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Unlock the hidden power settings and untick sst (speed shift) in TS if you want to let the win power plan in control (you can edit the settings in the power plan to change the CPU behavior).

If you want to fully manage the power settings with TS speed shift epp values, disable "processor performance autonomous mode" (after you unlock the hidden settings) and test again if TS speed shift works properly.

 

i unlocked all the hidden power settings using following this guide http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...e-on-windows-enabling-deeper-c-states.815602/

I still couldn't find the Performance Autonomous setting after looking for it both in powercfg and Windows power option.

edit: maybe this is the case fo my system "Platforms that support CPPC version 2 may only support autonomous disabled or autonomous enabled mode. If only one mode is supported, the OS uses that mode and ignores the PerfAutonomousMode power setting" - quoted from Microsoft page

 

Go into BIOS and check if speed shift is enabled.

 

Yes, Speedshift is enabled in BIOS. @raz8020

 

Then I'm currently out of ideas. You can also check this post (but if you already enabled all the hidden settings, autonomous should be present):

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/dell-xps-speed-shift.796891/#post-10361703

 

@Le Quan
Could it be because of too much undervolting?

 

Can you check if Speedshift works on your laptop when using battery? Also why undervolting can cause the problem? On my laptop windows uses its own value for EPP depending on power setting, TS cannot overdrive it.

 

How do you want me to test... now i am unplugged.

at epp = 0, it idles > 4ghz

 

That means it's working for you.

 

Can you find the Performance Autonomous in Advanced Power Setting in Windows? @sush33king You may have to unlock hidden setting first using this Regedit file https://gist.github.com/Nt-gm79sp/1f8ea2c2869b988e88b4fbc183731693.
Also can you check in BIOS if speedstep and Speedshift is enable.

 

ok... hang on.

 

Only speedshift, speedstep should be disabled.

 

speed step = enabled, speed shift = disabled in BIOS.

 

Yeah, I disabled Speedstep, just asked again to make sure

 

My windows version just in case.....

 

I did not change any speed step and speed shift settings in BIOS. Mine are the default values.

 

So if Speedshift is disabled in BIOS then TS can take control over? Interesting, let me test it.

 

Nope, it doesn't work for me @sush33king @raz8020

 

It is possible that while speedstep is used in BIOS, there isn't any conflict between TS and win anymore. In TS if you have speedstep and speedshift ticked, speedstep is ignored.

Did you try to check with powercfg -qh >C:\report.txt ?
You can try the steps from the post I linked and see if they make a difference:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/dell-xps-speed-shift.796891/#post-10361703

 

1. did you try disabling undervolt settings and see if it still downclocks?
2. remove all background apps, processor idle state 0 to 1 percent (use resource monitor to check)

 

@Le Quan

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...cussions-lounge.815216/page-166#post-10769831

EDIT:
The script from the guide you used, doesn't seem to have (or I missed it) the reg address for the autonomous mode.

 

@Le Quan

can you show for me the CPU and GPU temp when gaming with your laptop? I'm thinking about buying the 1070 version but I still wonder that can this laptop handle the cooling. Searched some information but I only can found the temp and CPU clock of the 1060 and 1050ti version.

 

Thanks for all the help, I'll try it when I'm back from my vacation.

 

I'm on vacation so can't test anything yet. However, Tbh I don't play many AAA titles (only playing GTA 5 and Civ 6 right now). From what I've xperience so far, both CPU and GPU run pretty cool, CPU below 75C and GPU below 70C during games. For reference, during combined load of Aida64, CPU holds 3.6GHz, temps is limited @89C while GPU max 72C, with +200/+600 OC, all after 1hr stress test. Results is with Undervolting and unlock power limited in BIOS, I suspect you can further improve temps by repasting and changing thermal pads.

 

Has anyone tried dual booting linux on gp63
I have tried Ubuntu, then the errors came.
I have reduced them to just a single one by using acpi=off and nouveau.modeset=0
But still I'm not able to get through to start the installation.

 

Hey, first post here! I have a GP63 8RD, and was able to boot a liveUSB of Ubuntu Mate 18.04 when I was testing it without any boot cheats at all, though my installed version is a version of the Debian Stretch derivative MX 17.1 (requires a newer Mesa from stretch-backports for full video support and firmware-iwlwifi 20180518 for the wi-fi to work.) But Ubuntu 18.04 has those already...did you use Rufus with GPT support to create your USB?

I do a lot of package builds for MX, including heavy builds such as kernels and web browsers, so was interested in getting it running as fast as possible on all cores. I was getting 3.6 GHz at 100% usage on builds with iuvolt, got it up to the 3.9 max with the IMAP slope mods on page 5 here, but decided that was going to be too noisy if I had to run Cooler Boost for those, or maybe too hot if I forgot to enable iuvolt, so backed off...3.6 is pretty good already, stays under 85C, and the automatic fan is quiet enough. At one point I had the Nvidia card switching with Bumblebee working, but something broke it, so for now I'm restricted to the Intel iGPU.

