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    The Official MSI GT62VR Owners and Discussions Lounge

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Talon, Jul 14, 2016.

  1. NiksSk

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    Discussion without any arguments or opinions are just plain talk and we wouldn't gain anything from it. In my opinion.

    You can have discussions while staying friendly. But thank you, and good night :)
     
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    Bios can go up to 4133 mhz memory.
    Whether this WORKS is a different story.
    I've tested my 2400 mhz at 2666 mhz in GT73VR at very high timings. I believe one person got 2800 mhz memory working in the GT73 thread. Go into your Bios with the "AMIBCP" editor (you can get the file from Palesco's post on unlocking the Gt73VR Bios in the main MSI section, just grab it), open your bios for your GT72VR, and see if you have the "memory multiplier there. 2133 mhz should be 8 and 2400 mhz should be 9. If it goes higher than 9, than your laptop can 'potentially' accept faster memory. I said potentially.
     
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    You had an GT72VR, before 73, hadn't ya?
    One quick question if you remember, did undervolting for you in your unlocked bios?
     
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    I did -150mv on my GT72VR. yes, thanks to SVET.
     
  5. NiksSk

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    Maybe 72 is a bit different than 62.(apart from size)
    Any who, if you know anything about it. When applying undervolt around 100, for example, to core, ring, uncore and gt, only uncore,gt, and sometimes ring voltages are applied in system while core doesn't.
    Any ideas what it could cause? As it's a bit atrange that everything except core gets applied.
     
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    Can you take a picture of bios where you are putting the core undervolt? I was able to uv my cpu in unlocked bios but i have a GT72VR.
     
  7. NiksSk

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    Here ya go
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/bB8hGI8YcnGCd3Fu2
     
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    That doesn't sound right, Core undervolt should be affected / set too.

    Did you, or can you set undervolt via XTU from OS? You might try that and see if the Core undervolt is applied as set from an XTU profile.

    Here is a quick example, with Core Voltage Offset set to -100, along with other settings you might not be able to change, before being Applied:
    XTU Settings 5950HQ long batch job runs 35x -100mV cores -100mV cache.jpg
     
  9. NiksSk

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    So, this is right after boot. Core,GT, and Cache undervolted to -101 in bios
    CoreIA.PNG
    Core voltage is not set even though the option in bios is still at 101.

    And this is after I undervolted in Windows
    COREIA2.PNG
    it's working if I undervolt in Windows but not through Bios.



    I agree, it doesn't sound right.
    Edit: Messed up pictures.
     
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    Interesting, well at least you finally have an undervolt, and XTU Benchmark and Stress test is a good first litmus test on new settings.

    The range of stable undervolt reported is wide from -15mV to -220mV, YMMV.

    XTU has been reported to not apply Profile settings sometimes in Windows 10, some link it to having Fast Startup enabled - disabling Hibernation and rebooting has helped some.

    Once XTU notices a problem, a crash or improper shutdown, it won't load a save profile again until you enter XTU, select a Profile, and Apply it again.

    There is a thread on solutions, including startup scripts to automate settings each boot here:

    How to automatically under-volt in XTU without opening it
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-under-volt-in-xtu-without-opening-it.802143/

    You may not need it, but just in case :)
     
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    I wouldn't worry about XTU as I use Throttlestop to undervolt. I will still try to get the Core uv in bios working by messing with bios without messing with Intel ME or trying not to brick my laptop.
    Let's look on the brightside, don't have to play video games only to have fun.

    Thanks a million for the help though.
     
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    NP, happy to help, pass it on :)

    Have fun!
     
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    Well, that is strange...can you put a "0" on max oc ratio and removed all uv on gt,uncore, ring and left the -100mv on core voltage offset? If works on XTU, should be on Bios.
     
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    I just facepalmed myself. out of 7 options only 1 came with a value > 0, and it was one of the few options I didn't even try to disable to check out if it works or not.
    Thank you, you just solved my problem. :)
     
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    Np, we are here to help :)
     
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    Hello, I can't seem to output HDMI. I'm struggling to use my TV or monitor as a second screen to my MSIGT62VR laptop with a 1070.

    It used to work fine but now whatever monitor I plug it into I get a "no signal" message. I have tried 2 standard monitors and 1 x Sony 4K HD TV. As well as this I have tried 5 different HDMI cables. I know the cables and the ports on the monitors/TV are serviceable as my PS4 and partners laptop work with these ports/cables.

    I've done all the standard stuff regarding the windows and Nvidia settings. I've done hours and hours of googling but unfortunately nothing seems to help. The Nvidia control panel does see the display, but unfortunately no output - tried all resolutions/refresh rates etc etc.

