The Official MSI GT70-2OD Owner's Lounge

It's more about the core for the P score at this point. I have made runs with +135/+500 and my max was 8675 score for GPU. The xtreme score benefits from the extra memory bandwidth more, but an increase in core clock would yield higher GPU clocks.

 

Quick question: do the MSI's with the msata SSDS allow up to 3 mSATA ssds? what im basically asking is, do the msata caddys offered with the gt70/60 series allow 1 or 3 msata ssds?

 

Yes the newer models have 3 mSATA slots. You can place 1, 2 or 3 mSATA SSDs indipendent or RAID 0/1. The "older" GT70 model had SuperRAID with only 2 mSATA slots

 

Hi guys. Been lurking in this thread for the past month. I'm planning on getting a 2OD very soon. Was originally going to go with the 0NE, but then found out new models were coming out.

Firstly, let me say that I love your devotion to the brand and helping each other out. I have been pondering a gaming laptop purchase for a while and finally settled on the MSI. I've fallen in love with it actually and the feedback I've heard on this site tells me I have chosen wisely.

Secondly, are there any Aussies on here that have one? If so, where is the cheapest place to get one?

I look forward to being a regular here.

 

Thanks. yeah some people saw it's a single fan then think it's not good, but in-reality it works just as good as dual fan.

 

Yeah, MSI's cooling solution is a proven solution. This is not the first time it has been used, and MSI laptops have been using demanding hardware for a while Temps should not be a concern.

 

The new GT60/70 (Not sure barebones apply here) series have space for up to three mSata HDDs in what used to be the top Sata slot. Previous versions allow only up to two.

 

Heheheh....... I sent my unit back to Ken, so he could sweetened my three mSATA slots...... check out the SIG and behold the Super Dragon, LOL!

Ken will be returning the notebooks shortly, so I'll benchmark these new SSD's soon.

And for the folks concerned with temps, I certainly wouldn't spend on upgrades, if I felt cooling was an issue for this notebook. My temps were great beforehand, and I anticipate even better when it's returned.

 

This model has cooling improvements and the last one could run a 680m at 1033/2600 and 4.2ghz ivy 24/7.

 

This, I just don't get.

Can it really just be down to thermal grease that everyone else reports temperatures 20 C lower than what I get?

I am now on my 2nd GT70 2OD 099UK. Despite assurances from the reseller that the temps were a bit lower.....the temps are actually just the same.

Playing Witcher 2 results in 99% GPU usage which in turns leads to 90C+ temperatures pretty fast. Unlike with the first GT70 I had, not suffering any glitches or artifacting........yet, but then I aint burned this one in like I did the other either. Might just have to grow a pair of balls, ignore that Warranty Voided, and do a paste job of my own.

Anyone got know of links to any guides?

(I have built my own PCs for years but always nice to have something showing where everything is slotted together)

 

Nice one -=$tR|k3r=- !

I've been thinking about the 240GB Mushkin's.
Slightly less capacity than the Plextor but they should be a bit faster (at least on paper anyway).

I also badly want to replace the stock 1TB 5400rpm storage drive with an SSD.
I'm thinking either an 840 Pro 512GB or an M500 960GB.

 

From the main post.... GT70 Disassembly guide: http://forum-en.msi.com/faq/uploads/156/MS-1762_Disassembly_guide.pdf
(May not be exact to your model - but the instructions should give you a pretty good idea of where things are - proceed with an ounce of caution and you'll be fine).

 

regarding repasting the 780m on the dragon edition 2:

i've repasted the gpu with icd7 (not bothered about the warrenty sticker. removed it with a blade). not seen much improvement. temps on auto fan get to 89 oC on crysis 2 on ultra settings. with cooler boost on and ear plugs in it is about 75oC. is there any compound that's better than icd7?

also can the thermal bridge be pasted?. it currently has a big thermal pad on it.

thanks.

 

Hmm 99% usage? Dont know if its a similar thing, but I had main drive ( C ) usage on 97-99% because one Antivirus was bugged or something, and I just had to close it (by closing every background app). Everything run really slow and I thought that its hardware issue. After closing Antivirus it went down to 5%.

