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    ***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Jan 13, 2015.

  1. street_lyte

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    Can anyone help me with this? Not going to have a lot of time with the lappy when I get it and I wanna have a battle plan laid out as soon as I unbox it to test everything out.
     
  2. Thrawn

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    I would recommend doing the following:
    1. Go through all the "Windows Setup" prompts for getting your account setup.
    2. Run Windows Update to make sure MS doesn't have anything you need.
    3. Check NVidia to make sure your drivers are current and that SLI is in fact enabled.
    4. Download and install CPUID or Open Hardware Monitor to track clock speed and temps of CPU and GPU's.
    5. Download and install 3DMark and run the Firestrike test. Upon completion, review the score and make sure that the highest temps on the CPU and GPU aren't beyond expectations.
    6. Install a drive speed utility and make sure that the SSD raid is performing at the speeds that one would expect.
    7. Put a DVD/BluRay in the drive and make sure it plays.
    8. Make sure the numpad works, and that the different GPU modes from the button and the fan over ride button produce the desired results.
    9. (And Most Important) Install your favorite game and check the performance. Run the monitoring utilities and make sure that thermals are within expected tolerances.

    For temps, scores or any other information that is a result of your tests, feel free to post them here and the community can weigh in if something is out of wack.

    I hope this helps, and guys chime in if I missed anything.
     
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  3. porky133

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    8.5 Make the backups after all updates completed.
     
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    I don't mind the extra weight--my parents seem to have their own ideas though :(...
    Was looking at the Aorus but it seems to heat up much more than the gt80 and have build quality issues similar to my blade pro...


    If the blue ray player in the gt80 has defects wouldn't it make more sense to have a reseller put in a different one?
     
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    It's just checking the hardware as you would any optical drive. He is not suggesting it is worse than others.
     
  6. Thrawn

    Thrawn Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks for the feedback Striker. I'm going to talk with Ken at GenTech tomorrow and probably go 263. That article from AnAndTech was good stuff, I appreciate the difference in their reporting. Those guys do good work.

    I actually enjoyed GenTechs YouTube video on the Titan as well. I would guess with Broadwell those thermals might be lower now. I had a 4980hq in a MacbookPro that hit 97c every time flash played, so the old thermals on the Titan were tame to me lol.
     
  7. street_lyte

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    Thanks for that well-structured and well thought-out response, Thrawn, that was very helpful.

    Speaking of the Macbook Pro, I use a 2010 i7 iMac for my recording rig and have always appreciated how quiet it is, since the whole unit is basically just one giant heatsink. But recently I used my bosses Macbook Pro to set up a wifi range extender and was SHOCKED at how loud and hot that thing got... Easily the hottest laptop I've ever felt. I always knew they were overpriced like crazy, but I never thought they'd be loud and hot too... Goes completely against the "slim and sleek" style that Apple tries to portray.
     
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    It's usually form over function with apple, the fanless macbooks throttle to around 1ghz when used properly.
     
  9. GenTechPC

    GenTechPC Company Representative

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    Here is the comparison test of GT80 Titan SKU-263 with i7-5950HQ with and without IC Diamond:

    Stock paste:
    MSI-GT80-FireStrike-Broadwell-5950HQ.JPG


    With ICD:

    MSI-GT80-FireStrike-Broadwell-5950HQ-IC-Diamond.JPG
     
  10. Joseph21

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    I've got the GT80 Titan, but only with one GTX 980m, does anyone here know how easy it is to upgrade to the SLI configuration?

    Is it as simple as buying another GTX 980m and connecting it? Thanks
     
  11. majster msi

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    You need to swap power adapter 330W, find heat sink for gpu on the right side of notebook , sli cable and of course you need vga card.

    Wysłane z mojego SM-G925F przy użyciu Tapatalka
     
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    tis sad, with broadwell comes out haswell equiped laptop becomes a dead end, not even sure if they would put skylake in this thing or just discontinued it all together.
     
  14. Kevin@GenTechPC

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    Unfortunately (or fortunately), there will always be new stuff, it's amazing that new stuff comes out quick, which also means it will become old soon.
     
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    Technology moves ahead at a very fast rate.

    One of the reasons I purchased the GT80-263 was for the purpose of not needing to upgrade my machine for the next 3-5 years and if my GT80 still holds it own, I will consider upgrading the graphic cards around Year 2-3, and by Year 5-6 upgrade to the best possible machine MSI has to offer to the public, because I was not disappointed by their service and product.

