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Hello, new to the lounge.
I have had my GT75VR for a couple of weeks and am very happy with it. I seem to have a large delay on my wired Ethernet connection.
When I run it on wireless it loads pages instantly and everything appears.
When I turn off wireless plug it in to the router it loads things very slowly and doesn't load some elements of the page at all (when registering for this forum for example it didn't load the Captcha box).
When I tried to run a Speedtest on the wired connection it took 25 seconds to connect but then ran the Speedtest with a ping on 1ms and a download speed of 43 Mbps. Clearly traffic is getting through but it trickles through for a while and then kicks in.
I still have my MSI GT72 setup next to my new GT75 and the settings for the ethernet seem to be the same.
I have updated the drivers on the Aquantia Ethernet adapter. I have turned off the wifi and disabled it to see whether that helps but it doesn't.

Can someone point me in the direction of the solution if this is a known problem?

Thanks.

 

What driver version are you using?

 

On GPU? 1mm

On CPU? 0.5mm because CPU heatsink is woefully CONVEX. 1mm pads will cause higher core temps on cores 0 and 2 and 4 (depending on how the 6 core is laid out; on the 4 core chips it was core #0 and core #2 if the cores were labeled 0, 1, 2, 3).

 

I am using the
Aquantia
Driver Date 24/04/2018
Version 2.1.5.0

 

What termal pads we should buy from Fujipoly? There are many types XR-M, X-E, G-M...

Also should a 60x50x1.0 pack enough for the gpu and a 60x50x0.5 for cpu? Im getting Gelid Solutions GC-Extreme 8.5W too...

 

Buy Arctic 0.5mm pads for CPU VRM's to stop core 0+2+4 high heat imbalance.
Fujipoly is a waste of money. There's zero benefit to using fujipoly on these instead of Arctic. Plus the fujipoly are brittle and not re-usable. And you get a tiny tiny sheet.
You can get a 145x145mm sheet of Arctic 0.5mm for $10 USD.
But if you're rich and don't care about spending money wisely, go ahead and buy the fujipoly.
It's worth spending extra money on quality thermal paste (like Coolermaster Gel Nano), or Liquid Metal. Not on overpriced thermal pads which have no benefit.

I would ONLY buy overpriced thermal pads if you were using GPU TDP overclocking like trying to run a MSI 1070 at 250W TDP (Then you need it).

 

Is the KINGSTON HyperX IMPACT DDR4 2666 CL15 compatible in the GT75 TITAN 8RF-051CA?
Part Number: HX426S15IB2/8
https://www.kingston.com/dataSheets/HX426S15IB2_8.pdf

 

Ok thanks, my last termal pads on GT72VR was Artic 1.0mm and in my country i can get easily...can use Artic for both(1mm for gpu and 0.5mm for cpu) chips? Also, getting Gelid not worth if i can get Coolermaster Gel Nano?

Edit: Only can find CM MasterGel "Maker" NANO, is that the right termal paste?

 

Yes that's it. "Nano" is the key word

 

I am shocked, the coolermaster nano stuff is available here too, they increased the assortiment of imported stuff I will order some and toss the gelid. Tho I won't be putting it on right away, have to look real sweet at the bf to put it on for me.

 

I checked the website of artic and they sell to europe

 

The Kingston should work but question from my side.
Did you replace the memory or want you add it? In case of adding it don't forget that the gt75 only supports the first two slot with 2666 and max 32GB of memory if you add memory to the two free slots the mhz will reduce to 2400mhz.

 

GT75 7RF is 2335€ — 7820HK Cpu
GT75 8RG is 3499€ — 8850H Cpu

More than a 1000€ difference for a Cpu. Everything is same apart from that. Which one would you choose?

 

You think that Artic MX-4 is also a good termal paste? Im asking that because since i will buy the termal pads from Artic website i could recieve all the products from same place.

 

Shouldn't be comparing a locked down chip with a HK BGA.
Only compare 8950HK and 7820HK. 6 core unlocked vs 4 core unlocked.
Side grade comparisons simply don't make sense.

 

According to specification it seems to have the same thermal conductivity as the gelid gc extreme... but the coolermaster has more.

 

I thought the 8850H was partially unlocked? I mean, unless one wants to go liquid metal anything beyond it has no point anyway...

Either way I would say that the 8850H isn't worth that 1k extra... If you OC the 7820hk it will do the job just fine for any game out there. Also I see you have an asus with the same specs in your signature... not happy with it? If it runs ok I would just keep it and wait for the next gen gpu's...

 

Ok, i will go anyways with coolermaster gel, then i will left feedback...you have much difference between cores?