    I have updated the BIOS/EC and Nvidia drivers. Unfortunately its still the same. I have discovered that if I set the display from the HDMI port on the laptop to 800x600 then I DO get a picture on the screen, although its a tiny 800x600. Any resolution other than the one stated just gives me a blank screen with writing along the lines of "No signal, check the external input". This is on a 2017 Sony Bravia 4k TV, which i've confirmed all the HDMI ports work up to 1080p.

    Under NVIDIA settings it can see the 'SONY TV' as a second display. Under 'View HDCP status' it states that my craphics card and display are HDCP-capable.

    I've just done a complete Windows 10 reinstall and it's the same. The HDMI port can't be broken as it occationally shows 800x600 with sound, and it always shows the TV/Montor under the nvidia settings and HDCP-capable.

    Help :(

    From reading online there are lots of things about HDMI and Windows updates but everything ive tried so far hasn't helped.
     
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    Anyone :(?

    I bought a USB-C to HDMI cable, to try the USB-C port on the back of the laptop. That didn't work either! I reinstalled Windows 10 and then tried windows 8.1. Still didn't work! It's either a BIOS issue or I assume hardware? Yet....the laptop/Nvidia control panel know when i've plugged something in and it displays the monitor/tv name in control panel, even the sound changes its source to HDMI.
     
  18. Falkentyne

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    What happens when you use a mini DP panel and hook a regular monitor into the back of the laptop? Does it work then?
    also did you try (Long shot), closing the laptop lid when you get the no signal on the TV, and (First, before that), go into advanced power options and turn off sleep / suspend mode when "lid is closed"? (You will obviously need an external keyboard and mouse to use it for that).
     
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    I don't have a mDP cable to try it.'

    I tried closing the lid etc but it didn't work :(
     
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    Hi Guys, hoping for some advice. I have the GT62 with 4K display, 6820HK and 1070.

    I was just wondering if anyone had tried replacing the screen with a 1080p panel? I can see that my screen has a 40 pin connector and the 1080p screen has a 30 pin connector. Would a 40 pin to 30 pin cable converter work?

    Just wanting to downgrade as prefer playing at 1080p for better performance and changing the resolution results in a washed out look on the 4k panel.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated!

    Thanks
     
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    You are talking about eDP to LVDS conversion, since it's a conversion it is do-able however it's not recommended as you will need an adapter board, please see below.
    http://www.xccfl.com/product_info.php?products_id=4948
    [​IMG]
     
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    Hi thanks for that helpful info! Doesnt look worth it now!

    Im not sure if the issue with my machine being under powered or its due to later versions of windows 10 but when I played Far cry 5 i would get nice frame rate of 75-90fps at 1440p but then every so often it hitches down to the 30-40fps region for a second and then jumps back up. Really annoying, never had the issue before but also go FF15 and I had the same issue with that
     
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    Hello all, can someone help me with this, my MSI is just 3-4 months old and recently i noticed that the the palm rest area on the right side of touch-pad gets a bit too warm while using chrome ONLY. i wasn't running any heavy softwares either. Even right now when i am writing this post, my laptop has been on for about an hour approximately (on battery) and the right side of the palm rest area is a bit uncomfortably warm, the left side of the touch-pad is also warm but very slightly. it didn't happen before, i just started noticing this in the last few weeks,
    Can someone please help if they know ANYTHING about it?
    Thanks in advance
     
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    I suddenly have a dead/stuck pixel in the middle of my display. I'm looking at getting a replacement, but have 3 questions:

    1. How do I determine if I have the 6RE or the 6RE Dominator Pro?
    2. Are there 120hz options? I have the 15.6" display (GT62VR)
    3. The only replacements I've found are here. Are these g-sync? (My laptop is currently equipped with a g-sync display)
     
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    Follow up Cpu temp with Hwinfo/Hwmonitor.
    [​IMG]
     
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    You have the drives on that side of the laptop so i'd say check the temperature of those. Also if you have Link Power Management disabled the drives will run faster as they won't go into the lower power mode, keep that in mind.

    Use helpdesk to retrieve that info, afaik the dominator pro is the one that has Tobii eye-tracking but i might be wrong, so just head into dragon center and use the helpdesk to export system info and find it out.
    I believe there aren't 120hz options for the GT62VR officially, i'm not sure about that.
    The 1080p screens should be g-sync compatible, the 4k ones aren't.
     
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    From @Sid Shah post... "my MSI is just 3-4 months old and recently i noticed that the the palm rest area on the right side of touch-pad gets a bit too warm".

    I would follow Cpu and PCH temp.
     
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    Well i have the same "issue" as him during summer and that usually happens when the SSD reaches high temperatures, i'd check those too no doubt :)
     
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    Yeah. The placement on the ssd's aint the best. Exactly as the MSI barbones. Really need a ssd cooler. And put in quality NVMe ssds who don't run hot as some of them does. If the ambient is not changed, he need look other places.
     
