The Official MSI GT70-2OD Owner's Lounge

-_- D'oh not sure how I managed to miss that.

That being said, I'm not so sold on SanDisk mSata. Leaning toward spending a bit extra for a couple of Crucial M4's in raid.

 

With compressible data in general not only highly compressible alone.

The majority of already compressed game files are audio and in-game movies. The rest (textures, config files etc) can be compressed by a Sandforce controller easily. That is why when you install a game it fits on one DVD and once extracted occupies 7-8GB of hdd space
Age of Empires 2 (an old game of 1999) compressed is like 239MB. Once installed it requires almost 600MB. And it's a very basic 2D game. Witcher 2 (with its hires textures) is two DVDs. Once installed (decompressed) 14GB.

When you're playing, your SSD is 90% of the time reading data than writing. What you write actually are profile data stored in the specific user account ranging around 20-30MB (most I've seen is around 300MB)

Intel can afford to ask that price because it uses quality components/firmware programming and also because it has the brand recognition. If they only offered a rebate sometimes.. (and be less greedy.. )

 

Actually i face similar problems with MatTheCat, and had posted in http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi/721767-official-msi-gt60-gt70-2oc-770m-owners-lounge-14.html#post9245939 without much reply..

I am unable to get USB 3 speeds and my 4 bay hotway cannot connect to the USB 3 ports properly, but have no problems with the USB 2 ports..

Also my GPU temperature hovers at 85 Celsius running MadVR (Jinc 4 with AR)

Windows update always hang at 15% for at least 5 minutes or more..

My model is GT70 2OC with 1 tb HDD..

 

Hmm I'm not sure that's in line with what I've read while scouring the interwebs (granted I'm not a computer scientist, so take anything I say with a grain of salt lol.) From my understanding at least a large chunk of games are incompressible or at least not very compressible. I imagine this varies depending on the complexity of the game.

Granted intel does say that "some computer games" are compressible on their ssd website, which I can't link or my post won't work -_-
Tom's Hardware's Sandforce SSD Review labels "some gameplay" as incompressible.

Various versions of "Handling incompressible data is essential to the gamer where quick and almost instant loading of complex scenes is critical in tournament play, especially with online competition" can be read on various tech sites/forums on the net.

Any computer geniuses that feel like clarifying?

 

Guys, sorry for disrupting, but I don't have the "strenght" to read the 55 previous pages.

I'm sure the topic has already been discussed, but what do you think of AnandTech GT70 'Dragon Edition' review ?
Do you guys have the same throttling issues after 3 hours of Crysis 3 ? 95-98°C on your GPU ?

I know it's not the right place, but I'm about to buy the GT60 with 780m, which I guess, has exactly the same cooling system.

Thanks for your responses

 

Take that review with a grain of salt, you should not run into any throttling issues as long as you have a proper paste job. If you want to guarantee an even cooler running notebook, place it on a $20 cooling pad while doing heavy duty gaming.

 

Anandtech Review

 

Dopplepost.

 

Are you in UK m8?

I am asking because perhaps there is a bad batch of GT70's going around.......dodgy paste job, faulty Windows 8 image loaded onto hard drives, botched Bios...who knows what else...

Not suggesting that you do this, but by getting rid of Windows 8, I solved all my system hanging/freezing issues, and in doing so, also weeded a few bad apples out of the cart. The Killer E2200 drivers are scum, as is the SCM program (both pretty central to the laptop, I know), Norton also, had to go....to name but a few. However, also under Windows 7, the USB 3 will not work.

 

Please guys, at least try to read a little bit..... since the Anandtech review was just released, you really wouldn't have to read back very far, now would you?

Dodgy, faulty, botched, scum? You do seem to have a flair for the dramatic, and along with this, a lot of assumptions. I have never seen a perfect notebook, or a perfect production run...... of any model, from any manufacturer. So why suggest a 'bad batch' from your lone individual experience? Sure, others may report similar issues, but 'bad-batch'? Also, many do not share your opinion of WIN 8, the Killer E2200 drivers, or the SCM. With each of these there is a slight learning curve, but why not get to know them? After all, this is what the manufacturer has established for this model. Personally, I have not had issues whatsoever with the Killer drivers, or SCM...... though Killer is very specific how their drivers are installed. As to WIN 8, I too was resistant to change, but once familiarized, it grew on me a bit..... and soon WIN 8.1 will be available too. Also, I expect newer Killer & SCM updates will be on the horizon...... so I'm sorry, I do not share your views here.