    I never saw the need to be a tech zombie and upgrade every months or so just to be ahead of the curve. yet again for another few months. Might as well be an inventor or work my way into the tech review club but yet again someone else will make something better/faster.

    In the end, the only thing I see as important is being well informed and when the time comes to pull that trigger for a new machine. BAM!! :D
     
  16. Kevin@GenTechPC

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    Yup! Basically, the speed we're seeing from tech manufacturers nowadays is a minor refresh every 2-quarter, and major refresh every 4-quarter. Plus, computer games evolve quick as well, so a system can be outdated within 2 years and then you will have to switch because the GPU is actually the first to suffer. Otherwise, a basic NB allows us to work on the rest of things without the need to update. :)
     
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    been waiting for pcie nvme raid 0, dmi 3.0, skylake cpu with TSX forever now.. hence no purchase yet for me. maybe this will have a skylake refresh along with new GPU by next year.
     
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    Cool test and appreciated but I am not understanding how your temps are lower with ICD and so is your score. The score should be much closer to your control or higher if the lower temps with ICD did help. I am at a loss to see them both lower so it kind of becomes a null point incase throttling or gpu power management came into play. Maybe you can explain better if possible.



    Sent from my SM-G925T using Tapatalk
     
  19. street_lyte

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    Here's my two nickels on the issue of consumerism and the constant evolution of technology as it relates to the gaming PC -

    Everytime you build or buy a great PC it's like you are planting a flag down in time. In front of that flag, forward in time, that PCs power to play the latest and greatest at the highest settings will inevitably fade, but so many people seem to neglect or under-appreciate what comes BEFORE that flag; every single game that's ever existed up to that point. We are all able to play and max out literally thousands of great games, vs the slow trickle of new ones..

    My fav single player FPS is Far Cry 1, fav multiFPS is Project Reality, a BF2 MOD, my fav action game is prob RE 4. All these games came out in '04-'05, and I still love playing them. And look at all the games with great mod support out there, keeping games fresh and interesting even decades after the original release. Next week when my gt80 arrives, I will be able to play my entire 100+game Steam library at resolutions and framerates I have never come close to before, and that isn't ever going to change because a better GPU came out.

    I wanted so hard to wait for Skylake, USB 3.1, G-sync, NVME, 1440p or better panels, etc. for my new gaming laptop, I really did. But its more important for me to have a great laptop NOW than it is in 3-12 months from now.

    Technology changing and getting better every few months is a GOOD thing. The downside to that though is that it can sometimes lead to us focusing more on what our tech CANT do vs what it CAN. And we all know, the gt80 can do A LOT. Obviously we're all serious gamers with a taste for serious tech, just don't forget that its impossible to always have the latest and greatest, as much as we want it. Its been said before but it bears repeating; learn to be happy with what you have. Just because something faster came out does not mean what you have got slower.
     
  20. ryzeki

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    The Gt80 is an amazing machine right now. Tech will improve and so will design, but there is no denying of the power the GT80 currently has, and it will continue to yield excellent performance in years to come. People are still playing with great performance, with processors that are weaker than the Intel 4720HQ. you can be sure you won't be suffering in the coming years because of the CPU. Sure, others will push higher fps, but you can still get those 60fps easily :)
     
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  21. Kevin@GenTechPC

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    Loved what you wrote, and it is exactly the same mentality I have as well. :)
     
  22. OJohn

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    Hello GT 80 Owners.

    This is my first post in any forum, ever. :) I figure this is probably a good place to start.

    When I started looking for a laptop to replace my old one after "the Monster spill" just over a month ago, I decided to get a decent gaming rig. That old Dell Inspiron was fine for work, but it was already old and it was barely getting 45 FPS on a Unity game, BSGO. Anytime action got thick with PVP, I was barely getting 15-20 FPS. I had to keep a cooler pad under it to keep it from thermal throttling and shutting off. It was never intended for games.

    I read this entire thread over the course of about two-three weeks. You guys are pretty awesome. And you are enthusiastic about your machines. I had to have one. Before I finished the thread, I was certain that I would get an 009. Then, suddenly, there was talk about the 263. I looked at the calendar and realized that the refresh was coming out that day. It was a Saturday. I remember thinking, "Wow, that was fast."

    So, I wanted to know if the new machine was vastly superior. From all I read, there was some modest improvement in efficiency that might make the battery last a bit longer, but the additional power in the CPU was still governed by the same TDP, so... I jumped anyway. I figure, one day this too will be a brick like my old Dell. Today, It is the Bleeding Edge of the Spear!

