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    *** The Official MSI GS65 Stealth Owners and Discussions Lounge ***

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    I've tried uninstalling dragon center and using silent option, but it made no difference in score and silent option ramped fans up slower, so it actually made my max temps higher. This all started I think after I updated the bios from the original to the 5/29/18 version, so I dont know if theres any throttling happening from settings that got reset
     
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    Can anyone help with some screws? I was opening the laptop up, and added a new m2, And i was going to repaste it too, but managed to strip the last screw head on cpu, so it wont butch. It didn't come loose so i just put it all together. Anyone know what kind of screws are needed for this? Also any tips on how to get it out? tried rubber band,glue etc, but the head is all messed up :( Also need a screw for the underside of laptop, managed to screw that up aswell. now it sits half way in. Dont know why but that hole got really tight to screw in.
     
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    how badly stripped is it? One way if its not to bad is to put a piece of duct tape between the screw and the screwdriver (or electrical or scotch tape) to add more grip. you can also try putting a single drop of superglue on, letting it dry, then using the superglue as en extension of the screw
     
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    Thats exactly what i tried to do, but just got worse. So its pretty bad now :(
     
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    Do you have a voltage curve to share? I'm curious if I can overclock the 1070 max Q to regular 1070 levels but reduce the voltage at the same time...
     
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    nah, man, its just a straight overclock. BTW, does anyone know if it's safe to disable peg0 ASPM in the bios? That gets me 400 in firestrike. BTW, @hackness, how did you set the 45W throttle? If I run my cpu at 3.8 for firestrike, it will hit 90 ans throttle
     
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    Perfectly safe to disable. Had that disabled for months. Mr Fox disables that setting instantly on his Clevo.
     
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    Cool. Does anyone know if the laptop has that disabled by default when you buy it? I’m wondering if it got enabled when I updated my bios
     
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    Weird. After turning off ASPM, although my combined score is 10 lower than @hackness (6028 vs 6038), my physics is 400 lower and my graphics is also 400 lower
    Even with OC on, still 400 lower in both physics and graphics
     
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    Disable C states. Or set max c state to C1E.
     
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    How can you use throttlestop to set the max c state? Also, Is it worth downclocking the cpu if it throttles under an fpu burn test in prime 95 26.6 and aida64?
     
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    I do, only because I'm not comfortable with 90+ temps. I like low to mid 80s.
     
  13. hackness

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    If you can make sure multiplier x36 on all cores stay around 45W and also not throttled by temperature, you should be able to reach that, I achieved that through undervolting.

    By the way, after comparing the options, this is what I observe between BIOS version 105 and 10B:

    105:
    1.ASPM is disabled in PEG by default.
    2.Maximum C state is on auto which goes to C10.

    10B:
    1.ASPM is enabled in PEG by default.
    2.Maximum C state is set to C8.
    3.Keyboard light goes dim every once in a while, the behavier looks like the keyboard light drive crashed and restart or something.

    Currently I'm on 105, I did flash back down from new to old, but I'm not sure if this has any draw back.

    I did change C stated to C8 when I flash back down.
     
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    Why did you flash back?
     
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    Because my Keyboard light keeps turning off and on every once in a while, after flashed back it's not doing that anymore.
     
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    This should do ↓

    Set like this in the throttleStop should give you similar performance to mine.

    For Turbo ratio you can set 41/41/40/40/38/38, but I personally never seen CPU multiplier going past x38.

    >>Speed Shift-EPP 96 SST
    >>Speed Shift enbled in BIOS
    >>Speed Shift Min 11 / Max 40
    >>Turbo Ratio 40/40/39/39/38/38
    >>CPU Core offset -117.2mV
    >>CPU Cache offset -55.7mV
    >>Intel GPU offset -150.4mV
    >>System Agent -70.3mV
    >>Analog I/O -61.5mV

    Fan setting (Fans never activate on Battery mode):
    >>CPU: 0% / 0% / 70% / 80% / 90% / 100%
    >>GPU: 0% / 0% / 65% / 75% / 85% / 95%

    W on full load with 40/40/39/39/38/38:
    >>51.8-53.1W

    Multiplier when 45W Throttle kicks in:
    >>36 / 36 / 36 / 36 / 36 / 36
     
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    Hello,

    I saw there are 2 models of the MSI GS65: one with GTX 1060 (8RE) and another with GTX 1070 (8RF).
    On MSI product page is specified that battery has 82 Whr for both models.
    But on my model (8RE) battery is only 80.25Whr (battery model is BTY-M6L - all this info canbe checked on the label from the black box); the same capacity I saw in the reviews pictures and how to upgrade SSD/RAM videos on youtube for both models: 8RE and 8RF.
    My question is: there is someone that can confirm that has battery 82Whr in one of this models? Or what is stated on MSI site is wrong?

    Thanks,
    Gabriel
     
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    MSI site is wrong. This isn't the first time.
     
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    Some sources give 5380 mAh, other 5280 mAh - that's it.
     
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    yes, if you are making reference to reviews, they are publishing the specs from MSI. That's why I asked if someone that own the laptop can confirm that has 82Whr written on label from black box (or in the back side of the laptop).
    Most of the seller are publishing specs from MSI site, but in reality when you receive the laptop is 80.25 Whr on the label.
    I was curios and I follow most of the laptop opening (to replace RAM or/and SSD) videos that I found; I did not see 82Whr batteries.
     
