The Official MSI GT62VR Owners and Discussions Lounge

I really want to buy GT62VR 7RE, but the single thing that puts me off is the noise which is 35-36 DB while idle. It could be quite disturbing for me. Is there any way to reduce the fan noise/speed ? Anyone owns this model maybe ? I heard dragon center is not quite helpful reducing the noise

 

Who said it's not helpful? You can reduce fan speed and make your own fan profile with dragon center.

 

Hi all! After reading the original Barebones thread and this MSI one, I got myself the MSI GT62VR, with 7700HQ and a 1070, (256 ssd and 16GB RAM as well).

A long while ago, people were discussing the advantages of an LGA CPU and MXM GPU. While I am absolutely glad that components are not soldered on the MB (CPU is, in my case), I was wondering if there will actually be any upgrade path for either option (barebone or MSI).

The 6700k/7700k/7820hk/6700HQ/7700HQ/whatever high-end CPU you already have will not be compatible with the gen 8 Intel CPUs, so there's nothing more modern or better on that front.
The CPUs are fine as they are anyway, so there hardly will be any need to change one. So, GPU?

Well, that makes me wonder: if it took 2 years for nVidia to replace the 970 with a 1070, should we expect a similar change by, say, 2018? If so, assume the new GTX 1170 will cost 400$ or so, while being 10% more energy efficient and 20% more powerful. Will it be worth it? Or is this about the long game, say GTX 1270? That would be around 2020, and who knows what it will have. Still, do you actually think there's a chance that by 2020 we will be interested in only changing the GPU? ANd that it will be same MXM standard?

We are not even really sure if a 1080 will fit fine, even if it works fine with a 330W PSU! Or are we? And even if it does, is it worth it? Minimum 500$ in a few years...

I am absolutely in love with the new gaming beast, but I just don't really see the upgrade path, or any real use apart from easy service.

 

I do not think we will have an upgrade path. The advantage for the MXM for me is that I can replace the GPU if it breaks instead of the whole board. The PSU limit on the EC would not play well with a 1080 imo.

 

Do you guys have Intel SpeedShift option in the BIOS? HWInfo on mine shows a red color which means it's supported but disabled and i don't have any option to enable it on the bios.

 

Hello folks,

Couple months ago, I purchased a GT62VR with 6600HQ and GTX1070. I currently have 2 external monitors hooked up to it through HDMI and the Mini Display Port. I was wondering if it is possible to connect an additional 3rd monitor through the USB C port. If this is not possible would there be any options for me to connect a 3rd external monitor? Thank you for any help guys.

Best,

EDIT: 6700HQ

 

The MSI product page for the GT62 says:
https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GT62VR-6RE-Dominator-Pro.html

"Matrix Display supporting surround mode and 4K output up to 2 external monitors"

" MULTI-TASK WITH UP TO 3 MONITORS [inc. internal display]
Expand the vision for extreme gaming experience. MSI innovative Matrix Display supports up to 2 external displays simultaneously through 1x HDMI port* and 1x Mini DisplayPort 1.2. Multi-task is made possible even during competitive gameplays. Connect the laptop to HDTV display, Matrix Display supports 4K output with a resolution up to 3840 x 2160. MSI Matrix Display technology creates an ideal environment for extreme gaming experience and pleasant multimedia entertainment."
*GT Series/ GE Raider series : HDMI 4K@60Hz
*GE / GP / GL / GF / GV Series : HDMI 4K@30Hz
https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GT62VR-6RE-Dominator-Pro/Specification

 

Nott enabled in the bios. You can enable this with Throttlestop though if you really want it.

 

I was just curious to see if i would notice an improvement in reactivity

 

Really appreciate the reply. I guess my last option would be to get two 4K TVs / Monitors and in effect have 9 total 1080p screens. Thanks again.

 

Hi guys.Do you know whether some of this notebook BIOSes, fixes the known Skylake Hyperthread bug yet?

 

The latest MSI bios for the GT62VR has the microcode fix.

 

Oh good, because there is nothing on it in the embedded txt file...
Honestly i am not sure anyhow whether i see some added value when i have the HT enabled. I think that classiic user who don't need this... your thoughts ?

 

It is good, microcode updates also fix other stuff.

 

Have you noticed some improvement in something else except the HT bug fix?

Sent from mTalk

 

There was a thread about improvements of the BA microcode. People reported more consistent benchmark scores.

 

Hi all,

I've been getting weird crashes for my laptop.
1070GTX, i7-6700HQ 256GB SSD+1TB, 16GM RAM

Some games cause my laptop to hard-freeze without BSOD, without creating a dump file, without any reason.

Games Observed causing this crash:
PlayerUnknown Battlegrounds (happened every game until it was optimized. happens less now but still does
Battlefield1
GTA V
MassEffect Andromeda
Overwatch (rare)
Starcraft 2.

