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Jeez comparing the Aero 15x right next to the GS65. Both look so good

 

I think you're taking this a bit too far - hmscott merely suggested that Phoenix stop shilling for HIDEvolution. Phoenix does come on strong. I have suspected it myself. If you guys say so - I believe it. But why get so upset about it and not just deny it period? Seems to touch a nerve...

Crying free speech goes both ways - there have been posts suppressed in this thread due to this "situation"...

 

I've had "great laptop speakers", but not great speakers in a laptop. There just isn't enough space to provide the volume (air volume) to provide a hospitable environment for real speakers.

The trackpads, keyboards, speakers, and even the display built in I look at as fall back functional substitutes for much better external tools.

Keeping my human hands off the keyboard / laptop and distancing myself from the laptop with an external keyboard / mouse / trackpad greatly reduces the need to replace the keyboard due to liquid spills and keycap / switch failures over time. $100-200 / laptop or more saved over time.

I also carry a keyboard / trackpad / mouse in my backpack for work use, again saving wear and tear on the built in components, while uplifting my input experience many times over.

Headphones, external speakers, external monitors also round out fixed position use, enhancing the functional input experience greatly. I usually use the display even when connected to an external monitor, even at 18.4" for a built in display I still prefer a much larger external screen.

There are times I need the built in keyboard / trackpad, and display alone, even using battery, but they are all rare and I can deal with the inadequacies aok when doing so.

I've seen people not get a great performing laptop due to speakers, less often due to keyboard / trackpad, but for me I can work around most of the built-in parts of the laptop, except for the CPU and GPU and Display, as long as those are top notch for the price, and I can tune them for my use, the rest is replaceable with external components that are much better than can be fit into the laptop.

 

Donald's tone didn't seem angry to me. It seems like he was clearing the confusion that was originally started.

 

His post calls out "free speech" which is a pretty big leap to make. As if there is some kind of operation to shut people down going on...then he says that hmscott attacked Phoenix which is barely true. He said to "stop shilling" and Phoenix proceeded to make multiple insulting posts (which were later deleted) so it's hardly "true" what Donald wrote himself.

Anyway, whatever.

 

I forgot that I took these before I sold off my Razer Blade v5 14" - comparison of a 14" laptop versus the 15.6" GS65:





Also - for those that care - the Amazon Basics 14" sleeve does not fit this laptop, you'll need the 15.6" one. It's a bit big, but whatever.

 

Why post such comments (aka the first one) on the forum in the first place? Pretty unnecessary. But now it's time to move on. OK?

 

Because it has relevance? Phoenix offers free tuneups for only HIDEvolution buyers - all while pushing the importance of expensive HIDEvolution add-ons like liquid metal repastes. Hell, I fell for it myself.

 

Although he offer free tuneups for HID gaming team members and talk nice about the company he bought from, does not mean other should throw out accuses or say he should stop talk about a company he is fond of. This is what I will call low level. And most who have followed Phoenix the last years, know the truth. Why other want push this into the dirt, I don't know. But it's sad to see. Especially sad to see for us who have had more with Phoenix to do than other who just trow out whatever they feel fits. We know the truth. And this should stop.

For the records... I and a few on the forum have pushed on companies like etc HID and talked about the (benefits with use of Liquid metal) and that they should offer it (still a higher risk than put on ordinary thermal paste). I'm happy they listening on us. Call it expensive HIDEvolution add-ons is quite special. And if I remember correct... I mean it was me or @Mr. Fox who pushed bro @Phoenix in the right direction (Use Liquid metal). Of course he will bring it out to the others Rememeber not all resellers offer this nice option.

 

MSI GS65 8RF Stealth THIN-068

With no undervolt, after AIDA64 stress test, several benchmarks and at least 1.5 hours of intense gaming at Ultimate settings...these are the highest temperature spikes we recorded.

Stock:
GPU = 79C - CPU 92C

With Grizzly Conductonaut + Fujipoly Extreme Thermal Pads:
GPU = 75C - CPU = 84C

 

Huh? You posted this on May 6...

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-owners-and-discussions-lounge.815216/page-31

 

So, for the straight scoop.

The information here is incorrect. https://www.techradar.com/reviews/msi-gs65-stealth

None of the current GS65 models have the switch which has the fingerprint reader function...never had it.

