The Official MSI GT76 Titan Owners and Discussions Lounge

Yup, there it is in the small print on that image, "For being a loyal GT owner, we are offering a limited time $150 Mail-in rebate on your next GT-76 laptop purchase"

I think you only were sent that because you were a registered MSI laptop owner...ahhh, checked my email and I also got that offer 22 hours ago.

There is no proof of previous ownership listed as a requirement in the rules - so perhaps it will be good for anyone.

Here is MSI's Rebate Information site:
For questions or concerns about your rebate, call 877-552-3988
https://msi.4myrebate.com/
https://msi.4myrebate.com/Home/FAQv2

 

I wonder if they will honor the rebate for me, even though I purchased the GT76 outside the specified date range (I got mine early July). I probably will contact them to see if they will give some leeway.

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Hey have you seen this?
Area 51m compared to GT76, and the GT is losing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwFoMGP8FVs
I'm a little puzzled to be honest by the results.

 

Probably down to power plan and tuning. It almost looks like the GT76 is running Balanced power plan - Minimum CPU is at 5% vs 100%, similarly for Nvidia 3D global settings set to quality vs performance.

I tuned a GT75 8950HK / 2080 and my Firestrike scores compare to the GT76 and Area-51m, so again it comes down to tuning. I use Windows, XTU, MSI DGC, and MSI Afterburner to get my tuning done - some like DGC's graphics and you can run both if you layer the changes (DGC first, then XTU / AB).

IDK why a vendor that sells hardware like Xotic PC would bother alienating one of their SKU's like this - potentially causing them to sell fewer GT76's, unless they get better % profit from selling the AW Area-51m's - or there aren't enough GT76's being built.

Consciously, sub-consciously, or thoughtlessly; by pitting one SKU against another Xotic is pushing sales of one over the other.

Seems like an odd thing for them to have done... without a profit motive.

I wouldn't worry about the perceived performance difference, you'll be able to tune your unit within a close enough approximation of the best of the best.

Also as I've said many times before benchmark numbers don't mean much when you turn on frame limiters, G-sync, etc to reduce load so you can reduce fan noise and thermals. Those benchmark numbers aren't every day use numbers, unless you like to run 100% fan's all of the time.

+- 10w-20w of power on the GPU is going to make numbers differences but very little perceivable difference in every day gaming. It's also going to make the GPU run hotter, and the fans run louder. Over time most people get tired of the loud fans, or their spouses / friends complain, and you end up lowering the performance to lower the fan noise.

 

Yeah, no and yeah.

Of course RTX 2080 with 200w TDP will beat the standard laptop RTX 2080.

So, yes the 51m looks like a good gamers laptop no doubt.

However, what about the thermals? The turbo sustainability?

Overclocking is a joke on the 51m because it will not be able to sustain any OC, let alone sustain the normal turbo for very long. I am not talking about gaming at this point. Some of us would use the machine for work also. What about a test which is sensitive to memory bandwidth?

Is MSI going to bump the RTX tdp?

Cool things about the GT76 are the BIOS and the 4K panel already available.

I have to admit, for gaming the 51m looks like a winner, specially if you get the easy Dell discount.

 

heh maybe you can help us submit feedback. no soldered GPU.

@hmscott AMD's new RDNA GPU surprised a lot of us and 5700 included a portion of GCN too. we might see AMD re-entering the mobile GPU space sooner than we thought. originally i thought with nvidia going to 7nm would increase the gap again but thats no longer the case. moorelawisdead had a few good sound argument that changed my mind. no more bs $1500 per card.

desktop be awesome within next 2 yrs, laptop maybe 2-3 yrs.

 

I just placed my order for a GT76 DT-039. Two things...

One of my main uses for this machine (and why I went with the more powerful desktop 9900K) will be audio production. Can someone run LatencyMon on theirs to see how it handles? I got a bit worried when I saw it used Nvidia Optimus.

https://www.resplendence.com/latencymon

Second thing, I am upgrading from a GT72S. Does anyone know how I can get in on that rebate offer? I never got an email about it and mine is registered.

TIA

 

AMD have nothing to offer! In notebooks !