Again, good luck with your RMA!

 

Actually, there is something wrong with the unit of Anandtech review. I noticed that at 92 degrees, the turboboost clocks get down and start going down to control temps, on my unit, it goes back to 770mhz clocks, but at that point, it never reaches 92 degrees again, it goes between 88 and 90 degrees. In order to get to 98 degrees, something was very wrong, as the GPU would have been severely downclocked to that point, also the CPU.

I noticed the review was quite biased too... anyways, for people having issues with USB 3.0, first check it's not an issue with the device itself. I have, for example, problems with Western digital USB 3.0 external HDDs, but the seagate ones work just fine. If you experience issues, remember to contact for RMA, you should have a working unit out of the box.

 

Well I did ny part in the comment section there.

According to the other reviewer, he even went on to say that the cooling system was the reason why the AMD APU inside the GX60 caused the overall result to go down to GTX 660M level. Not the fact that the CPU is too weak. I posted some temperature measurements from it, 70C with Prime95, obviously not a cooling problem at all.

Got no reply back from Jarred or Davos, both reviewers from Anandtech.
The recent review was nothing but a huge dump against MSI. They didn't go through the details about the big fan MSI. No sir, one fan is obviously automatically all doom and hell, despite this notebook have used a equally hot, if not hotter, GTX 580M earlier.

I hope they have contacted MSI or vice versa, to make an update on the review

Im pretty sure MSI did some extensive testing on the GT70 to make sure it can cool 780M and the lowest i7 from Intel. There is not chance they pushed out a notebook that goes up to 98C.

 

Once again ryzeki, agreed! And yes Cloudfire, splendid job in the comments section...... good points! I would have commented too, but again, my hunch is an agenda going on there. Believe me, MSI is full aware of that review.

 

Cloud,

I read your posts over at Anands and while you explained things very reasonably, the people over there appear to have no clue. They were more interested in childish talk of you being a paid shill and what not. Do not let that get you down. :thumbsup:

As you said, “I am pretty sure MSI did extensive testing…” is totally correct. To think otherwise (as was suggested by forum members over there) shows a total lack of understanding the process of being an ISO certified company and how it relates to engineering and manufacturing of product.

I tend to lurk and not post a whole lot, but felt like I needed to give you some positive feedback considering all the abuse you took over there.

There clearly is something wrong with the review machine and they don’t want to own up to the botched way they handled it.

 

Look, I have been landed with a mal-functioning bolloxed up laptop. Freezing, Hanging, ports not working, and having internet strangulated/throttle has nothing to do with 'learning curves'. I had a bad product. All of you say your Gt70s are just fine...good for you....but mine wasn't, and other people are saying theres wasn't either....WHY IS THIS? I guess some are good, some are bad. What makes a good one, what makes a bad one? The fact that engkiat was talking about all the pre-bundled software not working and hanging and that he cant the USB 3 working, suggests his experience was much the same as mine.

That is to say, (are you getting this Google search bot?):

His and my MSI GT70 2OD was faulty....nothing works.....faulty MSI Gt70 laptop broken USB .... bad drivers ... problems MSI GT70 poor design system hang, faulty DVD driver problems issues hot GPU artifacts too hot CPU poor workmanship bad support GT70 fail.

I have also never seen a perfect notebook nor a perfect PC setup for that matter. But the MSI GT70 2OD that I got was a mess. An absolute mess in its factory default flavour, so don't talk about 'knowing how to install drivers'. Everything came preinstalled. Accept that some of these models, are going out to customers an absolute mess, and if someone is reporting the exact same issues that I had, then I am interested to hear about it and to hear about where he sourced his laptop from. Even someone who has never worked in a production line environment before can surely relate to the idea of a 'faulty batch' due to some mischief or error occuring somewhere along the line? My fail GT70 2OD, and your apparent über GT70 2OD, could even have come out of completely different factories.

It is not hard to grasp.

The GT70 went back today, but I am finished with all this. I have ordered an outlet Alienware M17x as back up incase the replacement GT70 gives me the same hassles as before, which I suspect it might, in which case it will go straight back for refund and I will still have a decent laptop for my next 5 week stint at sea.

