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Check owner's launge or last generation reviews of both laptops (in case of GE series check out GE63/73), you should find info there, I have a GP63 w GTX1070 and I get about 3-4hrs unplugged (which should be what to be expected from the GE75 I guess)

 

That's pretty decent for a gaming laptop.

 

I have a separate throttle stop profile while unplugged + it's mostly docs/spreadsheet and light web browsing while I'm on the go, with low display brightness

 

Damn, your laptop completely destroys those 2080 maxQ, 10600 vs ~7600 graphic score

 

For some reason, I cannot get my CPU to get more than 6100 CPU score, no matter the voltage I set.

 

Your cpu score is quite a bit higher than mine.

With my 2070 I got 7103 with a graphics score of 7537 In Time Spy (https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/33124495?)

16 583 IN Fire Strike (V1.1) Graphics score 19 961​

 

Max, I deleted throttlestop and tried XTU for undervolt since it seems easier but idk. I re downloaded throttlestop applied the settings in bobofalltrades video but I get a blue screen with .125 cache and .125 core.....dropped them both to .100 idk if thats where I should be or what. Throttlestop is confusing.

Well now I can't even test, BFV is making me download the remaining 20gb before I can launch the game for some reason. Was able to play single player before. At 500kb/sec its gonna be a while. Damn work camp wifi lol.

Also I'm not sure what youtube review your referring too because I have not seen any with a 2080 play bfv.

 

I was referring to a review of GE75 w RTX 2070, ik it's not a accurate comparison but it's better than nothing.

 

Well BFV is done in about 12hrs and I get off work around then too so I'll report back. Just trying to figure out what a good undervolt in Throttlestop would be. -100 on cache and core be an ok place to start I think?

 

So, silly me. I didn't have the "Turn on" button actually turned on this entire time on ThrottleStop lol....

 

It was stated as such on nvidia's website. Maybe the ones that go above 150w are only put into the biggest of gaming machines like the GT75 Titan

 

No power limit throttling and only 1240cb? Usually at constant 3.9ghz boost i7 8750 gets 1260-1270cb.

Also, getting a 8750 to run at sustained 3.9ghz without power throttle is damn fortunate (assume you dont touch the bios yet)

 

Havn’t been in the BIOS yet. Can you even do anything positive in it?

 

Is the ram setup in dual channel?

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Access to advanced bios mainly is to increase the power limit and allow CPU to maintain max boost clock, which might be useful in CPU intensive applications and benchmarking, given the laptop has good cooling solution to support it. But your laptop already maintains max clock, and if your main focus is gaming then it wouldn't matter at all (the i7 almost never run at full load in games anyways). You can do lots of other things in the bios as well but you gotta know what exactly you're doing.

 

I would assume so since it came from HID.

EDIT** Checked CPUZ and it shows dual, so yes.

 

Check if ram is running in dual channel @ 2666mhz. If it's not you can go to bios and change it (left Alt, right Ctrl, right Shift + F2 to access to hidden bios settings if you don't have it in your bios)

 

I checked CPUZ and it does show dual channel.

Any idea why my undervolt seems to not go as low as I’ve seen in other videos. In Ownordisown’s video he had -140 easily on cache and core but I can’t even hold -90 on both. -80 seems to be my sweet spot but I am yet to test it while gaming.

 

Don't sweat about the undervolt values, your CPU manages to run at max boost without power throttle is already amazing, plus the temps are great.

 

In reading the power limit of the cpu helps with minimum framerates and overall gameplay smoothness as a more stable clock can be achieved.

 

Any guides to upping it on a msi laptop?

 

Amazing for benchmarking sure however I did see 80’s while gaming which isn’t bad but lowers always better.

BFV should be done downloading when I get off work so I’ll be able to test more.

 

Create a 'gaming profile's in throttle stop, cap the CPU clock around 3.6-3.7 instead of full on 3.9ghz. Maybe you can get better temps then, without any noticeable frame drop.

 

Alright I’ll try both and report back. So I would just change the turbo ratio limit to 3.6 or 3.7 in TS?

 

Change turbo ratio for 1-6 active core in that section, maybe 3.5-3.6 for 6 core and gradually increase to 3.8 for 1/2 core. You might apply larger undervolt now with this setting profile

 

The easiest way would be to use Intel XTU or Throttlestop and raise the turbo boost tdp limit.

 

The value of turbo boost time (where tdp exceed 45w) is fixed in bios anyways.