I tried tons of possible solutions such as:
Clean install to win10
Factory Reset
Windows updates
Reverting drivers
GPU/CPU temps (they are not high)
It even once crashed from my desktop while browsing (Wtf?)

Already done stress tests to GPU&CPU, everything was fine.

Event Viewer log error was the following:
Audit events have been dropped by the transport. 0

Most people suggest this is a hardware issue, something related to the power supply, however this is a laptop and I cant do much about this other that replacing the entire unit.
Anyone experienced the same error? Same behavior?

Thanks

 

Open up MSI Afterburner, press control F, click on the voltage point (white dot) on the curve at 0.950v, or 0.900v and press Control L
Then try a game and see if you crash or not. Report back please.

 

Hi,

Thanks for responding.
Im not sure I understood your possible solution.
What should I do with this curve? How should I limit the voltage? I cant control core voltage from MSI Afterburner, I think because its locked from the bios or something.

Your suggestion is to limit the voltage to the frequency?

 

So I just lowered the freq of core clock & mem clock by ~150, which resulted a lower curve in the screen from ctrl+L.
Just crashed again.
Temps were fine. Same error occurred.

I think it is an issue related to the power the GPU is getting.

Before crashing I was able to observe the GPU Voltage, Power Limit & Voltage Limit graphs in MSI Afterburner.

Voltage limit & Power limit we're moving between 0 to 1 the entire time. GPU Voltage was stable at around 1.050.

Another thing I noticed is that when I lower the resolution from 1920x1080 to something lower (while gaming), the probability of crashing is lower.

(This is not a solution though. I dont want to play on less than the highest settings)

 

Try to lock it at 1.013v and let us know if it crashes.

 

Edit: I figured how to.
Dont see any "voltage limit" anymore.
I will update soon

 

Hi Plee,

I cannot find how to send private messages. I really need your help regarding the faulty 2016 1070 gpus. I want to complain to MSI and if you could send me evidence of the reply you got to have it replaced it will help me a lot.

Kind regards,
Ruben

 

You need 5 messages for that option.

 

Trust me, they know it but they will deny it by saying they cannot reproduce it. There are people here that sent their laptops multiple times to make this happen. It will not be easy. If you tell them the gpu has issues and crashes when boost 2 kicks in at higher than 1.013v they will flash a vbios that disables boost 2.

 

Thanks for your reply Plee.

What you are saying is like buying a Ferrari and the company limiting the engine for it to not to fail.

Could you tell me what you accomplished? I do not see a limiting Vbios a plausible and legal option.

Kind regards,
Ruben

 

You have two options.

1) Contact MSI and call them ON THE PHONE. explain to them the EXACT problem. Tell them that you have a GTX 1070 that has the "Boost 2 crash bug" (most of these cards have a hardware flaw that causes improper voltage regulation at 1.013v+), and tell them that you want the card REPLACED with a 2017 revision version (the ones used in most Kaby Lake GT72 and GT73s) and you do NOT want the 8a vbios which removes boost 2 clocks.

*IF* you know how to repaste, reassemble and repad thse cards, tell them that you do NOT want to send the laptop in because shipping costs are prohibitive. Tell them that you would prefer to send the card to them directly for replacement, and tell them you have the technical ability as a desktop systems integrator to assemble and repad and repaste the card yourself if they ship you a replacement updated card. You will need to buy the 0.5mm thermal pads yourself and Grizzly Kryonaut and repaste the card in this case. Tell them this is to YOUR benefit AND MSI's benefit because this saves on shipping costs and time and the problem is the card, not the mainboard. If they do agree to this, mark a black dot on one of the chokes so you can identify that this is the original card so you can make sure MSI actually sends you a new card back.

With some argumentation and persuasion sorcery, you should get them to agree to your terms.

If this is an issue, just send the entire laptop back, but make SURE you explain everything as above and that you want the 2017 revision card with the fixed boost 2 clocks in hardware.

There have been at least 6 different revisions of the MSI 1070, and I suggest you mention this also. The more they realize that you know what you're talking about, the better.

or 2) Use the 8A Vbios, which you can get from this forum (I've uploaded it multiple times) or even the MSI forum. Or just search google.

 

Thank you for the answer! Been looking for a solution for a long time.
I still have my international warranty so I will try and ask the guys in my country (not MSI, but working with MSI) about the revision of 1070.
If it does not work I will talk to MSI on the phone.
I will update when I have news, might take some time.

Thanks again!

 

Hi Guys, I am new to this forum. Need a small suggestion from you. I recently bought GT62VR-239 model from ebay. Seller advertised it as new and unopened box.I bought the laptop for a price 270$ less than Amazon/newegg price, but when I got the laptop, I found plastic mesh around fan broken, battery cover was already torn, and weirdly Republic of gamers sticker advertising 120HZ , Gsync, near the screen. I feel something fishy. should I return the laptop or is it normal?. Thanks.

