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    The Official MSI GT73VR Owners and Discussions Lounge

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Aug 16, 2016.

  1. Mobius 1

    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Does anyone here have the complete spec sheet for all of the US SKU this laptop model? There's crapton of variations and I'm trying to find the screen information on them.


    @Tanner@XoticPC @pat@XOTICPC @GenTechPC

    GT73VR TITAN-003 (6820HK/1080/16GB/128SSD)
    GT73VR 6RF Titan Pro-201US (6820HK/1080/64GB/1TB SSD)


    They both say that the display is FHD, but which FHD is it?


    Thanks in advance.
     
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    Thanks for the reply. That's very helpful. I did have one last question for you or anyone who has this laptop. And it's not really about the laptop, but could you recommend a laptop bag for this beast? I know it's rather large and people have said the bags they've used for other 17" laptops won't fit this.
     
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    I bought this one from ebay

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/FreeBiz-18-...-18-Inch-Gaming-Laptops-for-Del-/322195625357

    Can easily fit this laptop and lots of other stuff......
     
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    They all use the same screen, which is Chi Mei N173HHE-G32 (CMN1747) .

    Is that what you were asking?
     
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    What's the refresh rate and response time? Is it the FHD 120hz 5ms that MSi advertises?
     
  6. Kevin

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    The only FHD screen shipping in the GT73 is the 120Hz Chi Mei.
     
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    Is it also 5ms?
     
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    I have searched all over the internet but i have not found an answer to the following question and was hoping this forum can help.
    Do you think ill have any problems running a M.2 Sata 850 EVO SSD in the 3rd M.2 Sata only slot, in raid 0 with a 2.5 inch 850 EVO in the 2.5 inch drive bay slot? Some of my concerns are the GT73VR's raid controller doesn't support this or even if i could do it, that it would stress the CPU. I think that having two NVME drives in raid 0 requires some sort of special software or something, would i need that for this to? Is it even practical?
     
  9. Kevin

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    That's Chi Mei's claim.

    Notebook Check measured it at 6.8ms.
     
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    Pretty decent then, I don't mind 6.8ms.



    Thanks!



    Still waiting for the complete spec variation sheet.
     
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    This machine is a beast so far. Temps are unbelievable, performance is excellent as a result... very positive feelings and impressions from the get go.

    Except for windows 10, as I had to perform the anniversary update and it felt like forever. Other than that, and uninstalling/tweaking the OS/apps, this has been the best laptop I've ever owned. It even topped off by a mile my #1 fav, the old GX660R.
     
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    Does it use hybrid power? I heard reports that one of the SKUs at least uses hybrid power.
     
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    I believe it does, though I am not 100% certain yet. I have seen my battery drop about 5% so far, so it might be using it. I will test this later to see how much power it draws and if that power changes when overclocking etc.
     
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    That's outrageous. Having to use hybrid power at stock settings is absurd, especially now that MSI has started using dual PSUs. What GPU(s) and PSU(s) do you have?
     
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    6820HK+1080 on single 330w PSU. But I am still not sure its using hybrid power. Ran a couple of gaming tests for a 20mins with full GPU load and didnt drop a single %. I'll have to check how/when/why my battery dropped those 5%.
     
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    Hmm still not convinced this has any hybrid power going on...

    Firestrike loops on stock GPU got me a max consumption of 257w using killawatt. This was raised to 263w after overclocking the GPU to +170/200.

    With the same OC, playing the witcher 3 fully maxed out without vsync and unlimited fps, consumed a max of 277W.

    My battery didn't really dropped from those tests. So maybe we are fine?

    Any other ideas how to push this?
     
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    I really don't get why MSI is shipping the 1070 model with the 230W PSU.

    I need to acquire the 330W one that ships with the 1080 SKU.
     
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    The GT73VR-017 I ordered from GenTechPC came with 330w. I assumed they all did.
     
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    Hmm even Gentech's page says it comes with a 230W PSU, XoticPC's does as well.

    Even MSI.com's GT73VR TITAN-017 page says 230W, which is why I was so sure it came with one.

    Is it possible all of the listings are in error?

    Yo @GenTechPC can you confirm this for us?
     
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    I think mine is 230w after I did a search on the adapter model number. That kind of tics me off. One of the reasons I bought from @GenTechPC was they listed a 330w power supply. Even my receipt says a 330w power supply.
     