 

I haven't repasted the cpu yet so my measurements for it are irrelevant atm haha. But actually I don't have much difference between them. Maybe 3 or 4 degrees between coolest and hottest?
Edit: nvm, core 2 is actually a bit hotter than the rest, making it up to 6 degrees between that and core 5. Given that all cores level off at around 3.6GHz after a while of testing with 90W steady power draw. I still don't think it's that bad, my fan doesn't ramp up too much and keeps around 80C (84 max on core 2).
But since I never run anything remotely close to prime95 in my usage, I am very happy with how the cpu performs.

 

Hello Heliada,

Thank you for the answer.

I HAD G701VIK. Unfortunately some irritating problems made me do RMAs and I got a 100% refund from my previous laptop. Now I am looking Asus and MSI together. MSI GT75 with 7820HK has a really nice price and it is tempting. However, I have some questions. I hope you and other people can answer to them.

One of the most important topic is a ''fan noise'' for me. For this reason I have been choosing Asus for my last 2 laptops. I was very satisfied although G701VIK was loud enough if I play games at ultra but it was perfectly silent at idle after undervolting and quite silent if I play old games such as Age of Empires III, etc.

I really want to try MSI but each review I read complains about the fan noise. Since I am not from US, I don't have chances to make modifications such as bottom panel ventilation or liquid metal etc. and to be honest I don't want to. The maximum I want to do is undervolting.

Can MSI GT75VR with 7820hk be dead silent with undervolting at idle while browsing on the internet with many tabs, etc? Or if I lock V-Sync and decrease the shadows of a game + without AA, can I get decent fan noise?

Waiting for the next generation GPU is another option but there is no decent news on that and I can not guess the new prices as it increases quite much with each model in Europe.

Thanks

 

I feel slight even sound from fans better than dead silence and then an accelerating fan burst. My GT70 is dead silent with those symptoms if I tweak the fan curve too low. But preferably I keep the fan at steady 1300+ rpm which is almost silent. The same concerns to my GT73VR, too. Better a whisper than silence with noise bursts.

 

Whisper is good so do you set your fan speed manually?

GT73VR has nicer results at fan noise as far as I read from the reviews. I could go for it if I found one with a cheaper price tag.

 

So I've had this problem from the beginning and was hoping someone could help me solve it. Whenever I close/open the laptop lid to use an external monitor or press any of the shortcut buttons (like the Steelseries app button), I get this error. Not a big deal as I click through it but it does prevent the apps from launching. Has anyone seen this before?

 

Uninstall SCM from Control Panel > Programs & Features

then reboot

Now, download the latest SCM and install it

Before unzipping the file that you just downloaded, right click on it, go to properties, hit the unblock button on the bottom right since this file came from the internet then hit Apply then OK. If you don't do this then all the files that you are about to extract will also have a blocked status leading to a lot of issues.

MSI System Control Manager v13.018.06221

Don't forget to reboot again after you install SCM then say if your problem goes away

 

On automatic fans, the fan speed will not kick up on the CPU until 70C and will not become audible until 80C.
On the GPU, this happens at 65C then the next step at 76C. Assuming the fan curves were not changed on GT75VR compared to GT73VR. So I can't say for certain that's where it ramps up.

You can use "MSI SILENT OPTION" skylake version to tweak this, however keep in mind that this program was actually made for the Haswell era MSI systems, and the skylake version has strange fan ramp speeds. setting 95% fan speed (max is 150% in the program but the real max is MUCH lower on your laptop.) is actually MAX SPEED.

 

I want to replace what comes in the notebook with 4x8GB. Its a bit more expensive for 4 sticks over 2x16 sticks, but the heat generated from 4 is considerably less than 2x16GB. I'm not going over 32GB.
HyperX 2400 8GB CL14 = 11.67ns
HyperX 2666 8GB CL15 = 11.25ns
Whichever is the best deal, there really isn't much difference (.42ns) and is less than 4% speed difference.

So this brings me to the next question as well, is the XMP automatically 'ON' or do you have to enter the BIOS and turn it on?

 

How is the heat generated from 4 sticks less than the heat generated from 2 larger sticks?

 

Well, I think I will risk and buy one of these giant monsters. I am sure I can somehow make it reasonably silent.

What is your undervolting settings? How far can you go with your GT73VR?

 

I figured since I just cleaned my desk I could share what my gaming setup at home looks like (yes it's a little messy) ^^ Next time I will just build a nice watercooled pc and get something actually portable alongside it since I use it as a pc at home anyway. But since I can't sell the gt75 for a nice price, I will see it till the end of its life (hopefully a few years from now). I mean, I pretty much laugh people in the face when they offer 1000 euro for it. Just the damn gpu is worth more than that.

 

Ok that fixed it. Thanks @Phoenix !

 

Be smart....be like Phoenix...

 

1) Buy or obtain yourself a Non-Contact IR Heat Gun or anything similar.
2) Do the test yourself.
3) Report your finding back here.

