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if you haven't ordered yet, you can simply use one of the online shops that offer customization services such as xoticpc, gentechpc, hideevolution, etc... and then you can simply choose the intel wireless card instead of the default killer card. You can also add a plethora of other customization such as more RAM, upgraded thermal repaste, etc...

 

Question: is the killer card considered worse than the Intel card? Mine has been working amazingly meaning insane download speeds and the lowest ping on every CS server I've played on. But if the Intel card is better, I'll upgrade that too since they are so cheap.

 

Those are some of the ideas I'm throwing his way, thanks.

I'm not sure if it's better performance but there seem to be driver issues and I don't know what the heck would cause it form disappearing form device manager. Are you using Killer suite, or just the drivers?

 

I just use Dragon Center and like the first day i had the computer i went and found the latest killer drivers. installed them and haven't looked back.

 

when going for the web store purchase from microcenter, they charged me additional ~$120 in taxes on top of the advertised $1,399. Does that depend on the state i am shipping to? Is it the same if I am to pick it up in-store?

 

Yeah i'm sure it's based on the state and really the county you are buying it in. Thankfully i am in a 6% tax county so my total was $1,484.99. So looks like whatever county you are in charges 8.5%. To more exactly answer your question i'm not sure if the tax is charged at the store it ships from or where you pick it up. I bought mine in store.

 

Hey does anybody else got a high pitch noise that is constant when its plugged in and intermittent when its unplugged? I think its coming from where the ssd and hdd are but not sure
This is my first notebook so im not sure if its normal or not

 

Tax is determined by where your personal residence is when shipping directly to you. In the case of buying in store or ship to store, tax is based on the county in which you buy it. This will vary by state and who you buy it from. Using TecnotecPC as an example, we are based in Nebraska and that's where our sales tax certificate is based out of, this enables us to (required to) charge sales tax for any in state purchases. If we had business offices in other states, any state in which we had a physical location we'd be required to have a sales tax certificate and thus charge sales tax for that state. Without a physical location in other states we don't, and can't, charge sales tax and it'd be on the purchaser to claim the purchase on their year end taxes as a result.

 

Does anyone know of the 2.5 drive is limited to 7mm, 9.5mm or 15mm thickness? I'm guessing it's the most common 9.5 but was hoping it might be the 15 since it's a thick gaming laptop.

 

Another question: I kinda asked this before but even with CPU-Z and HW INFO I can't tell EXACTLY what the ram is in the laptop enough to match it up to what's for sale on Amazon/Newegg/eBay etc. I know it's Kingston DDR4 2400mhz with CL 17 timing so maybe that's enough. But my question is, can I buy a 16gb stick to make 32gb total and be fine? I've been reading a lot today and most people seem SUPER AGAINST ever buying an odd number of ram sticks or non-matched pairs.

I don't want to touch the 2 slots that have ram already and are on other side of mobo which would require a massive teardown. So that means i need to leave the 2x8 sticks on that side. And the cheapest deal for 16gb i can find is on eBay for a 1x16gb kingston valueram stick that seems to be exactly what's inside the MSI GT62VR 6RE Dominator Pro already and it's $85. But that means I would have 2x8 in dual channel and a 1x16 in single channel.

I also know that 16gb SHOULD be enough for normal use and gaming but I think I want the extra wiggle room Any thoughts? Just a complete waste of money? buying 1 stick is fine? only buy 2x8gb sticks to fill those last two slots?

 

HWInfo will give you the info. When it first launches there are two windows that pop up, the one in the foreground will be the system summary and the one in the background will be the full application. Go ahead and close the summary and click the + next to memory to expand it out. That'll give you a stick by stick breakdown of what's installed, or at least should. You'll be looking for module manufacturer and also part number.

I pulled up my HWinfo to verify all this and actually found one of my sticks have been knocked loose and I've been running on 4gb for a few weeks without realizing. So thanks for giving me a reason to launch this

 

Lol oops! I see where you are saying about expanding the info next to memory and it gives a TON of information. All i'm saying is that the "Module Part Number" of "MSI24D4S7S8MB-8" and the "Module Seriel Number" of "3179810478" I can't find online anywhere. I THINK it's just the Kingston ValueRAM 2400mhz DDR4 with CL 17 timing but when I find that module on amazon/newegg/ebay it doesn't match those module or serial numbers. Maybe that's just a custom ID that MSI applied to the ram and doesn't matter though?

