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I wasn't aware the GT62VR came with a 7820HK.
This is completely illogical and wrong in so many ways...

The "Locked" chipset using an unlocked CPU....

The model type doesn't line up at all....yet....
There is a "GT62VR" with a 7th gen CPU shown on the MSI main page, but there is no 7820HK version listed anywhere.
7820HQ I can understand, but the HK is an unlocked CPU and is usually on the CM236/CM238 chipset, rather than the locked HM175.
Yet it seems this model exists somehow:

https://www.kitguru.net/lifestyle/m...62vr-7re-dominator-pro-i7-7820hq-gtx-1070-4k/
And the title of that page says 7820HQ, which is a LOCKED CPU...yet they show it comes with a 7820HK....
I don't know what to say when people can't even get the CPU model listed correctly...

Wonder if it can be overclocked, if not in the Bios, at least with throttlestop / XTU....

 

There were people with this CPU. It can be overclocked.


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I mean, the chipset doesn't usually allow overclocking, because that's the HM175/HM165, or you can't exceed the power limits on that chipset.
the CM 236/238 is the one that is supposed to allow overclocking.

 

Around 10 degrees (max) at worst case, although it depends on the load. When CPU stressed to max, all cores are within 5 degrees difference, but when the load is distributed differently, it can be up to 10 degrees difference.

Tested also Witcher 3, GPU Around 88, CPU throttles down to 2,5 GHz for a minute or so, which is really bad.

 

If you run OOCT or prime95, they are 5C apart?


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The prochot is set to 88 by MSI which is retarded. Nothing we can do.


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Please download Intel XTU and set the ICCMax (Core Current Limit / Amps) to 100.
Does this do anythiing?

Prochot is supposed to be 99C on 7820HK, not 88C.

 

I am using XTU for undervolting. Not messed with the Processor Core ICCMAx, it is on default 75 Amps. Not Sure what is the Prochot you are talking about. And please note, that 88 is for GPU, cpu is hitting those values as well, that is true, and than it is underlocked to 2,5 GHz for a minute or so with temps around 75 degrees, then it goes back to 3,5 GHz and after a while falls back to 2,5 GHz. This strange behavior was noticed only when testing Witcher 3 so far.

 

Here you are, sir. http://imgur.com/a/9aliS

 

Thanks. Prochot is 88 on CPU like the 6700HQ. That is it is throttling the cpu. I repasted mine and never hits 80 in prime95 or occt with auto fans. I used gelid extreme. Grizzly Kryou... should be better from what I have heard.

 

Anybody knows the GPU heatsink screw size for the GT62VR 6RE?

 

I think it should be the same as on the RE7 and it is roughly the same size as the screws holding the back plate.

 

OK, so I have repasted mine with Grizzly Kryonaut. Do not do the spread application, it is pain in the ass. After repasting, I still have around 10 degrees of difference between the cores, core 0 and 2 being the hottest and thermal throttling on prime95 (core 1 and 3 around 81 degrees, cores 0 and 2 around 88). The good thing is, that it helped with Crysis 3 and Witcher 3 as the CPU does not throttle anymore.

Crysis 3:

• CPU: ~83
• GPU: ~80

Wither 3:

• CPU: ~80
• GPU: ~80

And i am doing a Small FFT torture test on prime95. Btw, 1g of Grizzly cost me 5€ and I have also bought a cooling pad for 10€ which decreased the temp by another 2-3 degrees in games.
Do you have any suggestion how to bring those hot core 0 and core 2 to a cooler temperatures? What could be the reason? Did i do a bad repasting or is the heatsink not uniform?

 

I did the spread method. When you screw in the cpu heatsink, make sure to screw it evenly, a few turns at a time so it sits evenly on the die. If you repaste, could you let me know if the laptop cover screws fit in the heatsink?

 

Not going to

Not going to repaste again, pretty satisfied with the results, I would say good enough, I have got rid of thermal throttling outside of prime95 but to be frank, I am not planning on playing prime95 .