 

Are you going mail me the 2x16GB sticks? Or did you expect me to pay for them myself?

 

You have one of the best laptops

If you want a silent laptop, you not should choose a 6 cores cpu...nothing more to say.

 

DIY ....

 

Having another issue I suspect is related to the LAN port on the laptop. I seem to get random 5-10 seconds of complete network connectivity loss. It isn't often but annoying enough while trying to play online games. This is just while using the LAN port as I do not experience this when using wireless. Just wondering if this is a known issue otherwise I'll follow up with a detailed post on the symptoms and my trouble shooting so far.

 

thats why I will go with 4 core one. much cheaper as well

 

Did you update the drivers?
I remember some people complaining about this EXACT issue on the GT75VR, which I believe uses the same LAN port. The GT73VR uses the Killer/Qualcomm chip.

 

You seriously need to start updating your drivers to the ones in this thread, you probably have ancient drivers because MSI ships their laptops with extinct drivers that aren't even compatible with the latest build of Windows!

MSI GT75 TITAN Drivers

 

Ok my bad. I didn't realize the drivers were not updated when I had them do the fresh install of windows. I'll start working on this now. Thanks again guys.

EDIT: Seems the Aquantia LAN and Killer WLAN drivers are already on their most current version.

 

halo guys .. i new member in this forum ...

I need som sugestions or answer .. perhaps sory for my bad english

i just want to buy new msi GT75 8RF with GTX 1070 and coffelake processor .. But some reason i just bothering with the rummor GTX 11 series launch next month ..

i just want to ask can this note book upgrade to new GTX 11 GPU via MXM slot in the future ? mybe GTX 1170 ..

plz answer hehehe

 

After several times, i still have much difference between cores...already sand the HS and many repastes…

https://imgur.com/a/dJeMzNr

Im still waiting for the Artic pads and CM Gel Nano, could be the Noctua termal paste the problem? In the first day, the temperatures are fine, but in the second day it seems to me that due to the high viscosity of the Noctua, the paste disappears completely from the cpu to outside.... any idea what the problem might be?

 

There seems to be a technique to assembly - pressure on one part or another - specific pressure on the heatplate while tightening - and order of tightening of the screws - that is required to get clean core temp differential results.

There were many complaints such as yours a while back, but I haven't seen any descriptions of how to do it "right", nor many others mentioning doing their own re-paste.

There are boutique vendor tech's that re-paste the GT75 - as an option at purchase, maybe they can provide some insight for those stuck doing it themselves?

Until then I'd recommend doing your best to tune via software first, undervolt CPU / GPU, fan curves, RTSS frame limiter, external environment tuning - lift the rear higher than the front, with both front and rear off the desk to decouple heat load,

Exhaust all avenues of software tuning before pulling the heatplate off of the CPU.

Be sure and test the core temperature differential values before re-pasting to see if there is a problem before or only a problem after.

If there is no core temperature differential before re-pasting, there shouldn't need to be any sanding of components required to get the same results after re-pasting - unless the re-assembly has a trick to it to get even pressure across the heatplate.

If you are using prime95 to load the cores for testing core temperature differential, make sure you have disabled AVX (/ FMA) as you won't get even temps with those enabled.
http://www.mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=21462

 

Yeah, i saw guys like @Ivan994 and @GENOCID fixing the problem on Gt73VR, but this is a 6 core cpu so i dont know :/

 

If you are using prime95 to load the cores for testing core temperature differential, make sure you have disabled AVX (/ FMA) as you won't get even temps with those enabled.
http://www.mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=21462

 

Im using games like Mafia 3, AC: Origins and GTA V...that for me are the most demand on my laptop.

 

You can't get a good reading for core temp differential with varying loads across the cores...as the 0 core will get most load, and widely varying load across the cores / threads.

Using prime95 with AVX/FMA disabled the cores will load up evenly as possible - threads will overlap and exit / restart at varying times, keeping even load across all threads.

Running prime95 small fft for a few minutes should be enough to get a good reading. Run 100% fans for best cooling when running prime95.

Be sure and click the Reset button on hwinfo64, or exit to restart it to get a clean reading. Otherwise previous low / high readings will persist from previous processes.

Make sure you have closed all other apps and games so they don't wake up and load the first few cores skewing results.

 

Next time you tear down the heatsink post screenshoot of your current paste job (both from the die and Heatsink).

 

Is it normal for GTA 5 (1080p ultra settings) to maintain only 60 fps(doesnt go above that at all)
and have some frame drops while playing it on

MSI GT75 TITAN 8RG
I9 8950 HK
GTX 1080 8GB GDDR5X
32 GB RAM

It sometimes drops to 28 and stuff

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Did you have an repaste GT75?
All drivers are up to date?