***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

Do you have this part in your gt80 ?

 

So I just got a kernal inpage error randomly while reading a document and cant get past bios anymore. legacy boot says sata1 failed, but 2nd ssd is still intact.
How do i boot back into windows if at all?
Noticed that F3 doesnt work for recovery and apparently a win8 cd wasnt part of the delivery. No win8 serial number on bottom of machine either -.-

 

If a ssd failed you will have to delete the raid from the bios storage management options and the recover using F3 but you must have the stock 1tb hdd installed to get to the proper recovery options. This happened to me and I was able to recover and use 1 m.2 while I waited for a replacement machine.

 

I don't on my 009, any idea what it is?

 

Something may have gone wrong then.
I went to BIOS, under advanced saw the failed RAID and then went to the working HDD (slot2) and in there selected delete RAID. (rather than on previous screen disconnect RAID)
Stalled a few mins and then still couldn't boot.
Tried F3 but does nothing at all.

Using my old msi to download a 8.1 installation disc currently and hope it manages to install on the gt80 (read somewhere that win8 key is saved in bios so i shouldnt need to enter it anywhere).
Sucks to have probably lost all my data on C:\ though

In the meantime, what BIOS options should I adjust given that its no longer a proper raid0?
For boot do i continue raid or change to ahci or ide? Also, uefi or legacy?

 

Did u not make backup disks? You can leave the options once you destroy the raid then you can select which disk to insall your recovery on. I think I did use the recovery cds on mine too but was figuring F3 would work the same way since the recovery part is on the 2.5 sata.

 

It is a motor device when you use a numerical keypad it should vibrate .

 

Didn't make backup disks as I never expected it to fail this early (less than 30 days)
F3 didn't work even though there is a MSR partition on the SATA drive, no idea why.

Ended up installing a fresh Win8.1 I downloaded and that worked. Had to change boot from UEFI to Legacy though to get it to work - On UEFI, it would keep going back to BIOS or with the installation CD in prevent me from installing on the remaining SSD due to some MBR issue

Other than booting up taking longer due to Legacy mode, I haven't so far noticed much of a difference in not having RAID0 and being 1 SSD short

 

So in other words there several of us out there who probably does not have the haptic feedback device on the touchpad

 

Yep it is very weird ;/.

 

Most users wont notice the speed difference from one SSD to two since a lot of transfers are more bottlenecked by the small file speeds which don't increase with RAID by very much.

 

There is supposed to be haptic feedback?? Mine does not have it. I also cannot use my touchpad unless I am logged in to Windows.
What do we do?

 

Maybe Geno can point us in the right direction or bring some clarity. I will make an attempt there first.

 

Is there ant benefit besides more total ram from running 4 sticks versus the 3 sticks stock? Does it run dual channel with 3 sticks?

 

To gain dual channel, you will need to run in pair otherwise you'd be running in single channel mode thus losing performance.

 

So upgrading to 4 stick over 3 would thus give me dual Channel?

 

Yes, that's correct.

 

Strange they would ship a machine with 3 sticks, the 009 ships with 3 sticks correct?

 

I have tried to unlock bios ;/ but amibcp doesn`t work as usual - on others msi models .

 

Yes the 009 comes with 3 sticks and its my indication that both memory channels are working since 2 sticks or more are present. The only time only one memory channel would be active would be with one stick or 2 sticks were split between the top and bottom slots is my understanding.

 

If ram slots 1 and 3(Channel 0) are both populated they run in dual channel mode.

If ram slots 2 and 4(Channel 1) have only one of them populated with a memory module it will run as Flex Mode

In practical use the difference in performance can be very small between dual channel mode and Flex Mode

More memory is always better than less memory regardless of the mode.

A mix of different speed/chips ram modules will result in all modules running at the speed of the slowest module.In some cases mixing will result in Flex Mode even if both slots in the channel are populated.

IMO,ram modules are best when they are all matching in speed and latency;the same maker would be better too in some cases.

 

Hello guys, is the 009 in stock somewhere? Every retailer has it out of stock

 

I wonder why our GT80s don't seem to have it. It did puzzle me because I do remember reading about haptic feedback.

 

I don't have it either, and I do not have haptic feedback (nor see that option anywhere in settings).

.....what gives? (have the 001 model)

I should also clarify a little bit - I see the area in which you would plug a cable into labeled "motor", just no cable.

 

THIS is why all -009 models are delayed in the US. They are stuck in shipping containers.

 

Lol

 

According to MSI, this feature was introduced but later removed in the finalized spec in production units. So it is not available anymore.