    I had to type a few lines just because this Key Board demands to be used. I love this thing. Unboxed it about 5 hours ago... On BSGO, I waded into the battle at a mind bending 198 FPS - on Ultra settings. I am downloading my steam library as we speak.

    Ken and the guys at GenTech told me they could get it here before the Holiday Weekend. They came through like champs. I am not going to get any sleep!

    As for waiting for Skylake, G-Synch, or next gen anything? I think I waited long enough. I have noobs to crush. A sugary energy drink is the worst thing that could have happened to them.
     
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  23. majster msi

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    Did anyone notice that on msi website soudblaster cinema 2 has been replaced by nahimic ? There are new audio drivers compatible with nahimic , however without soundblaster suport :(.
    After some tests:
    I don`t wont to go back to soudblaster . Now I hear some base !
     
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  24. Thrawn

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    I'm not sure about "vastly superior" in regards to the Broadwell chips. The new 263 has a 5950HQ cpu, which is basically the Broadwell version of the 4980HQ Haswell chip. It does seem to be efficient in computing power, but the two significant differences appear to be that it may throttle less based on less heat generated, and it has a very good integrated GPU. However, Titan owners are not likely to care about things like iGPU or battery when they are running a SLI 980m rig that's designed to crush polygons. That audience is more interested in pushing performance as opposed to sipping batteries.

    Overall, its a sensible upgrade but I wouldn't say anything like vastly superior. All of the Titan's produced are madhouse systems that anyone would be proud to own.
     
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    Welcome to the owners thread! You essentially nailed it, indeed intel have all their CPUs governed with TDP. Broadwell is more efficient so it can maintain its power turbo for longer, and the TDP regulated speed should be overall higher (I hope :D) but other than that, I'd say haswell and broadwell are two very powerful CPU architectures still, and for the foreseeable future.

    I noticed it and I had downloaded it a while ago but hadn't tested it. I did, however, noticed I had bass now, and overall sound was vastly louder. I never thought it was caused by nahimic!
     
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    Yes they devided to switch software sound processing, good to hear it was a good decision :)
     
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    Hey guys. So, after not finding the Windows 10 reservation option on my new GT80, I contacted Microsoft to find out why this was happening. Turns out I have Windows 8.1 Single Language Edition, which does not qualify for a Windows 10 upgrade! I first have to pay $119 to upgrade to a real version of Windows 8. When I bought this computer, I was guaranteed a free Windows 10 upgrade and have the paperwork to prove it. It’s going to be a very interesting time if this is a mistake on MSI/Microsoft’s side! Anyone else have the same problem?
     
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    Very surprising since I have the open down in my tray reminding me every day "Get Windows 10", I would probably contact the selling vendor or MSI after registration and see whats going on.
     
  29. dip0

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    I am hoping someone can enlighten me if the Realtek Driver update (Jun 2015) from the MSI drivers page is working properly for me or whether there is a problem.

    Basically, I was having no issues with the factory drivers and Soundblaster Cinema 2, but decided to update all my drivers the other day.

    However, I notice now that in the Device Manager, the driver is listed as a Microsoft one from 2013. The device itself is still called Realtek however (and I verified that if I uninstall the Realtek driver, the device name changes, though driver remains the same)

    Is this normal or do I have a problem with the drivers?
    I sent MSI a ticket but they claim that I am installing the drivers incorrectly and after much to and fro are telling me to restore my machine to factory settings and then try to update drivers again, but I wanted to ask here whether there is even a need for this!

    The only thing I noticed that is different since the update is that in some apps, sound seems a bit delayed in playing.

    Thanks
     
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    On a related driver issues note, is the Intel Update Manager (both the preinstalled one and the one from Intel website) useless or is it just me? It never finds any driver updates, but MSI drivers website keeps getting new Intel drivers, as does Microsoft Update.

    Lastly, I find that my CPU has a tendency to overheat a lot with even semi-new games such as Attila Total War or Witcher 3 after short periods of play, with the temperature going into the mid 80s, which worries me quite a bit and forces me to play with Turbo Fan on at all times (which manages to keep Temps in the 60s)
     
  31. Wess16

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    Wise words my friend.

    Welcome to the forum.
     
