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Using AIDA64 and CPU-Z, here are the screenshots. Could this be unreliable? Any other low level way to check?

 

CPUZ is pretty reliable.
You can do a comparison on memory benchmark performance with and without the extra DIMM module.

 

I posted the performance gains by activating dual-channel mode here.

 

Yup, the results are much better.

 

You guys all migrate to Fall Creators Update okay? I tried upgrading then it wouldn't recognize my gpu (1070.) I'd just like to know if it's something that happens or I'm the only one (with GT62-6RE.) I skimmed through the past year of postings on this thread and I didn't see anyone mention it and thread search is borked or something (so forgive me if people mentioned this already.) I DID see results for mentions of not recognizing gpu after FC update on regular google search.

Currently I'm on Anniversary. I think I'll just stick with it till this thing dies. or maybe try the slimmed down FC ISO later.

 

Many registry entries/DLL files have been changed with the Fall Creators Update rendering any upgrade buggy as heck. If you want to install it, then the best way is to get the latest drivers and do a clean install

 

MSI users,

Do you uninstall dragon center when using Throttlestop? I am concerned they conflict with each other since they both control cpu performance. I just want to undervolt. Is it better to use intel xtu with msi dragon center? They come bundled together from MSI website.

 

I use Intel XTU, ThrottleStop UI isn't that much friendly to me. However if you want to enable Intel Speed Shift throttlestop is the only quick and easy solution for us since MSI didn't enable it in the BIOS.

 

@macmyc did you apply any CPU tweaks other than undervolting? I undervolted by 70mV then by 100mV but can't get more than 670-678cb and 81fps on cinebench R15. I am curious how you and others get 687cb and 98fps!

Macmyc's score vs My score before undervolt: 687cb vs 660cb
Machmyc's score vs My score after undervolt: 684cb vs 678cb

Macmyc's OPENGL score vs My OPENGL score: 98fps (GTX1060) vs 81fps(GTX1070) !!

Screenshots in spoiler below.

Note: @macmyc has GTX1060 while I have GTX1070. And he is not using Throttlestop. My 3DMark scores are very good. So how come?

Extremely disappointing because i cannot think of any other reason why my performance is crippled like that. How come the GTX1060 scores much higher than my GTX1070 on OpenGL test?!

Spoiler: Macmyc Cinebench R15 Scores

Spoiler: My Cinebench R15 Scores -100mV Undervolt

 

I only got an undervolt of -150mv on the cpu, nothing else

 

Thanks. You recently updated your BIOS. Can you please rerun the OpenGL test? 98fps vs 81fps is very weird for GTX1060 vs GTX1070 respectively.

Did you overclock your GPU?

 

88 fps, no overclock

 

May I please know what is your nvidia driver version?

 

390.65

 

I have 118.8 fps of OpenGL and 650-670 CPUs with disable Cpu C states.
And 106.9 fps OpenGL and 684 CPUs with enable Cpu C states.

All these synthetic tests do not make any sense. They can be done endlessly and still they will not make sense.
The mobile processor of the notebook is limited by energy-saving technologies and it will constantly work differently.
The operation of the video card and processor also depends on the performance modes, OS scales, and drivers

 

Thanks Semmy.

But everybody seems to consistently have a higher opengl score than mine, especially owners with gtx1060 while i have gtx1070. It is alarming in my opinion. Wolfenstein the old blood is an opengl game.

 

so i have had my MSI GT62VR 6RE for about a year and i want to know if i can upgrade the GTX 1070 to a 1080 and if so what MXM version do you think i will need. also im not sure about the difference in power requirements...(the max wattage that power brick can put out is 290... so idk)

i only want to upgrade because i want to use this machine for VR but i am worried that some of the games say the recommended graphics card is a 1080 (im looking into getting OrbusVR) and i dont want to have VR sickness... (i havent tried it at all anyway as i am getting my oculus + touch in about 2 or 3 weeks)

 

I guess that is not possible without some heavy modifications to the heatsink and possibly even the chassis of the laptop. If i remember correctly the 1080 mxm card is bigger and you need to dissipate more heat.

 

Does anyone have issues with HDD freezing for some seconds while playing games? I wrote more about this here

 

Go to the Intel Rapid Storage application. Go to the Performance tab. Disable Link Power Management.

 

Did that once and other than having increased temperatures it didn't help, the issue comes back for some reason. I have noticed it less than before though so i'm not sure what triggers it..

EDIT:

I went into windows defrag and optimize application and noticed that the same day i received a that iAStore.sys warning it had just done an automatic optimization. I have it set to start monthly and it shouldn't do that unless it's in idle, could it be that?

https://support.microsoft.com/am-et...enter-hangs-after-choosing-disk-to-defragment

i know it's for an old version of windows but meh..

