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aaaaand I just made the purchase from Microcenter. I couldn't say no to the price of $1400. My choices came down to either GT62VR, GS63VR (only if the fan problem has been fixed), and the Alienware 15R3. So far, I like the pure performance aspect of the laptop, but I do not like how thick it is. I'm switching from my ASUS UX501 to this thing, and the thickness and weight is just soo drastically different. I also do not like how ****ty the webcam is. I tested the 15R3 at microcenter, and, although it was pretty thin, it was a lot heavier than the GT62VR. My return policy runs until Jan, so I'll have a long time to decide whether or not I'll keep this beast.

 

I think you might be surprised by this machine. I thought it was going to be really bulky after looking at pictures, but when it arrived, I found it to be much more reasonable in thickness than I'd anticipated. So far I'm very happy with it... just wish I could have gotten it with the 6820HK CPU.

 

Oh and just to throw in some numbers for others to compare, my CPU cores are generally within 5 degreses of each other or less. I currently have an undervolt of -160mv/-160mv running stable. This keeps CPU temps in the 50s-60s almost all the time with fans on max. Once in a while I'll see it get into the mid/high 60s in a game like BF1 or something like that.

Very impressed with the thermals in this machine with stock pastes. If I run without the undervolt, I'll get power throttling in Prime95. If I run the undervolt with fans on auto (I've uninstalled Dragon Center) temps will be in the 70s to low 80s and the machine is very quiet.

Question: Is there any point to undervolting the Analog I/O or GPU on this machine? Does it even have an integrated GPU? Or am I misunderstanding what that is for?

 

Wow. Those are some great temps. I get my new Alienware R3 this week and if I have issues again, I'm thinking of picking this MSI up. Saves me $1000 over the alienware.

 

what did you use to undervolt? and how did you test stability? Thanks!

 

I used ThrottleStop to undervolt and tested stability with Prime95 (the small fft test)... but to be honest, running GTA V and Rise of the Tomb Raider somehow got my system to crash sooner than Prime95 tests... but then again, I'd usually only run the Prime95 tests for like 20-30 minutes. I think people recommend running them for hours. You're basically looking for a crash/lock up... then you adjust the undervolt amount and try again. I mostly used this article as a guide on how to do it:
http://www.ultrabookreview.com/10167-laptop-undervolting-overcloking/

Then I used Task Scheduler in Win10 to launch TS on log in. I believe you have to have Dragon Center uninstalled, or it will conflict with TS and try to override your TS settings. I don't see much use for Dragon Center anyway. I use MSI Afterburner to OC the GPU. I basically uninstalled all the software that came with it, I only have the SteelSeries engine so I can still muck about with my keyboard backlight stuff. I uninstalled the Killer software too, and went out and got the drivers only package from the Killer website. The Killer software was being a CPU hog. Same with Nahimic, that seemed to be snacking on the CPU as well. But keep in mind, I'm mainly using this laptop for VR, so I'm a bit obsessed with eliminating anything that uses even 1-2% CPU.

 

So, I got this laptop a month or so ago, really loving it but I found something somewhat annoying. The hinge on the right side of the screen makes a clicking noise whenever I open the laptop. It's a faint "click", but it's there. Does anybody have the same issue?

 

Alright, so after playing around with this thing for a few hours today, I think I am familiar enough to do a mini review.

Faults:
The first one is a noticeable random cracking sound while playing youtube videos when the volume is high at 80-90%. This rarely occurs, but it is frequent enough for me to take notice.

The second issue is the tendency for Internet Explorer to randomly crash upon first opening it. After it crashes, it cannot be opened again until after restarting the laptop. This, of course, is easily remedied by using chrome.

Third issue is the tendency for the native Nvidia display drivers to randomly crash when playing video games. This problem occurred in all the gaming tests that I have done so far. I played Crysis, Crysis 2, and Remember Me. All three instances, the display driver crashed after around 4-5 minutes of gaming, and the games crashed to desktop.

Fourth issue is the tendency for the keyboard keys to get "stuck". Not stuck in the physical sense, but sometimes when i press a key, it will bounce back up, but will continuously register itself on the laptop for a few seconds. I am not sure if this is a software issue or a hardware issue.

What I liked:
The general built quality is superb. Compared to the similarly spec ASUS GL502VS, this thing is light and days above the built quality of the GL502VS.
The audio quality is also superb. It is much louder than my previous ASUS UX501, and it has almost 0 distortions on max volume.
The weight is surprisingly light for how it looks.
The screen is bright and vibrant. My unit had very little light bleed.
Even at max fan speed, the loudness is very tolerable.
The gaming performance is through the roof.
The battery life is surprisingly good for what is packed within.

