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Here are a couple more scores from my 9700k/2070 rig. I’m actually enjoying this machine more than my 51m with the 9900K/2080. Performance seems more consistent and with the amazing cooling I can tinker a lot more with it. Today I’m shooting for a run with my 9700K at 5.4ghz.






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Hi Guys,

sorry, my english is so bad so i use a translater.
If I understand that correctly, are you looking for a program that turns down the fans but keeps the basic settings in the Dragon Center?
I use "nvidia / GeForce experience".
The latest version of the program is available for download from Nvidia. Then activate or deactivate "Whisper Mode" in the settings without having to restart.

Greeting

 

There must be something in the bios avoiding the performance past a certain point would be my guess.

 

Here is my GT76 desk setup!




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Glad to see this thread is gaining some really good traction. I’ve been ill and almost died, but on the path to recovery and this thread brings more than a little joy to my day.

Halogod - I have what appear to be black fans, they are the same as case color. Display is AUO509D.

Kudos to all the tweaking, you are pushing the boundaries very well. I will start when I can stomach being in front of a screen, but until then I noticed one achievement on steam via 3dmark with the description “Brawn: Your GPU is ready to rumble but your CPU doesn’t want to play.” Might explain the low physx scores?

 

What’s your physics score again? Your 9700K should be in the 19 to 21k range

Ps. Oh and feel better, I got the flu this year for the first time since I was a child and I literally thought I was going to die.

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Oh nice. What is the mouse and pads?

 

mouse: razer lancehead mercury white
Mousepad: Corsair MM800
Notebook cooler: thermaltake massive 20 RGB
Razer RGB headset stand

 

Did a little bit of a research. A little on the lower side but nothing wrong with the gt76 scores. Keep in mind you have prema bios and that completely unlocks the potential of the machine. We on the other hand are a little held back. But given the clocks.... It still within the range of a 5.0-5.2hrz according to this video. Bob of all trades Compared multiple laptops

I have a p870km1 I bought from HID evolution. I know prema bios do wonders. Hope he can make some magic happen on the gt76 at some point. GT76's cooling is far far superior than any clevo laptop out there right now. I had p870dm with 980m sli, then the p870km1 with 1080 sli 7700k. -

 

I have to agree, I’ve had the 51m, p870, p775, and nothing compares to the GT76 cooling solution. It’s the only laptop that let me run up to 5.4ghz without hitting throttle limits


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Can you control the fans using geforce experience? ? I dont rememeber seeing that the last time I used it... it has been a long time.

 

With Whisper mode you set each games max frame rate so a lower setting will keep lower fan speeds since there will be less heat generated. But no direct control over fans.
On that subject I tried Speed Fan but it failed completely which, probably is no surprise to anyone.

 

We know Prema bios unlocks the full potentiale. But we talk about stock clocks who don't gain much from the bios mod. The gain will come with proper overclock. My old Clevo P870 not intended for 9900K can still put out +25800 in 3Dm FS physics with stock clocks.

We both know Dell cripple their Area-51m gaming flagship's Cpu performance. Not sure what's up with that Evoc P775 (see below). Regarding the MSI GT 76 iI mean it come with preinstalled overclock. Maybe @B0B can confirm what clock speed he run in the 3DM Firestrike test.

Edit. Overclock aready confirmed here. Stock is below 23.000 in Physics


From Notebookreview.net... P775@Stock clocks as showed in the pict. More in line with what 9900K should perform in 3DM FS physics as showed below.

 

Clock speed for Apex in that section you linked has the GPU barely saturated so clocks run very high.

 

We are in the mid 26ks sounds about right to me. Little on the lower side like I said but you made it seem like something was wrong with the gt76- there is nothing wrong other than it has stock bios and is held back a little. Still within range from what I see.

 

I found a solution (more like a work around). I completely uninstalled Dragon center using (geek Uninstaller) Removes registries and left out files.

I find that the auto fan works pretty good for some games ( I play dota 2 ) no need for fan control there. In other games like Battlefield 5 I just press the button next to the power button for max fans.