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    Hi! I decided to install the new drivers as well.
    I see what you mean. But when I run "dxdiag", the drivers for realtek are listed as 6.00.0001.7503

    Try running "dxdiag" and check Sound 1 and Sound 2 and if the new 2015 drivers are installed you shouldn't worry

    And in Device Manager I see 2013 drivers. Which is weird because control panel also has the new drivers installed.

    I believe dxdiag has it right, compared to device manager

    and I do hear some added base compared to the previous drivers.
     
  33. grinna

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    I have an AOC monitor with HDMI output, there is the possibility to enable nvidia surround with 2 monitors and how can I do
     
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    Hi grinna

    I think you need to use the Mini display ports to enable nVidia Surround.
     
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    Using an HDMI-Displayport adapter will it work?
     
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    The HDMI should be fine, have you got the highlighted menu option?

    [​IMG]
     
  37. Thrawn

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    Just ordered my Titan 263, landing on Thursday of this week. Looking forward to unleashing the benchmarks, and then installing Witcher 3 on Ultra and demanding the game bow before me. Its a good Monday :D
     
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    Right On!

    When I ordered mines from ExCaliberPC. I paid $150 for Express Processing and Saturday Overnight Shipping. I was not disappointed when I received it, inserted my SSD and played Tomb Raider.
     
  39. Thrawn

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    I've never seen one in person, but I've watched like 900 YouTube videos at this point and I'm going for the gusto. Phase 2 will be imaging the boot drive, pulling the 128 gig ssds and putting in four 240 or 480 drives in Raid 0 to see how that 1600megs per second is. I'll give it a month to have fun first lol.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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    But the option is not enabled see in the picture

    [​IMG]
     
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    Just wanted to show my weekend (7/4 Holiday) of gaming activity results and how well the GT80 can manage temps compared to just benchmarks for anyone that is interested. I returned from vacation last week feeling the need for some late night gaming to kick off my holiday weekend. My system has been up for 4 days and 8 hours so it was close to midnight Thurs night/Friday morning US CST time zone since my last reboot. Below will show my results since being powered up and I have not reset my hardware monitor numbers at any time. In result I played couple hours of GTA4 & several hours of Project Cars and a few other games in shorter time with a max CPU temp of 83c and GPU temp of 73c when clocked at stock speeds with Vsync on. I really feel this result is key and show the long term cooling abilities of the GT80 which makes me very happy. The only thing that I use that could provide different results would be CLU on both CPU and GPUs with a -55mv Dynamic CPU voltage offset with my room starting temp around 71-72 deg f.

    And the MSI Silent Option software form 30% to 125%


    GT80-009_Holiday_GamingResults.JPG
     
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    Those are solid temps, thanks for the info. I have Metro Last Light but still haven't played it (was in your Steam library). Looking forward to having a system that can really handle that one turned up. How is The Crew?
     
  43. mason2smart

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    Is clu better than ic diamond?
     
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    Metro is a fun game especially because you can pick it up cheap. The Crew is fun but more arcade style and can seem slow moving at times but still a great one to get cheap if you can. The Crew will push physics of your system for sure.

    Yes, CLU is conductive and has much better heat transfer properties mainly because its an 100% metal paste but is safe to use if you have experience with it and applied correctly. ICD is a great paste and very safe as it cools well and is not conductive unlike CLU reason why its one recommended in most cases. What the paste allows to happen is for the heat to be pulled way from the die and through the cooling solution faster so it helps to manage the demanding times that can occur.
     
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    Would it be safe to have a company like gentech or xotic apply clu instead of ic diamond?
     
  46. GTVEVO

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    It never hurts to ask but they may not feel comfortable because they would not want to feel responsible of a failure which I can understand because its metal its highly conductive. As for myself I am a pretty picky person so I would only trust myself to perform the task that way I know its done completely accurate with no flow over which takes considerable time and measurements with the application.
     
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    So basically it could short the gpu/cpu. Does it need re-application after a while?
     
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    Right if not applied correctly it could cause a short, it does not need re-applied in my experience.
     
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    Hey Evo, I was curious about the use use of the Prima bios (or others) over the stock bios. I know that typically Afterburner gives you +135mhz on the core clock max. Is it that the other bios lets you go further on the GPU OC? I noticed that you're over 135 on most of your scores and wasn't sure how you got there.
     
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    Sure, I did use the prema bios for those benchmark runs. It runs very well as the power regulation has been removed from it so even stock clocks perform better, on the flip side as we all know more power generates more heat so I don't use it all the time. The temps posted above are with the stock bios.

    When overclocking you will start having issues of instability when the power brick starts pulling 370+ watts

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