P.S. Please don't lecture me on the continuing negativity towards the GT70 2OD either, as you are now for some reason, pressing to get it out of me it seems.

 

I just think it's odd that the reviewer changed his tone about the GT70. He was all over it a few months ago. That and blaming the single fan design for the review model's overheating.

Then again, he slammed the m17x r4 after loving the r3.

 

every computer manufacturer/part manufacturer experiences problems such as these, no matter if its toshiba, msi, dell etc.... 100 percent perfection can't always be achieved. Whether it was negligent assembly, a hardware problem, or an incompatibility issue, it happens to every technology related company.

Also, good luck on the outlet alienware, those refurbished pcs can be a hassle.

 

Also, i just recieved my msi gt70 20D-001 US laptop the other day, and ofr a few hours the GPU would remain under full load at all times, but today its much better and the card idles in the low 40s.

 

Really?

Only bought it cos I thought it would get here quick, as opposed to the standard Dell fayre of three week delivery times.....It was only intended as a placeholder but yet more headaches is the last thing I am wanting....will see what 2moro brings and then I may cancel it.

 

The Killer Beta v1.0.19.1097 driver works very well on W7 x64,W8 and on the leaked Windows 8.1(Blue) releases.

It has a new look interface.
Killer Gaming :: Support :: Driver Downloads

The old interface driver v6.1.0.596 can be found here.
Qualcomm, Atheros, Zidas, Attansic, Intellion drivers, firmwares

 

Hi all, i bought my msi from EXcaliberPC.com - Notebooks, Netbooks, Storage, Memory, Hardware, Networking and more!

Its a US set. And the same device that cannot connect to USB 3 ports have no problem being recognized by the USB 2 ports. I have a total of 6 x USB 3 hdd of various brands including seagate, western d, Hitachi, Samsung etc. .

My GPU constantly hovers between 85-87 degree celsius when i run Madvr processing- am now suspecting GPU throttling cos madvr processed; video dropped frames doesnt improve even after i increase the clock speed by 100 MHz via msi afterburner. Can i check if the speed throttling will be displayed in afterburner or GPU-z, or the latter will only show the overclocked speed to users?

Thanks!
EK

 

:hi2 MatTheCat,

Nooooo, please don't cancel that outlet AW M17x! I am thinking this will probably be a very nice fit.

Clearly you are frustrated, and understandably so...... but RMA's are not the end of the world, and unfortunately they are a reality. Believe me, we ALL know the issues you've had...... which began with the 3.0 ports, and escalated further as you tried to resolve the problems yourself. Don't get me wrong here...... yes there have been a few reports of USB 3.0 issues, but this does not mean the issue is rampant. Those reporting these issues need to get with MSI, and undoubtedly the manufacturer will work to resolve these issues. So goes the life of the early adopter...... been there, done that many times.

All I have attempted to reason, is no need making mountains out of mole-hills. Obviously you are not getting this, and the continued rant is not doing any good, and WE are having to read it! You could have summarized your issues in just a few paragraphs, or a few post...... but you seem intent on bashing the manufacturer, and surmising boogers behind every tree.

If I again am given the prospects of RMA, I think my post would read something like this, 'Hey Guys, Bummer! Another dang RMA! I have issues with x, y, and z, and it's heading back to the repair center. I'll keep you guys posted'. In truth, I have had an issue with my GT70 2OD...... a bad A-Data mem stick. So I boxed it up and shipped it right back to my reseller. No biggie, I expect these things..... it will be fixed, and while I am at it, I am having some upgrades done. So you see, you can rant & rave if you like, but no need to share it with the world. It's not helping you, or anyone else, and certainly not getting your notebook fixed.

Good luck with that M17x.

Looks like yet another report of USB 3.0, and temp issues (probably paste). I suggest getting with EXcaliberPC and see if they will assist. If not, get with MSI as soon as possible.

 

So far I haven't had any problems with my 040US Dragon 2.

Temps seem normal and everything I've plugged into the USB 3.0 ports has run OK.
(mostly USB 2.0 thumb drives or mice), but I just plugged in my Western Digital 3TB My Book Essential USB 3.0 external drive and the GT70 recognized it straight away. I'm currently copying nearly 17GB of files to it from the 1TB internal HDD - no problems!

