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I tend to agree. It's easy to get carried away with the "moar power" mentality.

I doubt the Tornado will be any better than the P750DM2.

 

At this point even clevo let me down. I don't know if pascal ended up being hotter than expected or if those greedy bastards cut some corners in the quality of their DTR.

Anyway every time I think about it the gt62vr is the most easy / carefree option. It does not have any Bios or complex problems just a clean OS install, check some drivers and maybe undervolt the cpu or repaste some things.

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I'd also say at this point, if you can wait until the 23rd, just get a 1070 barebones MSI 16L1 and get the added bonus of a desktop CPU for less money than a regular 6700HQ + 1070. I'm seeing no real advantages to get a MSI GT62VR vs 16L1 except for getting 2 year warranty vs 1 year warranty on the 16L1.

 

Of course I'll wait it out. However, the real benefit I have for getting an msi is the global warranty. I don't have any official retailer / reseller for any brand except for MSI.

The wonders of living in a third world country

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Double Post, XoticPC Video Review is out!!

 

I was literally about to cancel my Amazon order of the GT62VR right when I got the "Shipped!" e-mail.. Sigh. I got the CyberpowerPC model down to $1862 shipped with 6700K + 1070! Ugh. Cheaper for a faster machine is hilarious.. If I can somehow return this Amazon after I do my own full review i'll probably get one from CyberpowerPC.

Interesting theirs is pulling 50+ db (but they measure literally at the fan which is kind of a weird way to test). At these levels, you'd have a vacuum cleaner in the room.

Too bad it's a 1060 review.. :/ Need more 1070 reviews in this MSI frame!

 

Contact the customer support, they can intercept the shipping.

As for the "Moar Power" thing, bear in mind that the notebook might not be able to cool down a desktop cpu. Temps for the 6700hq with the 1060 are 70c and around 80c for the 1070 model drop a 6700k and that thing will be an oven.

Clevo was the real thing when it came to desktop replacements, but this time it seems they ****ed up

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I'm hoping you're right because I don't want an oven if the desktop CPU is too much for it. I'd rather just be happy with the 6700HQ but I also prefer the all black no logo look of the desktop versions.. I've decided to just accept the Amazon order and give it my due diligence and full review.. As of right now I only have the GS63VR and my Asus (below in signature) to compare the GT62VR. I'll let you guys know on Wednesday what I think.

 

Looking forward to those benchs!!

Also, look at the review of xotic they are running on gsync and get the cpu up to 70c. The 6700k has a tdp of 91w that's the exact double of the tdp the 6700hq has... I'm not exactly sure how is the msi barebone going to cool down that thing...

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You're right.. Just looking at reviews on Notebookcheck with other laptops with full 6700K's and they are hitting 90+C and throttling in bigger 17" Sagers.. So that wouldn't make sense in the MSI if it's already getting pretty toasty with the 45watter.

But what I do like about the MSI Barebones is the all black look, no logos, still RGB keyboard, and the TWO m2 slots for raid purposes, and possibly tb3.0 + hdmi2.0.. Sort of closes the gaps on the shortcomings of the GT62VR.

Even worse, Notebookcheck's review of the 6700HQ + 1070 GT62VR said:

"The components had more problems with our stress test. After one hour maximum load, the GeForce GTX 1070 leveled off at 84 °C. However, the GPU did throttle (~1240 MHz) in extreme scenarios. Intel's Core i7-6700HQ did not throttle, but got quite a bit hotter at around 90 °C."

CPU still hitting 90c with a 6700hq.. That doesn't sound good.

Also, think about the socketed barebones for a second.. If the cooling fans and heatsinks are roughly the same (just changed to accomodate the socketed cpu)..

The BGA version 6700HQ is a DELIDDED cpu which allows for far better cooling. The socketed MSI barebones has to cool a lidded (heat spreader) 6700K..

How in the world would that thing not just overheat in like a split second under load?!?! You'd have to delid it to make it useful imo.. Unless there's some kind of sorcery MSI is using..

The fact nobody has a single review of the MSI Barebones (even back from the 980m version with 6700K) is very strange... The only "review" was someone who said they were getting 55c temps on gpu and cpu with 6700k while gaming.. but no comments on furmark/prime95 or any more hardcore tests.