 

Yes, the turbo boost time is fixed at 28 seconds. However, what I'm saying is that you can raise the 45w limit where the turbo boost timer is triggered to say 80w. That way, the value of the turbo boost time will be irrelevant as the tdp will not hit the increased tdp limit.

 

I was set on the GS75 but now I think I am going to Microcenter today to pickup the GE75. I think I can live with the extra .7 pounds to get the full 2080 gpu. Microcenter comes with 32gig of ram for 2750 which is cheaper than amazon. I hope they have it out on display so I can see the build quality first. If I buy it will be sure to post impressions tomorrow

 

Its a beast!

 

Hmm, I'm getting an error when trying to install the NVIDIA 418.81 update. I downloaded the correct file but it still says not compatible. Used DDU to wipe the previous drivers.

I'm on Windows 10 Pro 1809

"This NVIDIA graphics driver is not compatible with this version of Windows"

418.81-notebook-win10-64bit-international-whql

 

Don't trust notebookcheck that much. They are okay for general info but they don't often get the numbers users get. They have the GTX1080 as a 20k graphics firestrike score, while mine scores 24k, and all the stock RTX2080s I saw scored between 25 and 26k without OC, so naturally a tweaked 2080 should reach 28 easily.

 

the GE is also slim. It's just different focus for the design. The GS series first priority is slim, then performance. For the GE its performance, then slim. It's very much a slim full power gaming laptop.

For the GT its always performance, then more performance hahaha.

 

Whenever a new machine comes out and uses an nvidia GPU, there is always weird errors with new drivers. It gets sorted out in a bout a month. Don't sweat it.

 

I downloaded GeForce Experience and its downloading an update now to 418.81, lets see if it works. If not ill just re download the gpu drivers off MSI's website for now.

 

Oh man, I hate Geforce Experience hahaha. Good luck and let us know if that helped otherwise yeah I would advise using MSI drivers for the time being. Trust me, I have lived this same issue since 2012.

 

Indeed, pretty damn slim IMO.

 

I do to but its worth a shot, not like I use any of the suggested game settings or anything lol.

 

Waiting for my GE75 RTX2070 tomorrow

As I understand, it has one module 16GB RAM which is disappoints me, so need to buy one more.

Maybe you can advise first steps after buying? Now my list has only one item:

1. Undervolt CPU.

 

Bask in all its glory

 

So GeForce Experience worked, it got me on driver 418.81 however the NVIDA Control Panel went MIA. Going back to 417.22 for now.

 

When I get a new machine, I first tweak CPU and GPU and check for temperatures under load and benchmarks. I also uninstall all the software I won't use, so check if you need anything, remove free software that you dont need same for any trials etc. With my GT73 I pretty much only use MSI True colors for the screen, and steel series keyboard software (and the mandatory SCM system control manager for all the FN keys etc). I get rid of everything else.

Then you have to tweak windows to remove all the software you don't care nor use. Same with personalized features, and all the invasion of privacy settings that exists in windows hahaha.

I alwayws keep HWmonitor, MSI Afterburner and either Throttlestop or intel XTU though these last two I only ever use these for some tests and after I remove then.

Now go game!

Thanks for testing. It happens. since the GS75 is still ways to go, perhaps a new driver will be available then.

 

Cant get the damn NIVIDA control panel back even on 417.22 lol....

My 2080 isn’t showing up in MSI Afterburner anymore either, god damn why did I try to upgrade the 418.81 now in screwed.

-No nivida control panel
-GPU not showing up in MSI Afterburner
-GPU is listed correctly in device manager

Idk what to do

 

You don't keep yours permanently undervolted?

I have mine at -135mv and temps after playing 3 or 4 battles in warplanes goes to 79C max. Ordered some Kryonaut and will apply once it's in.

 

Hmmm, not exactly but yes. I like more "permanent" solutions so once I have figured the voltage I need, I put it on BIOS.

If a BIOS set is not available, I do leave it undervolted via throttlestop running in the background.

 

My NVIDIA control panel is gone on 417.22 also...tried the 417.22 drivers from MSI’s website also same issue. Any idea’s?

 

Are you using DDU to fully uninstall the drivers?

 

Yes, in safe mode.

 

Hmmm, reinstall, and then without using DDU, reinstall again. If it still doesn't show up, I don't know what could be happening. It's hard to test because I don't have a new machine either to try and help you.

 

I posted on NVIDIA forums and someone replied with a link to download it. IT WORKED! woohoooo lol

Now to upgrade to 418.81

https://www.microsoft.com/store/productId/9nf8h0h7wmlt