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Hey guys
Do you think that there will be deals from Msi on their laptops throw black friday week ?

 

Here are my 2 cents

The First thing I did when got the laptop, ran all the stress tests, without updating the drivers and windows anniversary edition, just to make sure that the laptop is working fine and this step narrow down to that laptop has no hardware issue.

If all good, there is no problem with hardware then

Next thing, took the backup on flash drive (no idea why MSI provide all backup software on DVD when there is no DVD rom in this laptop) and restore the laptop to factory setting just to make sure that have clean window with default software and drivers and no left over of the stress test software and other utilities.

Ran the Window Updates, let it do it's job, make sure that the laptop not go on sleep mode, update will take time, so change the sleep mode setting in power option.

After All Windows Update done, DGC stop working, I downloaded the latest version of DGC from MSI website and followed the instructions mentioned on MSI website
Uninstall the DGC
Restart
Run Installation of new version of DGC as Administrator
And DGC start working again. no problem at all. (If in-case DGC not working properly, install Intel Xtreme Utility will fix the problem)

Didn't update any driver from MSI website or Nvidia website.

Never had any problem with sound, killer wireless, nahimic, True color or any black screen, never had to force shut down the laptop.

Never installed GeForce Experience.

Tested Call of Duty Infinite warfare, Warefare Remastered, Call of Duty Black Ops III, Mafia III, Gears of War IV without any problem on ultra high settings and will test Quantum Break next week hopefully.

Yes not able to play Battle field 1 but I can wait for MSI to release Nvidia drivers.

and have stable laptop, no problem at all.

 

yes but GT73VR not in the list, last I checked GT83VR, only $200 discount

 

thanks for your reply
anyway all major laptops producers are offering good deals and discounts, dell for example Dell is offering over 500 dollar off on their 17" models,it is a strange move from MSI

 

Here is the deal on selected laptop from MSI but GT73VR not in the list and no it's not strange not all companies offers deals on all of their products range.

 

Dear GT73VR owners, in the past two weeks I came across a very strange issue with our beloved GT73VR Notebook which is observable every single time and to which I haven't found a solution yet.

Let me explain what exactly happens. I am sure it will be the same on your machines.

Upon starting your notebook from a cold boot, go into your benchmarking tool, e.g. Unigine Heaven, and let it do its run. Write down the results. Afterwards, RESTART your notebook ( warm boot) and redo the benchmarking. Compare the results. There will be noticeable difference in the results around 10%. Results from cold boot being worse than after restart.

It is important to do the second testing run after a restart (reboot) warm boot, not after a shutdown and cold boot startup.

Upon searching for this issue on different sites, it seems that Gigabyte had such issues with some of their motherboards involving the different things, like PCIE gen settings, XMP MEM Profile settings or PCI Lanes, in the BIOS. However on the MSI GT73VR there isn't any way to change these setting in the BIOS. A total clean install didn't solve the issue for most users. Only a BIOS update seemed to have helped solving it.

Any suggestions?

 

You might be waiting a long time. Just saying.

 

probably yes but GT73VR is not the only laptop has GTX1080, GT83VR also have GTX1080 and MSI will update Nvidia driver soon, on other hand I only have weekends to play games and still have 4 games to finish, if MSI will not update driver till release of Dishonored 2, will grab stable version of drivers from Nividia website and also using this laptop as my work station so can't do tests and reset every 2nd day.

 

primeshooter3Newbie

Hey everyone. Im looking seriously at this new GT73VR 6RF. Important considerations for me is tht im a photographer too so the screen must be 100% srgb or very close to it. I noticed our very own review on here seems to say the fhd panel is but the 4k option isnt...did i read this correctly? Also...the review says the 4k version is ips and the fhd is just tn? Surely its not tn i thought those sucked with poor viewing angle and colour? Please confirm what this is all about and if you could visit my link to check imbuying what i think i am that would helpme out too.

So anyway...i tried a few dominator pros...ordered two gt72vr 6rd i think it was. Both arrived with bandy colours and each had two bright green stuck pixels also they are only measured about 86% srgb...not acceptable for me especially the duff pixels out the box on two differrnt units that i returned! I do hope this will not be the case for the titan considering its hefty price tag yes? Build quality is so important to me as is general speed.

can someone confirm the titan does not have this issue...

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=276149.0

thankd and ill prob be back with more questions.

Steve
This is laptop below...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-GT73VR...165953&creativeASIN=B01K5QEM5C#productDetails

 

Firestrike Benchmark;



I LOVE THIS MACHINE!

