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Should be a walk in the park for him now that he's figured out mine.. Doing everybody elses is just modifying the boot logo (if you want) and he'll send the package over after a donation.

 

Svet is the top Ace in this area.

 

This i5 6600k was overclocked to 4.9ghz. It's fast becoming a trend. Battlefield 1 also was destroying i5 CPUs. Micro stutters were more commonly reported in the forums with i5 users even when heavily overclocked. Dice recommends an i5 6600k as the MINIMUM cpu for the game. Intel is expected to release 6 core i7 CPUs for Kaby Lake for other than the HEDT segment. This would be a first for Intel. Usually something like that signals towards change in requirements.

 

Eh bud, Did Svet successfully modded your laptops bios? What about the firmware? Firmware handles the wattage and fan speed so you can oc your cpu gpu to the max..

Btw.. if i ask svet to unlock the bios, i can only extract it thru cpuz.. what other steps he asked from you to extract the bios? Thanks

 

The only trend I see is bad coding / architecture for those games - there isn't any visible benefit that requires that high of CPU demand for Mafia 3. Releasing with a 30 fps cap is a big sign it's badly done.

Hopefully there will be more optimizations to follow, and for BF1 as well.

Not everyone is going to be able to upgrade to hex core laptop CPU's

 

That could very well be the case. I would hope it means they are pushing games farther and harder, but you could very well be right. I'm just reporting what I've seen. When I see GPU usage dropping below 90% at the same time CPU usage spikes too near 100% there is a problem and its causing the GPU to bottleneck.

Planned obsolescence?

 

The game came out with a 30 fps cap. It's graphics aren't showing me anything worth that kind of resource usage. It's got a long way to go to be optimized.

Let's see how it progresses

 

Hi, a stupid question but since this is my first MSI laptop: my GT62vr came out of the box looking great, however I noticed the right click button of the touchpad seems more depressed than the left click one. Is this by design or?

 

They should be even..

 

Just my luck then. On the other hand I don't have the space bar problem that I see people noticing on the forum. So worth it to return? Everything else is great, just the right touchpad button a bit more depressed. When pressing and comparing the feedback of the two touchpad buttons though, both seem to give the same physical feedback so to say, you don't feel like the right click button doesn't go as deep down into the keyboard, it doesn't feel different.

 

If everything else is good on the machine, I wouldn't worry about it honestly. Just thoroughly inspect everything else and test all components (game a bit and stress the components and make sure it's stable), etc.. I mean if it's no hassle to exchange the unit, then do it if you're anal like me.. It would probably drive me crazy not having a perfect unit for the price you spent. Just depends on your personality.

 

Oh I am anal alright, but now considering whether it is worth it to play the lottery again. I have a near perfect screen (barely any bleed, even and no stuck or dead pixels), for now I can detect no coil whine or weird sounds coming out of the system, I'm quite perplexed as my luck is not usually this good (especially with screens).

The slightly depressed rightclick button doesn't annoy me, it's more me being paranoid that it might mean trouble later on maybe. Going to play around with this thing another week to judge.

 

Still window shopping (well technically I'm pressed up against the glass and an employee is asking the manager what to do with the stranger breathing heavily and chanting some gibberish about "soon") but I'm still going between the 3 processor options available (6700K, 6700, 6700T). I do no plan to any over-clocking (GPU or CPU).

At first I was really looking at the 6700T because of the 35W TDP and being ~even with a 6820HQ mobile chip, but the concern is that while saving on that TDP it will eventually hit a bottle neck. I was also thinking that I would swap it out with a Kaby Lake CPU if it does become a problem, but then realized I don't even know if that will be a possible upgrade path on this unit. So then I go up to the 6700 at 65W TDP, sitting in that sweet spot between the two chips, but it feels like if I'm going up to that TDP I might as well go up to the 6700K and hit the 95W TDP, where I feel like the bottle neck concern won't be there, but now the higher TDP is there and concern for heat will force me into doing under volting (an area that I'm not experienced, like a 2 year old making cereal. Sure to most people it's easy enough, but somehow the 2 year old manages to destroy the kitchen.).

In general I only plan to use for gaming when I travel, but I might be using it as my daily driver until I update my desktop. Any thoughts?

 

I made a profile to match the max 4 core turbo speed of the 6700T of 3.4ghz at 35 watts. Yes, even the watts.. Actually lower wattage.. About 32 watts at 3.4ghz on each core. That being said, I think you should go for the 6700K for the flexibility of being whatever CPU you want. And eventually being a bottleneck, I hardly doubt it.. You'll long for just something new before the 6700T is considered a slow CPU. I can't even see the 6700HQ with hit's 3.1ghz 4-core speed being a bottleneck..