MSI will be releasing a replacement for the MSI GS65 8RF Stealth THIN-068 around July, same configuration, same price, but it will be the first model that has the fingerprint reader switch. Others may follow in time.

 

Yes and so what? He is free to share useful info as many times as it takes, we appreciate it. What useful info do you post other than bashing other people?

 

Dang, kinda sucks but I don't think it will matter to me so much... But would be nice if it was only software and not hardware change, especially since MSI let slip this rumor to LTT giving everyone the wrong impression...

Tomorrow FedEx delivers my laptop... Unfortunately, I'm in the hospital for a few more days but look forward to trying it!

 

You sure? I talked to an MSI rep today and he verified that every GS65 has a fingerprint scanner in the button, it just has yet to be enabled. The internal ribbon cable has an array of traces that are more than what you would expect from a standard power button.

Edit: I’m leaning toward the MSI rep being wrong. Looking at the GS65 configuration page, there is clearly a new SKU GS65 Stealth THIN-259. If you look all the way down the list of specs to the notes section it clearly states “Fingerprint scanner” while none of the other SKUs share the note. Looks like we got bamboozled by the script given to early reviwers and we fell for it.

 

Hi all - Owner of a GS65 as well. Love the system but have an issue.

I'm curious has anyone else experiencing the "Intel + NVIDIA Laptop Freeze Problem " as described in (there a plenty of other places on the net that speak about it as well)

We are talking micro freezes/mouse freeze for a short burst while doing certain things.
Right click Display Settings on Desktop, Click on Battery on taskbar, etc...

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us.../93e7004a-62b1-4211-8e37-4c136608865e?page=76

Seems like an issue that has been with Optimus/NVIDIA/Intel for quite some time - and it's quite annoying on new $2000 laptop.

Any ideas?

 

Yes, it's a known problem and at the moment it affects ALL the laptops with Nvidia Optimus. It happens rarely, fortunally.
At the moment, the only solution that I know is to deactivate the Nvidia board when not needed.

 

I'm glad to see it's a common issue and not machnie specific (although I would've thought it'd get fixed sooner that way?).. definitely experiencing the battery icon freeze quite often. Just a slight annoyance but not a big deal

 

Where are you getting this info? MSI has been telling all the reviewers that the fingerprint reader was already built in.

 

I've found that a fresh install of Windows lessens the frequency of it happening. If you want to permanently remove it, just set an always open app to use Nvidia graphics. Trouble is you'll be using more battery life.

Phoenix mentioned in another thread that there was a way to fix it with an unlocked bios. I never got around to testing it.

 

Can you please tell me your Intel and nVIDIA Graphics Card Driver version?


This is the latest Intel Graphics Driver = https://downloadmirror.intel.com/27780/a08/win64_15.40.38.4963.exe

Uninstall the old one then reboot, then install this one and reboot

If that doesn't fix your issue, let me know

 

Just feels like an advertisement. No reference to a post or anything.

No need to get defensive, you can see my useful posts in the past few pages. I am not bashing anyone, just calling into question some of the practices on this forum.

 

Wrong link? That file was for Haswell/Broadwell.

 

I'm on Intel 24.20.100.6025 and Nvidia 397.64 on a fresh install. It doesn't happen every 30 seconds like it did when you first set up the laptop but it does still happen when I click the battery icon. There's that slight pause where the GPU checks in and then it switches back to Intel. Frankly, I'm used to this as it's been a problem for almost 2 years now...

But I do recall you mentioning somewhere that there is a bios setting that is causing the issue and something needed to be disabled in order to fix it. I'm pretty sure it was you but I just looked back and can't find the thread. It wasn't a default setting though and required an unlocked bios to see it. I was just curious if that was still a fix or not.

 

I’m pretty sure it was someone trying to sell a bios for a fee to the people here. Afaik this issue isn’t fixable from the bios since it’s a mix of issues caused by Windows and Nvidia. Intel has already processed the bug and released a fix for their share of it, quoting that any other freezing isn’t caused by their software stack. I’d contact Nvidia or Microsoft for any further resolution

 

Hey all! Looking forward to picking one of these up. Specifically, the 068 model. I'm planning to add on the Thermal Grizzly/FujiPoly pads, but is there anything else I should look at? Specifically, is this laptop known for backlight bleed issues or dead pixel issues? Trying to decide if I should buy either of those warranties.