Maybe not similar, but even with my little knowledge, I dont think that it should be using all GPU oO

 

davepearson is a nice British sounding name!

Not that this will help your issue but are u in the UK and did you source your GT70 from the UK batch of GT70's?

Either we have loads of liars on this forum or there are grade B batches of GT70s going around.....perhaps the majority of them are going to be 'grade B' and the earliest adopters who are all reporting super low temps and everything else working sweet, got the cherry picked models sent out to review sites and resellers who put out their own reviews?

Yes, as much GPU as it takes to max the game out, should be used. Since the GTX 780M doesn't come near to maxing The Witcher 2 out, so long as their is not bottlenecking elsewhere, the GPU should operate at 100%

 

Bought it new from US. Model - GT70 2OD-039US.

Even though temps are a bit high i am still happy with my purchase. A big improvement over my old clevo p150hm.

Pros:

1. Looks good

2. Good fan profile and 1 fan. Almost inaudible when doing normal tasks e.g office, internet, youtube vids etc. Fan does not cycle on and off like my old clevo P150HM so less annoying.

3. good touchpad. A lot better than the rubberised one on the p150hm.

4. good sound quality.

Cons

1. A bit heavy

2. Expensive.

 

I'm still curious as to the difference between these two models:

Model - GT70 2OD- 039US.
Model - GT70 2OD- 040US.

Spec's wise they look to be the same. the only difference I see is that 039 is primarily sold in the US and other markets, whereas 040 is sold in Canada. I don't know why Canada would get a different model number though, doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense?

 

I'm getting pretty much the same: (on stock), but using the MSI Hybrid power and full fan (not that either of these makes much difference).

best Score: P7381, most around P7350

Max Temps (during 3dmark 11) without Cooler Boost: 83 CPU and 84 GPU.(don't think there is any throttling).
Max Temps (during 3dmark 11) with Cooler Boost: 73 CPU and 70 GPU.

 

https://www.zercom.eu/index.php?dispatch=checkout.cart#dispatch-products.view///product_id-280371

Holy ! GT70 2OD Dragon Edition for €1.954! Instantly ordered it!

However, is the cooling on the MSI realy that bad (you know, from that article)?

 

best score I can get with overclock is 8269. Core wont go above 980 because vbios is locked.

no throttling during benchmarks.

Info: I think the gpu is set up to only throttle if temp goes above 91 oC.

 

lower spec than the US one but a decent price.

 

It's weird though, cus at other webshops the cheapest GT70 2OD costs €2599 (4700MQ, 2x 128GB SSD, non-Dragon Edition). So basicly, this is verry nice, considering the GT70 0NE (680M) costs €1800.

 

price doesn't look right for the one you linked. i think you should check with the seller. it lists 3 different product codes for the same laptop:

GT70 2OD-087NL
GT70 2OD-078NL
GT70 2OC-048NL

dont think its the dragon edition GT70 2OD-078NL becuase they are selling that on the same website for 4000 euros.

 

It more like 84c, at stock clock it doesn't matter what temperature there is no throttling. When temperature reach 84c on an over clocked it will downclocked.

 

dont think you are right. because i dont see any change in clocks until 91 oC. runs steady at 980mhz until 91 then clocks down to 900-967. also nvidia inspector says 91 oC. i could be wrong but i dont see any change at 84 when overclocked.

 

I don't know how he ordered it, I just tried and it would not deliver to the UK

The GT70 2OD-078NL is the same spec as the American one, the specs given on the dutch website are for a different computer, the vendor number is for a much lower spec machine totally (GT70 2OC-048NL )
I think they have made a mistake and would probably cancel the order their end.

 

https://www.zercom.eu/index.php?disp...duct_id-280371

I just tried to order one of these, as the price was good, in fact very good.

The spec is the same as the American one GT70 2OD-078NL I just checked the spec on a different site.

They wouldn't deliver to the UK so would be interested if the OP had a similar issue (and if he did how he got around it ( if you can get one at this price I am still very interested)

Failing this I will buy a UK edition GT70 2OD-200UK

Good choice or not? its pushing he boat out price wise for me.