 

While I consider myself pretty tech savvy, I acknowledge my own ignorance and admit I did not know that you could do this. 6700K it is then, look forward to destroying the kitchen.

 

Both the 6700T and 6700K are top tier higher binned CPUs.. I wouldn't consider anything else but having an unlocked 6700K is just way more fun and flexible. The 6700T is great for someone who has zero desire to mess with their CPU and achieve ultra low wattage and low heat.

 

Hi everybody,
I've read this thread with a lot of interest and I am now planning to purchase a GT62.
Low fan noise is very important to me and I am wondering if there is a noise difference between 1060 and 1070 version of the MSI (6RD vs 6RE) ? As well as battery life difference ?

Thank you very much for answers !

 

I'd imagine slightly less fan activity on the GPU fan since the 1060 should run cooler but honestly the 1070 is well behaved in the GT62 that the fan never really gets loud at all.

 

Thank you Diversion.
So no impact on battery life as well I presume ?

 

The 1070 and 1060 both use the same idle voltage so unless you're gaming on battery, battery life should be identical.

 

I was reading through the Clevo/Sager P650RS thread and with all of those complaints about it, why would anybody even consider that machine over the MSI 16L13? I feel like posting over there but I think it'd just start a flame war.. The nonstop complaints about noisy fans is pretty bad.. I feel bad for them :/

And the temps are terrible on top of that.. and it's BGA. Wut. And it has a side vented CPU blower? WUT? Everything is just wrong about that design.

 

Eurocom e-mailed me back about the BIOS.. They know I have a unlocked BIOS lol.

"
It looks that your mange to supercharge our Tornado F5 into superbeast with unlocked BIOS from Svet. Well done!

Keep us posted"


Thanks Eurocom! Loving your Tornado F5.

 

@Div

Amazing. So they've been following us on here. The early adopters are good PR and advertisement for them. I emailed Garry over there after I had mine a few days and thanked him. Eurocom has my future business so far as they seem to be a small personal company. I plan to email them soon and extend my warranty to 2 years.

 

I emailed them back saying the machine has been the best laptop i've used in about 6 years.. It hits the nail on the head in every single category for me.. Gobs of power with all the flexibility I could ask for.

 

So eurocom still will not void warranty for an unlock bios? btw. did svet also modified your ec firmware? so you can oc the cpu/gpu more than 4.3 gigahertz?

 

Bro what are you talking about? The laptop even with a locked bios and stock EC overclocks more than 4.3ghz. I keep seeing random **** posted about these laptops from non owners that are 100% false claims.

The claim that the laptop cannot run on the 230w adapter is totally false. I've never had it **** down or fail in any way since ownership even with the GPU overclocked. You DO NOT need a 330w adapter. That claim is totally false and I'm not sure who started spreading that.

 

I've been lurking following this thread (and the one on the Clevo forum) and I'm really tempted in picking this one up. I'm coming from an AW 14, and I wish the Tornado came in a 17" model.

 

Did a quick test of Battlefield 1 @4.0ghz and 3.1ghz on all cores. This was done to simulate the F5 vs the retail GT62 performance gap. The fps difference was nothing short of amazing.

@4.0ghz on all cores the fps at a random location in a full server was 110fps.

@3.1ghz on all cores same spot and same sever was 88fps.

I tested by putting mouse on object and alt tabbing in and out and setting CPU speed/multipliers.

I think it's safe to say the 6700hq will perform significantly worse in CPU and GPU heavy games like this.

 

Similar effect in World of Warcraft.. At 4ghz FPS is far higher and more stable than it was on the 6700HQ at 3.1ghz. I was getting dips to 40 fps in major cities and now it's holding a constant 60 fps no matter what I do.

 

I just got the modded BIOS and instructions from Svet... it seems pretty complicated, although his instructions are very detailed. @Talon, @Diversion did you guys run into any oddities when flashing your BIOS? Anything else I should know before attempting? I have to admit I am both excited and extremely nervous

 

That's a massive difference Thanks for doing that test!

 

I was a bit nervous too since I was the first to do it lol.. You never know if it might brick your BIOS or not but you shouldn't have any fear since it's proven to work fine. Just follow the steps he provides closely. If you have any questions, I can help since I still have the steps too.

 

Agreed. Another rumor was that we don't have HDMI 2.0 and no TB3.0 lol. So weird.

 

like many others here have mentioned, this seems like quite an exceptional 15" laptop, a true gem flying a bit under the radar. like others, I stumbled upon this thread by chance and have been following it with great interest. excellent informative posts covering so many interesting aspects of this Eurocom F5 model (vs the retail MSI). have a couple of questions : has anyone had any experience installing Linux on this particular machine ? and also, besides the obvious chassis/screen option differences, how does this model stack-up/rate compared to the performance of the Eurocom Sky X4E2, that is if anyone can speak to that if possible. great thread, thanks all.

