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    The Official MSI GT73VR Owners and Discussions Lounge

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Aug 16, 2016.

  1. DukeCLR

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    So I just noticed that Newegg has the same Intell 600p disk on sale for $79.00. This seems like a good opportunity to get it to set up a raid 0. Is it worth it to got through the hassle of setting it up? What benefit would I get?
     
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    That's an odd way to word it "Close out sale", it's a brand new design only recently released... is MSI clearing stock to make ready to release a new Kaby Lake version?
     
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    If you google it, you'll find it's a Windows 10 problem:
    https://www.google.com/search?q=bla...rome..69i57.6440j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    It may be related to the version of the driver. DDU clean it in Safe mode, after downloading the latest from Nvidia's site.

    So far it's mostly been a software problem. Those issues plaqued Windows 8 as well, Windows 8.1 has had that issue fixed for a long time.

    Windows 10 gets lots of fun bugs everytime there is a new update, this is one of the ones that keeps coming back...
     
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    If you otherwise like the laptop, no other physical reasons to reject the laptop, I'd keep it and work out the software issue.

    You might be buying yourself trouble with new hardware...
     
  5. hmscott

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    Yeah, I always disable hibernation and pagefile, one of the first things I do.

    Getting rid of hibernation disables Fast Startup as it depends on hibernation to work - and it also gets rid of Fast Shutdown - pseudo shutdown which is the problem you were having.

    Nice side benefit is you get back the space taken by hiberfil.sys and pagefile.sys in C:\ for me that was 64GB on a 256GB RAID0.
     
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  6. SynergyUK

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    A slight off topic question; when performing a factory reset it asks which drive to store the OS and which to store the recovery partition.

    Am I right in assuming the primary SSD is for the OS then the recovery partition should be stored on the secondary? I tried a restore keeping both on the same drive and it kind of broke my raid, reducing the drive capacity to 256GB (should be 512).
     
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    MSI split's the recovery partition off on to the 1TB drive, with a small partition on the SSD.
     
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  8. Futumpch

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    I have one (UK) and it does :)
     
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    Try creating the external media such as DVD or USB flash drive, then do the recovery from it. Its script should automatically determine the available capacity and maximize it.
     
  10. Atma

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    I'm late to the party because my internet has been down (thanks Time Warner). Mine is 200 and I'm sure that's the default since I've never changed it.
     
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    A corsair vengeance ddr4 3000mhz ram would work on this motherboard, right? Probably have to change it to 3000 in the bios, which is no big deal. Just making sure it can utilize that speed without any problems.
     
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    Fresh install of windows and updated nvidia drivers using the "clean install" option. Benchmark result;

    [​IMG]
     
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    Good score! Which driver you using?
     
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  14. Mikle39

    Mikle39 Notebook Guru

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    hello guys

    are you happy with 17.3" 1920 x 1080 Full HD (1920x1080) AUO - 120Hz - 5ms - 94% NTSC ??

    how is that display compare to IPS Macbook? much worse?
     
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  15. SynergyUK

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    375.63.

    Just played 30 mins of BF1, problem free too.

    What an amazing machine. It seems all my issues were purely down to bad software/drivers.
     
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    I haven't gone through the whole thread, so I'm not sure if this has already been discussed, but has anyone tested performance of the GT73VR (6820HK & 1070 ideally) on battery? I realise it's going to be lower than when running on mains, however I've seen reports of someone who tested and found their GPU memory clock was restricted to 810 MHz on battery, which seems like a driver issue, but this was with both 369.02 and 375.95, neither of which should be affected by the 375.86 GPU memory issue.

    As a result their fire strike score drops from 17,000 to 4,000 on battery, much lower than expected for battery performance (and lower than other laptops; eg, AW15R3 gets ~12,000 on battery).
     
  17. SynergyUK

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    I love the screen. It's been a while since I've owned a macbook so wouldn't be fair for me to comment but that said this is the best "windows" laptop screen I have ever seen (for a FHD).
     
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    I will test for you now.

    EDIT;

    Yeah performance is awful on battery. GPU clock doesn't pass 810MHZ as you mentioned.
     
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  19. CarbonTwelve

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    Strange. The other guy just mentioned that he noticed the MSI afterburner monitoring shows both a power limit and a temp limit when gaming on battery; I'm going to assume it'll show the same for you. The temp limit certainly seems like a bug.