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    Does anyone have any experience using ubuntu via virtualbox on this Computer? I tried it and it failed miserably. Actually while installing the OS, the whole Computer almost freezed.. I mean even the mouse cursor started to lag and programs began to crash until I eventually force restarted (via powerbutton) the whole Computer. After restart I got some random error code...
     
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    Hi Guys,

    I'd been following this thread for sometime before buying my very own MSI laptop over the weekend. So far I am very pleased with it. Mine's a GT73VR 6RF with 1080 and FHD screen.
    Today was stress test day and I noticed something odd when using the Turbo mode in Dragon Center. Basically when enabling turbo mode, the CPU core clock increased from 3.17 to 3.97. Fair enough. That makes sense. When running Prime95 and FurMark together (for my stress test), I noticed the CPU core clock drop immediately from 3.97 back to 3.17 again. Is this correct? Unfortunately I do not know enough to understand what is going on here. Have any of you experienced the same kind of behavior with your rigs?

    Many thanks,
    Wilma.
     
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    Yes that is normal. Prime95 runs to the absolute max of the CPU and it hits a wall with current drawn. It is a current limit, mine drops to 3.4ghz with prime95. The thing is, prime95 is not representative of actual CPU load so you shouldn't hit any of those limits when gaming for the most part. I will investigate about raising the current limit and test again.

    I'd say both prime95 and furmark are not really representative of anything. You are better off loading games to test :)
     
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    Does virtual box require something enabled in bios like vt-d? I haven't used any virtual machine on mine and I doubt I will but I don't see why it couldn't/ Does it have to be virtual box? you can probably try vmware.
     
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    You can simply read your adapter. Multiply the output voltage by the output current and that will give you the wattage. if you ordered an additional PSU or changed your PSU order from their page, be sure to contact them after finding out your current wattage.
     
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    Yeah, it's 230. 19.5v, 11.8 amps. The model number is ADP-230EB. The 330w is 19.5v-16.9a. and ADP-330AB.

    And 330w on my receipt.
     
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    you are right and sorry to hear that, I just checked the adopter comes with my laptop and it says 19.5v-16.9a. and ADP-330AB.

    You should contact the re-seller

    but there are 2 models of GT73VR, one is with GTX1070 and GTX 1080 and I think GTX 1070 model needs less power then GTX 1080. or may be not.
     
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    FWIW my 1070 came with a 230W adapter. I posted some measurements that I got from a Kilawatt tool earlier in the thread.
     
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    Would you mind posting those again? They'll be tough to find in 113 pages.
     
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    It was back on page 65, I pasted from that post, I'm not home now but if a few days I'm going to measure the wattage with my full OC and see what happens.

    Wattage info:

    Idle was about 38W to 49W
    Surfing the web is around 54W
    Comfort mode with a 5 minute prime95 run was around 118W
    Turbo Mode with both Furmark and Prime 95 running was around 216W.
    During Firestrike different segments had different power draws. First=part was 203W, Graphics test 1 @ 2 were 196W, the physics test was 115W and the combined was from 211W to 221W
     
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    Yes, there was an error and we corrected it.
    It's 230W for GTX 1070.
     
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    Hey guys
    Is the minedisplay port on this laptop V1.1 or V1.2 ?
    I want to buy a 4k external screen but the HDMI cable can just does the 4K @30 Hrz
    I want the 4K@ 60Hrz
    Thanks
     
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    Can someone recommend a tool to do a benchmark test of my SSD drive in my gt73vr?

    I had one on my desktop but it's in storage(house flooded from hurricane Matthew) and I can't remember the name of that tool
     
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    I use CrystalDiskMark.
     
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    Just fixed my old Alienware m17x r3 by replacing the graphics card. Noticed the new Alienwares don't support MXM graphics cards anymore!? Even happier with my conversion to MSI as it supports MXM slot. Anyone aware for the possibility of future GPU upgrades?
     
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    Yeah, with the current vbios and the way the new GPUs constantly limit their power/voltage and adjusts clocks on the fly, without overclocking I hardly see consumption over 250w, and this is with a 4Ghz OC on the CPU. the GTX1070 should consume less.

    Although my idle consumption was 25w (literally idle, as in I left the laptop on and went to do other stuff ahaha).

