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skip the Dragon Center, that way, when you remove the power plug, the laptop doesn't automatically switch to the power saver plan AND you are in control of your CPU clocks/voltages. The Dragon Center limits you to a 4.1 GHz overclock for safety reasons even though your temps might be fine with clocks above that. I also hate how the Dragon Center keeps setting my VR Current Limit to Auto randomly. Having it at random will throttle the CPU but keeping it at 100A (a 400 value in the BIOS) prevents any throttling

That's about the only thing I skip along with the MSI Help Desk. The rest are fine like True Color oh and also, if you have no need for changing the DPI Scaling on your screen, you can skip the MSI Sizing Options tool.

Be sure to grab the latest drivers from this thread, they are also the same for the GT75VR except that the GT73VR Titan Pro doesn't use the Atlantis LAN Driver so just download that off your laptop's driver support page:

MSI GT73VR TITAN PRO Drivers

Be smart....be like Phoenix....

 

I got it as a special case from MSI. They didn't offer the GT75VR at first, then something happened to my GT80, so they offered the GT75VR.

Glad I took the offer.

Will do.

If it doesn't work, I'll just have to live with it. =D

Edit:

There are 3 more green dead pixels at a certain angle around the first one, and then I found a black dead pixel in the upper right corner of the screen. Not going to lose sleep over it.

 

You can use bloatware free edition by Phoenix.

 

That is discontinued long back unfortunately. Windows 10 has had radical changes that the MSMG toolkit no longer works 100% error free on int

 

Argh that stupid laptop is killing me!
Now the i have BSOD when i try to update to 1709!
Jesus!!!

Edit: So I managed to update Windows to the 1709 then I had a BSOD while i was quitting my game. Now I'm stuck on a black screen during boot.. just like the old days

 

Mine had that too. Massage it out gently. Mine never came back and works flawless now. I also traded my GT80 for the GT75. So far, I like the GT75VR. I think I still prefer the GT80's keyboard, but the GT75 isn't bad at all.

 

Should I massage it out while the monitor is on or off

 

Played GTA V (3 hours) and Company Of Heroes 2 (5 hours) for 8 hours straight, and I'm very surprised with cooling of this laptop. Max load came just 70C. Stock paste/pads.

 

So now when I turn the laptop ON, auto repair fails with this message: D\WINDOWS\System32\logfiles\Srt\Srttrail.txt
I tried then Advanced settings: If I click on "continue" it just reboots and the auto repair fails again.
I tried troubleshooting and nothing seems to worked, reseting windows fails, restore MSI factory setting fails too and even rebooting in safe mod fails. In other word I can't do anything.

 

Time for an RMA.

 

The laptop came back from RMA yersterday

 

Install Memtest86 v7.4 ( https://www.memtest86.com/) on a USB flash drive (since you can't get into windows, install it using another computer) and either boot it in UEFI mode or legacy mode and run a full test on your RAM. UEFI mode is known to take a few minutes to boot however.

 

How do I mod my TDP to full desktop power?

 

Um you already know how to do that right? I saw you posting in the Pascal thread (I thought).

 

i don't recall

 

Just read the pascal modding thread in the Clevo section.

 

You're talking about the Svet Mod for BIOS/vBIOS.

 

No, the pascal bios editor. Please read the thread.

 

ah. well, i haven't see that thread before.

 

So is the second upgrade that they promised also off the table? Some people skipped the Pascal offer to wait for Volta. They are just FUBAR then? Ouch.

 

No, they are not fubar. Understand that if you originally bought a qualifying model that had a 2 upgrade path, that is still available to you. However there is no upgrade path through the trade in program if you originally bought a Pascal laptop.

 

I did mine with it on. You start outside of the dot about the size of a quarter and gently massage it in a circular motion and make sure your hands are clean or use a soft cleaning cloth (preferred). Pressure wise - about as soft/hard as you'd typically use a touch screen smart phone/tablet. It doesn't always work, but I've notice on newer production screens that it seem to help some of those stuck pixels.

 

Thank you, I will give it a try as soon as I can.

Got a question: What if I decide to reinstall Windows with the Media creation tool? Will it void my warranty? Will I loose my Windows's license?

 

You can install any operating system you want. Installing OS's does not void your warranty. You could even install windows 95 + MS DOS if you wanted to . Your windows key is embedded in the Bios if it came with windows 10 home by default. I can't help with OS questions, though.

 

Really it dos'ent? Even since it wype the MSI factory reset?

 

Factory reset doesn't erase embedded Bios windows keys. That's stored as part of the factory defaults. Unless you manually erase them yourself.

 

no, I've wiped the bloated MSI Factory install since day one.

When you boot of the Windows 10 USB Install Disk, it won't even ask you for a product key as it'll automatically pick it up from the BIOS

 

https://www.partitionwizard.com/clone-disk/cant-install-fall-creators-update.html

Could be why my buddy told me the laptop worked perfectly when he tested it (he did'nt update W10) but why it's not working and keep getting BSOD with me. Since I'm trying to update Windows 10 to 1709.
Maybe I should trade the NVME SSD for a regular one to give it a try.

 

I noticed several resellers except HIDEvolution list the GT75VR screen as NOT G-sync capable. Does HIDEvolution swap in their own G-sync ready displays or are the other sellers just not listing the stock screen as G-sync capable?

 

All the FHD 120Hz screens are GSYNC. Some resellers don't list it officially because even MSI doesn't advertise the screen as GSYNC on their site (I won't go into why but that is how it is)

 

Decided to buy the GT75 with 7820HK, GTx 1080, and the 120hz panel. One thing I missed, the -202 model doesn’t come with a freakin SSD! What’s the easiest way to move the windows installation from the HDD to a new SSD I’m going to pop in there ?