    I'm considering purchasing this laptop, however I'll be doing a lot of gaming on battery, so if the performance really is crippled on battery then I'll have to look elsewhere... Definitely seems like a bug though.
     
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    Great score!

    I love my screen, my games play super smooth. The only Apple device I currently use is my company issued iPad so I can say much about the comparison
     
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    I honestly don't know how long of a session you expect playing on a battery, how long do other gaming laptops play on battery?

    You may want ot look at the power settings in windows, there are power setting that apply when on battery power, if you were to disable those maybe those limitation wouldn't happen.
     
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  22. Mikle39

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    This why i am asking, not sure about viewing angle
    find a video to compare IPS vs TN+Film MSI GT73VR



    1.IPS
    2.TN+Film
     
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    I would look at the windows power options and see if there is something there to help you. Let us know what you discover.
     
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    I haven't got a GT73VR to test with, hence why I'm asking here.
     
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    I always am sitting in front of my laptop of watching something on a TV so viewing angle isn't something I have looked at. Maybe someone else around here has more to offer, sorry.
     
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    Dooh, I see, mine is packed up at the moment, when I get a chance I can take a peek and maybe even do a test.
     
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  28. Greel

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    does msi sell directly?

    my first choice, the AW 17 has decided to only sell their 1080 with a QHD screen.
    so the only other good 4k screen laptop is the GT73, but im not really a fan of the the asethetics. alienware also has all their models discounted.

    was hoping to get the gt 73 a bit cheaper for black friday?
     
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    I have a quick question for anyone that bought a GT73VR from Hidevolution, did it come with a TPM?
     
  30. Shehary

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    I don't think so MSI sale directly as their is no direct buying option on MSI website

    MSI offering Back Friday discount on selected laptop range and GT73VR not in the list but you can check with re-sellers, chances are some re sellers may offer Black Friday discount.
     
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    There are sales going on, but MSi does not sell direct.
     
  32. Greel

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    really? i havent seen the base price any lower than $2799 for the 4k-225 model.(HID/Xotic/Gentech/amazon/newegg/pretty much everywhere that showed up on google shopping has it at $2799) i have it speced to $3443.02 with GentechPc but i have to figure out some type of loan because they wont do any fiancing at all, just paypal
     
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    You might notice, more specifically, sales/promos on upgrade items and additional accessories than the system itself. The days of Black Friday and Cyber Monday are more likely to yield sales.

    A lot of resellers don't offer their own financing, but you can do PayPal Credit as an alternative.
     
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    I'm currently having 2 issues with my new GT73 (with GX1070).

    Issue 1: Battery is discharging way too much when powered down and unplugged. It discharged to 68% within 12 days. Someone else reported it discharging to 78% in 7 days.

    Issue 2: See my question to the MSI reps. I just can't get my head around the question why hybrid power is still here sucking our batteries instead of just using all the power the ac adapters can provide. Those are specced for 230 Watt output... even with 10% reserve thats still way more than the 180Watt the firmware seems to be actually allowing...
     
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  35. Greel

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    yeah Gentech only does paypal.

    im trying HidEvolution, they might be able set me up with payments, if not i'll just have to wait till i have it in cash.
     
  36. Hd172

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    After doing the the windows update and the latest driver from nvidia here is my fire strike score. This is with the Dragon center on turbo. Does this look ok?
     

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    That's a proper graphics score for a stock 1080.
     
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    I would say that's a great score. If you copy the url from 3dmark we can compare it easier.
     
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    Ibuypower seems to have some deals going although I haven't bought anything from them in years but it may be a choice. They have the GT73VR w/ 1070/6820hk starting at 1799$ and the 4k GTX 1080/6820hk starting at 2499$ also the GT83VR w/ SLI 1070/6820hk starting at 2599$.
     
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    Got my laptop 1 day early!

    Took the #1 spot for people with 1070 SLI notebooks in both Firestrike & TimeSpy.

    I'm going to tweak the CPU, RAM and GPU further to see how far she'll go, only spent about 45 minutes on it but so far so good (not using Dragon Center).