I do my cpu overclocking in the bios. I find that this works pretty well for me (now I can overclock gpu using msi afterburner) without conflicting with stupid dragon center.



Hope this helps brother

 

Oh man, I can’t do max fans in gaming lol. I have my fans for cpu capped at 55 percent and GPU 40 percent for good temps. 100 percent is literally the sound of a jet taking off

 

OK, folks, I need some opinions. I just finished some major (conventional) cooling improvements. I am letting it bake in right now, so give me a program or game with a built-in bench that taxes the CPU and GPU simultaneously. I'm looking for real-world games\benchmark programs.

So far I'm planning Firestrike and Strange Brigade.

 

maybe you find the auto fans works without MSI Dragon Center. For light games you can get away with the auto fans.

 

So over a week in and I’m loving the GT76. Here are a few things I’ve noticed though that I wish were improved.

1. RGB lighting is not bright enough especially in a bright room. All my razer peripherals are twice as bright. Not sure why MSI went for dim lighting on the keyboard and light bar.

2. Fan control, wish there was an app just for fan control without overclocking so I don’t have to battle dragon center every startup.

3. Optimus; makes 0 sense to have it on this laptop and even though I don’t miss gsync that much, it may help in games with lower frames.

Other than that, I love it. Enjoying it more than I did my 51m and p775. I bought it at a bad time where new laptops, GPUs, and processors are right around the corner but then again that’s why I get a new laptop every 10 to 12 months.


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All great comments, especially the last one, and actually I find it best - less stressful, to purchase for my own use stable if not EOL products at least well matured more toward the 2nd half of their life-cycle, as I'm always battling cutting edge stuff for others - it's nice to come home to stable hardware I can actually simply enjoy instead of tuning and tweaking and trying to stablize.

I don't hate RGB, I have it in my current build, but I don't like it on my keyboard or Mouse / Trackpad, I find it distracting more than enjoyable. An occasional glance at the PC as I enter or leave the room is enough, and after a while I just end up turning it off to cut out another source of "visual noise" and minor power wastage - every little bit of power wastage adds up.

On laptop the keyboard RGB stays off as it keeps dragging my eye from the screen to the keyboard, and I use an external keyboard to stop that from happening anyway - I can focus better on what is on the screen if my hands aren't jumping up and down on the keys right in front of the screen - an external keyboard removes that distraction to an out of screen region below my eye-view.

The GT76 is awesome BTW, and I wouldn't be concerned about being +-% points short of total *DOMiNATION* performance

Those guys aren't about enjoying the power of the laptop for actual use, it's all about having the biggest numbers...Epeen has never been of interest except to dispel it's effects on the feeble human psyche...

I still enjoy my vehicles, food, entertainment even if it's not always delivered at that Nth degree of over-performance grandeur.

 

Dont worry brother... the only thing around the corner is the 2080 Super (5%Gain) the 3000 series are still far a way ( for laptops at least)

 

Honestly, Optimus makes perfect sense for me and is a big reason I went with GT76. I use my laptop away from a plug quite a bit. With my last laptop (i7 8750H-GTX 1070) I stopped using it outside the home a lot because G Sync is a big power suck and the battery could never make it. Now, even with the current hardware in the Titan the battery lasts much longer.

BTW, anyone want to buy an Asus ROG Strix Scar Edition GL703GS?

 

I used to think I couldn’t live without gsync, but now that I’ve gone without it I’m actually better at FPS games, it seems like running without gsync greatly improves the response time

 

Yup, many of us have been running for many years before G-sync / Free-sync, and even with V-sync off many games are just fine as they are.

If you run into tearing the old trick was to tune the FPS with rivatuner + MSI Afterburner ( download from MSI) and set the FPS at or just below your sync rate - 60hz back then.

As refresh and frame rates went up I haven't had to do that trick for a long time. I think that's what you are seeing now.