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    How do you clean the keyboard on this laptop? Can we just remove the keys and push it back in after removing stuff underneath it?
     
  31. macmyc

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    Nope it's not that easy, afaik if you remove the keys you can easily break them. Honestly i'd use an air can, it will do most of the job without removing anything.
     
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    As macmyc said, these keys are very easy to break because they are made of soft plastic/membrane. It's easy to break the clip while removing it, and it's difficult to put it back in.
    Additionally, if you are going to use air, use either compressed air can, or blower, but with none of heat element inside as they can be melted easily.
     
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    Alright, thanks macmyc and Kevin! I'll do that instead. Good day!
     
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    So I ordered one of these screens and got it installed today:
    https://www.laptopscreen.com/English/screen-part-number/N156HCE-EAA/

    And I don't have the option for g-sync in nvidia control panel. I guess these don't support g-sync? Unless I'm missing something?
     
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    I really do not know, the first link you posted showed some panels that were supposed to be original, no? This doesn't seem to be used in any MSI GT62VR..

    before replacing it did you have a 4k panel or 1080p ? If it was 4k you also had a vbios that wasn't gsync compatible so i guess you have to count that too
     
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    I did purchase from the first link I posted, I just sent the latest link by searching their site for their product # that was in the invoice. They should be the same panel, though apparently not original.

    My original display is a 1080p g-sync. I will have to reach out to the supplier and see if they know any more. Thanks for the help!
     
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    I had a nice chat with someone at laptopscreen.com (where I ordered it) and he said that I got a replacement screen, not an exact original, which is required for g-sync to work. So to anyone looking to replace a g-sync display, contact the reseller and make sure it's the exact original display, not a replacement (equivalent). Luckily, laptopscreen.com has a great return policy (45 days, post-install is ok!)

    Does anyone happen to have a link to an original LP156WF6 (SP) (B1) display? Hopefully that they've verified as g-sync compatible?
     
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    i am old member, I have a question.

    I need to get my computer fixed (ive posted on this before looking for solutions.) I want to send my pc into warranty, but i need my serial number for my pc.

    The sticker on the bottom of my computer has lost its stick and is not there anymore. Its GONE.

    I've searched around and you can find the pc's serial number in command prompt, And it says its the same serial number as the one on the back.

    Is this true or not? My dad is saying it's not it, but i'm not so sure about it.
     
  39. Pedro69

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    [​IMG]

    You also can find the S/N in the box,

    https://register.msi.com/page/how_to_identify
     
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    Hello guys! I have a very easy question for anyone who can answer it.

    I'm going to perform a totally clean install of W10 on my GT62VR 6RD (after more than one year of hard use, I think it's time to do it). In which order should I install the drivers (provided by MSI) afterwards?
    I remember that some time ago the order appeared on the laptop drivers webpage, but now its gone.

    Thanks!
     
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    You can find it with Help Desk afaik, just head into Dragon Center and click on it.
     
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    In terms of utility software, I would suggest the System control manager first. Then the rest shouldn't really depend on order. For drivers, you would want to see if there is anything "acting up" then do that one first, like trackpad, etc.
     
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    Follow the same order in this thread:

    MSI GT75 TITAN Drivers
     
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    How old is your PC? Do you still have the box? Without SN you can only request for OOW RMA. It's important to register your PC when you get it, this way you can secure your purchase.
     
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    EUROCOM offers the MSI MS16L1 that is an bearbone laptop that is identical to the GT62VR. Also EUROCOM offers upgrade part for that laptop that can be used in the GT62VR, including 60HZ GSYNC (LP156WF6-SPB1), 120Hz or 4K pannels (plus fans, heatsink and many other parts). Also take in to account that those parts are not cheap.

    http://www.eurocom.com/ec/upgrade(2,398,0)MSI_MS16L1

    Hope this help

    Edit: link added
     
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    Holy moley those prices are insane.. $80 for a fan?
     
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    What type of sorcery hocus pocus is this?
    The fans cost $10 directly from MSI, if your system is under warranty.

    If your system is not under warranty, bet off contacting MSI or emailing tom_ho (or tomho) at MSI.com and ask how much they will sell fans for.
    If that's out of the question, buy the fan on ebay (aliexpress might be slow shipping). They average around $30 on ebay. Do NOT pay $80 for a fan. that's highway robbery.
     
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    http://www.eurocom.com/ec/upgrade(2,398,0)MSI_MS16L1
     
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    MSI usually sells fans OOW for about $25~$35.
     
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    And the fact that Eurocom tries to get away with charging $80 for a $30 part is why on one in the world should ever conduct business with them.
     
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