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Those are very nice results. I will try overclocking the GPU to the max and see how I can compare. With +100 core and +100 memory, I have around 19200 graphics score, and my CPU only musters around 9680 physics score, so I can't compete vs the 4980HQ in that regard hehe.

 

UNLOCKED !!!
However I can`t share with you how to .

 

NICE and Great Achievement! Have you had time to verify that the bios unlock will affect the CPU? Can't want to hear testing affects and results.

 

I have to study a little how to use some options , for now I am able to overclock memory . I need to find out how to setup bios to override 47W power limit.

 

GTEVO you have the 009 correct?
If so your scores would make alot of since. I did some tweeking and this is what i came up with for the 001 only with CPU modifications done. This results shows the 2 types of CPU's are really not that big of differents and im sure with more modding i can get that temp down as well.

 

Usually the 001 scores around 13000 at stock clocks and the 009 scores around 13700 at stock clocks so it's around 5 pct difference at 700 points with the firestrike test. Can't see your temps in the pic.

Yes I have the 009 to confirm.

Revised after looking at my tests ran with the 001 model

 

Best of luck with tweaking! Removing the TDP limit will surely improve performance of these beasts!

 

LOL, and he says, "I can't share with you how", LOL!

@GTVEVO:

His max temp was 92C.

 

How did you apply clu to CPU without removing GPU heatsinks and how did you do your application

 

I had to remove the GPU heatsinks, there isn't any other way since the CPU pipes and are pushed into the rear of the frames exhaust ports and behind the gpu exhaust pipes. The only way to remove the CPU heatsink is the remove the complete GPU assembly first. I placed pics to give you a better visual idea.

As for the application of CLU, I only used it on the CPU after testing a couple other popular thermal pastes. CLU is not that hard to apply you just have to take your time and be precise because you only want to apply it where needed. I applied CLU to the manufacture regulations along with my previous experiences and that I learned from the great Mr. Fox in the alienware section. The application was measured, cleaned then painted on by spreading it from the middle outward with the supplied brush on both the CPU and CPU heatsink. When applying you can't over use or under use the application so trying to get it a thin as possible won't work and will result is a bad application and bad heat transfer so keep this in mind.

The main parts.
To gather the exact location needed on the CPU Heatsink side I used clean thermal material painted (not the dot or pea method) on very lightly to give a clear visible impression only, once this was done I knew where to apply the media. After cleaning again and prepping for my final application I did cover up the open circuit pathways on the edge of the CPU with high temp electrical tape. You can see these on the right edge (top and bottom) of the CPU in the image named 4980_CPU_GT80, this tape can be purchased at hardware stores and is the same tape that is on the outside of the CPU as seen in the same pic. I did this for safety as we all know CLU is conductive and I didn't want to take any risk even though I was sure of my measurements so I would recommend anyone else do the same. Once applied put everything back together and test.

If your application is bad try again, CLU is very easy to clean with alcohol just be sure you get every last spec and in many cases if you use CLU twice the results are usually better because it is so good and filling the micro pits in on the heatsink side and provide a great surface area to transfer the heat.

Hopefully this helps some of you.

 

Lower clock and higher scores! The power throttle is really messing up that benchmark.

Not big? Wow! Considering your results as the baseline and comparing it to the last GTVEVO numbers we have 19% higher Fire Strike physics score. That's really big!!!

 

Just curious with all this new data do you recommend getting the slower CPU or the faster CPU on the GT80 Titan?

 

You can't go wrong if the model suits your needs because they are both powerful cpus. Being honest I don't have any games that I currently play that would not run wide open on either CPU at 60fps. This data is not posted to shy anyone away from the 4720 or degrade it's capability because it has more than enough power to supply the 980m cards and is no way a budget machine.
But with any product several versions are produced to interest the needs of different customers. For me I went for the 4980 because before my AW18 contained the 4930mx and I was severely dissapointed with the cost/performance ratio and most of this was purely due to the AW Bios and heat. Don't get me wrong others have had a great deal of success with it. For me there was so much messing about that had to be done to get any results due to the issues. Maybe I felt that I had unfinished business, anyways the 009 it was available so I went for it. The 4980 is a similar match to the 4930mx but not the extreme unlocked brand yet almost half the price which seems to preform better in my testing so I am very happy with my choice. With my testing I just got carried away.

 

Are you running your tests with cooler boost to obtain those temps? Or just CLU doing its job?

 

I did not run cooler boost on any of my testing runs it's just CLU that is the only difference.

 

What'd you find to be the best performing and stable settings and clocks I'd like to try and duplicate your results and eventually apply clu

 

Stock drivers and vbios
CPU at 4.3ghz x 4,3,2,1 with -20mv offset in XTU or CPU at 4.2ghz x 4,3,2,1 at -30mv offset in XTU
GPU at +25mv power , +135mhz cores , +550 to +600 mhz memory. Nothing over +600 will be stable and stability gets questionable between +550 and +600

Hopefully this gives you a starting point but you shouldn't have any problem getting to 15000+ firestrike score if you can keep your temps in check.

 

With icd I can't get those temps heh!

 

You should be able too, but without it there could be some challanges but still probably possible.

 

I only have CLU on the cpu, the GPUS have Antec 7 on them.

 

Are you GPU clocks fluctuating slightly with firestrike? I'm using newest drivers thinking of rolling back to original or the most recent with OC enabled

 

No my clocks are stable.

 

Interesting I'll try some other drivers

 

What are you using to increase the GPU voltage?

 

Nvidia Inspector for GPU clocking

 

Does that need to run in background aswell?

 

No but clocks will reset to default if the driver crashes or if the system reboots. Feel free to pm me if needed so we don't little the thread up too much.

