skip the Dragon Center, that way, when you remove the power plug, the laptop doesn't automatically switch to the power saver plan AND you are in control of your CPU clocks/voltages. The Dragon Center limits you to a 4.1 GHz overclock for safety reasons even though your temps might be fine with clocks above that. I also hate how the Dragon Center keeps setting my VR Current Limit to Auto randomly. Having it at random will throttle the CPU but keeping it at 100A (a 400 value in the BIOS) prevents any throttling
That's about the only thing I skip along with the MSI Help Desk. The rest are fine like True Color oh and also, if you have no need for changing the DPI Scaling on your screen, you can skip the MSI Sizing Options tool.
Be sure to grab the latest drivers from this thread, they are also the same for the GT75VR except that the GT73VR Titan Pro doesn't use the Atlantis LAN Driver so just download that off your laptop's driver support page:
MSI GT73VR TITAN PRO Drivers
Be smart....be like Phoenix....![]()
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If it doesn't work, I'll just have to live with it. =D
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There are 3 more green dead pixels at a certain angle around the first one, and then I found a black dead pixel in the upper right corner of the screen. Not going to lose sleep over it.Last edited: Jan 5, 2018Donald@Paladin44, Vistar Shook and hmscott like this. -
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Argh that stupid laptop is killing me!
Now the i have BSOD when i try to update to 1709!
Jesus!!!
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Played GTA V (3 hours) and Company Of Heroes 2 (5 hours) for 8 hours straight, and I'm very surprised with cooling of this laptop. Max load came just 70C. Stock paste/pads.
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So now when I turn the laptop ON, auto repair fails with this message: D\WINDOWS\System32\logfiles\Srt\Srttrail.txt
I tried then Advanced settings: If I click on "continue" it just reboots and the auto repair fails again.
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Install Memtest86 v7.4 ( https://www.memtest86.com/) on a USB flash drive (since you can't get into windows, install it using another computer) and either boot it in UEFI mode or legacy mode and run a full test on your RAM. UEFI mode is known to take a few minutes to boot however.
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Um you already know how to do that right? I saw you posting in the Pascal thread (I thought).
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Just read the pascal modding thread in the Clevo section.
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No, the pascal bios editor. Please read the thread.
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You can install any operating system you want. Installing OS's does not void your warranty. You could even install windows 95 + MS DOS if you wanted to
. Your windows key is embedded in the Bios if it came with windows 10 home by default. I can't help with OS questions, though.
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Really it dos'ent? Even since it wype the MSI factory reset?
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Factory reset doesn't erase embedded Bios windows keys. That's stored as part of the factory defaults. Unless you manually erase them yourself.
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When you boot of the Windows 10 USB Install Disk, it won't even ask you for a product key as it'll automatically pick it up from the BIOSPapusan, Donald@Paladin44, J4ck974 and 2 others like this. -
https://www.partitionwizard.com/clone-disk/cant-install-fall-creators-update.html
Could be why my buddy told me the laptop worked perfectly when he tested it (he did'nt update W10) but why it's not working and keep getting BSOD with me. Since I'm trying to update Windows 10 to 1709.
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I noticed several resellers except HIDEvolution list the GT75VR screen as NOT G-sync capable. Does HIDEvolution swap in their own G-sync ready displays or are the other sellers just not listing the stock screen as G-sync capable?
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Decided to buy the GT75 with 7820HK, GTx 1080, and the 120hz panel. One thing I missed, the -202 model doesn’t come with a freakin SSD! What’s the easiest way to move the windows installation from the HDD to a new SSD I’m going to pop in there ?
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Samsung and other brands come with or have for download cloning software to do just that.
I use Macrium Reflect to clone drive to drive, with automatic or manual growing or shrinking for destination partitions, with the option of dropping some partitions from the original as part of the cloning.
Or use the Macrium Reflect clone to image file to back it up.
The free version does everything you need, but it's nice to support them and buy it when you can. Here is the free version page:
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You can continue to use Macrium Reflect as you install apps and configure it as you like to restore directly to the latest version of your OS, while MSI BurnRecovery only restores the original pristine out of the box OS Image.
It's sometimes very handy to have the MSI BurnRecovery flash drive around for a sanity check - like when some hardware isn't working right, or you keep crashing and can't figure out why. I keep it taped to the inside of the laptop box so I don't lose it, or be tempted to use the USB drive on another project.
You can put in a spare drive and restore the out of the box OS onto it so you can boot it up and see if the problem goes away. And, then you can avoid RMA, or be ready for it - vendors like to have their OS build installed for RMA - it rules out OS and other installed software issues causing the problems. Also a good reason to keep the original OS HDD intact on the shelf to swap in for testing, RMA, and eventual resale.
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will a regular M.2 2280 SSD fit and work in the m.2 slots on the GT75?Last edited: Jan 16, 2018hmscott likes this. -
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Thanks everyone. Last question, how’s the brightness on the 120hz panel? I like very bright displays and some reviews rate it below average for brightness levels
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As the drives are pretty cheap I put my original boot drive (puny 120 GB) away to serve as backup (after cloning OS to SSD) and replaced it with a larger drive. And I really needed that backup drive once so far.
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The panel is very bright. Stop worrying so much. Are you trying to use the laptop outside in the sun in broad daylight or something?
Nits is based on MAXIMUM Brightness. That is, a brightness that can cause eye damage. My Benq monitor is 300 nits at maximum but that's bright enough to be uncomfortable and can cause vision damage if use at such brightness for extended periods of time. That's at 100% brightness. I usually keep my Benq at *20%* brightness for normal viewing, and if there's too much ambient light, I may go to 40. -
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Thanks, I’ll be using this laptop indoors only. Also, does the 120hz panel support gsync? I see msi does not have GSync listed anywhere for the -202 model I bought -
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Been omitted for over a year now on multiple newer models. When the GT73VR came out, the panel supported gsync, but there was no official certification from Nvidia or something, yet it still worked. There was a massive firestorm over gsync support in the GT72VR Dominator Pro, because not only was it not advertised as supporting gsync, when people asked MSI, they said 'no', then some resellers said yes, and other resellers simply read the specs and said "no". And it took people buying the units and taking screenshots of the Gsync panel for proof it worked.
I don't know who is at fault here, Nvidia or MSI, although I suspect MSI. Rifts between the engineering team and marketing team are a lot more common than you can believe. But one thing you can count on is HIDevolution's and Donald's honesty.
They even corrected on their own end, the ESS Sabre issue, where the Hm175 chipset models (of both the GT73 and GT75) do NOT have the hifi board, while the CM238 chipset versions do. Yet MSI's own marketing site seems to imply that all versions of the GT75 have the hifi board, when in fact they do not, causing some confusion among resellers. It even caused confusion here, with some people thinking the chipset version you buy does not matter, when in fact, it does matter. The HM175 units cannot drive high impedence headphones very well. So maybe the blame should be on MSI.Papusan and Spartan@HIDevolution like this. -
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The transition of the GT73VR from CM238 to HM175 occurred beginning in July of 2017. The CM238 models began to phase out at that time.
The GT75VR was released in August of 2017, and has always had the CM238 and ESS Sabre HiFi.
All GT7x model series have always had G-Sync support.
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Just received my GT75 today and it is perfect. Got rid of MSI true color and that made the screen extremely bright. Keyboard is best in its class. Cloning to my SSD right now and will test more tonight
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