 

hence next 2-3 yrs. dont worry though they will soon enough, would love to see a 6700 in a laptop destroying nvidia 3070

 

Anyone know if this is compatible?

https://shop.msicomputer.com/App/StoreFront/ProductDetail.aspx?ID=1486

2x230w + converter

 

No, the connector for the combo box's output is different compared to what the GT76 uses.

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Even if the connectors were the same, and the 330w adapters worked, it wouldn't surprise me in the least bit if it wouldn't make any difference due to MSI limiting the power draw in the EC.

 

Can this laptop do non-gaming work with one power supply?

 

The GT75 switches to battery if one of the power supplies isn't connected or working correctly, I would imagine it's the same for the GT76.

One of the 2 PSU's on the GT75 Titan-013 had it's AC cable work itself out and the laptop switched to battery mode while it was running - pretty disturbing and disappointing to think that a single PSU won't run or charge the laptop.

As included the PSU's are "welded" together at the converter box connection (2x330w example):


I'm not sure how individual PSU's will work connected to the converter box.

If it can sense a single PSU problem and won't work even with one PSU still running, I'm getting worried I might need to get an entire converter + 2 PSU's as a single replacement unit, which is $300 - someone posted a link earlier to MSI replacements - I'll see if I can find it later.

Here's an Ebay listing for the 2x330w + converter replacement for $400!:

New MSI AC power adapter Delta 330 Watt AC adapter X2 for MSI GT83 (1080 SLI)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-MSI-AC...dapter-X2-for-MSI-GT83-1080-SLI-/222525407446

Found the 2x230w version the GT75 Titan-013 would use as a replacement, $300!:

MSI AC power adapter Delta 230 Watt AC adapter X2 for MSI GT83 GT73 (1070 SLI)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-AC-power-adapter-Delta-230-Watt-AC-adapter-X2-for-MSI-GT83-GT73-1070-SLI/222525446445

 

Correct, my GT76 will not charge with only one power supply. Regarding the replacement of the adapters and adapter box, I think I saw that you could, for example, get replacements from HIDevolution for less than on eBay or other sites ($200).


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Hi there, just received my GT76 and it's now set up and ready.
A couple of questions for you owners:

1. Have you updated to the 'infamous' windows 1903 ?
2. I cannot find any raid options. When switching BIOS to Legacy mode (from UEFI) I cannot boot from my disk drive. Any ideas appreciated.
3. Cleanup - I like the dragon software and plan on keeping it. Other than that I want a clean OS, and aside from built in games, what have you uninstalled?
4. Battery life: I see options to not to charge until it's down to 70%/50% but I see no option to limit charging only up to 80% for example

Any other ideas to keep this puppy alive? I plan to undervault later, not just yet.

 

I can't imagine what was thinking the guy that sits behind this logic. Its very convinient to carry around just one ac adapter - coz hey, nobody is benching this machine all the time.

Similar thing with AW and double ac plug. They could just make converter.

In clevo if power delivery is not enough - for ex running firestrike with 1x230w - machine basicly just turning off. And it makes the most sense out of rest solutions.

 

Check the value in EC RAM register "31" in RWEverything-EC tab, with both AC Adapters plugged in.
Then unplug one and then check the value. If it changes, change it back manually and see if that improves anything.

 

sounds like a cancer design carried over from gt75

 

Hello Falkentyne, completely unrelated to the thread but asking this here since I couldnt PM you. Would you have any idea where I can learn programming and modifying bios for different laptops? Seems to be fun considering theres plenty of detail and complexities involved.

 

No idea besides win-raid.com and reading forums. Sorry.

 

Hi, have anyone been getting a blue screen due to windows power errors after leaving the laptop to sleep by itself?
If I turn it off (sleep) myself it works fine, but if I let it sleep after a timer I come back to it and it's the blue screen. Weird.

 

No, I haven't. However, I did get 3-4 blue screens unrelated to power/sleep since I got the laptop at the beginning of July (caused by drivers/undervolting/some UEFI settings). Now that I've finished tweaking the system, it seems stable now. You might want to try checking for updates and resetting the UEFI to default. I am on Windows 10 version 1903 BTW.

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If anyone else has this question, I was able to get my answer. The guys at ExcaliburPC were good enough to run LatencyMon for me before they shipped the laptop and found that it does perform just fine as long as you put it in high performance mode in Dragon Center and Power Options. Very impressed with the service of this reseller. Got my GT76 yesterday, and sure enough, Ableton Live is performing very well.