 

You are correct dave. At 92c is the top temp by which the gpu downclocks. Mine goes back to stock clocks from its turbo boost as soon as i reach 91-92 until it stabilizes. But i recomment using turbofan when overclocking that way i stay on the 80s temps even at 980/2900 clocks.

 

OP location says amsterdam. that's how he ordered it. but likely it'll get cancelled.

 

Yes, those Mushkin SSD's will be a great choice! I would have gone with those too, but I wanted to try the new Plextor's...... and how they manage their firmware (Marvell). (once again an early adopter...... can't help myself! ) As far as the 5400RPM HDD, not that it really matters a lot, but it was BUG'in me, LOL! If you get the Mushkin's, we can do a hardcore comparison..... let me know!

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For those still fussing about the temps, listen to a voice of reason...... please READ ryzeki's GT60 2OD review! Gaming notebooks are not your average notebook, packed with the latest power hungry hardware, they all get warm when stressed under load..... especially for extended periods. Temperature control, power management, and mitigating throttling is a battle waged by all manufacturers...... and given the GT70 2OD's hardware, MSI is doing a pretty good job.

Look the last 3 notebooks in my sig. I am not the fan-boy of any manufacturer. In the next round of new tech, I may be sporting an AW, an ASUS, a Sager/Clevo, heck even an HP or Toshiba...... IF, at that time, they offer the best over-all representation of the technology, with the best bang for the buck. It just so happens, MSI fit that bill in the last few rounds.

With regard to cooling, I think there are a few points to consider, such as ambient room temps. I see a lot of folks posting their notebook temps, but no mention of the ambient temps at the time. This can make a world of difference, and is helpful in understanding a baseline temp for your notebook. Take a look at what ryzeki reports in his review. Unlike ryzeki, I am normally using my notebook in an environmental range of 72 to 78F.

When checking your temps, what are the conditions of use? Normal gaming use, benchmarks, or are you stress testing? Are you using the notebook as intended by design, or are you driven to stress test hardware to it's limits, even failure? Are you one of these folks that frequently uses the notebook while lying in bed? Believe it or not, many do, without any consideration to the notebooks ventilation. Are your vents free and clear of obstruction?

Is your TIM properly applied? Good question, and the only way you will know for sure, is to check this yourself, or have this done by a competent professional. This is important for all notebooks, but even more so critical with hi-powered gear. Now I know some of you are saying, 'This should be properly done by the manufacturer', and you are right, but I cannot begin to tell you the horrors seen from mass production..... and this can be an issue with any model/manufacturer. Normally when paste is a problem, it has been overly applied, and is more common than I'd like to think. 'Excess grease separating the metal surfaces more than the minimum necessary to exclude air gaps will only degrade conductivity, increasing the risk of overheating', so Yes, TIM application is very important.

Thermal grease - TIM (also review the 'References' footnotes)

Anyhow, given my conditions and use (with proper TIM application), the GT70 2OD actually runs cooler than I expected, and well within the normal operating range for it's hardware. Personally I am pleased with this notebook, and I have no regrets whatsoever.

 

Really? Mine will down clock whenever it hit 84-86c.

 

I'd really like to see a review that pit's all the current mSATA's together.
None I've read so far have the Mushkin and Plextor drives in the same review

The reviews I have seen for the Mushkin seem a little disappointing. Look's like the paper spec's of these drives are just that... paper spec's. Seems as though the Crucial M4 is a generally stronger performer. The Plextor M5M also looks to be a winner - though the lack of over-provisioning is slightly worrisome (although likely not much of an issue with over 700GB of available storage when using 3x256GB drives).

 

Hi Mat,
Are you able to help me check the USB 3 ports if they operate at full speed, and if windows update always hang at 15%?

thanks!
EK

 

Only problem I've encountered so far with my MSI GT70 is when i exit out of final fantasy 14 beta, it can freeze my desktop. It wont freeze the start menu or anythign else, just the desktop. Kind of annoying, I don't know if its a problem related to my MSI, a problem with ff14 beta and windows 8 a combination of all 3, or faulty drivers. I hope its not a problem wit my laptop because performance wise, it blows my old toshiba qosmio x775 with a 560mgtx out of the water.