 

MSI comes with it's own MSI BurnRecovery, that lets you create a 32GB USB 3.0 bootable flash drive that will restore the out of the box OS image onto a new drive. Just get the flash drive, create it through the MSI BurnRecovery program, then pull the HDD and put in your boot SSD single or RAID and boot on the USB drive to restore to the new SSD(s).

Samsung and other brands come with or have for download cloning software to do just that.

I use Macrium Reflect to clone drive to drive, with automatic or manual growing or shrinking for destination partitions, with the option of dropping some partitions from the original as part of the cloning.

Or use the Macrium Reflect clone to image file to back it up.

The free version does everything you need, but it's nice to support them and buy it when you can. Here is the free version page:
https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree

 

Thanks. Looks like I can Use MSI burn recovery to make a recovery disc and just install to SSD as well? Will the embedded windows key carry over ok?

 

Yup, and I recommend doing both MSI BurnRecovery and Macrium Reflect image.

You can continue to use Macrium Reflect as you install apps and configure it as you like to restore directly to the latest version of your OS, while MSI BurnRecovery only restores the original pristine out of the box OS Image.

It's sometimes very handy to have the MSI BurnRecovery flash drive around for a sanity check - like when some hardware isn't working right, or you keep crashing and can't figure out why. I keep it taped to the inside of the laptop box so I don't lose it, or be tempted to use the USB drive on another project.

You can put in a spare drive and restore the out of the box OS onto it so you can boot it up and see if the problem goes away. And, then you can avoid RMA, or be ready for it - vendors like to have their OS build installed for RMA - it rules out OS and other installed software issues causing the problems. Also a good reason to keep the original OS HDD intact on the shelf to swap in for testing, RMA, and eventual resale.

BTW, I already added the MSI BurnRecovery suggestion to my original post as you were editing your response, refresh the page to see it

 

will a regular M.2 2280 SSD fit and work in the m.2 slots on the GT75?

 

Yes, two of the M.2 slots support either SATA or PCIe NVMe SSDs and the 3rd will support a SATA SSD only.

2280 is the correct size.

 

Thanks everyone. Last question, how’s the brightness on the 120hz panel? I like very bright displays and some reviews rate it below average for brightness levels

 

http://www.panelook.com/N173HHE-G32_Innolux_17.3_LCM_overview_28924.html

 

When installing Windows, you won't even be prompted to enter a product key because the Windows installer will read the key that's injected in your motherboard's BIOS and proceed to install and activate just fine the moment you go online.

 

You can use Macrium Reflect to clone the whole partition on your HDD onto the SSD and once you confirm that you're able to boot fine from the SSD, just format the HDD and use it as a storage drive

 

As the drives are pretty cheap I put my original boot drive (puny 120 GB) away to serve as backup (after cloning OS to SSD) and replaced it with a larger drive. And I really needed that backup drive once so far.

 

Oh boy, 270nits for the luminance is horrible ! May have to cancel this order then, some other reviews of this panel claim over 300, I can’t get a straight answer on this one

 

The panel is very bright. Stop worrying so much. Are you trying to use the laptop outside in the sun in broad daylight or something?
Nits is based on MAXIMUM Brightness. That is, a brightness that can cause eye damage. My Benq monitor is 300 nits at maximum but that's bright enough to be uncomfortable and can cause vision damage if use at such brightness for extended periods of time. That's at 100% brightness. I usually keep my Benq at *20%* brightness for normal viewing, and if there's too much ambient light, I may go to 40.

 

Thanks, I’ll be using this laptop indoors only. Also, does the 120hz panel support gsync? I see msi does not have GSync listed anywhere for the -202 model I bought

 

Yes, it does support G-Sync.

 

Weird that they omit that info, wonder why

 

Been omitted for over a year now on multiple newer models. When the GT73VR came out, the panel supported gsync, but there was no official certification from Nvidia or something, yet it still worked. There was a massive firestorm over gsync support in the GT72VR Dominator Pro, because not only was it not advertised as supporting gsync, when people asked MSI, they said 'no', then some resellers said yes, and other resellers simply read the specs and said "no". And it took people buying the units and taking screenshots of the Gsync panel for proof it worked.

I don't know who is at fault here, Nvidia or MSI, although I suspect MSI. Rifts between the engineering team and marketing team are a lot more common than you can believe. But one thing you can count on is HIDevolution's and Donald's honesty.

They even corrected on their own end, the ESS Sabre issue, where the Hm175 chipset models (of both the GT73 and GT75) do NOT have the hifi board, while the CM238 chipset versions do. Yet MSI's own marketing site seems to imply that all versions of the GT75 have the hifi board, when in fact they do not, causing some confusion among resellers. It even caused confusion here, with some people thinking the chipset version you buy does not matter, when in fact, it does matter. The HM175 units cannot drive high impedence headphones very well. So maybe the blame should be on MSI.

 

Slight correction here.

The transition of the GT73VR from CM238 to HM175 occurred beginning in July of 2017. The CM238 models began to phase out at that time.

The GT75VR was released in August of 2017, and has always had the CM238 and ESS Sabre HiFi.

All GT7x model series have always had G-Sync support.

All GT73VR models with the CM238 have ESS Sabre HiFi.

 

Just received my GT75 today and it is perfect. Got rid of MSI true color and that made the screen extremely bright. Keyboard is best in its class. Cloning to my SSD right now and will test more tonight

 

Congrats on your purchase! Seems like you are pretty happy with it so far.