 

For those in this thread asking about the Eurocom 780W AC adapter, I am in touch with the guys at Eurocom about a new GT76-compatible cable for the supply-side of their unit and they seem open to the idea. Anyone else interested may want to drop them an email. Maybe we can make this happen.

 

Would any owners of this laptop be able to determine if any of the video outputs (mDP, HDMI, TB3) are connected to the Intel GPU? In theory it should be possible to see this in the Nvidia Control Panel, Set Physx Configuration. Anything connected to the Intel / Nvidia should be represented by a little port in each section.

 

My GT76 fails to sleep. When I wake it up after sleep mode, it ends up with this BSOD. BIOS is up to date. All is working ok when the laptop is up and running. All new winodws and hardware. Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Update: opened a support case with MSI for this. I'll update if I hear anything. Waiting for any opinions here too.

 

As I did state in an earlier post, the mDP and HDMI ports are directly connected to the GPU (luckily). I don't know about the TB3 port since I don't have the proper cable or monitor.

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Ah, I apologize for not noticing that. If you could check the Physx page of the Nvidia Control Panel it may indicate what GPU the TB3 port is connected to. If it is connected to the UHD630 then you would see two ports in each section, if it is connected to the RTX 2080 then you would only see a single port in the UHD630 section.

It may sound weird but I am actually looking for something that is able to output via the UHD630, so I can connect to an external display under Linux or MacOS.

 

So I checked the NVIDIA Control Panel and it shows 2 DisplayPorts and 1 HDMI port being connected to the GPU (and only one connection is shown for the iGPU). Oddly, the TB3 port is on the opposite side of where the GPU is and there is a regular USB-C port next to the other video outputs that are connected to the GPU.

 

You did mention that GenTech updated you UEFI. Maybe they forgot to flash the EC (embedded controller) too? You're supposed to update both... I guess you could try and see if an EC reset will work (there is a little pinhole on the bottom of the laptop, right next to the 2.5" drive bay). IIRC MSI says to shut down the laptop, remove all peripherals, remove AC power, hold down the EC reset button for 30 seconds, release, wait a minute, then plug AC power back in, then turn the notebook back on.

 

How long do you wait between sleep / resume? Do you have hibernation support enabled or hybrid sleep enable (which switches between normal sleep and hibernate after a set number of hours). I would suggest also checking that your Intel GPU driver is the version on the MSI website. Windows will sometimes overwrite the manufacturer provided driver if it has one available via updates that is newer. Also if you go into the Computer Management application you should have an entry in the Event Viewer with more details about the failure.

Ah, that means the TB3 port is connected to the Nvidia card. This is the same way the WT75 was configured while running in hybrid mode. I did just realize something, though. I probably could have used an eGPU on the TB3 port with a Vega56 or something to get the external display support I wanted. I can't believe I didn't think of this before I sold the WT75..

 

This is probably the case. I updated the BIOS using the UEFI embedded flash utility immediately after updating the EC from inside Windows and mine sleeps just fine. I haven’t had a single BSOD.

 

You sold the WT75? I could have used it How much did you sell it for?

 

What's everyone think of the GT76 so far?

 

@Kevin@GenTechPC

How come you guys don't offer the 9700k or 2070 version of this card? Also anyway we can get it with 16 or 32gb to drop the price a little? Is the 240hz screen G-sync? Is it available with the 9700k? Is there a 9700k/2080 option?

 

I sold it for $2000. After I found out that all RTX cards and the GTX 1080 was not compatible I decided to try a new project.

I am slowly warming up to the GT76. The DT-006 config with 9900k / RTX2080 / FHD for $3999 seems decent although MSI should really be including a three year warranty with all models given the starting price and BGA GPU. It still surprises me that it only supports optimus and does not have a mux switch. Its a shame it appears they didn't set up the CPU PCIe lanes to be 8x for the GPU, 4x for TB3, and 4x for primary M.2 SSD. That would greatly reduce stress on the DMI bus and not reduce performance on the RTX 2080 at all.

 

So update on my blue screen sleep issue. My GT76 is now working normally, but it got fix only after a complete factory reset and reinstallation.
I have no idea what broke sleep functionality the first time over. I just know every BIOS update and reinstallation of drivers did not fix it. Only a full factory reset did the trick.

