I turned v sync off so that shouldn't be the problem the screen is 120hz but why would this limit the fps? Have tried setting to High performance power plan and using performance mode in dragon center can't find any reason why it won't go above it? Anybody can confirm you get higher than 120fps in csgo?, such a frustrating issue as it seems software related so can't really pin point it.
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I was literally just running games for the first time to see how everything runs (bcs I have pretty bad luck it seems with faulty pcs and laptops) and noticed I couldn't get above 120 FPS.
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GTA performs well without GPU undervolting too. Easily hits 170 fps (GTA graphics default settings)
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Just tried fortnite... it really depends on where i am in the map... fps ranges 70s - 100+
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Hi Marco , what was the outcome for you I just got my GP63 8RD (1050Ti version) last Fri from Memory Express and I am having issues with the USB ports on the RH side tooMarco Chin likes this. -
as far as the undervolt goes did you do the bios mod on page 5? (post no# 44 )
this might help too:
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Anyone got Cinebench stats to compare with: I ran CPU got 1194cb max temps reaching 91 degrees with laptop on a cooling pad (undervolted cpu -125mv) Any suggestions to improve this score?
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p/s: the only way to remove power limit problem is to change the settting in BIOS (mentioned above). Personally I got 1250+ with unlocked bios. However, you only benefit from this if you frequently use CPU intensive software (rendering, stimulation, etc.), otherwise it shouldn't be any difference in games. -
Leopard 8750h Gtx1060 is no 1 in its class.... be proud, owners...!!!
3D Mark Portal - Top out of 2579 benchmark results as of September 4 2018.
Click here to see results in 3D Mark Website Portal , 1st and 2nd are GP63 8REs, they are the same laptop.
Came in first in Time Spy too... https://www.3dmark.com/search#/?mode=advanced&url=/proxycon/ajax/search2/cpugpu/spy/P/2321/1106/500000?minScore=0&cpuName=Intel Core i7-8750H Processor&gpuName=NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 (Notebook)&gpuCount=0
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You gotta optimize pat... this laptop has the potential.. stock settings are very conservative to limit trouble for manufacturers... I believe from my experience that MSI laptops have great quality hardware, but in every thousand laptops... there are bound to be bad eggs, this holds true for all laptop brands.
You have all the resources to optimize it.... i am certain you can cinebench > 1260... easy... keep trying and don't give up.
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Did you have the GP63 8RD-048 as well? I was thinking I would ask for another model , so I am wonder which models you had?
which strix do you have now? perhaps that is an Option for me too
I thought it was strange a gaming laptop came without a gamewhat did you get , perhaps I will ask for that too
. The Loot Box is supposed to come with each GP or GE Series Laptop, it is a MSI promotion till Sept.30 , I actually rang on Friday to ask why it was not in the box with the Laptop and was told it would be sent out this week. I guess you got lucky since you have a Strix now...maybe they have a Promo too
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1. Undervolt (you're doing it now)
2. Address power limit (via unlocked bios mode - "LAlt-RCtrl-Rshift-F2" in BIOS main screen, and implement the IMON trick)... awesome hack for video editing that requires sustained high load processing or similar... but not much diff/necessary for gaming) - This is the hack that will push your contiguous cinebench scores above 1260.
3. Overclock ram to 2666mhz if you have the itch for it and find it necessary provided your RAM is clocked @ 2400mhz and can tolerate 2666mhz
4. Use both RAM slots, enabling dual channel ram configuration.
5. Overclock GPU (This is where cooler boost 5 shines... its cooling capability for the GPU is the best!!!! Max 71-72 C...in AC room. No other similar class laptops that i know of can beat this.. thats why in 3D FireMark 1.1 bench results, 9 out of 10 laptops are MSI ( Proof, for now at least.)
6. Configure Raid-0 and double (minimum read speed expectations) your laptops communication speed with its storage or get another SSD which supports NVME.Last edited: Sep 4, 2018 -
which Model do you have ? looks like I need to exchange Mine unfortunately.