 

I do not recommend going for the re-paste for the $$$ - there's not a huge difference in temps (up to 8 degrees) - and you can just undervolt using Intel XTU to get those same results also with better performance (less/no throttling). I paid an extra $95 to HIDEvolution for liquid metal/Fujipoly and the results aren't that crazy great.

Look at Best Buy they have a model for $2000 that is the sweet spot, really.

Happy to assist with using Intel XTU, etc. It's really easy.

 

I actually looked at the Best Buy model. My problem is that I want to be able to have the 1TB of space in there, along with 32GB of RAM. Not necessarily needed right now, but down the line. It looks like a pain to tinker with and, while possible to take apart and get at those slots, I'd rather not risk it. Plus, I'm not a big fan of the Geek Squad warranty stuff.

As for the repaste -- it may not be a big effect but that coupled with the XTU stuff should be good. From the results I saw earlier in the thread, it was a 5ish degree reduction. Which is about 5% from what I can tell. I'm very paranoid when it comes to heat in any machine I run so I'd rather be overkill in this department than run things at the line. That said, I'll definitely reach out for help with the XTU stuff when it gets to that point...unless it requires futzing around with hardware, at which point I'd probably be out haha.

 

My bad, here's the link: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/do...-Graphics-Driver-for-Windows-10?product=80939

 

The setting that is hidden fixes the mouse micro stuttering which happens on wireless mice usually. It has to do with the stupid Intel Software Guards Extension that is enabled by default form MSI for God knows what reason as that is a feature only needed for app developers who want to incorporate certain security technology in their apps and not needed for normal or power users.

 

Can always order from NewEgg, in that case:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834154803

Checks your boxes for 32GB and 1TB. I will say, you could get away with 256GB or 512GB storage and 16GB of RAM pretty easily and save some coin. But it is all about what you are looking for!

 

Oh I totally get that! I know I could easily save some money. And I probably would be fine with that for now at least. I'm looking a year or two down the road more than anything else, and know I'll want the 1TB of space. Especially if games continue to get bigger. I'd just rather have the space and not need it than need it and not have it. If this were more like the, say, Zephyrus with a more user accessible board, I'd probably feel different. But I'm not going to try to tinker with this one haha.

I'll continue to debate on this and make a decision asap, though. Thanks for the suggestions!

 

And this setting is inaccessible using stock BIOS?

 

@Kokorone's Edit hits the nail on the head. You can count on the fact that what is said is 100% accurate, and straight from the MSI Product Manager, not some rep that isn't as well informed.

What MSI actually tells reviewers, and what the reviewer hears, can be two different things.

 

Hey guys. Just receieved my GS65-054 from ibuypower. Hasn't been that many reviews with the company but I thought I'd share. I just got the standard 16gb ( 2 x 8gb) and a 256 nVme with thermal kryonaut and a fresh install of windows. It came as ordered and on time with them sending me texts as it was going through their process. I managed to get mine at a discount from their site and I'm really happy with it (always have a 5% off code). Funny they shipped it with a CD of windows 10 pro reinstallation hahahaha...... nice joke guys (didn't have to pay for that). The really cool thing is they shipped it with the thermal grizzly kryonaut used package with leftover compound to show me that they in fact did it.

Some notes about the laptop... The display is just amazing!!! No picture or youtube video came close to how great it is. It's even brighter than I thought and only a small amount of flex. It's so thin I'm afraid to break it since I've never had such a thin screen before. There is some flex in the chassis, BUT I realized that when I was testing the flex I was pressing pretty hard and noticed my asus gl703vm was doing the same and i never noticed. That being said, it's basically a non issue since there is no flex when typing and you'll think it flexes so much until you realize how hard you are pressing.. I really like the keyboard, it seemed pretty lame there was no function button on the left side! BUT, luckily, the MSI Dragon center came to the rescue and allows me to swap the functions of the right Fn key and windows key so I use it that way. It's really nice when I press the key and the keyboard goes dark to just illuminate the secondary function keys. Typing has taken me some time to get use to but It's like my old macbook pro and the font hasn't remotely bothered me. The speakers are a lot better than I anticipated (much better than my MBP) when I am playing music on spotify. The power cable coming off the right side is something you forget about literally instantly. It's not in the way and doesn't come close to interfering with my gskill mouse I use. The power brick is the size as my iPhone 6 plus and the thickness of a nickle. The track pad is on point and there were no freezes for me while using it. This thing is amazingly quiet, no noise from the fans during normal use and playing games on max setting and max fan it wasn't as loud as the GL703VM I have with a 1060. Hats off to ibuypower for getting it right and their technical support answering all my questions when I had them.