 

Where are you seeing Sager's with the 1070 and 6700k hitting those temps? I've been following almost all the Sager threads daily and have yet to see one without the 1080 in it which is an entirely different beast all together. As you might have read, undervolting by about -130 keeps the temps cool which would probably be the case for the F5. I see Sager makes a 15.6" with a 1070 as well, very tempted to pull the trigger but holding out to see if we get new 120hz screen options soon.

 

Which 1070 gt62 model shipped for you? The $1999 or $1799 version? I've been waiting on that $1799 version to release but nobody has them in stock. They were supposed to release on the 5th of Sep but it got delayed or something.

In addition that barebones Eurocomm model is listed as a 4k screen just like the previous gen was but yet has a 1080p screen for the gsync screen. I know because I have that exact LCD sitting next to me as a spare from a previous laptop.

http://www.eurocom.com/ec/configure(2,384,0)ec --read the specs more closely. Its not a 1080p screen?

 

I ordered the $1999 version and it will be here on Wednesday. I also got tired of waiting on the 1799 version.

Eurocom fixed the specs it seems, showing FHD 1080p now, before it said UHD 1920x1080 or something weird.

I can't seem to find the review anymore but it was on Notebookcheck.. It was a Sager review of the 980m + 6700K desktop cpu and they were hitting 90c pretty quickly with Prime95 (AVX enabled).

 

Just a heads up to anyone who thinks scrolling isn't included on this touch pad yes it works fine. For some reason MSI didn't enable it by default, but it only took me 30 seconds to enable it in the synaptics control properties. How professional reviewers aren't able to figure this out and report it as not having scrolling amazes me.

Honestly the touchpad on this laptop is by far the best I have ever used on an MSI laptop. Usually for me they are slow and inaccurate. This surface feels much smoother and the movements are accurate. The scrolling gesture is also very accurate, easy to activate and smooth.

 

@Talon can you do a Prime95 (latest version small FPU test) to see what your 6700HQ temps get to? Let it run a while.. Pretty please?

 

Sure I'll run it for 5 minutes at stock fan profile aka silent fan profile lol.

Ok I ran a 10 minute test at stock fan profile while web browsing and listening to spotify.

CPU Temps hovered around 69-71C with max temps reported as:

CPU0 - 77c
CPU1 - 74c
CPU2 - 76c
CPU3 - 74c

I will now rerun the test after a 5 minute cool down period with max fans/cooler boost enabled.

Ran a 10 minute torture test with cooler boost fan profile activated while web browsing and listening to spotify.

CPU temps hovered around 60C with max temps reported as:

CPU0 - 65
CPU1 - 61
CPU2 - 63
CPU3 - 61

Hope this helps. I would imagine the cooling system is slightly different, and this is also on factory MSI paste. I would assume that with a decent thermal paste applied correctly you could possibly shave off a couple more degrees. In addition undervolting the CPU would also help shave off additional heat.

For what its worth I think prime95 and furmark are both unrealistic stress testing programs. I usually avoid them as I haven't seen my CPU ever get this warm even while ripping videos or playing the most stressing games.

 

Those temperatures are UNREAL for Prime95 (which uses AVX).. Very very low.. Unless something odd is happening with your system and it's power limit throttling.. Did you happen to check your clock speeds? Did they maintain 3.1ghz on all 4 cores entire time? If so, that's great news.

My GS63VR was hitting 90-91C with the Prime95 small FPU torture test and throttled down to 2.6ghz base blocks (6700HQ).

My Asus (in sig) hits mid 80s to high 80s under the same test (but no CPU throttling at least).

Thanks a lot man, that makes me happy, sounds like an incredibly cold running machine.

 

The system maintained 100% CPU load the entire test at 3.1ghz across all 4 cores without a single hitch.

It should also be noted that I forgot my GPU is set to max performance in nvidia control panel and as such that causes it to never throttle down gpu clocks and idle at a higher temp. This should have also caused the overall system to be warmer than if I had selected adaptive profile or default optimal power.

 

Well that sounds amazing then.. I don't think i've ever had a single machine in my entire enthusiast career have temps like that under Prime95 that wasn't liquid cooled..

So maybe the MSI 16L1 can actually handle a 6700K based on these results, the cooling system is definitely over engineered for the 6700HQ.

 

Awesome results indeed, Talon. How is the keyboard on this unit?