Freesync seems to be cleaner - less overhead - than Gsync, as I can notice Gsync on but not Freesync on. Could just be me.

 

Hey guys, Girls Gurus....

Gt76 owner here 9SG variant, I am wanting some knowledge, and this may throw some of you off.

I am wanting to liberate the 9900k from my Gt76 and use it in a mini itx rig as the threads would benefit a development machine for my work, but i still want the gt76 to be functional and give it to one of my kids.

my question is could i pick up a used / new old stock 8700k to replace the 9900k cpu.

i know it will fit the socket etc as 8th and 9th gen are the same and supported by the z390 chipset, the question here is the gt76 bios / chipset supporting of this change?

 

Yup, you can swap the processor out as it is supported. BIOS should not have any issues with this swap.

 

Cheers

 

Okay so my GT76 has a major issue with power delivery, and I'm not sure on which end.

It's simple, when I start a game or benchmark, the CPU/GPU clocks start jumping all over the place, and obviously the framerate is a stuttery mess. If I Alt/Tab during this, the laptop is constantly switching from a state of plugged/unplugged/plugged/unplugged ad nauseum. Sometimes this will stop as soon as I exit the game, others I have to restart the machine.

If I unplugged AC power I get a consistent 30fps experience on the battery.

I tried downclocking the GPU core/mem by like 300MHz/500MHz, plus clocked the CPU at 3.6Ghz with a -.075 undervolt to see if too much power was being drawn, but the issue persisted.

I've checked and double checked all of the AC connections, everything is good.

Any ideas? Obviously I have to contact MSI, but I'm wondering if I should ask them to send me a new PSU set first, or if I should just go through the trouble of sending my laptop to them right away.

 

If you have the original OS image out of the box as a BurnRecovery or disk image, I'd try pulling the boot drive and putting in an empty drive to restore to the out of the box OS and see if the problem persists.

That way you can see if it's a hardware or software based problem.

Barring the original OS, see if a clean install with updates to previous Windows OS (than your current one) with those games installed has the same problem, again to rule out software as the problem.

I haven't seen that particular problem before, and it might be a power component, so see if you can borrow PSU / cables from someone else and swap it in to see if the problem goes away.

It might be something as simple as that particular power outlet, or power strip developing a fault - I've got one such here - so try a different circuit outlet where you are.

It also might be a loose cable connection that under power load gets intermittent. Unplug and replug in all the socketed cables between the laptop and the wall to see if that might be the simple solution.

 

Well I got home from this morning's dental appointment and the laptop now refuses to accept power and won't even turn on, so I guess she's dead, Jim.

 

So sorry! Any update on this?

 

Also. Another thing to keep in mind is when\if the 2080 super does come to laptops it might not come in a full desktop variant. And it surely won't right away. So that being the case we will be seeing 115-watt versions at best, and, I am confident in saying the stock 2080 at 200 watts will run rings around a 2080 super with a much lower power allowance.

Kevin, did you try unplugging the battery and running straight off the wall?

 

Hey guys ! So just purchase the mighty GT76 Titan DT-230 from Xotic PC with some upgrade goodies (More and faster RAM, Better OS m2 Drive, and Thermal Grizzly) But after reading many post here, not sure how I feel about it, I'm coming from a GT72 Titan so it was due a upgrade, but the double power bricks and all the weird connection to it is kind of turning me off a little bit, also how bad is really is the motherboard on this, I think i read some post that strongly encourage me to purchase a extended warranty on it ? should I consider spending the extra $500 and maybe go with the alienware 51M ??

 

The connection to the system is a bit unusual but it works. Just keep an eye on it because it can become loose and all of a sudden you are running on battery. As for dual power supplies that is pretty much the norm nowadays with top-performing laptops. As far as the motherboard I have honestly not heard of any problems so I can't comment on that. I have had zero reliability problems (GT76 Titan DT-090) and neither has my nephew (GS75 Stealth Ultra i9 9880H).

