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Great score!

 

Having some issues this evening.

After about 30 minutes of playing battlefield 1 the computer is crashing, not hard but it is crashing to desktop.

When Im playing the screen fills with lines, then goes black. The sound remains but it stays black for about 2 seconds then returns to the desktop and a "battlefield 1 has stopped working" message.

 

Would that be the core voltage offset in XTU?

 

What driver are you using? I'm using 375.63and it works great but I do get problems with DirectX 12 and Afterburner. I haven't tried 375.95 yet.
I have had crashes in game when I get Origin pop ups, turning off Origin in game helped with that.

 

Using 375.95 that came out yesterday. I don't know if it's better than the one you're using. My score was about the same as the MSI drivers when I tried it the first time with default turbo. It looks like it has a lot of fixes though. From the chart at that link it has slightly better scores than 375.63.

 

Same one as you have been undervolting, now overvolt it

 

but .. but .. I haven't changed any voltage. It's the same it came with. I've just been using Dragon Center and there is no voltage tweaking in it as far as I know. I was just perusing XTU and saw that setting and also core voltage.

 

Using the same driver.

BF1 is running DX11. Have tried turning origin in-game off to see if that improves anything. It's almost like the GPU just cacks itself and stops responding for a second. That said I cant imagine a crash to desktop and return of graphics if that was the case. Its random, I mean I can play BF1 for 2 hours and it'll be flawless then on another occasion I can play for 10 mins and it'll happen 3-4 times.

One thing I have noticed is when I stress test the CPU using XTU, the mouse becomes laggy.

 

Yes, core voltage offset, and cache voltage offset. For doing overvolt just do the core voltage offset, leave cache voltage at default.

Here's XTU settings just for 40x on all 4 cores - Applied, then the next one shows cores plus voltage undervolt for cores and cache changes just before they are Applied in Yellow

Intel XTU set to 40x all 4 cores with everything else set at defaults


XTU Settings 5950HQ long batch job runs 35x -100mV cores -100mV cache.jpg


Remember to Apply to have the changes take effect, then Save a named Profile - in order for the settings to take effect on next boot you need to have Save'd to a Profile name.

 

I finally got 42 stable with a .050 voltage offset. I don't get it. Why would my score be so low? http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10828655
Almost 1000 points lower than it was at 41.

 

Yup, some benchmarks will score lower after removing undervolt and adding overvolt - temp/power throttling - maybe even thermal throttling.

Are you monitoring with hwinfo64? Watch for "red" numbers and Thermal Throttling "yes" entries:
https://www.hwinfo.com/download.php

You should try to reduce the 50mv overvolt a bit... the lower you can make it and still be stable at 4.2ghz the better your score should be.

 

I have a very noob question here. It's about the uhd 4k version of this laptop. I know it's 60hz at 4k, but does that change if you knock it down to 1920x1080? Is it still 60hz? 120hz? 75hz? Some other hz?
Also, just any thoughts/opinions if a 4k screen is even worth it on a laptop. I'd be using a gtx 1070.


By the way, there's still conflicting information on whether the fhd 1920x1080 120hz laptops have g-sync. I know earlier in this thread people came to the conclusion that it does, as there were even screenshots about it. Yet I've asked Xotic and a few other places and they all say it doesn't support g-sync. So...we're 100% sure that they actually do?

 

Looks like I'm going to have one of these soon, due to MSI's trade in program.

Hype.

1. The 4K screen is 60Hz, regardless of the resolution you run.

2. The 1080p/120Hz screen is 100% certified as G-Sync, ignore those who say otherwise.

 

I don't think I can reduce it much. I started at .010 and went up in .05 increments. 50 was the lowest I could get through Fire Strike.

 

I picked up my GT from the post office today. Boy this windows update stuff takes forever. Ok, I've made a backup, deleted norton, and updated windows. I'm currently downloading the new nvidia driver. Do I need to install all the driver updates from the MSI website? If so is there a way to just download all and install with one click?

 

Then .05 might not be enough, this is the tricky stuff

Try .06, etc, and see if the score improves. Too little voltage at the borderline might reduce score even if it is stable. It's worth playing with.

Does the Cache voltage track changes with the core? Try adding .05 to the cache as well as the core. And, if that helps, try .04/.04 core/cache. etc.