 

One can still get the regular 6700 Tornado F5 which only goes up to 65W and not bother as much about it overheating. It's only 20W more of TDP headroom whereas the 6700k can stretch to 90W.
This or the Sky X4E2. That Clevo P750DM2-G looks tempting too

 

I can't find the old Tornado but I know there's a guy on Ebay with a 970m/980m ones for about $1100 shipped for the 980m which is a great deal but it's not of much use if you're trying to get Pascal

 

I think I'm going to grab one.

It's a little thicker than I'd hoped. But it seems to be the only quiet 15.6" 1070 model on the market.

 

Loved the video, but they left out the power on "smoke-test"

Need to see / hear it running, and get some benchmarks with performance and temperature numbers for comparisons.

If any of you get them, side by side gaming performance comparison would be awesome!

 

I'm going to buy one even though I get a GT62VR on Wednesday just because I gotta know if it's what dreams are made of. I don't need 4 thousand dollars worth of laptops but I'll choose one and part with the other if I can't return one of them lol.

 

Just purchased the GT62VR (1070).

Don't really need the 1070 on a 60hz panel, but I just couldn't help myself.


Going to plasti-dip the glowing 'dragon' badge.

Hopefully have it by Friday.

 

Agreed, 1070 is a bit much for the internal panel but I think it's a good idea if you plan on using the GT62VR connected to a monitor, kb, and mouse.. Debating on just parting out my desktop and using the GT62VR as my primary machine for everything.. depending on how quiet and dependable it is. Hence why i'd probably rather have the MSI 16L1 with desktop CPU if i'm going back down to 1 machine.

 

Keyboard is the great steelseries keyboard. It has a slight issue for me in that it doesn't always register the space key stroke when the key is hit in the far right bottom corner. It doesn't seem to be an issue for all people because not everyone hits their space bar in that location.

I'm debating that same exact thing man. Additionally the 16L1 is confirmed to have Thunderbolt 3. I spoke with Eurocom today and at this point I am considering placing an order with the 6700k 1070 combo. Very difficult decision. I love my desktop and I think I would miss it honestly. I know that in the long run having this desktop is far more economical but why do I need 2 desktops?

 

Exactly, and I actually don't even use my desktop as much as I hoped for :/ I usually have my laptop in the living room on the coffee table where I do 90% of my gaming and normal PC usage. I'd rather just bring the "desktop" experience to the laptop instead of having two "desktops".

My only concern is if I can connect all 3 of my 1440p monitors to the laptop or if I have to ditch them.

 

Don't see why you couldn't connect all three monitors.

The GT62 I have no can do 65hz overclocked. I was hoping for 75hz, maybe MSI will release a gysnc screen 15.6" form factor that is faster in the future.

 

The 16L1 might be interesting. The specs should last for quite some time. And in the future it can be upgraded to a 4k samsung g-sync certified. Those sharp igzo still haven't recieved certification

 

Actually the 15.6" screen to replace to would be the Alienware 15.6" 120hz IPS.. I bet it will be a direct fit since most modern laptops pretty much all share the same eDP connector now. G-Sync certification is in the bios/system board so just swap the screen

 

I think its time you guys made an official thread for the GT62VR. That, or just rename this thread?

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I will make one soon unless we can get this one renamed but it's time for an official GT62VR/16L1 thread!

 

Oh didn't know that such a model existed
Do you happen to know the specific model no. to look up? Would be great if you do!

 

I've aleady asked a mod to rename this thread.

Anyone have a name suggestion and I will send another message to another mod.

Diversion I am expecting a lengthy review/initial thoughts on the GT62 w/ GTX 1070 tomorrow after you get the system. I need to see temps and performance. Although I think my interest now lays with the barebones with 6700k. If I can get the system to stay under 80C on both CPU (at 4.0ghz) and GPU I would be happy.

At the same time the 6700hq has been a great CPU for me and do I really need a hot box desktop chip in my laptop?

 

Wait, I'm sure I'm late to this, but is the 16L1 listed anywhere with a Pascal chip? The Xotic listing only has a 980m. This would be a sweet machine with a desktop cpu and a 1070.

 

Probably something like: "Official MSI GT62VR/161L Owner's Thread"

I will be doing a COMPLETE and FULL review.. Including weights, digital caliper readouts, temperatures, various load tests, throttling tests, extreme tests, fan thoughts (unfortunately do not have a dB meter but am ordering one soon). I at least can compare my thoughts to the recently returned GS63VR as well. Etc. etc.. Be prepared for information overload tomorrow everyone!