What I dislike:
How thick it is! For more of what I disliked, refer to my list of faults.

 

The DGC also installs XTU.XTU leverages the permanent system service, so if you plan to use The throttlestop, then ensure that also XTU is either down completely or uninstalled.

 

As the guys said before, the current and voltage which enters the CPU is distributed to cpu,system agent and graphic core which is not used on this unit but still requires the sufficient power supplying.
IT MEANS that if you shave off the processor input energy too much, CPU component may be fine but BSOD may be caused by unused but still active graphic core...

 

I understand, you still need to accept the fact that ultrabooks/lightweight cannot get rid of the heat effectively because the cooling system is not so robust.you need to sacrifice something.you can still keep it on your belly/lap what we cannot say about 17" laptops from this performance category.even 15" AW is heavier...

 

So what is the procedure when you get the laptop? I should be getting it in the next few days - clean windows install, anything else to do? Take some temps whilst gaming and make sure they are ok i would imagine, any other tips are welcome.

Very excited to go from a 950m to a 1070 monster. Will let you guys know my thoughts/feelings etc.

 

Initially try it with the MSI image that is preinstalled.just drop symantec.then try prime fft test or GPU furmark stress and watch the frequencies,temps on cores.ignore fan noise at.these tests.
Then try to have some half day gaming session.if all good, no stuttering, excessive fan noise then just use it...and don't waste your time.

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I would just drop the Norton and test as encheels said. Although I don't have the same model I tried a clean install and ended up installing most of the software again.

 

OK after having this almost 2 weeks everything runs pretty good except the random 1 minute freeze. I have put it down as the SSD since it only happens on items that are on the SSD (like OS changes or programs that only can be installed on C drive and not the 1TB magnetic drive. Going to exchange the unit, I reserved one since it was in stock for the weekend. Without the freeze issues, the machine is a beast, had it running the Vive in full res for a few days with no problems. Haven't given it a test of how other games run it, but in VR it is pretty awesome, the temps are not bad either for it being a laptop. Hottest the chips ran under full load (both cpu and gpu) was low to mid 80s, and that was without the extra fans running. It's extremely quiet, the size is a bit bigger than most 15 inch laptops, but it isn't too heavy to be a burden. I lugged it around traveling for business this past week for some VR demos and work and it did a decent job. Getting rid of the bloatware is definitely a better experience, I also suggest a clean install, rather than an uninstall as you don't have extra crap laying around. I'll post more info about the new one I receive tomorrow and report any other issues I have, I am hoping this one just had a bad SSD and it was just a bad draw.

 

By default Windows spins down or turns off the "disk" per the Windows Power Plan.

Some SSD's react slowly to being "powered off" and powered back on via the Windows power plan, so you want to set that to Never = 0.

Try that now if you still have the "bad" SSD installed.

 

Yeah did that over a week ago and it still happened. Basically it happens during the middle of operations where it is accessing the disk, disabling the power management on the drive and adjusting the virtual ram settings helped, but still every once in a while it will freeze for up to a minute. It can happen after a day or two of being fine, but it is all the signs of something is off. Would rather exchange while I can, rather than fiddle with settings or sending it in to MSI, especially when no one else has reported the same issue.

 

Darn, I guess it is something else

Is it an M.2 SSD that you can swap to another slot? I would try that too. Or, just lift it out and carefully reseat it to see if that helps?

 

Yeah it is a shame, but having it new and problems in the first day and continuing means there is something going on. It is almost completely random as well, I have worked a few days will no issue, then all of a sudden I will do something minor like press "apply" to some setting in a program and it will freeze up to a minute. I'll report here after I get the new one and see if it has the same issues. I doubt it will unless it is part of a batch of them, like I said it is a great machine otherwise, it's going to be a pain to return this and get the exchange since the Micro Center is no where near me. I wish it wasn't the case honestly but I don't want to get further problems down the road if I can just get a new one, and hopefully the problems will be gone with a new unit.

 

IDK what size it is, but maybe buy another SSD of another make / model / size, and use Macrium Reflect Free to clone the original vendor drive to an image and from that image to the new drive?

Then you would completely rule out that OEM drive.

That's what I did when I had a M.2 SATA RAID0 drive fail. I swapped in another drive and it worked fine.

Then you don't need to return or RMA just for a dead SSD.

MSI wouldn't swap me a good on for the bad one, they insisted I send in the whole laptop to get it replaced.

 

From the very limited testing i have been able to do the machine is a monster and runs beautifully. This is with the 1070

Temps on both GPU and CPU never go over 75 on auto fan profile, CPU cores are within 1-2 degrees

Wof each other at all times. Was getting some FPS drops on Overwatch but it was an in game setting causing the issue. I did the valley benchmark and the GPU never went over 70 or so.