 

It is a great machine! No experience with Linux on it but perhaps you should just virtualize a Linux environment under Windows instead of running it natively? I don't have any direct hands on experience with the Clevo 15" DTR equivalent but I have heard the fans on the Clevo are louder.

 

Impatiently waiting for mine!

Question about the unlocked bios. What can an unlocked bios do that the stock bios can't do? I'm a noob when it comes to these things but have some interest in messing around with the unit. Trying to decide if the extra effort would be any more beneficial to me than the stock unit. I wasn't originally planning to OC it but after changing my processor to the 6700k and reading about it in this thread has sparked my interest

Thanks!

 

The biggest reason for me was unlocking Vcore controls. Without the unlocked BIOS you can still control processor frequency and voltage offset (using programs like XTU and Throttlestop), but direct Vcore control is missing.

 

I can control the static voltage on the CPU core using Throttlestop. I don't know about XTU though, I prefer Throttlestop.. I can't really think of what the BIOS enables that can't be done in Windows.. except for maybe BCLK (but I don't think it's working even with unlocked BIOS).

 

Oh interesting. I guess there is not really a reason for the unlocked BIOS except if you want to set your overclock outside of Windows (or if you want a custom boot splash screen)

 

Kind of, we'll have to see what things come to light from an unlocked BIOS.. but glad to have a new fresh boot logo at least haha.

 

Notebookcheck says otherwise about GT62VR; claiming no HDMI 2.0 and thunderbolt...is this what you guys are talking about?

Also, the framerates of AAA games on ultra setting are lower on this laptop than in other Nvidia 1070 laptops...the GPU is said to throttle. Only weakness in my opinion so far.

 

I think the confusion is there are two laptops being discussed in this thread, the MSI GT62VR and the Eurocom Tornado F5. The latter part of this thread has primarily been about the Eurocom. I can see where the confusion is if you haven't followed the thread from the beginning.

 

We're talking about the Barebones MSI 16L1 which does have TB 3.0 and HDMI 2.0. And the GT62VR DOES have HDMI 2.0.. I proved it with a picture somewhre back in this thread.

 

http://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-GT62VR-6RE-Dominator-Pro-Notebook-Review.171215.0.html

They say it is HDMI 1.4....could there be variations of the same laptop? Can you please confirm if you had the same specs listed on the link.

 

That's a lot of quoting, but saves searching.

Maybe @Talon might update the 1st post on this thread separating the 2 units or FAQ for new comers. I don't want to tell ya yer business or what not, but seems to be a repeating theme here and I know I'm not the only one who drops in a thread and will only read the first post and directly goes to very end and ask a repeated question.

 

Cool, I didn't know that abut the GT62VR. I wonder why all the published ads show it as having 1.4.

 

That is actually a good idea. I'm going to be off the new couple days, I will get to it tomorrow.

 

Because they made a mistake? Or didn't test it (clearly). They should all have HDMI 2.0..

It's on MSI's main website: https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GT62VR-6RE-Dominator-Pro.html#hero-specification

HDMI
1 x HDMI (4K @ 60Hz)

When MSI states 4K @ 60hz that REQUIRES HDMI 2.0 to work anyways:

Proof is from HDMI.org:

What’s new in HDMI 2.0?
HDMI 2.0 significantly increases bandwidth to 18Gbps and includes the following advanced features:

• Resolutions up to 4K@50/60 (2160p), which is 4 times the clarity of 1080p/60 video resolution, for the ultimate video experience
• Up to 32 audio channels for a multi-dimensional immersive audio experience
• Up to 1536kHz audio sample frequency for the highest audio fidelity
• Simultaneous delivery of dual video streams to multiple users on the same screen
• Simultaneous delivery of multi-stream audio to multiple users (Up to 4)
• Support for the wide angle theatrical 21:9 video aspect ratio
• Dynamic synchronization of video and audio streams
• CEC extensions provide more expanded command and control of consumer electronics devices through a single control point

Therefore there is absolutely ZERO WAY to get 4K @ 60hz without HDMI 2.0.

Now there's HDMI 2.0a which adds HDR support and I do not have a HDR tv to test with but it's possible it could support that as well since the new Geforce 10 series GPU adds HDMI 2.0a HDR support.

 

I don't think I've seen anyone say you "can't" run on 230w, just that some wall readings show over 200w usage, getting close to the 230w maximum.

Here's all the 230w mentions in this thread:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/search/15442354/?page=2&q=230w&t=post&o=relevance&c[thread]=793857

 

Yeah, MSI needs to get a 17.3" LGA barebones model out soon