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    The Official MSI GT62VR Owners and Discussions Lounge

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Talon, Jul 14, 2016.

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    Ha! Yeah I figured the part numbers were the same.. Now I get to keep the 330watt plugged in at home where I use the laptop mostly and keep the 230watt in my backpack for travel.. I always hate unplugging and wrapping up the PSU all the time over and over because where I plug it in is behind the couch and annoying! Thanks again, bud.
     
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    Put in my order! Garry says I should receive shipping confirm next friday.

    Ordered it with the 6600K, no HD, 8GB Ram. I separately ordered a Samsung 950 PRO 512gb from jet for $270. Also have 16GB DDR4 2400 Corsair RAM on hand. This should be fun!

    Going back to the PSU, any reason to get the 330 over the 230? Not really planning to OC and just using this primarily for gaming on the go.
     
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  4. Papusan

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    I don't know if this machine use Hybrid functionality like Msi and newer Alienware prefer. If so... You may kill the battery before time. And max out psu all time isn't a good solution either.
     
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    Thanks. Deciding if I should modify my order and go with the 6700k and change to the 330w PSU :)

    Any reason to go with the 6600k vs 6700k before my order is finalized?
     
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  6. Papusan

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    Hope I was part of this great decision :D Nice choice. Maybe I can see benches from you later :p
     
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    If you're not overclocking, why not just go with the i7-6700-non-K?
     
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  8. Papusan

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    K chips is better binned.
     
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  9. Mr. Fox

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    Yeah, go for it. You won't regret it. Totally worth it. If we can get the BIOS unlocked then it will be even more totally worth it.

    As Brother @Papusan mentioned, better binned. What that means is the CPU will use less voltage at a given clock speed and overclock better. Even if you don't overclock it should function with lower voltage and perform better while running cooler. Intel CPU quality and performance generally scales perfectly with pricing. Cheaper CPUs almost always perform like cheaper CPUs.
     
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    NICE!!! Keep us posted.. Oh btw... can you tell me your ign in MSI so that I could ask svet also when he finishes what you guys are doing with the bios? THanks
     
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    The unlocked BIOS would be nice for memory timings. I'd love to tighten these timings up a bit. @Diversion I'll put in $$ for an unlocked BIOS.
     
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    I'm Diversion over on the MSI forums where I reached Svet. He PM'd me after I made a post about requesting an unlocked BIOS.
     
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    Hi everyone, I recently purchased a GT62VR as a desktop replacement but after reading through some of this thread I've decided to return it for a Eurocom Tornado F5. However I noticed on their website they also have a similar laptop called the Eurocom Sky X4E2. It's just over a pound heavier and the screen hinge looks a little less strudy, but does anyone know if it any good?

    Also is it better to go with the i5-6600k or the i7-6700? I don't plan on OC'ing and I'm mainly concerned about temps and longevitiy of the laptop.

    And my last question, is it worth it to get the extended warranty? (I live in Canada). Sorry for so many questions lol.

    I'm so glad I found this thread. It's hard to believe you can get a laptop with an i7-6700k and GTX 1070 for basically the same price as a GTX 1060 laptop after the student discount!
     
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    You get @Prema Custom BIOS. Aka unlocked firmware :cool:
    Here an example of what unlocked bios can bring you - [email protected]
    upload_2016-10-9_8-10-17.png

    Or if you want a lower OC - [email protected]
    [​IMG]
     
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    Since you do not plan to OC the CPU, a custom Prema bios isn't for you. Go with the Eurocom. :D
     
  16. Papusan

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    Prema Bios isn't only useful for overclocking of processor :D A fully working firmvare(Aka bug fixes that ODM/OEM's never ever will fix)And upgrade ability for next processor series *Kaby lake* isn't something you can take for granted from ODM/OEM or resellers. Don't think Prema firmware is only for Overclocking!! :cool:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...oenix-2-is-here.794530/page-265#post-10322344
     
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    Does it really help to remove the spacebar issue?
     
  18. keftih

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    I haven't found a single issue with the keyboard, even at the extreme edges of the spacebar...
     
  19. Diversion

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    No the keyboard issue is sometimes it doesn't trigger if you hit the far right edge (like how I type). The Barebones seems to fix that issue I had on my GT62VR. Rarely miss a space now. Still happens though.
     
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    Maybe I should enlist Prema to do a BIOS mod on the barebones .. He might have more knowledge on barebones type units since the MSI and Clevos both use APTIO/AMI bios.
     
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    Give him a message https://biosmods.wordpress.com/contact/ Say you are on NBR
     
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    Barebones is now perfected:

    [​IMG]
     
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    Great for you and other barebones owners! Enjoy your rigs.

    Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
     
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  25. Talon

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    Share!!!!

    Can SVET do this for me with a donation or Prema?
     