And yes, the screw driver fits for both.

 

Sounds good man. I have been playing Forza Horizon 3 at full settings. This is the most demanding game I am playing in this laptop. CPU and GPU getting hammered and no thermal throttling with Auto Fan. Pretty good cooling for a 15 inch laptop.


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Dup.

 

Hey all, sorry if this has been covered somewhere in the past 247 pages of comments, but -

my GT62VR has started to make some strange noises a few days ago. I'd say it's coming from the right fan - it sounds kind of like the fan is grinding against something maybe? it's pretty faint honestly. I popped the rear lid, and all seems fairly normal with the fan - no debris, and the blades seem to spin just fine.

i wouldn't mind just replacing the fan myself if it's not too difficult. wondering if anyone has any experience or pointers with this (where to buy, how to replace it, etc). i'd rather not send it in for repairs right now because i really need the machine for work. i've built my own desktop computer, so i'm not completely intimidated with the idea of DIY here.

or if you think it's no big deal to just leave it. it seems like air is still flowing from the affected fan so maybe it's not a problem for now?

 

I have heard that MSI can send fans for warranty. Depends where you are located thougj.


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I would say try to call the support center (warranty) and ask them to send you a new one. They will probably do so as it is more convenient for them and for you as well, as you can change it and it is pretty easy to do so.

 

Yea changing the fan is very easy. No need to touch anything inside, just remove fan and replace. Plug and play.


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@encheels man, try kryonaut. I replaced my gc extreme with it and it blows it out of the water. It is much more viscous and basically fixed temp issues. GC extreme is too loose and the imperfections in the HS make it lose performance over time, increasing your temp gap between cores again. I put kryonaut today and it was hard to apply compared to gc extreme but it is magical lol. This also means IC Diamond would completely fix the temp delta issue. I got it too and will see how kryonaut holds.


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i made a call to MSI and they're sending a fan in the mail! pretty smooth customer service

i might be back to ask installation questions...hopefully it goes well. Thanks!

 

Will try.thanks.
What's the core temps delta now?

 

3-5 C. By the way, @hmscott is right about MSI paste being really good. I was listening to a korean computer blogger that handles laptop repairs and he mentioned that all the GT series from MSI have good paste and he does not recommend repasting unless you find issues. In fact, using gc extreme increased the temp deltas between cores compared to the MSI paste.

 

MSI paste looks like relabled Tuniq or MX2. It probably is.
The MSI standard paste is fine for locked HQ processors. It gets demolished by high end pastes on unlocked overclocked CPUs though.

 

The key thing to keep in mind is MSI has laptop CPU's @ 45w - not desktop CPU's at 95w, even with the 7820HK the paste is good enough with undervolting the CPU to keep it from thermal throttling - with the stock BIOS

Breaking the seal on the paste, and using enthusiast paste opens you up to a maintenance schedule of re-pasting as needed over the years that someone that doesn't touch the paste never needs to deal with.

You (and the next owner) should never need to change the MSI paste throughout the life of the laptop.

If the MSI laptop is thermal throttling out of the box, and has a thermal paste or more likely heatplate fitment issue, then let MSI fix it under warranty, or better yet ask your seller to pull another one from the stack of new laptops and more than likely it will be fine.

It's very seldom an actual bad cooling problem is found put of the box, but it can happen with any laptop make / model.

The joy of the MSI paste is you can leave it alone, undervolt, and enjoy gaming for years to come

 

Yeah I did replaced my laptop 4+ times and even went to Microcenter testing their machines. I grabbed the one that had 7-8C differential lol. I think most people not in this website will never notice the core differentials as long as the machine does not throttle.

 

Yeah, you stepped in a bad production batch, or the GT62 has a bad design spec on the thermal pads.

What I meant was *most* MSI laptops aren't plagued with bad temperatures, and you can undervolt to attain temperature goals instead of opening up yourself to many re-pastes over the life of the laptop.