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    My setting to OC the 2400 RAM to 2667MHz in BIOS:
    20180618_2666 BIOS setting 1 - 複製.png
    20180618_2666 BIOS setting 2 - 複製.png CPU-Z Memory 2666.PNG
    CPU-Z SPD 2666.PNG

    Fire Strike score with RAM 2400 OC to 2667:
    https://www.3dmark.com/fs/15747446

    Small bump to the Physic score and Combined score.
     
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    Very jealous that you guys have DDR RAM memory voltage available in your Bioses.
    Fun overclocking for you guys. No soup for me.
    The GT75VR also has DDR voltage available. The GT73VR does not (There is absolutely no entry for it; VDD is shown but grayed as that is simply the current memory voltage).
     
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    Where did you set the speed shift min and max? I can’t find it in the bios or throttlestop.
     
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    I set it here.

    20180619 SpeedShift Min Max.PNG

    If you set it right, you should be able to see the current SST EPP the CPU is using here:

    SST change.PNG
     
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    Can you use AIDA64 to inspect the battery capacity and wear level?
     
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    Ha, look at that! 83.25Whr. 0% wear. Looks like it's higher than advertised and lower than the sticker says.
     
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    Great! Please kindly post a screenshot on that to share with everyone here, thank you! :)
     
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    I recently encountered a problem after an audio driver reinstall where nahimicsvc32 will start using an absurd amount of the cpu in some games. Any idea how to fix this?
    Edit: I try to reinstall the original Realtek drivers but it just loops saying it needs to uninstall the drivers after reboot
    Edit: reinstalling nahimic and audio drivers didn’t fix it
     
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    Remove Nahimic software completely, then download & install the latest version instead.
     
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    I did that. Problem only occurs for league of legends
     
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    I deleted nahimic, reinstalled audio drivers, then reinstalled nahimic. I didnt have this problem yesterday, and It only happens in league
     
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    since its only in league, let me try to reinstall league
    edit: that didnt do it
     
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    There's a specific post / thread to handle sound issues in Lol with many OS options, perhaps that or another game specific debugging post on the game vendor support site can help:

    Sound Issues
    June 14th 2018, 4:16:48 pm
    https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201761994-Sound-Issues

    Since that support post was started recently, this may be a recent problem, and it might not be quite "there yet" for successfully helping:

    WAS THIS ARTICLE HELPFUL?
    15 out of 247 found this helpful

    Usually when it gets down to one game, or one set of games from a vendor or development suite, better support comes from the game support sites.
     
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    Review :

     
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    I couldn’t install nahimic 2.5.29, it said my hardware is not supported. Can the gs65 install it?

    Edit: it only occurs when using the laptop speakers, with headphones in, doesn’t happen
    Edit:never mind, that was a placebo. Nahimic wasn’t running
     
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    Anyone else got a random clicking noise at the leftish of keyboard. Like you hear on a HDD drive sometimes. It happens sometimes, what could make this sound? battery? :S
     
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    Could it be the deactivation of audio for energy saving?
     
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    Is that a thing? But it happens when plugged in aswell. Anyway to test if thats causing it?
     
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    It’s plastic pieces of the aluminum bottom. Cover them with electrical tape if it really annoys you
     
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    Has anyone been able to install nahimic 2.5.29
     
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    omg just ****ing end me fam. Rebooted my computer today, tested it, and suddenly it works
     
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    Pretty sure it's the speakers. I had that issue but after my fresh install, it's gone.

    Also, I'm unable to use nahimic now for some reason. The software loads but none of the sliders do anything. I really don't care that much to get it back but it might not be a coincidence that my clicking issue stopped.
     
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    To fix nahimic, try going to the device manager and rolling back or updating Realtek driver. This can make nahimic recognize the device. Otherwise, uninstall hanimic, reinstall audio driver from msi page, then reinstall nahimic
     
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    CPU 85C GPU76C

    But this time I also used MSI afterburner Voltage/Frequency Curve Editor to increase the frequency curve slightly,

    Voltage smaller than 0.800V is set to +225 on core, Voltage after 0.800V, the core frequency is individually set up to 0.850V:

    0.800 = 1670MHz
    0.812 = 1733MHz
    0.825 = 1746MHz
    0.831 = 1771MHz
    0.843 = 1771MHz
    0.850 = 1797MHz

    I've never seen the GPU use more than 0.850V so for voltage 0.862 and upper, I did not bother setting it.

    If I move the frequency for sub 0.800V to more than +225, I get blinking screen when the voltage is lowered to 0.7V or something so I stop at +225 for sub 0.800V.

    Please note that if you want to use MSI afterburner, Dragon Center must not be installed, because Dragon Center will also reset the curve, so the software combination is either MSI afterburner + Silent Option or Dragon Center.

    The procedure is:
    Increase the slider of core to +225 -> Ctrl+F open Voltage/Frequency Curve Editor -> adjust frequency for individual voltage to desire level -> Set and save to profile.
     
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    I've been traveling and just had a chance to catch up on this forum. -A ton of good posts since I've been away!! Keep em coming. And I have a good topic too (if it has not been brought up already.)

    I noticed on my trips with Delta flights, which I flied with exclusively, that the laptop will not charge or power on the airplanes power outlets!

    Neither of my flights on all the planes would allow me to charge and power this laptop. I even tried other peoples ports. Some people were powering devices so the outlets were working. Any way to get this to be able to use the airplane outlets?

    I think they may output less watts than traditional and this power adapter ain't having it. Would love to be able to game on my flights.
     
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