, and use regedit to set Prefetch to 0:
http://www.tekrevue.com/tip/disable-superfetch-prefetch-windows-8/

If you have 8GB or more of memory, and you don't push the edge of memory usage, I also disable the pagefile, through Advanced properties, gains more storage back on the SSD boot drive:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-performance-tweak,2911-4.html

#4, games/apps will do wild things sometimes, it is Windows after all

So far Company of Heroes was the scary one this time, on this GT80-263. After install, on first run, I went into Options=>Video, and tried to change resolution from stock (720p?) to 1920x1080 the screen went out and the app restarted and crashed... a bunch of times.

Then I started playing the old, what change from stock video options will it take ploy, and found a setting that would allow a change to be saved without crashing, and built out the configuration options from there, 1 change at a time, and then voila! I could change the resolution, and I now have all the video options set at Ultra/Max and CoH runs stable

You might try uninstalling the problematic game, to get back to stock settings, and run from defaults first to see if it is stable, at least at defaults, and then work up from there until it gets unstable, back off and work around the settings until you find a good combination - and what not to change/set, until it runs stable.

If you are otherwise stable, and run other games/apps without problems, I wouldn't worry about it just yet.

#1 might be accidentally disabling the trackpad with Fn+F3 ?

Please let us know how it goes

 

This is a lot like what I experienced at fry's

 

Is there any differences between the newer 255 version and the 094 version?

 

HI hmscott
Yes I had one stick of 1866 and one 2133 in slots 1 and 3 when I first got it and the titan was running fine. I found out by the ram part numbers in cpu-z. It probably just ran at the lower ram speed on both sticks. It ran fine on the one stick of 2133 for a couple days but one day it would crash in windows start up saying a file was missing or not even posting and only had fans and keyboard backlighting and did not turn on the monitor. Although one time it made it to the desktop. When I called I Buy Power to ask what they found they said the ram stick failed and replaced it. It is now running 2 8gb sticks of gskill 2133 in slots 1 and 3.

 

Thanks Caddyman, excellent, I am happy to hear you are running at 2133mhz

 

Bagelbytes, the CPU, upgraded from Haswell i7-4720HQ to Broadwell i7-5700HQ. Faster iGPU, lower power draw, 14nm vs 22nm die shrink.

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incynr8, yeah, the Killer stuff needs tuning... or uninstalling

Update: The hitches/hiccups I was getting streaming Hulu and Netflix stopped after installing just the drivers, no Killer app.

Look for the Standard Drivers (no Killer Features) drivers only version of the installer here, runs best for me with just the drivers too:

Killer Suite (supports Windows 10 now too)
http://www.killernetworking.com/support/driver-downloads

Standard Drivers (no Killer Features) (supports Windows 10 now too)
Installer uninstalls the Killer Features if present, requires reboot.
http://www.killernetworking.com/support/driver-downloads/category/other-downloads

Bluetooth Drivers for Killer Wireless-n 1202 , Killer Wireless-AC 1525, Killer Wireless-AC 1535.
http://www.killernetworking.com/support/driver-downloads/category/bluetooth-drivers

 

I've to repast one of my GPU because it overheating...

Physically, where are the GPU0 and GPU1 on the moterboard ?

 

Anyone have information on the i7 6820hk noted on the skylake mobile line up. That ending in HK makes me think, will they indeed release an unlocked mobile processor?

 

The master card is in the right corner when the notebook is facing you and the left one is the secondary slave card. I assume GPU0 is the one on the right.

What paste will you be using?

 

Killer networking suite rockets latency thru the roof and it has done this for some time now across various models among numerous manufacturers. I'm surprised they haven't fixed whatever it is that causes the entire machine to get bogged down in system interrupts (which I imagine is the attempt to prioritize cerain packets over others and bridging wifi with ethernet).

 

Intel wireless is offered by many resellers should I consider getting Intel instead of Bigfoot?

 

Thank you for your answer

I use Gelid GC-Extreme.

 

Last I checked Intel cards were $20-25 USD so I have considered it. Last week I updated the Killer stand-alone driver package and still had to uninstall it and then manually choose the unzipped driver in a folder thru DM to stop the latency frenzy.