 

With the first bit of that being Part Number being MSI it's probably generic RAM made by Kingston specifically for MSI and it's a pretty safebet that valueram will match it pretty closely. You can compare the timings with what you found and double check that if you'd like.

 

what is your opinion on getting one 16gb stick to go along with the two 8gb sticks already in the laptop?

 

Sure, of course, you could do that but I'd personally prefer to add 2x16Gb. Or, if you're not looking for an extra 32Gb ram I'd go for 2x8Gb. Fill up those slots man!

 

Hello everyone!

I'm getting to chose a laptop from my company, they told me to pick any laptop and they will get it for me.

So I've decided to go for a 15inch laptop with a GTX 1070 in it, and I need it to use it as a desktop replacement at home and to take it with me everywhere on business meetings every day and on trips etc.

So my picks so far are the GT62VR, the Clevo p650rs-g and the Asus Strix GL502VS.

Basically I like the GT62VR for everything other than it's thickness.
Clevo for everything other than the backlight bleed and not being as confident in the brand as I am not as familiar with it.
Asus for everything other than the thermals as I've read they aren't that great.

How portable would you say it is? Would you say the extra thickness makes a big difference? I also see that the power brick is HUGE.
And why would you reccomend it over the other 2?

Thank you so much!

 

It's really a personal preference, I have been carrying 17.3 inch laptops around so your tiny 15 inch laptop would be easy for me, also the thickness may not change the size of the bag you intend to use so I would let it stop you.

 

The Clevo and Asus will have similarly-sized power bricks, since they are also powering a 1070 + 6700HQ combo.

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Yeah you're right. Only reason I'm choosing a 15 inch is because I'm planning to take it out and put it on tables in cafes and other places etc, and 17 inch laptops just take so much space even though some are really light.

I've actually seen the power bricks on pictures, they're not as big, epsecially the Asus has a relatively small power brick.

Also, would you reccomend going for the more powerful i7-6820HK or do you think the i7-6700HQ is more than enough? I read that the i7-6700HQ can lower the performance of the GTX 1070 slightly.
And does the 4K screen have a wider color gamut or is it the same as the 1080p version?

 

I'll be honest and say I never looked at the Clevo option b/c the MSI and ASUS were the ones that were on sale at Microcenter for $1,400 so it was a much better value proposition. Even if money isn't the deciding factor I can say at least between the ASUS and the MSI a few things:

1) Small but the ASUS speakers lie right where your wrists naturally fall in their quirky design so you will often be muffling the sound when not using headphones or a 2nd screen with alternate speakers.
2) Much more important is the thermals. Over and over I was told the ASUS will throttle and the MSI cooling system is much better. From all my testing on the MSI, my thermals are amazing. CPU has hit 87c one time as a max but 99% of the time seems to max out at 84c (that's playing GTA V on Ultra for an hour with it sitting on my lap which isn't the best for heat dissipation) and the GPU has never gone above 81c. At the end of the day, the coolest laptop becomes terrible if the fans are constantly loud and the cpu/gpu are throttling. Look at all the AW15's and the Razer Blades....they are super cool looking laptops and have many great features but because of their design (razer blade b/c of thinness, not sure what is up with the AW design) they sound like vacuum cleaners if you game and get insanely hot so you can't put them on your lap.
3) To go along with the thermals, fan noise has been AMAZINGLY quiet. I'm used to a super quiet desktop with noise dampening material in it. And this laptop is whisper quiet, even when gaming. I think that counts for a lot.
4) Lastly, and this one goes unnoticed very often, the ASUS has a 180w power supply whereas the MSI has a 230w power supply. This is again for gamers, but it's been reported that when you game on the ASUS, the battery will actually drain even while plugged in. That is totally unacceptable. No issue with that on the MSI. I've played COD IW for hours and battery stays high (MSI has a weird thing where it doesn't start charging until it gets to 92% i think. anyways, i'm always randomly checking the battery in the system tray and it says 92% and not charging even though i'm plugged in. i've googled it and supposedly that is in the MSI software to protect the battery's lifespan. no issue, just weird since i'm used to batteries staying at 100%).