 

Use MSI afterburner, but if it doesn't work (I noticed that some games, for example, crash when running afterburner in the background) use GPUz and enable the Log to txt. Use the software, also keep HW Monitor open, and check max temps all in all. GPU starts downclocking to stock performance (770mhz) when it reaches 92 degrees. Monitor clockspeeds, utilization and temps. It should give you an idea of what's going on.

As for the USB 3.0 that sucks man, hopefully it won't be a hardware issue. Have you tried uninstalling said devices or monitoring device manager when you connect your devices to see what is being picked up?

 

First, sorry to hear that you are having issues with your laptop. I would contact your reseller either get a full refund or exchange.

Manufacturer defect happens and so is any other brands that includes AW, just Google it and you will find similar complaint on any other major brands and you are just one of the unlucky one. Most of the GT70 2OD owners does not experience the issues you are having.

 

In my most quiet and serene voice....

....OcUK, has tested my replacement laptop, they report that at full load:

CPU 80C GPU 80C (after one benchmark).....this would certainly be a 10 C improvement on the GPU........I still feel that the CPU is rather hot....perhaps Haswell are hot by (failure of) design. Although it may work well to begin with, perhaps it will degenerate much quicker than a cooler yet similar performing IvyBridge CPU.

If I dont get a replacement GT70 2OD, I can get a Ivybridge GT70 Flex model with GTX680M, at a considerable discount.......

Based on these temps (after one benchmark that stressed CPU and GPU seperate), what would be your own opinion on the viability of the sort of GT70 2OD that OcUK have in stock? Repasting is out of the question here, as both myself, and the reseller are unwilling to go through the 'Warranty Voided' sticker.

 

First of all, removing the Warranty sticker dos not void your warranty as confirmed by many resellers and MSI themselves. Heck, mine didn't even come with one.

Second of all, temps from 80-90C are perfectly normal for this level of hardware.

 

Thanks to you both

Yeah its like Anandtech went allin against MSI for some reason. I really didn`t care about the comments on Anandtech calling me a "shill". Its just people who is incapable of having a debate with me, so instead they throw out personal attacks. You always find "defendors" of reviewer sites.

 

Hmmmmmm, this is one reason why it's advantageous purchasing from a custom building reseller. As xMAR99 points out, the temps are certainly within the normal range. It doesn't sound like you have actually RMA'ed the system, but rather you are dealing with your retailer. You just recently purchased from OcUK, right? What is there refund, return, and exchange policy? Can you get them to exchange your unit? This is what it sounds like you are doing.... so, for peace of mind you could attempt to locate an MSI authorized custom builder in your area, and have them re-paste (w/ICD) the CPU, GPU, and VRAM. If you can not find one of these in your area, you could still have this done by a competent local notebook repair center..... warranty sticker, or not...... or do it yourself if you feel comfortable and have the technical skill. For the most part factory paste jobs are OK, but sometimes it's hit or miss (often too much paste), so in high-end systems, it never hurts to 'know' your paste.

In any event, I wish you a much better experience with your replacement unit.

 

I get my replacement GT70 2moro...I shall let you know how the USB 3 is.....the reseller said that it worked with various USB 3 devices.

And yeah, if your GPU is being throttled, it will show up on MSI Afterburner either by underclocking your card or throttling its resources.....i.e. if your card underclocks itself or is giving you 50% or whatever in a demanding 3D application, that also isn't resulting in a CPU bottlenecking situation, then probably/maybe your card is throttling.

Unfortunately the UK doesn't really do specialist barebone resellers of premium component laptop. As far as I am aware, there is pretty much OcUK and SCAN. The only outlet that does proper full customised gaming laptops would be the UK 'branch' of the German clevo based XMG.

I would be quite confident of repasting myself, if not for the sticker. My reseller actually informed me that they could not repaste because of the sticker but I shall look into this further when I get back from my next stint away, as clearly a laptop that runs at 65C is going to have much more life in it and/or performance headroom than one that runs at 80-90C

 

There is 0 chance that the CPU will run at 65C while gaming. No chance. Unless you use turbo fan...

 

If you're worried about the sticker contact MSI in your region.

Here's the UK info:
MSI Computer (UK) Ltd.

Tel: +44-203-608-5252
Tel: +44-870-8200-009 (Note/Netbooks/Fullsystems ONLY. NO Components/Motherboards/Graphic Cards.)
Fax: +44-203-608-5253
Add: Unit 3, Swallowfield Centre, Swallowfield Way, HAYES, Middlesex UB3 1AW
Website: MSI UK - Computer, Laptop, Notebook, Desktop, Mainboard, Graphics and more

Everyone else go here first.
MSI UK - Contact Us

The sticker can easily be peeled off using a thin blade and put back when and if needed.