The Killer Bigfoot cards work fine except when they don't and it's a known issue that seems to re-occur every time a new driver gets installed. I've never had that with Intel or previous Atheros cards before Qualcomm.

 

Is it faster than the Qualcomm? Is the signal strength better? I have a 1202 in my current laptop and I get random lag spikes

 

mason2smart, in general, no - the 7260 series has way worse drivers and user feedback, years worth in fact - check the Intel support forums.

The Killer 1202 was very stable without the Killer app/systray app and by uninstalling the Suite and installing the drivers without the Killer app feature it ran great.

In the GT80-263 I am just now using the 1525 for the first time, but so far it is working well. The 1535 has come out recently, not sure if that is better / fixes problems found in the 1525, but if you want to upgrade/change I would research that part over any Intel part.

Killer™ Wireless-AC 1535
http://www.killernetworking.com/products/wireless-ac-1535

If you are having issues after installing the latest Windows Suite drivers for Wifi and Bluetooth, and have already updated your router firmware, I would look at debugging / upgrading your router, modem, service first before swapping the internal Wifi card.

 

I'm ok with the killer app closed so far. But I do have a modern router.

 

My own personal experience has been fine with both but I think with either it does depend on the router.

 

1 day until skylake is announced at gamescom

 

Finally got a chance to test out the battery issue again. Still same problem, the battery percentage decreases under heavy load despite it being plugged in and saying "charging". I will contact MSI about this to ask if they can replicate it. The game in question is GTA 5.

 

Hi guys

After respasting my CPU and GPU, I've always overheating... (CPU : 92°C, GPU : 72°C & 92°C !!!!)

So I'm going to repast with Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra.

Have you any tips for application ?

My previous repast, I've applied a thin layer of paste. But it's maybe not enough...

 

As you know Its not the typical paste as its liquid metal which means conductive so be very careful. Things that I make a point to be sure I always have correct when using are below. Be-aware in reality it can be scary to use but if you have applied an application before and it looked better than stock you can do this just take your time through the process and be meticulous.

1. Ensure all surfaces are clean.
2. Ensure you can fit the heatsinks back together fluidly with equal pressure across all mounting points, you don't want to be moving them around when mounting as you can move the paste off the edges if you aren't careful.
3. Its critical that you measure where your application should go on your heatsink, since you need to paint a thin layer on the cpu die and heatsink both this helps to be sure you are you applying the thermal liquid ONLY where it will be making contact with the die. I used a set of calipers and previous paste material markings to accurately measure and sketch lines. If you do not apply on both cpu and heatsink your results will not be as good in my experience.
4. For extra security you can use non conductive tape (good electrical tape) if you have any possible conductive paths around the CPU board (not on the die or touching it). The GT80 has this tape around the edge of the CPU already but I used some additional in the corners where the cpu exposed some copper towards the left upper and lower edge on the 4980hq.
5. Use the brush softly and it will cause you to waste quite a bit of CLU so pay attention to your use.

Once you get it right you won't need to repaste again. Get it wrong and you will need more than a repaste so use with care. I hope this helps somewhat, good luck but you are responsible for your own actions. <-- just covering myself

 

Thank you for your quick reply GTVEVO

I will use your advices and I will post new benchmark after application.
For applying CLU on the heatsink, how I can know how to apply it ? All over the heatsink ?

I hope the result will be present

 

No problem, but do not apply just all over the heatsink, please read #3

3. Its critical that you measure where your application should go on your heatsink, since you need to paint a thin layer on the cpu die and heatsink both this helps to be sure you are you applying the thermal liquid ONLY where it will be making contact with the die. I used a set of calipers and previous paste material markings to accurately measure and sketch lines. If you do not apply on both cpu and heatsink your results will not be as good in my experience.

Note when you apply the CLU acts like mercury or solder so it will not want to stick until you start painting or dragging it across the die or copper on the heatsink. You can see how it acts in the CLU video.
http://www.coollaboratory.com/en/products/liquid-ultra/

 

Oh yes, sorry.
It's not easy, but the result will be interesting.

Thank you again EVO