Edit: Some info from inxi:

System: Host: mxmsileopard Kernel: 4.17.0-1-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3
Distro: MX-17.1_x64 Horizon March 14, 2018
Machine: Type: Laptop System: Micro-Star product: GP63 Leopard 8RD v: REV:1.0 serial: <root required>
Mobo: Micro-Star model: MS-16P6 v: REV:1.0 serial: <root required> UEFI: American Megatrends
v: E16P6IMS.105 date: 05/08/2018
CPU: Topology: 6-Core model: Intel Core i7-8750H bits: 64 type: MT MCP L2 cache: 9216 KiB
Speed: 1113 MHz min/max: 800/4100 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1113 2: 815 3: 1434 4: 1488 5: 1022
6: 1315 7: 1506 8: 1147 9: 1009 10: 1335 11: 1147 12: 1278
Graphics: Card-1: Intel driver: i915 v: kernel
Card-2: NVIDIA GP107M [GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Mobile] driver: N/A
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: intel resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel UHD Graphics 630 (Coffeelake 3x8 GT2) v: 4.5 Mesa 18.1.3
Audio: Card-1: Intel Cannon Lake PCH cAVS driver: snd_hda_intel
Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.17.0-1-amd64
Network: Card-1: Intel Wireless-AC 9560 [Jefferson Peak] driver: iwlwifi
IF: wlan0 state: up
Card-2: Qualcomm Atheros Killer E2400 Gigabit Ethernet driver: alx
IF: eth0 state: down

 

@Le Quan
@raz8020

I manage to recreate the freq drop at epp=0 problem. It has never happen to me before, but upon disabling speed step in the BIOS, freq drops occur when epp = 0. Regardless of me pulling out the AC plug or not, freq drops occur.

I turned the speed step on and off 3x in the BIOS to be sure and they return the expected results consistently.

On my laptop, when speed step is disabled in BIOS, frequency drops occur.

Attached is a screenshot of my TS settings during the test.

View attachment 162081

EDIT: Do a cold boot after changing settings in BIOS. Not soft boot.
Speed Shift = Turned On, Speed Step = Off in BIOS, freq drop occurs, especially after pulling plug off @ epp = 0
Speed Shift = Turned Off, Speed Step = On (This is BIOS default settings) , Frequency stays max @ EPP = 0 at all times.
Power Mode = Balanced, Slider in middle. No fine tuning done.
Dragon Center = Turbo Mode.

EDIT2: The previous screen shot does not show the freq drop, nonetheless, that was the settings during my testing. Heres another pic of the freq drop in action

 

Looking to buy the GP63 i7-8750h GTX 1060 6gb in the next couple of weeks, would you recommend it?
Seems like it's necessary to adjust bios etc to achieve low or acceptable temperatures? Has anybody had experience of temps being fine without adjustment.
Also how hard/easy is it to adjust what has to be adjusted to achieve lower temps?

 

@Pat_D
Without undervolting it can reach 90+C playing Far cry 5 at ultra settings, at least on my laptop. I have a 8750h with a 1060 - this is the highest temps that any game has hit among all high resource requirement games i've tested.

Messing with the bios will unlock limiting of processor speed that will increase temps. No messing BIOS = lower temps, lower max speed

If you do optimize it sufficiently via undervolting, you can see the results reading all the posts in this forum topic. So far, everyone is happy. No serious complaints so far.

I don't regret getting this laptop... i am happy, but if I am unlucky and am unable to undervolt adequately to reduce temps to my liking, i would be not too happy, but it is acceptable if not good comparing to what other 8750h's temps are hitting at stock/default settings.

"Also how hard/easy is it to adjust what has to be adjusted to achieve lower temps?":
Read this, take note that lower volts = lower temps relative to CPU frequency.
https://linustechtips.com/main/topi...benching-450cb/?tab=comments#comment-11474676

 

Thanks will be sure to read, sounds like this laptop has good heat management after all

 

So far... its all been pretty much good news... build quality may be an issue if you are concerned and picky about outside feel and appearance - palmrest is made of plastic made to look like brushed aluminium. However, top cover is made of aluminium and looks and feels great.

 

Have watched both these videos already haha
Read people were nitpicking the build quality but as long as it's sturdy enough to last a good 3-4 years that's solid

 

If I had another choice, I'd go for this https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GE63-7RD-Raider.html (Ignore this)

In other words,I love whats inside this laptop... and would go the extra mile to just brush up on the build, then, i'd stick to it for years to come.

Of course, a 1070 GPU attached to it would be awesome as well....

edit: sry this one https://www.msi.com/blog/Over-Performance-Boost-of-Intel-Core-i7-8750H-on-MSI-GE63-Raider-RGB-NB

(Silly but it sticks!)

 

This does look nice seemingly an upgrade from the GP63 itd cost me £1500 for the 1060 version don't really know whether this is worth it over £1150 I could get for the GP63 (1060)seems to just mainly be rgb enhancements

 

Has anyone had any luck finding an .ICC profile for the 120 Hz panel?

 

https://www.notebookcheck.net/uploads/tx_nbc2/N156HHE_GA1.icm
https://www.notebookcheck.net/uploads/tx_nbc2/GE63VR.icm

Try these from Notebookcheck. The first one is the GP63, the second is the GE63, both has same panel from Chimei.