 

Hello Primeshooter,

I bought the GT73VR 6RF4K about 7 weeks ago. I would urgently suggest, that you buy another notebook, if you are in need of a good display. My display has backlight bleeding at the lower end of the Panel (two very big areas). In the German MSI forum there are many complaints about this malfunction. The only solution is to send it to Poland and hope, that they will accept it as a defect, that is covered by warranty.
Overmore I have a CPU fan, which makes a lot of noise (chirping). It has to be replaced, too. The MSI support, at least in Germany, is more than just bad. They do not answer to questions, and if they do, they just give standard answers (realls, whole blocks of text which are obviously just copied and pasted).
Further nearly everyone of us experiences battery issues: the battery loses charge over the day if not using it and whilst gaming (of course the notebook is connected to the power line!)!
Indeed I have to admit, that I am firmly convinced, that anyone, who buys a GT73VR is a test user for MSI, right at the moment. I would not spend that amount of money for a product, that has components with such a low level of quality and which was never tested at the end of the production line.

Sorry to say so. But you asked for a recommendation. This is mine. Do not buy this one regarding your expectations.

Best regards
Seven

 

This is by design, the recharging is managed to prolong battery life so it will discharge to a point before recharging.

That's ridiculous, anyone can look through this thread alone and see how absurd this statement is.

@Primeshooter.

I cant say much to the 4k screen and it sounds like you need a high quality one. I'm not sure what country you are form but if possible buy from a re seller that can check it out for you and accept it back if you don't like it. If you buy from a large re seller you will just have to roll the dice on the screen, if its not what you are looking for send it back ASAP. Going through the RMA process at MSI sounds horrible in Germany and isn't much better in the USA hear form what people have posted.

EVGA has a 4k laptop screen and they have a good community that could help you out if need be.

 

Well, I am from Germany and looking into the German forum this statement is not as ridiculous as you might think. Backlight Bleeding is reported by every GT73VR user and about two thirds report chirping noise from their CPU fans. Even notebookcheck recognized backlight bleeding on their test model.
My old XMG had less backlight bleeding, being an 1.000 Euro model. This 3.800 Euro model has strong backlight bleeding on every reported device in the Germany`s MSI forum. This is - in my opinion - a strong indicator for the low quality of the chosen displays. And this is relevant for the FHD and the UHD panel.
The malfunctions on my device were evident on the first time of engaging. Therefore I assume, that the device had not been checked properly at the end of production. Same on other devices lets me assume, that this might be a standard at MSI.

Edit: I forget this: In my opinion it is not a feasible option for a device in this price range to buy it, test it, send it back if bad and run after your money in the worst case. Devices like this should be proper by the time they are delivered. But actually the most devices delivered are defective in the one or the other way.

 

Several members claim batteries to discharge on the GT73VR up to 3-5% per day. One member of the German forum did not use his NB for 12 days and had a loss of 32% battery charge. I am quite sure that I would not accept this, if it was by design.

Edit: And yes: I guess, that the discharge whilst gaming is by design. As long as it just discharges down to 90% and then charges again, it is acceptable for me.

 

driver?

 

driver?

 

So here's the image of my Dragon Center:





Basically all CPU cores are set to 42.
GPU clock and memory clock can also be adjusted from DC on the other tab and max you can do is +200 Core and +375 VRAM.

Power plan is set to High Performance.

 

Look I have no doubt that you have issues with this laptop, you said that everone who has bought a GT73VR is a MSI tester, that's is an unfounded claim.

5% per day seem excessive to me and I would send it back and I agree that MSI has some quality control issues and further more has poor support so that should be considered in your decision to purchase.

 

So the Nvidia drivers...I manually installed 375.70 from Nvidia, and the geforce experience will not detect the new 375.95 drivers...should I manually install each time? Is anyone still using the 369.02 (from August) that MSI provides?

I have the GT73VR 6RF GTX 1080 with 4K display

 

For some reason I can't get above 3592 anymore no matter what I have it set on.

CPUID Bench image.

That's with it set on Turbo with the default 40. I used to get at least 3900 MHz with that setting. I just tried changing to 42 and still the same 35**. It's only since I did a system restore after setting up raid. I also updated to the latest Dragon Center. I wonder if that's the problem.