 

This is results from MSI's factory. Not even Base clock frequency... And not all have ambient temp equal where the review is done.


Of course you can undervolt. How much depends on the well known Silicon lottery. But how long was Adam in paradise? Dust will come already after first weeks use. How much temp headreoom have you if the start point is bad and after some use? One thing is for sure... Temp will increase. And you will have to send in your toy. Time cost money. Some need their computers inhouse every day. A computer sitting on the tech depot won't make money. Only add cost.

And how many will manage the maintenance aka clean it up (even change thermal paste by themself) when temp start go wild due almost no temp headroom? As you can see... It's a reason resellers have to put up the prices a bit due how much work they put into, to give people less problems.

maintenance
Unlike the Aero 15X, which provides access to all major components, the GS65 has very limited maintenance options. After the case back has been freed of 15 Phillips screws, the underside can be pried out of the anchorage, but behind the plate only the fans, the battery and the radio module are waiting (see photo).

In order to achieve the graphics card, the processor, the main memory and the solid state drive, you would have to additionally unscrew the motherboard and turn around, which in itself would not be a major problem, but deters because of the many cables. In any case, the complicated maintenance ensures that the case score continues to slide downwards.

 

Thanks @Papusan. At the request of Donald at HIDEvolution I edited my post to reflect the 8C difference.

In my opinion, the $95 for liquid metal and Fujipoly was not worth it - but for those that want upgrades in a difficult to upgrade laptop, I do recommend HIDEvolution as an option. Just be careful with which thermal upgrades you choose - often factory is just fine with the availability of great software like Intel XTU and ThrottleStop. But hey, what do I know, I've only owned 4 Pascal laptops now.

P.S. my ultimate recommendation is to buy the GS65 from Best Buy for $2,000...

 

Just wanted to make sure to say I do appreciate your suggestion, and I did consider that! But for me, a couple of things push me towards a more custom build. For someone less worried about temps than I am, or who don't mind tinkering themselves (or are ok with the lower RAM/HD space), then it's great.

I'm just picky and would rather max out a laptop config at the start, and know that 512 space would get small fast for a gaming machine (My desktop fills a 512 GB SSD really fast if I'm not careful).

So yeah, really appreciate your sharing!

 

Back on the road - first test of my HIDEvolution GS65 with LM + Fujipoly in ARK: Survival Evolved - with no undervolting the results are not that good considering the thermal "upgrade" - keyboard is hot to the touch while gaming which is crazy.

Donald reported top temps of 75C for GPU and 84C for CPU in their testing - so I guess they did not use demanding enough games or perhaps my laptop wasn't repasted properly?

 

4 CPU Cores at or below the 84C I reported, with 2 Cores at 3C higher. Core 0 at 84C, and Core 2 at 87C throttling...but all 6 Cores within 4C of each other.

I am not sure why you would think this means a bad Thermal Material application. @Mr. Fox @Falkentyne @Johnksss @bloodhawk @TBoneSan @Galm @saturnotaku or anyone want to comment on whether they think these results are attributable to a bad paste job? We would welcome the feedback.

The GPU temp is considerably higher than our testing revealed. Have you made any adjustments to your settings from what was delivered? Either way, I would recommend reaching out to our Tech Support/Warranty Service Team for help. That is what your Warranty is for. If you should ever need tech support or warranty service, please understand that I am not a technician, so it would be better to contact our Tech Support Team by phone at 888-666-3418 Extension 3, between 9:00 AM and 5:00 PM Pacific Time, Monday through Friday, by email at [email protected], or by Online Support Ticket at http://www.hidevolution.com/contacts/ (in the department dropdown menu select Zoltan S - Tech Support).

Please let me know if they don’t resolve your issue.