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  26. keftih

    keftih Notebook Evangelist

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    So about that donation link :D
     
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    micman Notebook Evangelist

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    Can't really call this a desktop replacement anymore. It is exactly a desktop. Same price, actually cheaper if you have to buy a screen, mouse and keyboard. Same upgrading potential. Same performance.

    I'm buying one. In due time when I have the cash. + rep to you for the initial spend to get a proper bios. When I get this I'll drop whatever donation is required to svet.
     
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    Around 4 minute mark. An overclocked i5 6600k is bottlenecking the GPU with the CPU hitting 99% usage. I've said it before, we are fast approaching a time where the i5 is NOT enough in certain games. This was also with a GTX 1060. A 1070 would be an even bigger bottleneck. Anyone looking for the barebones I highly recommend you get an i7 unless you want to upgrade again later.
     
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    @keftih (Same goes for both of you)

    Unfortunately I can't share this bios (at the time of this writing) but you can directly reach out to Svet (I already told him I was sending a few folks over to him) over on the MSI forums: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=134259.0

    Let him I know sent you and that you have the same exact system and bios. I spent around $40 USD to pay for his time but i'm sure he'll take much less next time since the work is done.

    There's a process getting the new BIOS flashed, it's pretty neat with his custom tools, etc.. Custom bios flasher, etc.
     
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    Agreed we need the donation link.
     
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    He unlocked my GE62 system BIOS. I paid him around $25. It was certainly a process that is for sure haha.
     
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    Yeah, he's not even done with my BIOS per se.. He's working on replacing the EUROCOM boot logo with the custom one I provided him.. Once he figures that out, i'll probably donate another $5-10.
     
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    Thanks I PM'd him.
     
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    You must be JOKING. $40???

    He could charge $50-$100 and I wouldn't bat an eyelash. Per person. Clearly this is done as a hobby and not to make money.

    I will tell him when the time comes but I'm sure he's heard it before.
     
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    I totally agree.. That's why I'd rather him make some cash off each one of us instead of just sharing the BIOS and potentially ruining any relationship we have with Svet (and other big players in the community).
     
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    Once you see his custom tools he's created he deserves every penny. The guy is a mad wizard.
     
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    Not to doubt Svet, but can you confirm the unlocked bios setting take effect (i.e. it's not cosmetic)?

    Can you elaborate how involved the flashing process is? I can't say I'm extremely familiar with flashing a bios. Would you say the process is "not for the faint-hearted" :D?
     
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    Well I was able to set my undervolt via the BIOS and it works fine. I can't seem to figure out how to get the cores to a fixed multiplier and this could either be me not knowing how to properly use the BIOS yet or it's unsupported.. @Mr. Fox has said that sometimes it's cosmetic and still unsupported.. However I was able to change the ring/cache multiplier and that worked so i'm not certain what's going on yet.

    Process was easy as long you as you follow Svet's very detailed steps when he sends you instructions. Nothing scary about it, you'll have to create a bootable USB drive to dump and flash BIOSes, etc.
     
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    We got the BIOS boot logo working (absolutely love it!):

    [​IMG]
     
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    Your laptop is now full beast mode. You have to share it on Reddit. :)
     
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    Yep, i'm done with it now.. Just needs the new Samsung 960 Pro SSD and i'm set lol :p That and fine tuning of voltage, etc. in the bios of course.
     
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    Yes, yes.. done.... Until we start our hardware mods. It will never end!!! Lol.
     
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    Have you tried overclocking the 1070 yet? I'm curious how far we can push it.
     
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    +260mhz on core and +600 on memory seemed to work fine. I crash after +260 on core.
     
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    I remember reading that one of the owners of this pushed the core up +150-200 mhz. Can't remember specifically but it can definitely be OC'd.
     
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    That's... insane. So you're at 1645+260 MHz? Are you secretly running on LN2 :D
     
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    The 6600k has a smaller cache 6MB vs 8GB for the 6700k, and the stock clock Turbo boost is 500mhz lower:
    http://ark.intel.com/compare/88195,88191,94189

    It would be best to tune the 6600k for 4x 4.0ghz+ before gaming, to bring the clocks up to parity with the 6700k.

    You can't add cache or HT cores to the 6600k, and you wouldn't want to - more heat.

    One game that uses more than 4 cores is an anomaly, not a trend, at least not yet.
     
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    Lol, no.. That's not really that wild of an overclock, is it? My GT62VR before it did +240 core/+500 mem so both units are very close.
     
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    And to recap:

    Before:
    [​IMG]

    After:
    [​IMG]

    Get Svet some money and have your bios YOUR way :p
     
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    Awesome! Is the process to update the bios pretty easy? I'll have to reach out to Svet after i receive my unit.

    It should be shipping out on Friday!
     
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