Witcher 3 on Ultra with hairworks on max is running at a steady 60 FPS (all ultra) and looks unreal on the Gsync screen, honestly really beautiful (my external monitor looks about 20% as good as this screen, it's really nice. )

Another plus is that when doing an internet speed test i get almost double the download and upload speed compared to my old laptop, as well as no ping fluctuations. This would happen constantly on my old laptop and i thought it was the internet, now i realise it was the network card.

No issues with blackscreen or wifi, everything is operating in a very solid manner.

Only cons are that it's a bit thick and there is only 1 USB port on the left side, very minor gripes. The screen flexes a bit as well, but no big deal.

Only had it for a few hours so look forward to doing more testing over the weekend

 

As a proud future owner of the GT62VR, I feel hyped whenever I read every single positive review! Keep'em coming, folks.

 

You'll be very happy. MSI truly hit a home run with the GT62 chassis, build and performance. My biggest gripe was the CPU offerings. Not offering the 6820hk in the US is a mistake and is why I and other got the fully socketed barebones.

 

True. While the 6700HQ is quite disappointing (non OC-ability and BGA), there aren't better options to choose from in my area, as the rest will offer the same hardware and a worse build quality. I'd still sacrifice the CPU upgradability knowing the unit im getting is totally worth it.

 

Just picked up this bad boy from Microcenter yesterday. At $1399 it is an absolute steal. Just played 30 mins of F1 2016 and the laptop is barely even warm, haha. This thing moves a ton of air, I can feel the exhaust if I put my hand about 7-8 inches from the back exhaust fans.

How prevalent is the faulty space bar issue? I'm having the issue where the key press won't register if I press the space bar at the very bottom of the button. Happens left, center, and right. I can easily pay attention and adjust my typing a bit so my thumb hits the bar dead on, but it is very very annoying.

I've had horrible luck recently in trying to find a good semi-powerful laptop. Started w/ the new Razer Blade and had severe throttling issues. Tried an MSI GS63VR and it had a dead pixel. Tried 2 GS43VRs and 1 had a dead pixel, the other one had backlight bleed that affected the entire right side of the screen.

Aside from the space bar issue, one of the decals is a bit off on the back of the display and there's a dust-speck sized area where the backlight shines through the back of the display if that makes sense. Of course, because it's me, has to happen.

I'm so sick of buying and returning laptops. Would you guys keep this or return it and hope for better?

 

Went to Microcenter, they saw the issue and exchanged it no problem. On this new one the space bar is not perfect but much more responsive so it's a keeper. The store display model was the same as the one I returned. Happy that this one came with Windows Anniversary Update installed; the one I exchanged did not and took over 6 hours to update. Love this laptop.

 

Hi guys

I'm from the UK and was wondering if this is a good deal for the MSI GT62 https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01K5R4EYA/ref=twister_B01M8QSVF1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Not sure if there are UK based sites compared to Xoticpc which you can config the laptop...

 

Hmmm. Only 6700hq and 1060..and neraly 1600 pounds..it is too expensive.also they are writing that it has thunderbolt 3...i wouldn't so sure on that statement.USB3.1 presence does not automatically mean the TB presence.
If in uk, try to check cyberpowerpc fangbook's sibling.

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Thanks for the reply and yeah I agree it's not cheap...

 

Decided to do some CPU testing and I think mine is defective? When running blend test in Prime 95 my CPU temps are very uneven. Cores 0 and 2 are about 15 degrees hotter under load compared to cores 1 and 3. I know the Core 0 always is hotter, but for 2 cores to be about 15 degrees hotter isn't normal? I am not going to re-paste or re-seat, screw that noise. I just got it and can return it. Should I return it? Screen capture attached.

 

Read http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ven-core-temps-due-to-uneven-heatsink.797477/
Re-paste thermal grease

 

Thank you, read that thread and consensus was it was more due to hardware vs thermal paste? I'm not going to mess with re-pasting a laptop just purchased a day ago, no guarantee it'll even make a difference. I'll just return it I guess. Really a shame.

 

Yeah, return it, although your machine is not as bad as those from ALIENWARE...

FIRST...


THEN

 

Lol at the likely timeline. I don't think my temps are insanely high so I doubt I'll have problems down the road. But just knowing there's an issue like this is annoying and prob not worth keeping. Interesting read, that thread. Thanks!

 

You're welcome

 

That thread and early on in this one, combined have me almost sold on the F5 w/ a 6700 (non K) and 1070 w/ 230w adapter. Not worth it to go with 6700K and 330w adapter, too much heat and I don't plan on OC anyway.