 

Brother @Donald@HIDevolution , I can't comment on this because I get extreme OCD and I instantly repaste if I ever have more than a 2C core temp difference in prime95. I tear down the heatsink, if the 'hotter' cores are on the sides closest to the thermal VRM pads, I lessen the pad thickness and if that doesn't work, I sand down the heatsink. I am an extreme nut job. My last 4.7 ghz cool room (not cold) run last night, with Prime95 small FFT with AVX disabled, was 83/82/83/83 after 10 minutes. Any core temp differences higher than 1C=LM repaste.

Trust me. I am a nut job.

Usually, temps within 3C under heavy balanced load is a great paste job. I consider >4C to be bad, because that means there is a danger of LM oxidation and dry out due to less pressure on the hotter sections and less pressure+heat stress can cause more uneven absorption of part of the LM alloy into the outer layers of the copper, leaving even weaker contact on those cores, and causing what I describe as "runaway cores."

This issue was seen extensively by @Ivan994 and @GENOCID and I think one other, maybe @JeanLegi until they all sanded down their convex heatsinks.

 

This were my Temps after my first repaste with LM without sanded heatsink first picture was done at normal use (no cooler boost) just to show the differences of the core temps. this screeshot was created arround the 16th of March


this pic 2 weeks later it is with cooler boost on and after i use abrasive paper to sanded the heatsink.
you see that the temps between the cores is much better.

 

That variance is neither bad nor abnormal. It is pretty typical, in fact. The best paste job in the world may not improve such a small variance. And, it may be different tomorrow, depending on what kind of Windoze OS X bloatware process is running in the background.

 

Usually with GPU heatsink tried 2 HP omens, asus G752-Zephyrus-GL series, alienware pascals (seem to have the best of the bunch, although still poor contact) is much more deformed than cpu side (larger contact on gpu, larger error margin).

On all the notebooks that I take apart above, only the surrounding edge of the pascal die have good pressure and the rest not so much. So this is why thick thermal paste like phobya nanogrease or even ICD can work better than LM.

If I don't readjust the heastink by bending (can only fix so much imperfection), normal thermal paste will do better since the gap is too big for liquid metal. However there's a limit to how much you can bend before damaging the copper.

In the future I will try lapping the heatsinks since I'm not very confident in doing that just yet. Tried to sand lightly but don't seem to affect temperatures that much since the contact improvements was very marginal.

Liquid metal can be used, just not optimal and needs significantly more amount when you apply which has its own issues of spill hazards.



GTX 1060 and below have smaller die size for the GPU, which might make adjustments to the heatsink easier.


Just my experience though, YMMV

 

I'm sure you know different ambient temp can make some difference. Same with heatsink (none is created 100% equal and with perfect fit). And will ARK: Survival Evolved tax all cores equal? Windows task can suddenly put more load on one single core. There can be a difference in many ways.

See the video from overclocker der8auer testing his Direct-Die-Frame cooling tool. Top notch heatsink and perfect fits + good quality bins on chip doesn't mean you will get 100% equal core temp differences between the cores. It seems people think 0-3C differences between hottest vs. coldest core is the normal. There will always be a difference whatever you try to reach. Some will get better and some worse results. The results you talk about is within good level.

Well said. +rep

See my post above. Remember you run all 4 cores equal clocked. The loced down or partially locked down 6 cores Coffee Bga chips run with max boost on one damn single core. There will always be a difference what of the cores who risk run hottest. The load can be different. In short many variables can make a difference...

 

I recently had my sweet 5.6GHz 8700K running 20°C higher on core #5. (Yes, I said 20°C hotter on core #5, that is not a typo.) Could not for the life of me figure out why. It just started happening. I began an RMA process on the CPU. The day before the replacement CPU arrived it went back to normal with a small 3°C-6°C variance between the hottest to coldest core. The replacement CPU was a worthless piece of trash. Worst sample I have ever seen, in fact. It would barely handle 5.0GHz and took a ludicrous amount of voltage (1.425V for 50x6 LOL). I sent it back with a note that the replacement was worse than the one it was supposed to replace. And, I still don't know why it was running 20°C hotter on core #5. That problem has never resurfaced again. Really weird, but a good example of why stressing out over it probably burns more calories than what is warranted.