 

If it isn't pretty obvious that you should return it INSTANTLY for a full refund, I don't know what to say.

 

Thank you for the reply. Returning it.

 

That doesn't feel right at all, and you should return it for refund.

 

Yes, Physical damage though it was small, ROG sticker near screen really looked weird. Returning it. Thanks.

 

Hello guys,

I am new to this forum so forgive me if I did not adhere to the posting rules for some reason; I have tried to search for posts that would solve my problem but had not luck doing so.

I bought my MSI GT62VR 7RE (GTX1070, i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM) two months ago and since then it was performing brilliantly, I did not notice anything wrong with it. At that time I tested the GPU but not the CPU. Yesterday I was trying to optimize Arma 3 to run smoothly and I read that it is CPU intensive so I thought I would check out the performance of my CPU.
I installed Intel's XTU to monitor the temps and ran a stress test. I found out that my CPU is throttling at 88 degrees Celcius, given that the fans are working normally and the everything is remaining cool. It is not throttling too hard though to severely affect performance. Upon further inspection I noticed that my idle temps are always jumping around from 55-70C and after installing throttlestop, the indicated PROCHOT temperature was indeed 88C. I have a 5 year old MSI GT70 ONE and the PROCHOT on there is 100C also on another laptop with a 6700HQ its also 100C. I am not sure what the problem is, the unit is still stock, it is not overclocked or modified in anyway, the only thing I have done is installed Ubuntu in dual boot mode along with Windows 10 and disabled secure boot to do so. On ubuntu my idle temps are lower than on Windows and I don't see than many jumps in temps. I have attached my system information and some pictures for your reference. Any input of the topic would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Joe

 

More and more OEM*s create cancer firmware for their notebook models nowadays. Try uncheck BD PROCHOT in main Throttlestop window and see how it goes. Maybe unistall your Windoze 10 and make a new clean bloatware free Win 10 installation.

 

88C is awful for prochot. My rig is running max 70C in games. I have it undervolted (-150mv) and repasted it with kryonaut.

 

Thanks for the replies, I will try what you guys suggested in a couple of days when my order arrives. How much Kryonaut do you think I would need, its the first time I use it, would a 1 gram tube be enough for both CPU and GPU?

But normally what should the PROCHOT be on the 7700HQ on the rig? 100C? Can someone upload a screenshot of their Throttlestop.

 

1g is enough. Use the spread method. From Intel specs, prochot should be 100C. MSI firmware neuter it to 88C.

 

I see, thanks for the answers. So you mean its the same with all 7700HQs on GT62VR? Why would MSI even do that? 88 is pretty low, is there no way to bypass it?

 

Probably to reduce RMA from thermal shutdowns.

 

As I said... Depends on how hard the OEM*s cripple the firmware!! From +-86→100C

1 gram tube is enough. But you pay higher price for smallest packages with thermal paste (per quantity) vs. the bigger one.

Second time... Try uncheck BD PROCHOT in main Throttlestop window and see how it goes

 

Sorry I was not familiar with all the terminology. I will try to uncheck the BD PROCHOT and I will report back, repaste hopefully in the coming two days, or if MSI did not get back to me about the warranty, wait until I figure out how to outsmart them.
Thanks again!

 

Sorry I was not familiar with all the terminology. I will try to uncheck the BD PROCHOT and I will report back, repaste hopefully in the coming two days, or if MSI did not get back to me about the warranty, wait until I figure out how to outsmart them.
Thanks again!

 

Quick update, I repasted CPU and GPU with Grizzly Kryonaut and also replaced the stop heatpads with Arctic 1mm pads and I undervolted both CPU and cache by 100mV and now the temps are great and I do not see any throttling. Even when gaming the max temp on the CPU is 80C. So I guess that has worked, thanks a lot for you help. I still think its ******** for MSI to cripple the CPU at only 88C.
Cheers!

 

Does it reach that temp even with fans on max speed? You could try to make your fan profile on Dragon Center.

 

Save on cost!! Aka less use of RMA and repair cost. Tech support team cost $$$

 

No this temp is with "Auto" profile for fan speed. If I turn on cooler boost, temps are around 75 or so. And good fan settings curve you guys recommend because I am randomly increasing the values.

 

Mine doesn't go above 70 (without undervolt) and barely touches it as it's always under that temp on GTA V with these settings



What's your ambient temperature by the way?

 

I bought a GT62VR 7RE but I am not satisfied with its display due to various reasons.

For one, does this amount of bleeding look normal to you?



Is it RMA-able? I would appreciate quick responses as I want to take care of it the soonest.

Thanks a lot in advance!

 

Is that an IPS screen?
Looks normal if that's IPS.
if that's a TN panel, RMA that thing.