Make sure you are testing with 100% fans on for a good 5 minutes before testing - completely cool down as far as it will go between tests - back to quiescent idle temps.

You may have reached the point of limiting returns, but it's fun to make sure.

 

Did you create the MSI BurnRecovery image backup yet?

That's the first thing to do, so you don't loose the original out of the box OS image.

Get a good fast USB 3.0 drive to make the creation go faster, and restores go faster when it's time to use it.

 

Yes after turning it on I immediately made the recovery backup

 

I see a bunch of different downloads on the MSI website I'm just wondering if I need them all.

 

The driver updates on MSI are the versions MSI has tested in their Windows image - the one that came on your laptop, and isn't necessarily the latest version - or as new as the version MS Update will install.

The MSI apps updates are usually the latest, but it doesn't hurt to look a bit further afield into the MSI support areas for new laptops / motherboards that use the same components as your laptop - the latest product releases usually get the most up to date drivers at that point.

For Nvidia / Intel drivers I go to their sites and get the latest, sometimes beta version, especially if I am having some problem with the release version on the MSI site.

Windows 10 constantly updating gets out ahead of the developers of apps / drivers and those need updates to catch up.

If you are on Windows 8.1, you can usually catch up when first setting up the laptop and then coast for a while - months - but if you are running Windows 10 you need to track developers updates for drivers and apps pretty closely, and constantly to keep ahead of problems.

Windows 10 might eventually slow down development, and that's the point to adopt it, same as it was for Windows 8.1.

MS says that they will continue updating Windows 10 and not come out with another point release, but people are going to get tired to constantly updating and MS will be forced to stabilize a "version" of Windows 10 - except for security updates and bug fixes.

Nvidia has had a long string of dud's lately for drivers - less performance, breaking G-sync, etc. I am not tracking latest versions except through others use right now, look to forum threads on new Nvidia driver versions - search for those release numbers in Titles here to learn user feedback.

 

Thank you every one sevenflames i really appreciate that. Deciding against it. I know msi support sucks...been there. Also...the chirping fan is deffo an msi problem my first laptop came with this issue...also dead pixels on nearly every unit. Had that one before. Im dsciding to go desktop route with a 1070 and a good ips full rgb screen with full srgb. Any recommendations?

totally expected more from the titsn considering the cost!

 

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This happened to me a few times since the last BF update.

 

My GT73VR 6RE has been working fine for two days now. Though I am wondering if anyone else have had problems with BF 1's sounds? Sounds of the game have "lag spikes", which means that the sounds sometimes stops for 1 second and then comes back normally. Usually happens 2-3 times in a minute. Very annoying.

I have my nahimic drivers updated to latest version.

 

I installed the latest Nvida driver last night to try it out, 375.95. I was able to play without crashes but I was still unable to run with Directx 12 and MSI AB, I turned off DX12 and was able to collect an entire gaming session, I don't have a recorded min/max FPS I just look at the graph but what I noticed was there was less time at 120 FPS as in previous versions. I also got a lower 3D score this morning using the same setting I used to break 15k this driver came up short. http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/16171291?

The other day I was playing with some friends and I lost all games sounds but the BF1 VOIP was working. I played the rest of the round because I was having a good one and the sound never came back. My friend told me it had happened to him and a game restart is the only fix. Its a BF1 issue.

I have an issue with BF1 where the game hangs up on shutdown, it happens on both of my machines reguardless of the driver I use. EA/Dice have buggy programs, its the way it is. I get annoyed that when I sit down to play their games I could be in for a 20 minute trouble shooting session. In the end I'll play the game for hundreds of hours and the cost per hour of entertainment will be relatively low.

 

I updated the nvidia driver and nahimic. I'm going to check the versions of the rest of the drivers with MSI and update as needed. Do I need to update the BIOS too? Duke where are you based? I work at Oakland Center.

 

Same here. How DICE is not able to prevent such issues is beyond me.

 

I would not touch the BIOS unless you need to.

The biggest driver problem I have ran into has been with the Killer wireless but when I downloaded the drive only package from them directly it has been working properly.

There are threads in the gaming forum here that address problems with video drivers, i will check there first from now on before installing Nvida drivers.

Cool, we have a guy in our "clan" that work in Duluth tower. I'm based in JFK flying the B757 & B767, I usually fly to Europe, although this time of year I'm stuck in the crash pad sitting on call, Thus the slick laptop. I tell ya, sub 20 pings really help out with the boredom and the K/D ratio.

