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    The Official MSI GT62VR Owners and Discussions Lounge

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Talon, Jul 14, 2016.

  1. macmyc

    macmyc Notebook Evangelist

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    Feel bad for ya, i consider myself lucky

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  2. plee82

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    Thinking about getting Gelid and fixing it myself.


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  3. plee82

    plee82 Notebook Evangelist

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    If you run OCCT with large data set for more than 20 minutes, do you notice your right palm gets warm? Wondering if it is the RAM heating up on that side.
     
  4. macmyc

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    I haven't ran a long OCCT test on my machine but as i tend to play games often i can tell you that, even tho i'm not sure if we're speaking about the same area of the chassis, it does get a bit warm but it's nothing serious, i can feel it more warm during summer because of obvious reasons. As far i know that area has also one of the drives, i need to double check!

    This is the zone i'm speaking about

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  5. plee82

    plee82 Notebook Evangelist

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    Yes! That is the warm part of the laptop.
     
  6. macmyc

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    Aha, here is what we got in that space

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  7. plee82

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    Looks like it is the cpu?
     
  8. macmyc

    macmyc Notebook Evangelist

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    No man, it's upside down, look at the top of the photo :p

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    If that was the CPU, the laptop would shut off in 1 second.
    That's the chipset or PCH.
     
  10. macmyc

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    Hmm i really have no idea but i know that the area gets warmer when the drives have a constant flow of work such as downloading games or even playing them. It's not a real hot area but it's kinda useful during winter =)
     
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    Did you get what you need to repaste from Microcenter? How did you leave things with them?
     
  12. plee82

    plee82 Notebook Evangelist

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    They won't open it. But I found one laptop that has a 5-7 differential. I will try to improve that myself.


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  13. plee82

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    Imo it could be the RAM too.
     
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  14. encheels

    encheels Notebook Consultant

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    Try to unplug your HDD.still hot in there?
    BtW as i promised: https://1drv.ms/f/s!AiOUCEPlhamyhu4UXR5ZmESJUfutvA

    I wrote it i gave it up.Gelid won,t solve this offset issue.i will repaste in the future and will apply copper shim with gelid.then it will be OK.
    But anyhow it is weird. Standard gaming load heats the cores equally just stress tests make these 10c offsets on cores...
     
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  15. plee82

    plee82 Notebook Evangelist

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    Do you have to remove the fans when removing the heatpipe?
     
  16. encheels

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    Yes.both fans and cpu gpu heatpipe module is in one piece.
     
  17. plee82

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    I will probably do this once my games throttle. Have you tried Grizzly Kryonaut thermal paste?
     
  18. encheels

    encheels Notebook Consultant

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    That's my another candidate.

    Sent from mTalk
     
  19. plee82

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    Anybody know what kind of thermal pads are used in the GT62? Just in case I damage them when I pull the heatsink XD.
     
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    Are there any programs besides Dragon center or Steelseries where I can control the LED keyboard colors?

    I am personally not a big fan of either but I do like to have the bling factor of color changing keysboard.
     
  21. encheels

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    Credit to @Mobius 1
    The thermal pad you need (optionally for repad) Fujipoly (also sold as modright) 14w/mk X-E 0.5mm thickness (100x15 size, x1) and 1.0mm thickness (100x15 size, x2). Do not buy the 17w/mk since it's extremely dense.
     
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  22. plee82

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    Cannot find any 14w/mk, only 11 or 17.
     
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    Alphacool Thermal Pads(The Europe branding name).
     
  24. plee82

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    Cool. It looks like even the 11w are superior than what MSI puts in there.


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  25. Mobius 1

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    That's for alienware


    For msi you neee different quantities
     
  26. nattapol attatippaholkun

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    6700hq is a limitation for my 1080p gaming at 144 fps

    Can I upgrade GT62vr by myself ?? for instance to 6600k
     
  27. plee82

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    Nope, the cpu is soldered.
     
  28. ethanle

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    Guys, I need help. I purchased GT62VR 7RE in April from xoticpc. Today fans stopped working totally. In dragon center, it show 0 rpm for both cpu fan and gpu fan. I tried update EC, reinstall dragon center, clear CMOS. none of these work. What else can I try?
     
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    I searched the problem online and found several posts with same issue. Can this be considered deficit? . trying to contact msi and get RMA. I am really disappointed about a $1699 laptop get into such issue.
     
  30. plee82

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    Uh.. how do you recover the recovery partition used by msi? Does MSI provide an ISO to fully recover your laptop to factory partitions?


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  31. Falkentyne

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    Doesn't the cooler boost button work?

    Unplug the laptop, flip it over, press the pin hole for 30 seconds and fans will work again.
     
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  32. encheels

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    You are supposed to create recovery USB or DVDs on your own when you recieve the notebook.then make image of such usb on your desktop to stay safe and you can play with partitions.
    Our use acronis to make hdd images.. though it seems to be too late for you yet.
     
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  33. plee82

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    Ugh I guess I will never go back with the stock partitions lol.
     
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    Yes, and it's called MSI BurnRecovery, you supply a 32GB USB 3.0 flash drive, I'd get a fast one, and it turns it into a bootable recovery restore drive that will reformat all of your internal storage and restore the OS and recovery partition.

    That popup when you first turned on your laptop to remind you to use MSI BurnRecovery to create a bootable recovery flash drive was there for a reason :)
     
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  35. plee82

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    Just opened the laptop to check inside. Getting the gelid tomorrow. Is it just me though or I do not need to unscrew every screw in this laptop to remove the cover?
     