So between those two $1,400 laptops it was a pretty easy choice. I'm not buying a laptop that gets insanely hot and throttles and I'm not buying a laptop whose battery drains even while plugged in when gaming. Sorry I can't speak to the Clevo but if you are near a Microcenter and the deal is still on I would recommend the MSI. It's also such a sweet spot for price since the only better GPU is the 1080 and the cheapest laptop with that is double the price ($2,800).

Oh and to speak to the portability, I use it at home and don't really take it with me but I feel like it's easy to get used to. It's obviously no chromebook, ipad, or mac air ultrabook but it's fine. You won't find a 1070 in a smaller screen and I agree that 17" is just too big for a laptop (totally subjective opinion but my opinion

 

Thank you SO much for the detailed reply! This helped me A LOT!

So, I think I'm basically sold on the MSI. Only a few questions more if you have the time to answer:
1. If I'm buying it in EU (or better UK), where is the best place to get it from?
2. Is the 4K screen any better regarding color gamut and other things or is it literally the same panel with higher resolution? (If so, I'd just get the 1080p as 4K is too much, too bad there is no 1440p option)
3. Is the i7-6820HK worth it? I read in one review that they think the i7-6700HQ isn't letting the 1070 achieve it's full potential (that might not be true though).

Thank you once again!

 

1. I have no clue so I would just say Amazon but i'm sure there are other options.
2. I never consider a 4k screen for computers or tv's at this point in technology for a few reasons:
1) Telling the difference between 1080p and 4k is hard until you are at much bigger screen sizes than laptops imo. Even then it's only when you look back and forth that you can tell a big difference and you will never do that at home. You will have 1 screen and that's it. I will say that after looking at my Note 5, then Note 7, then Galaxy S7 AMOLED screens this screen definitely isn't as amazing but then again, Samsung makes the best AMOLED in the world and so it's tough to compare.
2) Battery life takes a massive hit. Look at the Dell XPS 13 with 4k screen and then with 1080p screen. Battery life goes from like 6 hours to 13 hours. Battery life on this gaming laptop is already not great so why would you half it again with a 4k screen that you pay more for? Unless you have it plugged in 24/7 (which is fine) or do creative work that requires you have the best resolution screen (that is the main and only reason I see in ordering a 4k screen at this point).
3) IF you plan on playing games, 4k is a waste because you basically make your GPU work twice or three times as hard. So you either have to lower your graphical settings or just get used to much lower frame rates. You can obviously lower the resolution of the game while playing but then, why did you pay so much extra for it in the first place?

So if you do actual design work or CAD work or something, yes get the nicest screen you can. If you are buying this for Facebook, Outlook, emails, Chrome and gaming, I would say no.

3. I read the back and forth on the i7 6700HQ being a bottleneck to the 1070 and I think those guys are being way over dramatic. I think it's plenty fine and Razer even paired it with a gtx 1080. I haven't seen it be a bottleneck in GTA V or Civ 6 or Battlefield 1 or anything I've played. I wouldn't pay $120 extra or whatever it is for it but again if your company is paying for it and you have a larger budget, sure, why not? GPU is wayyyyy more important that CPU at this point in technology. The 6700HQ is still a 4 core with 4 threads. So if you are web browsing, email, facebook, gaming, it's not worth it. If you are doing complex 3D modeling, maybe?

 

Same here...initially i thought it has something to do with audio drivers.maybe i am wrong but i think that i had not heard that when i got the system from the store.
Then i uninstalled symantec some magix bloatware.subsequently the sound playback got some distortion.so i downloaded the september audio drivers /nihimic and i would swear that i hear these high pitch sounds from that moment.it really looks they are emitted by the nvme ssd and amplied somehow via unit speakers.not present in earphones.
Also they are not audible all the time.
I tried pure windows drivers for audio, the multiple versions of msi drivers...still the same.
It is not a deal breaker for me, just telling u that you are not the only one.