    One thing I did notice though, after turning off the machine, I still registered about 0.6 to 1w of power consumption. This might explain the battery drops between days, waking up to 99 or 98% instead of 100%. Might be related to windows?

    I have the Gt73VR with 1080 and my HDMI port does 4K at 60hz at RGB full without needing any adapters. I am fairly sure it does have an HDMI 2.0 port. You can also use the mini display port. It should be at least 1.2 as that has been the case for years now. I doubt it has 1.3

    If your external screen uses only HDMI 2.0, be sure to get an active mini display port to HDMI 2.0 adapter.
     
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    I had draw with the machine shut down and plugged in, 1.2 W if I remember correctly, it would be interesting to see where the energy is going.
     
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    It's impossible for us, or MSI, to know what Nvidia's next GPUs will require in a slot. I can guarantee you that MSI won't say a word, until they have the Volta GPUs in hand for testing.

    Speaking strictly theoretically, now that these motherboards have the extra power connector required for Pascal, there shouldn't be anything keeping them from accepting Volta. At worst, HBM2 should only force the need for a new heatsink.
     
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    Mini DP is v1.2.
     
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    Same here, maybe it's the psu itself?
     
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    As I recall if I kept the PSU plugged into the killawatt/outlet but remove the cord from the back of the laptop it went to zero. I'll check it whenever I get back home.
     
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    PSU has an inefficiency rating that prevents it from doing 0w even if the computer is plugged in. This is normal design and happens in the majority of power supplies (though the power consumed differs).
     
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    @DukeCLR

    Got Reply from Intel, they asked for Drive Detail or Smart Detail Report using Intel SSD ToolBox and Run the Diagnostic Tests. Sent them the report and following is the final reply

    Greetings from Intel Customer Support! Thank you for your response. If the diagnostic test was able to complete without any error, then it just means that the SSD is fine. I've checked the report that you've sent and can see correct values in the threshold and normalize value. Also, we cannot guarantee what the results will be when using third party tool as we only use Intel tools for monitoring the status of the SSD. This gives us more accurate information as to what the status of the drive is. Hopefully, this has answered your query. Please let me know if you have any other questions or concerns. Thank you and have a great day!
    Kind regards,
    Cedric Intel Customer Support

    Ran Diagnostic Quick & Full Test and both are Good.

    Peace of mind......
     
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    That's good to know.
     
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    This seems strange to me on two levels.

    1. If it is a HDMI 2.0 port why would MSI not make that a marketing bullet point?
    2. If it is not HDMI 2.0..why the hell not...this is supposed to be the latest and greatest from MSI
     
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    Anyone try out the new driver from nvidia? 376.09
     
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    I will test it when I will get my 2nd LED replacement hopefully this week, Nvidia fix the issue High GPU idle clocks with two DisplayPort displays.
    Not sure it will fix the issue when with two displays with 2 different type of ports (in my case, HDMI & miniDisplay or ThunderBolt)

    Beside that the release note says, it has game ready driver for Watch Dog 2 and optimal experience of

    Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare Remastered, The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition, Obduction, Titanfall 2
    Battlefield 1, Civilization VI, Steep: Open Beta, Tom Clancy’s The Division Survival DLC


    along with couple of fixes of minor bug. black screen issues etc etc.

    Nothing Major...... :no:
     
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    Which wireless routers are you guys using with your GT73VR?

    I have gone from ISP's wireless ap -> Netgear R7000 -> Netgear R7800.

    The R7800 supports Beamforming, MU-MIMO and this upgrade has massively improved the speeds/latency I am getting using the wifi. Even going from R7000

    Some reading here:
    http://www.legitreviews.com/rivet-networks-killer-wireless-ac-1535-mu-mimo-card-review_180055

    https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Netwo...IMO-Era-Begins/Killer-Software-and-Conclusion

    http://www.notebookcheck.net/Killer-Wireless-AC-1535-Review.178877.0.html
     
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    In the gaming forum there are posts about the drivers which I have found useful. I could not get this one to load properly and some reported a drop in performance. I was having stutters in BF1 with DX12 turned on with driver 375.63, DX11 worked fine, with 375.95 the DX12 stutters went away but there was a drop in FPS, DX11 was flawless. So now I'm playing BF1 with DX11 with 375.95.
     
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