  36. Frib

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    Hi all,
    Got my MSI GT62VR 7RE Dominator Pro in May 2017.
    2 weeks ago one fan stopped working.
    Yesterday second fan stopped working.
    After realizing that temperatures are very high, I installed MSI Dragon center and MSI Afterburn. All fans (GPU and CPU) are stopped at 0 rpm. WTF?!

    I tried everything:
    1- pressed the pin in the back on the laptop (I don't even know what is it for) for 30sec.
    2- installed latest versions of BIOS (E16L2IMS.308) and EC (16L2EMS1.107)
    3- Clean install of Windows 10 Pro 64
    4- Reinstall Dragon Center. Tried to select and edit all the profiles. I press the Cool Boost buton and nothing happens, except for the button's led that turn on.

    Still fans don't work. Which means I have to write this message and turn the laptop off now as it starts to burn my hands.

    Please let me know if you somehow found a way to fix this. I really want to avoid send it to warranty and wait 1 month to have it back, I really need it for work at the moment!

    Damn MSI !
    "Cooling in MSI is awesome", they told me.

    Thank in advance,
    Best regards.
     
  37. plee82

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    Contact MSI, I know they send fan replacements under warranty. Replacing them is very easy.
     
  38. Frib

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    Thank you for your answer...but...
    Both CPU fans? What about the GPU fan?
    And I cannot open my laptop, otherwise I will lose the store warranty, right?
     
  39. plee82

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    The sticker does not void warranty in the US. In fact, that sticker is illegal in the US lol.
     
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2017
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    @encheels hey man I am working on reducing the core temp diff. I noticed the thermal pads at the right of the CPU are causing an imbalance in the HS. I got a plan that might fix this issue. Let me know if you are still working on this.


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  41. encheels

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    Not actively, i will sort this diff on the next repaste exercise :).
    But that is definitely possible that is caused by the pads..maybe they are too high or i don't know.i planned and bought the small copper shims and i want to apply them between IHS and Heat sink.
    How did you find that therm pad is the culprit?
     
  42. plee82

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    If you look at the bottom of the Heat sink when it's unscrewed, it is level horizontal 180 degrees. Once you start tighting the heat sink, you will notice the heat sink starts to angle a few degrees instead of going flat on the die. Looks like the pads on the two chokes on the right side of the CPU are causing an imbalance. My plan is to remove the pads on the two chokes and replace them with a layer of k5 pro. There is also a 1mm pad next to the choke that I will replace with 0.5mm pads.
     
  43. plee82

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    Replaced the 1 mm pad next to the CPU chokes with 0.5 mm artic. Also replaced the existing 0.5 mm with artic's 0.5 mm since the artic pads are much softer than the OEM. Used Gelid Extreme and these are my results.

    This is running OCCT and Heaven with Turbo fan at the same time for 15 minutes.

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    This is running OCCT Auto fan for 20 minutes.
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  44. plee82

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    Forgot to say, I did get the K5 pro. I did not use it to test the Artic super soft 0.5 mm instead. I am not sure I have the strength to open the laptop again and use K5 pro lol.
     
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    Ok for science... replaced the choke 0.5mm pads with K5 Pro. Will post results.


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  46. plee82

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    OCCT + Heaven Turbo Fan

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    OCCT Auto Fan

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    I've always wondered, what are the symptoms of the cpu vrm overheating? Just curious since a lot of people keep mentioning high quality pads for them.


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    I tried to explain this to yoo before... Throttling!!
    See also X299 VRM Disaster explained by Der8auer You're welcome :vbthumbsup:
     
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    Hello guys, so recently I have bought MSI GT62VR 7RE, comes with i7-7820hk and GTX 1070.

    I have uninstalled Norton, Killer software, update all drivers and the remaining bloatware.

    Few notes:
    1. Doing RAM/HDD upgrade does not void warranty even though you have to damage the warranty sticker (talked with guy on support)
    2. The guy on support said that even repasting the CPU/GPU does not void warranty. (I am in middle Europe region)
    3. MSI True Color shortcut works differently as in manuals, instead of fn+A, fn+Z you have shortcuts for the exact mode directly, e.g.: fn+G for gaming, fn+A = antiBlue, fn+S = sRGB, fn+M=movie ....
    4. I have undervolted the CPU, -130mV is stable (half hour prime95, 2 hour Crysis 3, 4 hours Doom), avarage voltage around 1V at 3.5GHz.The high frequencies seems to be stable up to -170mV, the issue is with the idle frequencies, when switching to ECO mode freq drops to 1,4 GHz and the voltage below 0,6V which causes freeze.
    5. The thermal performance on AUTO fan mode and SPORT shift mode is not ideal, i suggest using Crysis 3 on max settings(TXAA 2XT, G-SYNC on, Rivatuner fps cap at 58 fps to keep within G-Sync Range) to test it. This game puts a high stress on the system, after cca 15 minutes:
      1. GPU: Temp: ~85, Freq: ~1560MHz
      2. CPU: Temp: >85, Freq: throttled to ~3000 MHz. (max around 91 in hwinfo)
    6. While playing Doom with fps cap 58 + G-Sync:
      1. GPU: Temp: ~75, Freq: ~1700MHz
      2. CPU: Temp: <80, Freq: 3,500 MHz

    As you can see above I am experiencing some thermal throttling issue under heavy gaming load. Seems they did not do a good job while applying thermal paste at the factory.

    I am going to reapply the thermal paste on CPU and GPU with "Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut" tomorrow. I am expecting a drop of more than 5 degrees which could help me with the thermal throttling. Will let you know the results.

    Btw, any suggestions or detailed guide how to disassemble and reapply the thermal paste?
     
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    What are your core temp differentials?
     
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