 

If you are using the balanced profile in Windows you will need to do the same in the windows power management settings (disabling power management on your drive)

 

Already done

 

Hi, i have been using by gt62 for a while now and i had a few queries for my fellow experienced users.

1. What are the safe highest temps for the gpu? (nvidia gtx 1070)
2. What are the safe highest temps for the cpu? (i7-7700)
3. should i leave the fan speed at auto or should i put it at advanced? (dragon centre)
4. I have modified my fan curve (from dragon centre) so the fan speed increase with increasing temps and at "red" temperature region the fans kick upto 94-98%. Is that good for the lifespan of fans?
5. Does the "turbo" mode in dragon centre really improves gaming performance? And is it good for the machine?

Please answer these queries as i don't want my fans (or any other component) to fail just because of my unnecessary overuse....
PS: my gaming sessions last from 5-10 hours at max and i only play at ultra settings (titanfall 2 ONLY) and high (rest of any/all games) settings

 

Hey guys,
I need help. I have an MSI GT62, (i7-6700,32 gb ram,GTX 1070) In the last few days without using any application or game my videocard is running on 57%... Iam afraid its a virus or something like that. Do you know any application that checks what using my hard drivers?
Thank you,
Regards,
Laszlo
Here is picture about the problem: https://imgur.com/a/DwU5I

 

Post pict of Task manager processes. You shouldn't have 12% Cpu load if you don't run any applications.

 

Examine the processes in task manager as what Papusan said. If there are processes that are hogging high CPU resources most likely it's also these hogging GPU resources, then try to figure what they are from there.

 

@lacko24 I forgot to tell that you can as well use Process Explorer to gather more info in your troubleshooting.

 

This applies to GT72VR specifically but I assume GT62VR's as well:

ARE THERE ANY GT72VR OWNERS IN THE USA, EITHER 6700HQ OR 7700HQ OWNERS, WHO CAN VERIFY THAT USA MODELS USED THE BATTERY WHILE GAMING ON AC POWER, at maximum CPU+GPU combined loads (MUST be pulling over 170W to the system)?

 

Also USA OWNERS please download RW EVERYTHING, go to EMBEDDED CONTROLLER and please post a SCREENSHOT of the EC RAM page with the EC registers clearly visible. Thank you
This is important. Trying to help out someone here....

 

No such problem with my GT62 (I have both: 7RE and 6RE).

 

I'll ask this again because I asked before and not a single person offered to help--even people WITH systems.

Can someone PLEASE, with a GT72VR, a *USA* or Canadian system, with a 7700HQ and a GTX 1070, OR a 6700 HQ and a GTX 1070, PLEASE download RW Everything (it's a very small program and will only take 30 seconds of your time), install it, go to the EC TAB (Embedded Controller) and please post a screenshot of your EC RAM registers? I'm trying to help someone and I cant do much if no one else will help.

Thank you.

Bonus points if both GT62VR And GT72VR dumps are posted.

 

Mayby nobody answers You becouse it's a GT 62 thread?

 

I said GT62VR *AND* GT72VR.
There is no dedicated GT72VR thread for GTX 1070 and 7700HQ's, since this refresh didn't change anything. Not sure if you've been paying attention or not. The chassis is the same so both systems were discussed together. Even notebookcheck's review mentioned that.

 

So You think that GT62 comes with i7-6700HQ and GT72 it's the same but with i7-7700HQ? That's wrong. GT62 it's a 15,6" notebook (either i7-6700HQ or i7-7700HQ) and You're asking about GT72 (17" model, either i7-6700HQ or i7-7700HQ) problems. There are many differences

The place You're looking for it's here:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/msi-gt72vr-all-models-official-discussion-thread.796588/

 

thank you

 

Which do you is is better?

1. MSI GT62VR 7RE (7700HQ, GTX 1070)
2. ASUS GL503VS SCAR Edition (7700HQ, GTX 1070)

does anyone knows their pros and cons with each other?
design, performance, cooling, portability, price, etc..

 

The GT62VR. The chassis is far superior and you shouldn't have thermal problems compared to that entry level Asus.
The gt62vr portability isn't the best out there but perfomance and cooling are perfect. Design is more a personal thing and price depends on your region, in my country it's overpriced and unaffordable with the gtx 1070.

 

Heya.
Anyone here is using Svets modded bios? Any luck with undervolt? Funny enough I managed to slightly overclock it.
Any who, setting undervolt to Core and Ring doesn't have any affect in booted system, even setting a 500undervolt doesn't crash the system.

It is possible to undervolt through throttlestop or XTU, I know that, but the thought of keeping my app list short and curiousity led me to get the bios.
Turned out to be waste of time and money, was fun tho.

 

Yeah, it's hard to tell people that, and it's not too expensive to send them to Svet to find out.