 

Anybody able to report any info/ benchmarks on how the battery life holds out when not gaming (just browsing the internet or using applications such as microsoft word etc). If possible with comparisons to when gaming how long it usually lasts.

 

I've been getting a little over three hours with just browsing and watch some online videos in both Windows and Linux--though in Linux I lock it down to 800 MHz max if I'm really trying to get the most time from the battery.

 

I've been mucking around with the GPU recently... and i've encountered GPU Power Limit...

Testing Far Cry 5 @ Ultra Settings
and GPU OverClock (RAM 200 Mhz and GPU 150 Mhz)
and ThrottleStop.SST.EPP = 110
and ThrottleStop.Core&Cache=-143.6mv
and ambient temp = 23-25C and cooler boost = on
and dual monitor = on
and BIOS PowerLimit Unlocked (IMON Settings)




How do I increase the power delivery so as to solve this power limit issue... if it is an issue to begin with??


SYSTEM:
MSI GP63 8750h
GTX 1060
dual channel 8x2 (2666mhz)
SATA3 M.2 SSD 256 GB
1TB 7200 HDD
Power Brick 180W

 

You would need to do a bios vmod or a shunt mod.
Shunt mods are unheard of on MXM cards. Lack of proper schematics doesn't help. The only person on this forum who would be capable of this without starting a house fire is @Khenglish

Vmods are not possible because the 6 core version of the vbioses are not supported by the out of date Pascal editor. It may be possible, with some coding knowledge, to manually input the right TDP values and checksums and extreme power limit settings directly into the vbios with a hex editor at the new proper locations, but that would not be something you would know how to do without having done your own research on this subject. Any such mod, even if you knew how to do it without causing a black screen, would still require a HW programmer and 1.8v adapter and a Pomona 5250 clip (with the proper attachment male to female jumper cables).

 

I need some time to think... didn't expect this... ... gonna have some beers... or rather some more.... I wuz thinking along the lines of undervolting to make it more efficient so as to shift the power consumption curve below the assigned limit constant.... i really dun know what i'm talking about... just guessing... I am learning alot btw.. THX!!!!

 

Anyone got any advice on what to change (settings/bloatware/bios etc) right from the start with this laptop or is it more a case of dealing with issues as they arise

 

First thing you should do is create a windows 10 usb stick and reinstall W10 from that.
Swoosh completely clean W10. a lot better than manually trying to remove all the crap all manufacturers install ;-)

 

Just a quick query, just got my laptop and started charging it and the battery LED showed red. I unplugged it after about an hour and plugged it back in later to keep charging but there was no LED showing anymore is this normal or should there always be an LED when charging ??

 

The LED turns off when the battery is fully charged.

 

Hi there, I purchased my msi gp63 8RE a couple of weeks ago and I want to share my experience with ppl here. There will be a tl;dr at the end.

1 week after buying my laptop, I noticed that my computer was under performing. I maxed out the settings for DOTA and CS:GO in 1080p, and it failed to hit 60fps on numerous occasions. Sure, I'm browsing Facebook occasionally (I was playing arcade at the time), but that seemed weird to me; both games aren't graphically intensive for today's standards. Then the stuttering started taking place. Every few minutes, the game froze and returned to normal. After a day or two, even voice chats and YouTube would stutter or cause the computer to freeze. I had gotten a defective laptop, no big deal. I can just exchange for a brand new one.

So I easily exchange it, the ppl at Memory Express were great, and the trade took less than 15 minutes. So I get home, then set up my computer. I forgot to plug in my mouse because I was having so much fun using voice commands with Cortana (I'm dumb, sorry). That's when I found out both USB ports of the right side didn't work. Maybe it was my mouse I thought, because it's 4 years old and I had dropped it a few times. So I tried plugging a ton of USB devices into all the ports. Everything worked on the left. Nothing worked on the right. So now I'm pissed because I just wasted so much time on both faulty laptops.

I'm going in to exchange it a third time for the same model. But is that a good idea? It seems like this laptop was not made to last, but no one here seems to have problems with it. Maybe I'm just hella unlucky. Thoughts?


tl;dr

First computer was faulty, got an exchange. Second computer was also faulty. Is anyone else having issues??

 

Anybody had any luck with reducing temps are others levelling around 45-50°C on the CPU when no programmes are running ?

 

Just for preference has anybody got any benchmark fps test results for these games with this system:
CS:GO
Fortnite
GTA V
Skyrim
Borderlands
Minecraft

System version: gp63 leopard 8re
Gtx 1060 6gb
i7-8750h
16GB ddr4 ram
128gb ssd
1tb hdd
(For example csgo on lowest settings runs at 120fps for me this seems low? cant find what could be capping it though or is this laptop really just not that powerful since my desktop with the gtx 1060 runs csgo at around 500-600 fps?)

 

Could it be the refresh rate (120hz) and vsync?

 

@Pat_D

GTA 5 Screen Shot

1.Undervolted using MSI AfterBurner custom curve

2.overclocked memory 450mhz

3.Default Settings with VSYNC off.

How do you benchmark?