The extended warranty is actually a good idea with this level of hardware anyway. I got a 2 year extended from Asurion ($190) because it also covers accidental damage.

Last, The Alienware has its own problems I can assure you (Heat-related and unreliable power supplies), and dealing with Dell\Alienware customer service is an absolute nightmare.

 

Hi Bruno, I’ve had mine since December and have to say so far so good. Mine performs very well unlike my previous A51 which was returned and “repaired” twice before I made the switch. This is the only MSI laptop where you do not read about repetitive failures and I’ve never actually read of a motherboard failure that wasn’t due to abuse (excessive overclocking).

As far as Xotic PC, I hope your experience with them is good because I’ve read some poor reviews on them regarding correspondence. Just make sure you are getting what you paid for and I really hope you did not finance with Affirm as rhey are problematic should you claim a return. Make sure they keep you updated every so and so days.

 

Thanks for the updates guys, Xotix PC has been great to me, This will be my 5th Laptop from then (3rd GT, 2 GS) in the last 5 years and all of then had no issues what so ever.

I will debate on the extended warranty. Can i buy a Asurion extended warranty on a Xotic PC ?

 

I contacted Asurion for that very question when I bought my Titan Bruno and you can just buy the warranty on Amazon, then register it with them (instructions will be in the contact emails).
I ran into a snag when I registered mine but I called them and they fixed it in minutes.

 

Hey all. I've browsed through quite a few of the pages here to get up to speed, so excuse me if I ask a repetitive question that I may have missed.

Currently have had my GE75 Raider 8SF for almost a year now. It's treated me quite well. I'm looking for something with a better CPU though, and I'm talking more than a few MHz better, thus leading me to either Alienware A51M, or the GT76. Never been a huge fan of Dell, or overpriced Alienware even before they became Dell. And reading about some of the problems people having with those, makes the decision easy to write the A51M off as an option.

I'm specifically looking at a hidevolution option, with a delidded i7 or i9. My thought is either way, a desktop version CPU is going to be wayyy better than the i7-8750h in my GE75.

My biggest factor in wanting to upgrade is to run Star Citizen better, and want to sell this GE75 before it loses too much value.

Anyway, the specific questions I have:

1. Anyone with a GT76 play Star Citizen, if so, how's it run?
2. I have a 500gig samsung evo m.2 and a 1tb WD black m.2. If I buy from hidevolution with only a HDD, is it easy enough to just install the m.2s that I have, thus saving on the inflated cost of the m.2s they'd be putting in?
3. I've read that people have had very good experience with hidevolution. Any specifics I should know before buying from them? Buying direct from them better than buying through amazon in any way?
4. I've only ever used 1080p with my desktop, and this current GE75 I have. If I buy a 4k version screen, can I run it at 1080p just fine to get the 144hz, or does it not scale properly?
5. Paint protection, backlight bleed, and color calibration worth the additional cost? Do they need to have the OS installed to do color calibration?
6. Opinion on Killer™ Wi-Fi 6 AX1650 2x2 w/ Bluetooth 5.0 vs Intel® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2x2 w/ Bluetooth 5.0?

Appreciate any other tips/thoughts as well!

 

I can only reply to some of your questions and will leave the rest for others with the experience you are seeking.

2. Yes, it is quite easy. You can find some YouTube videos showing the procedure, or if you do end up buying from HIDevolution.com our Tech Support Team can help you with it.
3. Buying from our site will give you many more upgrade options, more payment methods...and of course the Notebookreview discount.
4. No, scaling doesn't work well, nor does scaling to 1080p increase the refresh rate to 144Hz
5. This will take a bit of a conversation to resolve whether these upgrades would be worth it to you. The OS comes pre-installed, and we do the hardware calibration with the Spyder5 Pro and save the .icc profile to a thumb drive that is included. Should you need to do a fresh install of the OS, once done, just load the .icc profile.
6. Killer is just a re-branded Intel AX200 with its goofy software wrapped around it. My take is I would not want Killer personally, but other opinions will vary.