As Striker has mentioned,the overwhelming majority of new notebooks that I have opened including my own that have the factory applied thermal compound(MSI = MX2) have had way too much applied to both the GPU and CPU.

The too much TC problem can easily be remedied without the need to repaste.Simply use the straight edge of an old credit card and perform a squeegee type action across the surface of the chips and heatsinks.The TC is only needed to replace trapped air.The more the metal to metal contact between the chip and heatsink the better the heat transfer.

 

A lot of folks get concerned with the sticker...... some overly so, but this is understandable. My experience says MSI will honor the warranty, so long as you have done nothing to cause the unit's failure. If you replace or add a component, naturally that specific component is not covered, but all else remains in force. Even when components are upgraded by an authorized reseller, those components are not covered by MSI, but rather the customizing reseller...... and all else remains covered by MSI's warranty. Besides, if a manufacturer gives say, a 2 yr warranty, they are betting you will get at least that longevity from the product. Soooo, you can wait 2 yrs for the warranty to expire, and then re-paste, or do it now..... your choice. Personally I don't sweat that sticker so much. You aren't going to do anything that will shorten the notebook's longevity, are you? Of course not..... so if you are technically competent, I think folks here are telling you to be creative...... and don't sweat the small stuff.

 

It's obvious that there are dealers selling MSI notebooks in some regions that are intimidated by the sticker and are uninformed about the MSI policy regarding the sticker.

Russia is the one place that I've heard of where the warranty will be voided if the sticker is broken.

I've had notebooks at the MSI notebook service center here in Seoul with broken or missing stickers without any problems.

 

I sent a nice email to the guy who did the review and got a response. Looks like we'll have no chance of getting an update


"I am not re-doing the review. I don't have that kind of time.

If MSI released a notebook that has a bad TIM job on the CPU and GPU, that's *their* problem and *their* fault. It's not my job to fix it. I maintain their cooling system is inadequate compared to systems from ASUS and Alienware and even Clevo. There's no reason to re-do the review because even if it didn't have ridiculous thermal problems, I *still* wouldn't recommend it over the competing notebooks.

-Dustin"

 

for anybody who is interested here's my 3dmark11 benchmark scores (stock an overclock) for my gt70 with 4700mq & gtx780m. anyone getting any better?

stock

core 849
mem 2500



overclock to:

core 980
mem 3000

 

WOW just....I knew it. Well that settles it. Davos and Anandtech have gone down the drain. They just lost all their credibility to review a notebook.

First of all, the noise in the newest Clevo P177SM is 53.8dB on full load.

The noise level on the newest GT70 is 46.8dB max. That is very much lower than the noise level from the P177SM.

Then if we look at the temperatures between the two:

P177SM with dual fan during stress test:

GT70 with single fan during stress test:

So to summarize: During totally unrealistic stress tests like Furmark and Prime95, benchmarks known to kill the hardware from time to time because of all the sick stress, GT70 only runs 5C higher on the GPU and CPU but its a world of difference in terms of noise levels between the two.

So Davos and Anandtech is uneducated when they say Clevo have much better cooling system. That is dead wrong and a lie.
Davos even acknowledge that the notebook they reviewed perhaps had a bad paste job, but haven`t written anything about it in the review. Instead they use it to kick MSI down and blame the cooling system, fan and heatsinks, for it.

And they haven`t even mentioned all the other goodies you get with MSI vs Clevo.
Like much better speakers, Steelseries keyboard, better screen, Raid setup with 3 SSDs etc.

Its almost like they have an agenda against MSI.

 

The results do look suspect, but I would not say that Anandtech has lost all credibility forever because of it.

The Notebookcheck Clevo measurements were taken with old heatsinks. Besides, I think that the reviewer is comparing the MSI to previous Clevo systems, not those offered in this generation.

He did mention the better keyboard and SuperRAID, but I can tell just from looking at it that the layout is a pain; speakers are almost trivial on laptops; the MSI screen is not better.