Thanks for the info in the Thread too , been useful for me and can now CB at 1240-1250 best score 1262 so far but no prolonged testing yet.Last edited: Sep 4, 2018 -
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This is pretty much what I did Pat , just following this thread and one at Linus for the ThrottleStop Settings , -.150 is working fine for me and am average 1220-1240 with 1262 my best in CB . I couldn't do that till I did the RAM and IMON settings in the Bios though before that I was at 1194 IIRC.
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@Pat_D You should focus on the first 3 points first, and by default laptop should come with dual channel RAM config already. Optimizing GPU can take more time than CPU undervolting (basically with GPU you do try and error at every point voltage point, and limit max voltage input). Your goal should be at least 1250+ cb after unlocking power limit and undervolting (and clock your ram to 2666 if it's not already). Suss33king got 1280+ cb iirc, what a godLast edited: Sep 4, 2018raz8020 and sush33king like this. -
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The <smart> MSI software engineers has crippled the firmware for GS65 even worse than this. The trip point is low as 90°C. Almost on level with older AsusBooks. Not be too surprised if they put the same for GP63 as well.
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Hi everyone,
I've bought the GP63 and added a 970 Evo NVMe 250GB SSD into it. The boot time is about 13-14sec counting from pressing the switch-on to desktop being loaded.
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I do have a boot selector on my GT73VR - it takes 10+ seconds to get there. Then just a couple of seconds to open the screen.
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Why You Might Want to should Disable Fast Startup
Sounds awesome, right? Well, it is. But Fast Startup also has its problems, so you should take the following caveats into consideration before enabling it:
- When Fast Startup is enabled, your computer doesn’t perform a regular shut down. Since applying new system updates often requires a shutdown, you may not be able to apply updates and turn your computer off. Restart is unaffected, though, so it still performs a full cold shutdown and restart of your system. If a shutdown doesn’t apply your updates, a restart still will.
- Fast Startup can interfere slightly with encrypted disk images. Users of encryption programs like TrueCrypt have reported that encrypted drives they had mounted before shutting down their system were automatically remounted when starting back up. The solution for this is just to manually dismount your encrypted drives before shutting down, but it is something to be aware of. (This doesn’t affect the full disk encryption feature of TrueCrypt, just disk images. And BitLocker users shouldn’t be affected.)
- Systems that don’t support hibernation won’t support Fast Startup either. Some devices just don’t play well with hibernation. You’ll have to experiment with it to see whether your devices respond well or not.
- When you shut down a computer with Fast Startup enabled, Windows locks down the Windows hard disk. You won’t be able to access it from other operating systems if you have your computer configured to dual-boot. Even worse, if you boot into another OS and then access or change anything on the hard disk (or partition) that the hibernating Windows installation uses, it can cause corruption. If you’re dual booting, it’s best not to use Fast Startup or Hibernation at all.
- Depending on your system, you may not be able to access BIOS/UEFI settings when you shut down a computer with Fast Startup enabled. When a computer hibernates, it does not enter a fully powered down mode. Some versions of BIOS/UEFI work with a system in hibernation and some do not. If yours doesn’t, you can always restart the computer to access BIOS, since the restart cycle will still perform a full shutdown.
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Fast Boot is to minimize startup time by skipping USB initialization, exclude all boot devices except the primary one, disable boot prompt, and among other things. How many seconds does it take for your system to get to desktop screen from power-on on average?
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I noticed that starting from pressing powe-on:
0~4s : black screen
4s~8s : MSI logo
8s~13s : black screen and windows, and finally desktop
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Here are some tips to decrease your Last BIOS Time.
- You can stop your PC from showing a logo during bootup. However, it may only save 0.2-0.3 seconds.
- Adjusting the boot order is another method to decrease the Last BIOS Time. If your PC checks for 4-5 seconds to boot from a network device, you need to disable network boot from the UEFI firmware settings.
- If your Windows PC performs a memory test–or some other test–at each boot, you can disable it to decrease your Last BIOS Time.
- You also have the option to disable PS/2 port if you only use USB devices.
- Just in case you are using very old and outdated hardware/operating system, upgrading it is the only option to achieve a fast bootup time.
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Temps decreased by about 5-10 degrees so far some games by 20 degrees
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