I just did a couple more runs of Prime 95 small ffp and there's a 20 degree difference in cores 0,2 vs 1,3, which is ridiculous. Even the lighter blend test caused throttling down to base clock. Not cool. Hopefully Eurocom has better QC, love this MSI chassis.

 

Hi.

Im considering the 62vr.
Few questions (kinda hard reading 165pages)

1. Spacebar issue - does it happen? as a gamer imma click the left side of the space bar.
2. Does the majority get fine temperatures? (CPU&GPU). Undervolting might be ok, but re-pasting wont happen.
3. How noisy are the fans under load? If you can provide an answer with dB it would be best. Tried looking at youtube's reviews but havent found that measurement.
4. Is there a built in mic?
5. is there a Dual bad wifi receiver? (5Ghz)
6. Any other think I need to know about this machine?

I bought the ASUS GL502VS and returned it for bad thermals and battery issue.
I really need a good opinion from owners of this machine. I have no doubt the performance are amazing, but Im worried about thermals (i saw AW has many issues).

thanks in advance

 

Is it normal for an IPS screen to have some backlight bleeding when it's 100% brightness in a pitch black environment, i have heard that it's normal but then others are saying they have 0 backlight bleeding.

It's the only slight issue i have noticed and it only happens in pitch black settings, it's not enough to send back and im reading it's pretty normal online.

Other than that this machine is a monster and i honestly can't believe how beautiful Witcher 3 looks all on ultra with Gsync on, it's just stunning.

Bara I'm not getting any space bar issues, temps are very good (never hit 80 on either the GPU or CPU) Fans whir away but they are not super noisy, they are really good for a laptop actually. I'm pretty sure it has a built in mic. Not sure about the wifi but the performance is amazing, doubling my upload and download speeds and providing a much more stable (read no lag whilst gaming online) experience.

 

@jlp0209

In addition to sending it back I would fill out a review online to let others know about the issue. I had a friend return his first one to Newegg , it had issues and may have even been an opened box unit. A few weeks later he ordered one from Amazon and it was perfect and he is enjoying it. I think MSI may be growing at such a rate that QC may be slipping, that doesn't mean its a poorly designed machine though.

 

Many Thanks @Mornflake !

I have another weird question.
I am using an external charger (RavPower 23k MW) but I see a tip adapter for this MSI model does not exist.

I have searched all around the internet (Ebay, Ali express, Amazon etc) for a tip converter but I havent found any.
Just to be clear, I am looking for TIPs like in this picture:

http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/images/g/0AAAAOSwA4dWKa-D/s-l225.jpg

Does anyone know where I can get such tip adapter? (I have the universal cable, just need universal --> MSI adapter)

Thanks

 

It's similar to Toshiba ones, as it is the common type of tip so you should be able to locate one easily.

 

So I just got this computer on Monday and this morning I had I believe the windows anniversary update and now my audio is completely screwed up. Its very staticy and scratchy and basically unlistenable. Any suggestions how to fix this?

 

Hello,

New to the forum, this post is what helped me decide between the new ROG Strix and the gt62vr.

Unfortunately, I have had nothing but problems since I received my gt62vr. Initially while gaming I would get multiple graphics driver failures, which ultimately lead to BSODs. It then developed problems with wireless connectivity and speaker issues ( @ItsDayDreamer an issue that seems to be fixed by uninstalling the nahimic drivers).

I sent the GT62VR back and received another one in the mail a few days later, which had the same problems.

Ive tried updating drivers, chipset, full factory resets, etc to no avail. Both lemons? Any advice would be appreciated.

 

Uninstall Nahimic & realtek audio driver.then install Realtek and Nahimic back.it helps.

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Fi wireless and bluetooth issues, disable power saving in device manager.Also there were issues reported with the recent nvidia drivers.try to use the MSI released drivers.if you haven't updated nvidia drivers, then try to update then - that's other option.

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My friend has a GT62VR and is using Nvida driver 375.63 without any issues playing BF1.

 

Hello,
I was thinking of ordering the GT72VR for myself. But wasn't sure if i should get it because of the color banding and battery life. Can you guys please shed some light for me?
Here's the link for the one that I wanted to get:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834154375&ignorebbr=1

 

You are in the incorrect thread...gt62 owners here.

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Sorry, I wanted to mention to GT62VR too. Must have slipped my mind. Doesn't the 62VR have the same issues?

 

Battery on power saver 3-4 hours, high perf you will be happy with 1 hour..
I have not detected other battery problem, someyimes i noticed that battery is still at 93% level even when on cable and under normal load but MSI offers battery calib soft which may be helpful.
Color banding?u mean branding? In every case, provide more details on your concern.

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