 

I've had issues with audio in DOOM even after updating to the latest driver and Nahimic. I would have audio in the beginning and then it would stop for the rest of the game. My solution, uninstall Nahimic and it worked fine after that.

 

Does anyone have a recommendation on a bag ? My Oakley one is too small for this behemoth.

 

I bought this one. Plenty of room even with the AC adapter.

 

I splurged on the Evereki Titan. Because I'm on the road constantly I went for quality and LOTS of space.

 

It's amazing how big and small this world is.

 

Thanks I just ordered it on amazon. I'm going to D.C. Next month so I want to keep it protected during travel.

 

No problem, I think you will enjoy it, Notice in the picture below I took some of the packaging material from the msi box and put it on the bottom, in my experience, the hardest hit my laptops have ever taken have been from cab/van drivers putting it down on the sidewalk, this helps cushion that but the top is a bit tighter.

 

Ahhhh good idea.

 

I think my crashing issues may be linked to "turbo" mode.

When in turbo mode the CPU cores are set to x40 and the GPU is overclocked +100/+200.

When I game with the machine in sport mode, it runs sweet as a nut. Played an hour of BF1 without a single hick up.

 

Guys wut kind of memory would be the best for our baby? i was thinking on this ones

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ohhh BTW i got this one

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But i leave all my selection for you guys

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One last option that I didn't check but might be the answer - could you or anyone else check the value of Power Limit 1 and Power Limit 2 parameter in the BIOS/OC settings? I currently have 200 set for both of those parameters.

 

I can't check, but maybe @Atma or @DukeCLR or ? can help

 

I haven't been in my BIOS much but I just took a peek and both of those settings are 200 and I'm 99% sure that's the default.

 

hey guys after updating windows dragon center system monitor CPU clock and GPU VCore are showing N/A. Any suggestions?

 

I haven't had a problem specific to to an update but I have seen that issue but I can't remember the circumstances and I don't use that for monitoring at this point. I just use the OSD with MSI afterburner, I can also pull up a chart that has all those stats after a gaming session.

 

Ok I'll just stop u

ok I'll just stop using it for now

 

Found a great deal on Amazon via XoticPC for a GT73VR Titan SLI 6820HK/ 1070 SLI / 64GB DDR4/ 512GB SSD/ 1TB HDD for $3149 , was the last one in stock!

Arriving Wednesday. Looked on their own website and it was $50 more (still a good price), it's listed as a "close out sale" (usual price everywhere else seems to be $3399).

 

More issues to report. Am really hoping I dont have a duff laptop to add to the string of disasters I have already been through this year.

- When installing latest nvidia driver screen goes black and stays black. Only way to recover screen is a reboot or forcing the laptop to sleep then wake it up
- Upon cold boot this morning, laptop screen remained black with a singular vertical white line on it. Keyboard tried to light up but didnt display usual colours, just white.

What do you think is going on here guys? Have I got a duff machine or are bad drivers causing me these issues?

 

I have had the black screen at the end on a driver update many times and I had no noticeable problems after a reboot. I recently changed the way I do graphic driver updates. I stopped using GFE and launched the driver package, then I select custom install and uncheck GFE and 3d drivers as I don't use them, I also check the clean installation box. This seems to work without the black screen issue.

The only time I had white keys was when windows 10 installed a generic driver on my GT70, Maybe its a driver issue.

Was the white line there the entire time?

I would make sure that windows has updated then reinstall the Nvidia drive with the clean installation or use DDU to be sure you get all the old bits off.

 

I will try a clean install this evening.

Regarding the cold boot/white line issue. When I power up in the morning it just goes straight to a black screen with a single white line and the before mentioned white keyboard. This will stay until I hard shut down the machine via the power button. It boots up fine the second time round.

Have been onto the dealer this morning and they are going to send me a brand new machine. I am allowed to return mine when the new one arrives.

PS. The windows 10 anniversary update takes HOURS to complete. Its painful to watch.

 

Before you do a clean install, try changing the Fast Boot setting in the Bios.
Also change the Fast Startup setting in Windows under Power Plan settings.
Both settings where giving me Problems as well.

 

For anything its worth, I found a solution to the Problem.
Disabling the Fast Startup setting in Windows made the issue dissapear.