 

Thanks everyone. I am not as worried about the CPU temps but more the GPU. They are way out of spec for this machine, at least in terms of what has been reported for repasting results by HIDEvolution (and even without repasting - they had 79C stock, I'm at 87C with their liquid metal repaste and Fujipoly pads). I'm also not happy with the hot keyboard. I will engage support as a last option, because surely it means I will need to send the laptop back and I don't want to be without it for more than a few days (I have work trips weekly).

Here is more info:
- Windows 10 Pro, version 1803, all patches applied - 64-bit (no clean OS install done from HIDEvolution - I just uninstalled Norton)
- AV is Windows Defender
- NVIDIA driver is upgraded to 397.64
- Running programs while playing ARK: Survival Evolved (online): Discord, Steam, Dragon Center, SteelSeries Engine, MSI True Color, SCM
- Using the "Auto" fan profile.
- No undervolting
- No overclocking - all stock.
- 75 F room, flat wood desk

A couple more results from this AM - played about 45 min.

My next step is to undervolt while playing to see if that helps the overall system temps and perhaps the GPU.

 

This is a little random and off topic from your thermal talk but the sticker on the computer says 144hz 7ms ips level display (optional). I'm guessing that means they will provide an sku with a 4k display in the future?

Also. Can anyone help me with a guide to undervolting. I have MSI afterburner but I have no idea what I am doing. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

 

You guys are all talking about core temp differences, whether LGA or BGA. No one here however has hit the target.
@Donald@HIDevolution @Papusan @Mr. Fox

In my own excessive experiments with removing and repasting an ALREADY PERFECTLY sanded heatsink, here is what I found out.
In dealing with direct die contact, rather than a heatspreader IHS, two things greatly impact core temp differences (assuming a perfect flat heatsink; note that most current MSI CPU (used on the Titans that have the GT72/GT73 type block) sinks are convex, yet their GPU ones are mostly flat):

The first is applying enough LM.
Too little can be very bad. Since some of the alloy will always be absorbed into the very edge of the copper, applying too little and not compensating for this can actually leave the CPU dry with only hardened remaints of the non absorbed parts, causing hot spots over time, usually a few days. Applying a little too much and painting the heatsink with LM first (this also applies to the IHS--painting the underside of the IHS with LM has been proven on overclock.net to give lower temps than just CPU application alone) helps mitigate some of the battery effect and gives great longevity.

The second is the main problem:
Pressure when clamping the heatsink down.

On direct die, ANY variance in LM thickness can cause a several degree variance in temps, and uneven pressure, that is, having more pressure on one part of the core when applying initial pressure (even if you do partial turns and criss crosses on the screws) than another, can cause one core to be 3 or 4C higher than all the other cores, when a more careful pushing down would reduce this to 0C-1C. That's because LM is attracted to *ITSELF*, so uneven pressure right away can cause LM to shift away from part of the silicon. To avoid this, you need to first make sure the entire LM'd CPU surface has the exact same amount and thickness of LM, and then you apply full, completely even downwards pressure across the entire heatsink, when trying to get the screws to latch into the holes. This part--getting the screws to latch, if you are not careful, can create instant imbalance as you have to fight to get the first screw down, and this initial attempt can cause a core temp differential.

It's actually possible to have one core 4C higher than all the others right away, then when you remove the heatsink and look, you actually see that the LM, around that hot core, is almost pushed away from it.

The IHS for LGA mountings helps mitigate this somewhat by diffusing the heat more and spreading it to a larger area, as well as lack of oxidation effect on the LM (if only used between CPU and IHS), but this can also help de/relids as well.

Now I know ALL of you are going to hate me for what I am going to say now, but the BEST WAY to test for full and complete proper LM application and heatsink balance is PRIME95, with AVX disabled.
Prime95 with AVX disabled is only slightly more cpu intensive (small FFT) than Cinebench R15; Der8aeur tested this at 4-6% more, that is, prime95 @ 100% as baseline, Cinebench is 94%. That insures a fully consistent and balanced CPU load test. Also, problems with the LM application being unevenly spread can become apparent after 15 minutes of prime95 load testing between 80C to 88C.

You guys can take it or leave it.

 

Thanks @Falkentyne - I ran Prime95 64-bit with Small FFTs for 15 minutes and here are my results. I could not find a setting to disable AVX - or does running the Small FFTs option take care of that?

I am running the "Auto" fan profile I am wondering if HIDEvolution ran theirs under "Cooler Boost" and did not disclose it?