Update for @B0B - the GT76 is an amazing beast. Too bad benchmarks show the area 51 beating it, but I think if we tweak it and use it's cooling solution it should be able to sustain boost speeds in high-end gaming better. Don't know ... this laptop if future proofing due to the ports, and I love it. Got mine repasted with liquid metal.
One thing annoys me - the current BIOS revoked RAID1, but they promised it will be supported.
The MSI update utility is great, but I liked Gigabyte's better on my old laptop. The dragon center is also ok, though I have not done any overclocking yet.
I play ultra BattlefieldV and Apex for long times and I get no issues of course. Not sure if I'm throttling, but can't feel any in-game stutter at all.

 

Glad to hear you got your GT76 back in a working state. As a quick note, when this kind of thing happens - usually after making a bunch of Windows / driver / application updates - it's tough to isolate the specific thing(s) that caused it.

That's why I recommend using the MSI BurnRecovery to create a recovery flash drive (32GB) and use a fast USB 3.0 device as well - it takes a long time to create and restore even with a fast device.

Once you have this back up of the recovery partition you can restore to a sane out of the box - known to work configuration - to help in situations like this where you don't know if it's a hardware problem in the base device, a problem with an add-on: memory, or storage, or other like a new Wifi / BT device, or a bad Windows Update or driver.

I stop the Windows Updates with O&O Shutup10, Windows Update Blocker (WUB), and Windows Privacy Dashboard (WPD) to disable Windows Updates and Block their network requests.

In the past you could also change your internet device / network to a Metered Connection to stop the uncontrolled Windows Updates, but now I think that's not stopping the Updates any longer.

After you get back into the working state as you are now, and stop all of the automatic updates (not just Windows, also applications that go out on their own for updates), then you can control the changes to your OS and along with Windows System Restore Points + Image backups, like with Macrium Reflect, you can avoid restoring back to the out of the box state, and take an image of a working updated system that you can restore to instead of all the way back to ground zero, out of the box.

Which model GT76 did you get? That will help us know what option configuration you have.

 

@hmscott thanks. I got the 9SG 006, and I usually have no issues with windows updates, I just use preferences to not install them, and I wait weeks before installing just in case.
I already created a recovery thumbdrive, and now that I'm stable I'll redo it.

 

Let's talk cooling pads, even if just for elevation, since I read lots of opinions about effectiveness, and I'd prefer not to question heating results, just to find a good fit for MSI GT76s out there.
On the wish list:

• Lift the laptop at an angle - with GT76 weight and high profile chassis
• Get extra fast ports - USB-C and thuderbolt too much to ask?
• Quiet/large fan

Thanks
JD

 

The main two I have seen recommended are the Thermaltake Massive 20 RGB or the Coolermaster Notepal U3 Plus.

 

I found something to show you what I'm looking for ( amazon link) , but I am searching for the reverse flow of taking the air away to the back for GT76, not the way it is described in the product page.

Edit - I realize I can just let it rest on a surface facing the other way ..

 

With TPL2 at 170w isn’t quite enough to get that sweet 5ghz all Cores. Probably not ideal given the temps during Handbrake but I’m testing anyway.

Seems like these power limits are fairly locked within the factory BIOS.

Am I correct?

 

Anyone able to use the camera on your machine? I just found out mine doesn't work, nor is it recognized by Windows10. I see no device drivers specifically for the camera. Any ideas how to tackle that? or can you tell me the device name of your built-in camera?
Thanks in advance !
JD

 

Yeah mine was the same. I’m away from the machine but just hit F/N + whatever “F” key corresponds (picture of a webcam) with the webcam as it’s factory disabled on mine for some reason.

 

Thank you @B0B you were right.


That F6 is the right key.
Wow ... this camera is grainy ..

 

I have a special place in my heart for the webcam issue. It's been with me since the internet was invented, and will be forever an issue with every MSI laptop that ships with a webcam

 

sorry, replied to wrong post.

 

GT76 Titan DT-090 240Hz i7-9700K/RTX2080/16G/512GB/WIN10PRO
GT76 Titan DT-091 240Hz i7-9700K/RTX2070/16G/512GB/WIN10PRO

No G-sync on GT76 Titan.