Leave the paste in peace

 

I agree. And even with the 7-9C differential, this machine does not throttle. In theory I could have left it alone and just use it. Also let me add the 7-9C differential was ONLY happening with prime95 and OCCT Small Data Set. Every single game I played did not show this differential, even Forza Horizon 3 that destroyed gc extreme lol.

 

But yeah, I am impressed and very happy with Kryonaut. I have IC Diamond in my drawer too in case this fails.

 

And, don't forget about the K5pro, that'll outlast the stock paste

Removing the thermal pad(s?) and replacing it with K5pro in this case, for all GT62's? is a great idea.

 

Yup, I replaced the 0.5mm pads in the chokes next to the cpu with k5pro. Also replaced the mosfet 1mm pads with Artic 1mm pads because they are softer.


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Forgot to add, replaced the gpu mosfet 1mm pads with Artic 1mm as well. The CPU heatsink actually handles the Mosfets for the gpu.


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Off topic lol finally beat Doom 2016 lol


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I beat it on Wednesday. Great game.

 

Cheers! For non-throttling laptops!

 

Do you guys use True Color?

 

Yeah

 

Long story, but I'm trying to replace the keyboard in this unit. Have it all taken apart, new board in front of me, but it looks like the old keyboard is held in place by several (40+) small black plastic tabs that are rounded over on the end so they won't go back through the hole. Any way to get around these without breaking them?

 

I believe you're supposed to flex the keyboard from the inside so that you can force one of the side edges outside of the holes, which then give you a lot more space to force the long front or back sides out of the hole. These videos are unlisted, but try looking for "17A1 disassembly" videos or GT72VR or GT62VR disassembly videos, which should show how to remove the keyboard.

Tl;Dr: the keyboard can only be removed by DISASSEMBLING THE LAPTOP.

*Edit* you can't even search for unlisted videos on youtube.
Here's a direct link to the Gt73VR 6RE (17A1) disassembly video.
There is also a GT72VR or GT62VR disassmebly video that is made just like this.



This is for the older GT72 but maybe this helps a little too?

 

I appreciate the quick response and the attempt but unfortunately those don't really help. On that second video, around the 7:40 mark where they're removing the keyboard bracket, they have 16 screws to take out. Mine doesn't have any screws at all, it's JUST exclusively these little black plastic spikes that are put through the holes in the keyboard, then it looks like melted and rounded over. I've tried to take a few of them out by putting a screw driver under the metal bracket and gently twisting but it still snaps them off rather than the head sliding through.
The only way I can see to get this apart is either snap off every single one of those heads, which makes me feel like the keyboard bracket wouldn't be held in by very much at all, or i would need to find a way to disconnect the plastic inner section from the actual aluminum shell that it's, I assume glued like crazy to.

 

Yes I'm aware of that. As I said there was a GT72VR or GT62VR disassembly video also but I don't know how to find it.
Try looking in one of these folders for that mainboard model in the systeme folder.

http://msi-ftp.de:8080/main.html

 

I'm sorry, you lost me. I went there and *thought* i found my MB model, downloaded the thing and it was just a bunch of executables. What'd I mess up?

 

The video is a WMV file. Go to the GT62VR disassembly. I can't link the folder. Just go there yourself. There's even a reassembly video in there too. The main folder is SYSTEME.

 

Found the one you were talking about, not sure how I didn't see it before. Unfortunately the video ends at exactly the step I'm currently at. It doesn't actually show me how to access the keyboard itself.

 

Sorry, I tried

At least you can use the reassembly video to speed things up though. Hope someone else can help with the keyboard.

 

Yep appreciate the attempt. It looks like my only real option is to snap off the plastic pieces and duct tape the thing back down after I swap em out haha

 

Hey guys. I was considering to get this dominator listed here on amazon. Any opinions about this one? Is there a better one I could be getting for around the same price?

 

Has anyone tested the ICC profile from notebookcheck review for this laptop? Is it safe to test?

https://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-GT62VR-6RE-Dominator-Pro-Notebook-Review.171215.0.html