 

For me , no matter what I am setting in the DGC the CPU clockspeed does not go higher than 3.6ghz

 

I'm running 375.86 mobile 1080 drivers no issues

*Update*
I downloaded 375.95 notebook edition and it installed no problems

 

What version of Intel extreme tuning you running?
I'm running 6.2.0.17 and able to OC via DGC

 

could you please share with me a link ? i only found that MSI has on their website....

 

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/24075/Intel-Extreme-Tuning-Utility-Intel-XTU-

 

may i ask a bit of a help for INTEL XTU settings ? i have a gt73vr 6rr titan pro 1080

 

thank, but i completely do not understand now.. are you using the INTEL XTU and the dragon center at the same time or just only one program ?

I already downloaded the XTU but i uninstalled the GDC as previously advised

 

I just now installed XTU. I didn't make any kind of changes with it. I set Dragon Center to turbo and now it is working right, or at least like it used to.

https://s14.postimg.org/3rpqskrnl/CPUID_2.jpg

 

ahh.. i see now.. it is working on my rig as well, thanks a lot !!! did you under voltage the cpu though ?

well with overlcoking tha base temp is around 65 max in desktop Celsius is that normal ?

 

Glad it's working now

 

No, haven't tried undervolting. I haven't gamed yet since I installed XTU, but the CPU temp usually goes around 75-78c when playing DOOM with it in turbo.

Well I just tried it. 75-76c on CPU DOOM gaming.

 

All this chat about problems with overclocking and DGC had me curious so I just tried a quick test using only DGC. I set the multiplier at 42. I set the GPU to 100/150 (The GPU tab that I posted was missing is there now, I could be loosing my mind??) I then used the hardware cooler boost button to turn the fans on. I ran firestrike demo and got my best score yet. The peek GPU temp was 48C the number 1 core peaked at 68 where then others were in the low 60s, I didn't reset the min/max after turning the cooler boost on that could be the reason for the odd core temp.

I am using the November 2 version of DGC, I cant find the version number anywhere. I hadn't launched XTU but I'm not sure if there are any parts of it running in the background. Msi Afterburner was also not launched.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/16156403?

 

Good score. I had to give it a try because I'm bored. I used the same as you except I left the GPU at the default 100/200. I don't understand why the CPU didn't go above 3994 MHz with it set at 42. At least the temps were good but cooler boost it LOUD.

3DMark Score
CPUID

I don't understand why the score is lower than it was when I did the test right after I received the laptop. I only had it on 40 then. Drivers maybe? Score then.

 

I think your scores are a little on the low side considering all the overclocking you're doing. It's likely a bug with the video drivers above version 375.xx. Here is what I'm getting with my CPU at 4gzh, and 167mhz OC on the GPU. GPU ram is default.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10814170

 

That's is interesting and it is strange that you CPU never got above 4.0. I was able to see my speed change in HW monitor from 3.9 to 4.19 before I started the benchmark. What video driver are you using? I'm using 375.63

 

That's also a difference between your 1080 and my 1070. I'm using the original MSI drivers, 369.02. I think I'm going to try the 375.95 that was released yesterday and see what happens.

 

We have 1070's

 

I will try that if the 375.95 doesn't help. The CPU issue bugs me though.

 

Yes, does you clock change in HW monitor?

 

I was using CPUID HWMonitor and it never went over 3994. I'll try HWiNFO too and see what it says.

 

My bad I am using WHmonitor

 

Try to set the GPU to 200/350MHz and you'll get a better score. This is my score with CPU at 4.2GHz and GPU +200/350MHz with DGC and Cooler Boost enable. I'm using Nvidia v375.63 driver.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10724601

 

Here are a couple of screen shots of how its working.

 

I'll give that a try,I would love to get above 15000

 

I did it.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/16158488?

 

Nice score. What driver version are you using? I'm still using v375.63 driver. The newer versions gave me bad performance.

 

I am also using 375.63.

 

I figured out my CPU problem. I forgot to save the settings when I changed it so it was defaulting to normal turbo.

This is with CPU at 41, GPU at 100/200, with the 375.95 drivers. http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10827371

I can't do 42. As soon as I save it it either locks up or reboots.

 

If you have an undervolt, go back to stock and try again. If you are at stock, sometimes you need to *add* voltage, use a positive voltage offset "overvolt" instead of "undervolt".

Start at +10mV, and go up from there to see if you can run 4.2ghz stable. It may not be a useful setting, thermal throttling / power throttling, but for some benchmarks it still helps enough to bump up the score

 

Turn off g-sync and see if score is higher

I got a huge difference
Before
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10827571


After
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/16159023?