 

well this high pitched noise issue sucks...can't we just have a really quiet gaming laptop for once? The moment we got a solid cooling solution and quiet fans we have to deal with messed up audio drivers and mediocre speaker wiring?!! Why is this happening? Does it always have to be fixing one thing at the cost of ruining something else with you laptop manufacturers?

 

Sorry that you guys are having this issue on your laptops.

Are you able to send it in to MSI or is it your only computer? I definitely think this would be covered under the 2 year warranty.

 

I bought one of these from Micro Center this past weekend, everything is running good except I get the occasional lag and freeze for like a minute at a time. I tested all the hardware and it all came out ok and ran a clean install of Windows 10 and it even happened during just activating Clear Type. Is this a Windows 10 issue or could this be some hidden hardware issue? I might exchange it this weekend since I just got it less than a week ago, but after trying some fixes for power settings and virtual ram settings the problem is still there from time to time. I don't overclock or have any other modifications and I am an experienced user so I know how to test hardware and software. Just wanted to see if anyone else is having these issues so I can make the decision to try to exchange or not.

 

I am not having this issue and never heard of it. I would definitely exchange it. I exchanged my first one that had pretty bad light bleed. Second one, almost zero light bleed and no other issues. Microcenter is good about exchanges. Don't give you any crap

 

1 minute freeze???
If you are experiencing this frequently why you still haven't got the hwinfo with sensors started and logged?
What the machine reports at these lags?
Have you tried to put your OS on the HDD instead of nvme ssd?

 

Thanks I guess I will have to do that this weekend.

 

@lonewolf2877 - You might want to consider contacting MSI. Freezes/lockups are usually software related, though it's much easier to narrow it down to hardware if you're encountering them on clean installs/factory images.

 

Do you still have the stock OS? Have you also tried updating BIOS & EC firmware?

 

Earlier in this thread I mentioned that a friend of mine had some problems with his GT62VR and sent it back to Newegg and wrote an extensive review, which someone linked to. Today he received a new one from Amazon and is having a whole new experience. The first thing he notice is that the packaging was better and there were some stickers that weren't there to begin with, he thinks its possible that Newegg could have sent him a returned model. He also noticed that he was asked a bunch of questions when starting up windows which didn't happen with the last one. After running a few tests he noticed that the core temps were all the same whereas the last one had a 10 degree C difference between 2 cores. I think the last one was a lemon.

Quick question, there is a new BIOS out, I have always stayed away form BIOS updates unless there is a reason for them, Can someone tell me what this BIOS fixed?

 

Regarding the BIOS changes, the website says "Fix System will hang up when recovery win10 RS1 HDD image.", but I am sure there are more changes behind it however nobody knows except MSI R&D team. Also, the local MSI office may not know about the detailed changes.

And you are right, if you have no issues with your system then you do not have to update it to the latest and greatest.

 

Does it have a regular HDD installed? Try running with HWmonitor running in the background. There was an old situation with older GT series where the HDD would spindown to a sleep state, then wake up, causing constant "1-2 second freeze" and then everything went smoothly.

There was an additional similar scenario but it was caused by old wifi drivers.

 

RAM question: What programs do I need to test the speed and mainly the legitimacy (longevity; error free, etc) of the RAM? And what specific tests should i do?

Also for installation anything specific i must do? I was planning on turning laptop off, taking out screws on base, popping off the base plate, putting 2 ram sticks in exposed slots, putting base plate back on, starting up laptop. Not more complicated than that correct? Someone was selling RAM for this laptop on Amazon really, really cheap and it supposedly already shipped (slow mail so still a week to get here) so I will either get an empty package or the wrong/dead ram (so i will just get a refund from Amazon) OR it will work and be an amazing deal *fingerscrossed*

 

Only just bought this machine, added an extra 16Gb ram (2x8Gb), then fitted a 950 M.2.

After the bios update the screen stayed on the MSI screen until I switched off, removed the M.2. drive, switched back on entering the bios and then replacing the M.2. Bit annoying. This machine is fantastic! Really, really quiet compared to the previous MSI machines owned.