    Stock Paste
    +210/+250
    CPU @ 4.1 (Cache @ 4.0)

    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/16215983
    [​IMG]
    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/16216062
    [​IMG]


    Here's the 980 SLI GT80S I ended up returning +160/250:

    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/16167113
    [​IMG]



    For comparison, here's my desktop system with Titan X Pascal OC +185/+750:

    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/15687813
    [​IMG]
     
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    I know this isn't quite the thread for it but for those interested in deals they also have a GT72VR w/1070 for $1699 and
    GT72VR upgraded from a 1060 to a 1070 for $1609. then take 5% off for $1528 and then a $200 mail in rebate = $1328 TOTAL for the base model, which is very cheap for what you're getting.
    The GT73VR w/1070 is $1,799.00 with 5% discount = $1709, also a good price.

    I'm interested in both, they both have come down in price but I'm having a hard time justifying the extra $1709 - $1328 = $381 for the somewhat better system. So I think for myself I'm going to go with the 72VR and save the cash for next time. If it was the initial difference of $100 I would go with the 73VR and not look back but $381 is a nice chunk.
     
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    I did another run in sport mode. I got a higher score than I did in Turbo. I think that Dragon Center may not be working at all. I also noticed that the GPU temps were getting into the 80's during the test with fans on auto.

    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/16214742?
     
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    Another thought is how viable/realistic is an egpu using thunderbolt 3? I'm thinking down the road.
     
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    I am considering both as well, I would love to get something with an optical drive internal but the extra drive connectivity will probably push me to the GT73VR.
     
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    Hi, i got my GT73VR 6RE (single gtx1070, 120mhz 5 ms version). 3 weeks ago on the 02.11.2016.

    At the beggining sorry for my english i know it isn't perfect!

    I want to describe my problems with this model.

    At start i made clean install because windows wasn't in my language (notebook bought in deutschland), made all updates, drivers etc etc.

    It looked rly nice, fast booting around 12 seconds, under 1 sec to pop up chrome.

    But then i bought Civilization VI and suddenly problems started. I set setting on max but sometimes screens turned back, then switched to desktop and again to black screen, then back to game but with max 30 fps (WOOT! 3k euro and black screen?!).

    Ok let's move on... CIV: Beyong Earth... the same problems.
    Guild Wars 2 - this game was rly strange... ofc max settings around 90 fps but after few seconds in game (not minutes but second!) vertical (proper word?) green lines, black screen, desktop, green lines and so on... over and over till alt +f4 and game is closed.

    League of Legends - max settings over 500 fps on ARAM map and again black screen (this time without green lines only black screen) back to game but again with only 30-60 fps and freezing screen. I thought maybe LoL need constant fps... tuned on v-sync same problem, turned off g-sync same problem, v-sync off g-sync off same problem.

    Overwatch max setting max fps set to 120. Looked rly nice... all day without any problems. I started thinking about drivers. I've changed drivers for few other version but problems described above still existed. And then suddenly on the next day Overwatch crashed. JESUS!!!

    Once again clean install windows 10, this time no games, no software like antivirus etc, just clean windows 10 with all updates and drives/utilitiles form MSI.

    3d mark - 1st time full test ok, 2nd time crash
    Unigine Heaven - never crashed
    GPU-Z stress test - never crashed


    Now funny thing... Prime95 FFS test, after 10 sec CPU temp 90 C ! 15-20 sec of test notebook turned off becasue temp reached 100 C! Ok then wanted to try again... same thing... 100 C notebook turned off.
    Time for normal test in Prime95... this time it looked better... 100 C after 20-30 min in test. But this turned off.

    After test in Prime95 i sent back notebook to the shop.

    Forgot to mention that i made every test/game test etc always in Turbo Mode then Sport Mode.
    Always after black screen in games i had to restart Dragon Center i even thought its his fault, but even when i uninstalled it problems still existed.

    Once again sorry for my bad english but i want ppl with similar problems to know that they are not alone becasue there are only few informations about problem in the internet. Most of the posts are reviewes.



     
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    I had a similar problem to what you are showing in your video but with me it was when playing battlefield 1.

    Someone suggested updating nvidia drivers using the custom>clean installation method. Since doing it this way, I haven't had a problem since.

    Your temps do seem a little high, have you updated the EC? Check that your fans are actually spinning up by looking at the RPM in the dragon control center.
     
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    Yes, i've tried other drivers with DDU. Updated EC to 107 version but it didin't help. Fans worked at 4k RPM during Prime95 test. But like i wrote it was only few second from 40-50 C idle temp to 100 C. Just clicked start, loud noise from FANS and notebook turned off.
     
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    Sounds like you need to return the machine to the vendor.
     
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    Already did it.
     
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