Because the reviewer praised the MSI chassis in the Valkyrie cz-17 and Cyberpower Fangbook reviews, I wouldn't say that he has an agenda against MSI. Perhaps something else is amiss. He tends to write vitriolic reviews when he is disappointed in a notebook; read the review of the m17x r4.

I don't intend to defend Anandtech, but Cloudfire seems unreasonable here.

 

Yeah, compare a notebook with a hotter GPU against a system with less cores. Makes sense.
Speakers is not trivial thank you. I used mine very often and that sound, just amazing.
As for the screen, just skimmed through the review and it looks like GT70 and P177SM use the same screen.

But the keyboard and the noise level and the speakers is better. Plus the Raid system.
But just because of the slightly better thermal (I base it on the notebook they tested), its suddenly better than MSI and he can recommend it, but not the MSI.

Something is very fishy with his attitude. Not even trying to get in touch with MSI and correct it. "Too much work". Great attitude...

Bah I`m done with them, and I`m wasting too much energy on it. *ignore*

 

Meh, during GentechPCs video preview of the gt60, the CPU shot up to over 90c during 3dmark vantage (which is hardly an intensive benchmark). Sure, no production run is 100% perfect, but bad paste jobs seem to pop up more than they should.

The average user isn't going to open up their notebook to repaste, nor should they be expected to. My opinion is that if MSI doesn't consistently apply the thermal paste properly, then the reviews could (and should) reflect that.

That said, my gt60 is awesome and has good temps.

 

pcmark score 6029

 

Despite the reseller telling me he tested the USB 3 device, my Samsung M3 USB 3 device still doesn't work on my replacement Laptop....

Despite the reseller telling me that the internet works through the Killer E2200....it stutters and strangulates itself....

Apps on Windows 8 stalling and crashing all over the shop.....again....and with Windows 8, that means the desktop as well.

I have not tested the temps yet, I dont think I have the heart.

I had a dream last night where I was a clown. I think my subconscious must be telling me something. I am an idiot. But you don't have to be. RMA your laptop, and get something completely different. I am not going to work myself into a state over this as I am now in the position of knowing where it will lead to. I will now have this laptop for a 5-6 week trip at sea. As soon as I am back, it gets RMAd for a refund, and I will also buy something else completely different.

Before all you MSI franchisees jump on my back, I am aware that your Gt70s are apparently all great. Good for you all. But there are clearly something wrong with a good number of these laptops. Installing Windows 7 does of course result in a much smoother and more stable OS, but at the cost of some functions of the laptop and without proper driver support.

My GT70 was the GT70 2OD 099UK from OcUK, but I would wager all the UK models will be cut from the same cloth......avoid.

 

Question: Do you have any antivirus on your notebook? Avast + Killer didn`t go well on my GT70. Not sure if they were uncompatible or if it was Avast just messing it up, but disabling Avast, and I got no stuttering

 

Sorry for your continued bad experience, but I can't help feeling there is more to this story, that is untold...... but no need to go into this. What is important however, is your intent to refund. If you want to get a refund, time is of the essence. You need to check with OcUK, and discuss their refund policy, because if you wait 5 to 6 weeks, it may be too late for a refund. My hunch is you need to get your refund PRIOR to your trip. Otherwise you may be stuck with a notebook you are unsatisfied with. Don't expect to later RMA the notebook to MSI for a refund. Refunds normally come from your retailer, or reseller, and not the manufacturer..... and most have very limited policy for refunds.

Overclockers UK Technical Support, Warranty and Returns Policy

Good luck!

 

What horrible abuse of quotation marks

 

Wow all this bad-paste posts scares me out xD can someone shows me something simple for non-computer genius to check on the temp?,, im sory but i nver touch all those oc, benchmarking, settings etc, elsewhere i think im good thanks

 

All good resellers should have done a burn in test to check temperatures.

 

For temperature's concern been running Witcher 2 on ultra (quite demanding game actually) for more than 3 hours with fan boost. Temps dont go over 65. So impressed. I like to just put my hands on the side of the laptop and feel how cold it is.

 

Yeah the temps are great on my MSI, even without the turbo boost fan, the temps never go past 70C. With the turbo fan, most demnding games run in the mid 60s.

 

Yeah i get around the same for stock and OC, although I cant get the memory to 3000mhz without artifacts, but 135 core and +250 mem seems to be the sweet spot for my system and i get around an 8500 GPU score, Id probably be able to get around 8600 if i was able to push the memory another 200mhz or so.