 

You may run into power throttle in heavy gaming increasing the voltage under the stock vbios. It will depend on the quality of your chip.

 

Started trying a bit of overclocking with the GPUs. Got a nice firestrike score finally broke 10k CPU score haha

 

Hi,

First let me thank all of you for all the helpful info, it helped me narrow down my next laptop to the GT72 or the GT80.

I since the review have mixed opinions, any of you that own the GT80 are you happy with your decision? Or if you had the GT72 before and can say that the GT80 is a big step up or that he can recommend it over the GT72?

I don't mind the size/weight as i currently use the AW m18x so I am used to it (0.7kg is not such a big difference anyway).

P.S

Few ppl asked about the 4980hq availability, it is from my understanding from MSI rep, that it will not be offered anymore since Intel stop producing it and the only choice you have is to find a dealer with stock (can't do that here since it's only available by preorder) or wait till around october when the new gen of processors is available.

 

Hello! Personally, I am more than happy with my decision. Both GT72 and GT80 are amazing machines, and really have been happy with performance, looks, build quality, everything. It feels nice to have such a powerful performer with you on the go, because no game feels impossible to run

Also, you can't go wrong with either, as MSI has at least officially declared support for GT80 GPU upgrades for two generations, so this will last a while

The only negative is not really MSI's fault but intel's, with the choice of CPU being soldered, but honestly, even the 4720HQ is quite a powerful CPU for gaming. If you can get a 4980HQ there is hope that with tweaking, you can unleash considerable more performance if you need it for other programs

Got with GT72 if you'd rather avoid SLI and maybe save a few bucks, or go with the titan if you want the best gaming performance

 

Tnx for your reply, sadly the 4980HQ is not available anymore here, and i dont want to import it from another country as the import taxes here are quite high.
I will most probably go with the GT80, but sadly, there is 3-4 weeks waiting time ........

 

I've managed to break 15k on firestrike with 4.0 all 4 cores -50mv undervolt
Prema vbios 200/400 +100.0MV

Firestrike was 15380

I'll push further later for now im okay with that.

 

Congratulations!

 

What's the difference of the Prema vbios for the stock? Only unlocked voltage?
Which version did you use?

 

NCIX[1] have it. The GT80 is certainly worth a trip to Canada just to get it.

[1] http://www.ncix.com/detail/msi-gt80-titan-sli-i7-cf-105242.htm

 

YEah, the default overvolts are like +25mv, so prema adds even more headroom and more OC.

 

It actually allows you to not only go over the stock voltage but clocks for the GPU and Memory too, its basically a way to quick tune default clocks and power into the bois and then flash, with a pretty slick GUI tool.

edit-answered above..my post can be removed if needed.

 

I don't live in the states so trip to Canada will probably cost me almost as much as the machine ........

 

Hi Guys, can anyone confirm 100% which of the below option perform faster.
- 1 512gb m2 sata [OS Installed]
OR
- 4*128(512gb) m2 sata in raid 0 [OS Installed]

If the 2nd option performs faster, will there be any way to add 2 more 128gb m2 sata and make total 512gb in raid 0, as @GTVEVO mentioned there are no screws available to add 2 more m2 sata inside GT80.

 

Considering you have the same/similar drives (128GB and 512GB of the same product family) it's very probable you will get much faster sequential reads/writes with the RAID 0 configuration. That's true for most of the current SSDs on the market.
Most of the M.2 AHCI drives that I know comes with the necessary screws, but there are models/skus not intended for consumer upgrade. It's better check with the reseller/store if they are included.

 

I believe that the Intel Rapid Storage will allow you to expand the Raid 0 on the fly. I have not done this personally but the option is there and others reported using it. Please note this is not probably the safest method if it does so you will want to ensure you have a full image ready to restore if needed.

If you end up needing screws MSI can send them too you and hopefully they will send you the correct ones (I only recieved 1 correct and one completely an incorrect size). I ended up sourcing some out of a recycled laptop for free and I grabbed some spares.

 

Thanks @GTVEVO @Cormogram for the clarification. Lets hope to get the screws inside the beast when actually the 009 model will be available

 

Tried to look it up, couldn't find anything and i remember reading something about it on here but couldnt find it so here is my question.
When you hit the num pad button to switch between touch pad and the number pad mine stopped working, i have re downloaded the driver and still dosnt work. All i have done is swapped out my SATA II driver for a SSD and it has stopped working. Any suggestions?

P.S. SSD is amazing even when its SATA II.

 

Try removing the power and disconnecting the battery to do an EC reset.

 

Were is the battery at? If i got to remove the warranty screws of the back then that's messed up. I don't see anything for taking a battery out so any suggestions.

 

The battery is basically under the TouchPad and you have to remove the rear panel to get to it. Your warenty will not be denied for removing it, only the parts damaged could be denied coverage. MSI has explained this many times on this forum so no worries.

My recommendation is still not to remove anything unless you are out side your purchase vendor's return/exchange policy.

As for the TouchPad no longer working I too remember reading something on it where you could uninstall the software then reinstall but I can't find the post. Hopefully others will chime in for you.

Thread that I found
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=253189.0

 

Hey guys have a little issue now and it's kinda inking me. So one of the ssd failed and I reset the raid and removed the failed ssd. I then left the one ssd that still works in there and I was just gonna re install the os and delete everything. But now it won't even boot from the dvd drive. I just get an error that says pxe:no boot filename recieved.

 

Did the F3 at boot not work either? With the stock 1tb spinner installed that will boot into recovery too.

 

Double check your boot priorities and make sure the optical drive is first. PXE is network booting so its looking for that first.