There are some things it can help with sometimes, but earlier when the vbios was unlockable it was more useful.

Prema's BIOS changes are special case, like having an enthusiast at the vendor pulling for performance over "safety"

 

I don't think Prema works on GT62vr, does it?

 

No, but he is the example that people think of when going to Svet on MSI / Asus (?) laptops, hoping to get a similar bounty of performance benefits.

Like I said, it used to be the case when BIOS + VBIOS were more tunable, but these days the unlock on MSI / Asus is meager / thin.

Still fun to play with, and experience the adrenaline risk of potentially bricking your laptop (video card) and voiding your warranty, requiring you to get down on your hands and knees to beg the vendor to fix your boo-boo.

 

The thrill was great and that was the first time I opened the laptop fully as I had never seen other side of this laptops motherboard.

Anyway, I haven't seen a Svet Bios review anywhere here, so, here's mine.

Pros:
Can enable Speedshift without need of Throttlestop. (If you prefer XTU to do underclock, it's a great option)
Slight overclock and more options in XTU.
There are enough options that work (like lowering cpu core count to 1, 2 or 3, need to check if disabling ME works)

Neutral:
̶S̶o̶m̶e̶ ̶u̶n̶d̶e̶r̶v̶o̶l̶t̶ ̶o̶p̶t̶i̶o̶n̶s̶ ̶w̶o̶r̶k̶ ̶l̶i̶k̶e̶ ̶G̶T̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶u̶n̶c̶o̶r̶e̶.̶ ̶(̶G̶t̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶u̶s̶ ̶d̶i̶s̶a̶b̶l̶e̶d̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶I̶ ̶n̶e̶v̶e̶r̶ ̶t̶r̶i̶e̶d̶ ̶m̶e̶m̶o̶r̶y̶ ̶O̶C̶)̶
A fun and thrilling project. (Actually had a chance to remove the subwoofer which emmited constant noise when not used. And break CMOS connector *cough*)

Cons:
̶P̶a̶i̶d̶ ̶1̶5̶e̶u̶r̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶m̶y̶ ̶o̶w̶n̶ ̶c̶h̶o̶i̶c̶e̶,̶ ̶i̶t̶'̶s̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶ ̶w̶o̶r̶t̶h̶ ̶i̶t̶.̶ ̶1̶0̶ ̶e̶u̶r̶ ̶w̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶a̶ ̶s̶t̶r̶e̶t̶c̶h̶ ̶u̶n̶l̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶a̶c̶t̶u̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ ̶h̶e̶l̶p̶s̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶.̶ (Nvm)
Possibility to brick your laptop, which can be reprogrammed using SPI programmer.

 

Huh, I though the standard donation was $50US.

 

50USD would be a total ripoff, maybe it's for Prema or Svet some years ago?

 

IDK, that's the number I used years ago... been a while. I think last / best I heard was $35, and I thought that was too low. Those guys don't get paid enough for their contribution, but as always pay what you can and what you feel it's worth.

 

Well, it really depends. If it wouldn't feel half baked it could be worth 50USD. It's possible that it's MSI's fault, even tho I doubt that because settings like undervolt, which work while booted up, doesn't work in his bios.
I know he's not responsible if the options in his bios works or not.

I believe I can tell about how much I paid as it was a donation and didn't agree to not disclose this info(payment).

Thet's why I wish to ask the people who owns this laptop and has the bios, does the stuff work in or not.

 

I thought you could set memory settings, for higher performance and fixing memory compatibility issues - if your memory specific settings aren't mapped in by default.

And, I though it opened up options to disable / enable CPU settings not otherwise visible.

And it allowed "negative" sign setting for undervolt.

And, it let you more easily set OC in BIOS...

Other stuff too... maybe there is more than you've thought of or discovered?

 

As I said I haven't checked the memory OC, but OC from 2133 to 2400Mhz was available on stock bios. Please don't twist my words.
In bios, yes, but they can be enabled/disabled in throttlestop.

Yes it does, but there's no point of a "-" prefix if you actually can't udervolt it. So that argument is worthless. No offense. Currently only way to undervolt Core and Ring is through XTU or Throttle. The same eith manual voltage.

OC is in limits of 0-56mhz. That was the max I got. I didn't expect it to OC anyway.

It's possible that I have missed a setting that could help me in future, and neither I am trying to insult Svet's work or him, I am expressing my opinion on what I see is working, what isn't and if it's worth it.

If I had to make an excel sheet on what's working and what isn't it would be a great info source to people with this laptop on what to expect.

 

Yeah, let's stop right there and stay friends. Your response went down hill from there.

I was listing from memory what benefits the Svet BIOS provided, I wasn't trying to correct you, or start an argument. Ok?

Good night