 

In all the early reviews, many said the haptic feedback lagged, and some cited it as an annoyance.

 

Yes, the feedback was a failed implementation thus why it was removed.
Thanks for the addendum info Striker. ^^

 

You know, since I have one of the only -009's in the US, I forgot to check if mine has the haptic feedback, LOL!

 

Yes, how lucky! Port issue caused all of the delays...

 

Meh, I don't call it luck..... I call it Ken working his magic, LOL!

 

My 009 doesn't have it either

 

The model I used for our video review (001) didn't have it either.

 

I will plug "motor" tomorrow and I will let you know if it is working correct

 

I can remember when "port problems" were limited to serial or parallel...

 

911!



I just bought the 2015 Razer Blade 14. I am returning it tomorrow. I have purchased and returned:



P34gv2

P35xv3

Aorus x7 Pro

GS60 Ghost Pro x3

2015 Razer Blade 14



I was looking for the best laptop for battery power and gaming. I mean note taking in class and then gaming on the side. I have found out that does not exist.



I absolute love the GS60 Ghost Pro. It is so far my favorite laptop. The only problem is that the battery life is absolutely horrible, actually quite trash.



I have decided if I am going to tie myself to an AC Adapter I mine as well do it right and get the GT80 Titan. Have the best of the best while doing it.



Wife has already said no to desktop because we don’t have the room. But the Titan I can have on one of the kitchen tables.



So my question is which GT80 Titan?



There are two on Newegg. One with the 4980HQ and one with the 4720HQ. One reviewer said that he got the 4720HQ because he did a lot of research. Do you think he is relating to the heat problem of the 4980HQ?



If you were going to get a Titan which one would it be and why?



I think I ran into a comment saying that the SLI 980M’s are bottleneck by the processors anyway. Are we doomed with the GT80 Titan?



Are both 980M’s running at full potential or will I have to build a desktop and run something at 4.4 GHZ nice and cooled to get the benefit of true SLI?



Please help me with this decision. Thank you.

 

First of all... relax.

As for your expectations, i'd say you have to be realistic of what to expect out of machines. If you thing 2-3 hours is trash, then gaming machines are not exactly what you are looking for. Man, I and to think I grew up with laptop batteries being something like an emergency system... lasting 20 mins. An hour was something only expensive models had haha. Battery life and performance literally are enemies.

Anyways, there is no thermal issue, and I wish users would read more into it. These haswell processors are limited by TDP and they are locked. Select few are unlocked and tend to be the socket versions which are increasingly harder to find in new models. As such, in my personal opinion, the intel 4980HQ simply has wasted potential (since it can turbo to very high speeds). Since TDP will limit the max power of the CPU to 47w, it won't matter how fast your CPU runs at times, it will eventually modulate back to 47w which will result in similar performance between 4720 and 4980, with the latter being slightly faster all around.

Next.... bottleneck. People throw the term left and right but this is not the case here. You could say a 4720hq somewhat limits the full potential of the dual GPUs at times, but this is not a bottleneck. Depending on the game, the burden may be entirely on the CPU, and on others, the burden alone would be on the GPUs. In such cases, it wouldn't matter whether you have a desktop with 5.4ghz or a slower cpu. Some people said 4720hq bottlenecked a single 980m. If that were the case, there would be close to zero performance gain with dual 980m. And we know this is not true, for GT80 performs exceptionally well.

There is no "doom" with GT80s. Not actual throttling due to temps, nor any issue in particular so far. You will get the benefit of SLI in any game that supports it, easily. If it doesn't, you can disable sli and use a single 980m which is still plenty powerful.

As to which one I would get? Well I already got 001 version. I am perfectly happy with it. I would recommend it as a gaming monster. Definitely.

But you first have to settle with your expectations. What exactly do you need? there is no such thing as a full day battery laptop, except select very power limited ultrabooks or the sort, which means no performance. But if you then need performance, that means no battery life, however you slice it. With the GT80 on intel GPU, you will get around 2 hours of use for general browsing, but I seriously doubt you can game on it without severely cutting your battery life down making it useless unless on AC.

So in the end, if your question is between 001 and 009 or other variations? I'd say 001. Unless you want extra performance in short bursts, or need the extra CPU power for any reason. Whatever you choose, first realize that the CPU is non upgradeable, and you will live with it for the rest of the GT80's life. Your GPUs will be upgradable for at least two more generations. Your battery life will be 2 hours in general, at best. You will, most of the time, enjoy full power of SLI except on select few games which will still have some work around.

 

Thank so so much for all of this information.