If you would like to talk about any of the technology, and how to make it best fit your uses, please feel free to call me at 1-888-666-3418 Extension 44 between 9 AM and 6 PM Pacific Time ~ Monday through Friday, or reply to [email protected] with any questions.

 

Thanks everyone for sharing all your experiences! I'm currently thinking of getting the GT76 DT-230 model with the i9700k and rtx 2070 and was just wondering if anyone else has any input or experience regarding the Temps and/or performance improvements with delidded CPUs and liquid metal application between the die and IHS on the 9700k in particular? Is it pretty much a necessity in order to get consistent 5+ghz performance with good temps? I've kind of been considering getting that option via HIDevolution for a while now and was curious what people thought about it.

 

My laptop has shipped, Will keep you guys posted once i get it, I order some extra upgrades for it, so can't wait to get it all going.

 

My model is equipped with 4K 60 Hz screen. On eBay I've found FullHD 144 Hz variant for GT76. How easy is it change the screen panel (if it's even possible)? Or maybe there is a video instruction? I can't find anything.

 

Just wanted to give you guys a heads up about your placement for the power cable.

Make sure you don't let it hang too much as it can make the Esc key too sensitive due to the pressure of the cable inside the laptop.

I had hidevolution replace the keyboard and they couldn't find the issue or heard of anything being a key would get more sensitive rather than losing sensitivity. Now, it's working fine but occasionally the Esc button would be sensitive, but resolved by adjusting the power cord by lifting up the cable that is connected to the laptop.


Video of what the Esc button does in game


Video of the sensitivity of the button


As you can see the button is pretty sensitive and sometimes it can be so sensitive it would detect it was hit twice.

My suggestion is to minimize the power cord hanging downward as much as possible.

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I have the same issue right now. This didn't originally happen and it seemed to have started intermittently a few months ago. It pops up when playing R6S, CS:GO, and any other demanding game. The framerate will drop from 144 to as low as 6 fps every 5-20 seconds, making the game unplayable. Then, for some reason, it will stop for a bit and I will be able to play alright for another couple hours (if I'm lucky). It's random when it stops, but will always stutter when playing a game after startup/sleep. I tried using DDU to reinstall Nvidia drivers and even updated to the latest version, but the stuttering persists. Battery calibration and cold shutdown did not help either. I bought the laptop and picked it up locally from HID, so if I have an issue hopefully it's easier to service. @Ted@HIDevolution @Donald@HIDevolution

 

It's actually not that hard to remove the screen. Requires heat and some patience. It's totally possible though.

 

I'm really not sure I can do that myself without any damage. At least without looking at how it's done. I have only one laptop, can't allow myself to break it. I hope I'll find a detailed description or video of the process.

 

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Right click on your desktop then choose nVIDIA Control Panel. Go to Manage 3D Settings from the left pane, then scroll down a bit until you see power management. If you see it's set to OPTIMAL which is the default setting when you install a driver. That's your issue.

Optimal Power means when there is no draw on the screen, the GPU clock speeds is set 0 MHz to save power and then ramps up once it needs to. Sounds great on paper, works like crap. This is the number one reason why anyone might experience crappy performance from their nVIDIA GPU. What's worse, is that's the default setting in the nVIDIA Control Panel after you install a new driver often leading people to blame the driver for bad performance when it's just the fault of nVIDIA's clowns.

Set the power management to Adaptive which puts the GPU at lower clock speeds when no GPU intensive apps are in use and it would ramp the clocks up when needed. That actually works. It's the best balance between getting lower heat from the GPU and good performance in games.

When benchmarking, for the optimal results, it's best to set the power management to High Performance.

Mind you, after you change the power management to whatever you set it to, a reboot is mandatory for the new clocks to take effect.

Classical nVIDIA Swiss Cheese

 

Thanks, just set that now. I will see tomorrow if the issue is fixed (I hope). Are you sure though that this would fix the issue of the battery icon rapidly going from unplugged/battery power to AC power? I appreciate the help.