As for a full desktop i7.. If you primarily use your laptop as your single device.. and you just want the best and the ability to overclock.. And just want to know you literally have a 5.5 lb full blown desktop in your backpack.. Then yes. Lol. I'm a huge tweaker so if I can open up the CPU and go nuts with it and have fun, it seems like it would be a blast for me.

www.cyberpowerpc.com has the Fangbook 4 which is the MSI 16L1 with Pascal gpus.
www.eurocom.com has the Tornado F5 which is the same as above.

I prefer the CyberpowerPC "Fangbook" version as it's completely debadged with NO LOGOS. Both the above laptops have the RGB steelseries as well. The Eurocom one can be configured way more barebones and will be much cheaper if you're providing your own drives.

 

I don't why Eurocom has like mostly Maxwell stuff. Where's the new Clevos etc?

Thanks though!

 

Just as a head's up, during the Maxwell 980 rollout FB4 models had weirdly configured a small PSU with a custom connector so you couldn't use a higher wattage PSU as would be required for full performance. They had like a 180w, when you needed a 330w.

If this is the one you are talking about, I checked and it does use a 230w PSU, but I don't know if it's still a custom connector - you might want to use a 330w at some point for fun, so you might ask them when ordering what's what.

FANGBOOK 4 XTREME VR 200 GAMING LAPTOP
https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Fangbook_4_XTREME_VR_200_Gaming_Laptop

 

Well, Eurocom offers the 330watt as an option but Cyberpowerpc doesn't seem to.. But i'm just hoping the connector is standard and you can just switch between 230 and 330 any time you want.

 

Deleted my post? Who's ruling like Stalin around here? Not a good way to get me to want to post anything about my GT62VR i'm receiving today.

Edit: Apparently expressing your enthusiasm about the thread going "Official" is against the rules.

 

Extremely impressed with my GT62VR (GTX 1070, i7-6700HQ) so far.

Couple of random notes:

- It's incredibly quiet considering the GTX 1070. Even quieter than my Dell 7559 (960m) whilst gaming. Haven't even bothered to undervolt the CPU yet like I usually would.

- I ran Unigine Heaven 4.0 on Extreme Preset and managed 111 fps. Happy with that, as Notebookcheck only managed 104 fps.

- GPU seems to sit around 79 - 80 degrees whilst gaming.

- The very, very slightly rounded front lip is much nicer on my wrists than the sharp 7559's edge. Sounds like a small thing, but it's annoyed me enough on my Dell, that it put a fair bit of doubt in my mind when I saw the new Alienwares.

- I find the keyboard backlighting a little goofy (I prefer plain white, but you get a bunch of colours leaking through on some of the keys when you select white)

- The right wrist area gets a bit hot during everyday use / typing. Left side is cool - so no problem while gaming.

- My biggest concern, originally, was that the display looked a bit off (way too saturated on stock True Color settings). However, after deleting MSI's 'True Color' and installing the ICC profile from NBC, I am much happier.


So yeah, for a quiet, sturdy gaming machine... I have to say this thing comes highly recommended.

 

Could you bench some cpu intensive games like the witcher 3 and path of exile and let me know your thoughts?

Really good review btw. The silent beast low-profile notebook is really tempting me haha

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Installing The Witcher 3 now. Will bench them tomorrow.

 

Looking forward to it!

I've seen u around the p775dm3 thread, I think u made the right choice though.

The p775dm3 has a lot of troubles and quality issues out of the box

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All these reports of super quiet GT62VRs really makes me happy.. Still no delivery yet over here :/ HURRY UP UPS!

 

Lol I can just imagine you right now. When I've got a new toy coming in the I basically camp out at the front door haha.

I think you're going to be very happy with the GT62. It's a silent beast.

 

Unfortunately UPS delivers to my area seemingly last around 5pm EST or so.. Got a couple hours to go :/ I sold my Asus G751 (in signature) 2 hours ago! I miss it already it was an amazingly fast quiet machine. Hope the GT62VR makes me forget all about it.

 

I would ask them specifically, the last time they answered as I said, custom power connector and 180w only.

 

Will do, appreciate the heads up...