 

Probably not Win8. I played the beta on a model with a Win8, i5 and a 640m model with no issues. It's probably a small bug in FFXIV.

 

For UK buyers, this may be of interest:

Medion Erazor X7827

This appears to be the GT70 2OD with Medion branding, and at a pretty good price of £1449
- Disadvantages:
- only 1 year warranty vs 2 year from MSI
- 128GB SSD vs the mSata raid
- I wonder if it still supports the MSI Matrix Display (4 screens).

 

Does anybody know where I can buy an MSI Warranty Extension Package from?

(mentioned here on MSI UK - Warranty Information)

 

Temps are just fine after repaste even with i7-4900MQ and overlocked, I don't think there is anything wrong with the single fan design, your unit is looking good :

 

The temps on CPUID on that model are looking fantastic......especially just after having conducted a stress test. However, I notice in MSI Afterburner, that the GPU is only 100% utilised in a very short burst. Surely, this cannot be counted as a test on how high the temperatures hit on hte laptop? In Witcher 2, the GPU will be at 100% all the time. In BF3 online, both the GPU and the CPU will be at 100%, all the time.

Having said that, the idle temps are still 7-8 C lower than mine are, which sounds to me more like the sort of difference a good paste job will make.....as opposed to the 25C cooler 'full load' temps......

.....also, werethe hairdryer turbofans on during that test?

EDIT: I have just had word from reseller that I can go ahead and do a pastejob. What is the preferred method these days. Small line in centre of the chip or spread evenly with a razor blade? Anyone got any tips otherwise before I open the machine up?

 

Has anyone hooked their unit up to say a 42-46 inch TV? When I've done this in the past, the picture stretches the desktop a tiny bit further than it should so that only half the start button is visible. I'm thinking this could be because I was only running 1366 x 768 res. Anyone tried the 2OD on one?

 

Lots of laptops do this.

There is a setting in the Intel Graphics Settings that allows you to properly adjust the picture.....I forget what it is called and I am not on my laptop at the moment, but it is there....under Display or Monitors, or something like that.

 

Wow, I am very confused right now reading all those posts. Still haven't heard about anything that they cancelled my order though.

 

they may not cancel your order. they will probably send you a different laptop from what you expect. its unlikely they'll send you the dragon edition 2.

it lists 3 different codes in the description. the vendor codes says GT70 2OC-048NL which is this:

MSI Gaming Series GT70 2OC-048NL

and GT70 2OD-087NL. you may get this if you are lucky:

MSI Gaming Series GT70 2OD-087NL

and it also lists the GT70 2OD-078NL. it's unlikely you'll get this one because it is listed separately on there website for 4000 euros.

https://www.zercom.eu/index.php?sub...=8#dispatch-products.view///product_id-280613

 

I've experienced this.
You need to change the picture setting on your TV. This explains it: Using TV screens as monitors (how to fix overscan/zoom) | Kate's Comment

On my LG I had to change the picture setting from 16:9 to "Just scan".

 

*Sigh*. Seems like there was a error on their site or something. Afterall it indeed is an 2OC. Seems like in the end I will go with Sager than (4800MQ, 780M, 16GB RAM, 750 7200 HDD, 256 SSD for €2,1K). Cancelled my order.

 

NICE! Thanks Ken :thumbsup:...... but I why isn't this on my door step? You are having fun playing with my notebook, aren't you? I am WAITING..... I wanna play too, LOL!

 

The point for the test is that the single fan performs the way it suppose to be, better than some dual fans out there.

The best method I found is a small line on the chip and apply pressure from the heatsink, try that and you will get good result.

It will arrive at your door step eventually, you can't play now because I got "your Dragon" right here.

 

Thanks Iron. I'll give it a try. Thanks to MattheCat for the response too.

 

Question: Does the issue of the touchpad deactivating whenever a key is pressed still exist?

 

Mine only deactivates when I plug in my mouse...never heard of the problem you speak of. Then again, I'm usually in the GT60-2OD section. An easy fn+F3 fixes it? But yeah I can see how that can be annoying...there HAS to be a setting somewhere to fix that. I'll explore the settings when I get home.