Yes I have given up on battery power. I will use my Dell Latitude 10 for taking notes at school. That's done.

Gaming on the go is just not there yet. Yes the GS60 is my favorite but if I'm going to be stuck with 2 hours with the gs60 why not just go titan and be stuck with 2 hours there.

Are you saying that the 4720 is the best option?

Does it run cooler?

The 4980 might have a little more burst but are you saying that it is power throttled? So mine as well get the 4720 version and be happy with it?

I mainly play battlefield 4. It's all cpu driven. Will the 4980 significantly help with BF4 or is it no big deal?

 

Why not get the gs30. Im getting 5 hours battery for school work and scoring over 10k on firestrike docked - and you save 1000$. Its also very very fast on the go - just not a good gamer when undocked

You sound like the perfect user for this pc - check out my review on here.

 

Glad I was able to help you.

As for your question: both 4720hq and 4980hq are power limited. So both will throttle due to power limit. Remember that the actual speed of these cpus is 2.6-2.8ghz, but they boost up to 3.6-4.4ghz respectively. On stock, they modulate finally at around 3.3 or so ghz.

My tweaked cpu operates at 3.55ghz. So i think both cpus have similar final performance after turbo ends.

As for battlefield, take a look. http://www.techspot.com/review/734-battlefield-4-benchmarks/page6.html

You will gain close to nothing going with a faster CPU. If these CPUs were faster, at best we could get higher minimum framerates, but as they are, they perform exceptionally well.

As with throttling and bottlenecking, people exaggerate the difference in gaming from the CPU. The mistake comes from forgetting that 4720hq is still a very powerful processor, and it already gives excellent performance when it comes to gaming. As such, the stronger processors out there are not going to give you that much more performance. CPU is very important, make no mistake, but 4720HQ is still a high end processor.

Of course if you originally had a low end CPU, then the difference is substantial. But as is, i'd say whatever you can run with the highest end mobile CPU, you can run on 4720hq. At least on mobile, there isn't much higher to go up to.

Also this. This is definitely a choice you have as well. Gaming while docked will be amazing, and you still get great battery life on the go.

 

Thank you so much for all of this help.

I am still kind of lost though.

I just returned my 2015 Razer Blade 14 and canceled my order for the GS60 Ghost Pro -066. I was for some insane reason thinking of going back to that I do not know why.

Please clarify.

What you are saying is that if you want full power out of SLI you will probably need to go build a Desktop to get ALL THE POWER out of the processor and its turbo.

BUT

If you want a great powerful gaming laptop with SLI like the GT80 Titan you will not be disappointed. You might not get the full potential out of the SLI or the Processor because of the 47 TDP

BUT

You will be satisfied.

Is this correct?

Basically you will get most of your power out of the SLI and the CPU and you will be very satisfied with the performance.

...

I am thinking of getting either one. Because my thoughts are if I am going to be tied to an AC Adapter like the GS60 Ghost Pro - 066 with only 2.5 hours of battery life. I mine as well do it in style with the GT80 Titan.

Also ...

What do you think about the Sager SLI 980M? It has upgradeable CPU. Do you think there is any comparison here or does the Titan blow it away?

Also ...

Why did you get the Titan verse building an insane gaming desktop that can handle full turbo and fuel all the powe you need to it?

 

Good news it works!

 

So how did you aquire this part? School us please.

 

Just thought I'd put my experience with the 4980 here as an extra possibly useless piece of information, I don't know enough to say whether a conclusion can be drawn from this or not but....

My gt80 -023
4980hq
32gb ram
4 x 256gb ssd and 1tb hdd

Ran a series of ray traces on the architectural software I use, it never dropped under 3.92ghz in the 6 hours it was running for.

 

Seems like great info to me!

 

Also if you get the Sager version wouldn't this solves everyones problem with CPU limitation?

4th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-4940MX Processor Extreme Edition ( 8MB L3 Cache, 3.1GHz )

This is 57 TDP. Would that not be enough power to do what you need plus be powerful enough to be fully power the SLI 980M. I mean that CPU should run BF4 perfectly and process the SLI 980m's perfectly. Correct?

 

It is not easy . I got it because of beeing majster msi . Maybe on ebay ...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-FrSky-T...Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35d5a4c277
However It could not be compatible - it hasn`t rubber around motor.

 

CPU from 5 years ago can run battlefield 4 its highly GPU optimized.
The performance gain from CPU speed is marginal in BF4

 

Looks like you bought the Titan as well.

Why did you not build a Desktop?

What made you get the MSI over the Sager?