 

Hmm, that sounds almost like my problem but the freezes would last up to a minute. What I did in the interim since there wasn't any new laptops to exchange for was increased the virtual ram size, and disabled the power management features on the hard drives. The problem seems to have gone away the past few days. I have been running tests in HWInfo but haven't seen any anomalies that suggest it is a hardware problem. All the temps are within range and are close to each other on the cores. It is random, as I said I was in the middle of just adjusting the ClearType once when it happened, and never seen something like that happen with any of the Windows 10 machines I have worked with so far. I updated the BIOS as well, just to be sure, I still have a little over a week to return it if need be but it seems like the problem is solved for now. I do a lot of VR development so I'll be taxing it quite a bit this week to be sure.

Had done that but the freezes continued anyway, it seems adjusting the virtual ram and disabling the power management on the hard drives had solved the problem for now.

I did, but nothing stuck out to me as a problem. I'm not about to move the os to another drive, if it came to that I would just exchange. Unfortunately there were none in stock to exchange for but I seemed to have solved the problem by adjusting the virtual memory along with disabling the power management on the harddrives.

I think I may have solved it by adjusting the virtual memory and disabling the power management on the harddrives. If it continues this week I will contact them before I make the exchange to see if it really is a software issue. So far though it has been smooth sailing the past few days.

 

Ordered the GT62VR with a 1070, very excited to receive it and test out some games, mostly overwatch - it will be nice to not have to play at 480p quality and with input lag haha.

 

Just run prime95 bench small fft with hwinfo running and check your core temps when it arrives...report the core temp differencies in here.

 

Overwatch does not need a monster system like this one to run smoothly at 60+fps. It is not the right benchmark for assessment.

 

Will do Encheels, i fully believe the system will be operating perfectly. I'm planning to update the killer wifi card straight away, although having said that I'm not sure the one i ordered comes with Killer. Any other tips upon arrival would be more than welcome, uninstalling bloatware is a must of course.

I understand Overwatch is not a great game for testing, i was just stating my gleeful excitement at not having to play with 50% render scale (which looks like 480p) and unfortunately you need 200 FPS to not feel the input lag that is very evident with 60 FPS.

I will see how the game is running Witcher 3 and post some numbers

 

I've had the GSVR for a week now. I just installed Battlefield 1 and am having an issue displaying it on my external monitor.

On the laptop screen it's fine. I had to update to the latest Geforce driver (375.70-notebook-win10-64bit-international-whql) to play BF1 . After that and on load I get brown discoloration and the image is duplicated and shifted.

The only other game I'm playing is Empyrion which runs great.

The external monitor is a View Sonic VX2757. G-sync is disabled. Latest build of Windows 10. Connected via Display Port.

Here's what it looks like:

 

The clean windows istall is recommended, rather than the bloatware purge.you will be really suprised how differently ur machine behave...
Also do not put DGC on the clean installed system.rather choose silent option to fan control if you need and xtu or Throttlestop.

 

Seems like 3D Stereo driver is on - disable it on Nvidia Control Panel.

 

This is exactly it. Had the same thing on mine but it only showed up on external monitor (same as this poster) Weird default setting IMO.

 

Wow. What a stupid setting to be on by default. That was exactly the problem. Thanks guys.

 

Yes, learned it years ago with my 3D "capable" Asus G51.

 

Hi, guys! I'm thinking about picking up this bad boy. Currently, the only thing keeping me back is that the laptop is quite thick around the back, and it isn't exactly slim and light. I also have reservations about the potential battery life, as most reviews I have looked at reviewed it at around 3hrs general use. Is there anything else that I need to know before I make the purchase? Are there any common faults that most of you are experiencing, and how loud does it get at full load? Thanks a bunch, guys!

 

That's why I use Nvidia Custom Install, and only select the driver, HD audio, and Physx for install, I leave out the 3D, Geforce Experience (GFE), Wireless Video, etc - you could also leave out the HD Audio if you don't need it.

 

Buy it - just ensure that you can return it without a reason.
U must feel it, see it, hear it, difficult to describe.
What is noisy for me, may be angel whispering for u.
Also cyberpowerpc Fangbook may be the better option.. Swapable CPU..etc.