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    *** The Official GE76 RAIDER Owners and Discussion Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by HaloGod2012, Feb 21, 2021.

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    Did you mod any BIOS settings or flash the newest FW update for the card? Have you applied liquid metal to CPU/GPU that would cause a short? I'm not saying you did anything wrong, that's just not usually the type of defect that would pass QC before shipping.

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    Yes it has latest firmware. No i did not ever touch the heatsink. I took pictures and video to prove it too. It was not doing it when it was new. It doesnt even do it benchmarking only when playing demanding games. It may have something to do with whatever controls boost clocks when cpu and gpu are at full loads.
     
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    Interesting. I hope your RMA process goes smooth, you certainly didn't have it for long. Who did you order it through?

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    Newegg Canada. Ya its only a few months old
     
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    If you look at the 20 to 30 second mark on the video you will see it spike. At the end around 11:46 mark it spikes over 200w. It seems stable during actual play just during intermission it will spike. I have a desktop 3060ti with same core chip and it never does that.
     
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    Interesting... side note: you need to slide cancel and move way more to keep the server data stale ;) harder to hit.
     
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    I would like some lessons.
     
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    COD is retarded an penalizes PC players. So many times unfair things happen. Today I threw a grenade that landed a few inches from an enemys claymore and it didnt set off the claymore but did major damage to me and then the claymore went off and i died. The RPG7 is now useless for me as unless i get a direct hit on an enemy they never die any more. Plus the time to switch and pull the trigger is absolutely insane long. I can be fireire my machinegun and switcxh to rocket without moving and it does no damage to enemy. If I am too close I will die though. I am going to ry a new mouse because when I zoom in on distant enemy using combat optic If I moce my mouse a smidge it puts the reticule an inch away. If I slow down the mouse speed then I can turn during regular play. Every time they update the nerf a gun I finally start getting kills with. I try moving a lot like u suggest and it doesnt help at all. By the time I aquire the enemy I am already dead. I am not terrible aim but it seems like that console aim assist is too powerful.
     
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    For sure. I switch between controller and m/kb depending on style of play i feel like doing (sniping long range vs close quarters cracked)
     
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    I have video I recorded today showing how far off where the aim point is compared to where i have to aim to make a kill. Thats absolute insanity. Who can play like that? WTF am I supposed to guess where I am supposed to shoot? This game is so infuriating I think I am going to have to quit. I am getting so frustrated I am smashing my mouse and pounding my fist on my desk out of frustration. So many terrible things happening like I throw a stun grenade and it bounces off a the corner of a building right back at me so I am 100% stunned and I get killed. WTF but my rockets hitting right at the feet of enemy do didly squat., Its just outrageous stupid.,
     
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    Well thats it i smashed a perfectly good mouse today so i uninstalled the game for good. On to new adventures. The latency in some matches was parhetic. I pull the trigger and my gun never fires. Not sure if i am being punished or what but i am officially done. Fack you COD.
     
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    Does anyone have an issue when you connect to an external monitor via HDMI? Every game and even chrome stutters like crazy. I'm getting 200 FPS in MW but it feels and looks like it's 20 fps. I'm using discrete graphics mode and tried with the laptop screen off as well. Drivers and BIOS all up to date.

    When unplugging the external monitor everything is fine.

    EDIT: scratch that about the FPS. in RDR2 the fps tanks to 20-25 fps on extenal monitor while i get 80 fps on the laptop monitor. what's going on? does anyone else use an external monitor on their ge76 and have this problem?
     
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    I have used 2 seperate monitors both connected via mini display port to display port on monitor with zero issues on either monitor.
     
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    Have you tried with HDMI? I'll have to give mini display port to HDMI a shot then. I have the exact same laptop as you with the 240hz sharp panel
     
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    Can you use a USB C to HDMI? I think you have to have the Intel GPU turned on to use the USB C port though. Not that it makes a huge difference for basic gaming.
     
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    Screenshot_20211022-181154_Chrome.jpg What you guys make of this? They received the laptop Monday afternoon and the first i heard anything this morning because i was starting to panik if they actually received it, i log in to the rma site and they just accepted it. Now a few hours later uts shipped out again?
     
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    Oooops.
     
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    Maybe they shipped a new one instead? Also I don't remember your original post but I wouldn't trust watching a GPU watt rating while playing a game. Have you used other software to actually confirm those results?

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    I'm connected to a monitor via HDMI and discrete graphics and have never seen that issue.

    Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk
     
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    I have a desktop 3060ti same gpu chip as 3070 laptop and it rock stable as far as power draw. I try aftrrburner, gpu z and hw monitor and everything saw the spikes. Something was awray on the laptop.
     
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    most likely just replaced it with a new one
     
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    A Dragon Edition with 11990k and 180w 3080 maybe because thats all they had? My luck they just put it back in the box with no problem found.
     
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    i skimped on the dragon edition , looked like **** honestly. got the normal i9 one with the 3080 :)
     
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    Trade you for the mystery box when I get it? lol
     
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    found the culprit and it's windows 10 automatically updating the chipset drivers. rolled back to the one on MSI's website and everything is fine. I already went into regedit and disabled windows driver updates but it keeps updating it. how do you turn off the windows update for drivers? and weird none of you have this issue with windows updating with bad drivers
     
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    I had a Asus laptop with Ryzen and RTX3060 and Windblows would update a driver for the AMD chipset and then Vulcan games would just bllack screen until you did a drtiver reinstallation. Annoying as heck. One reason I dont won that laptop any more.
     
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    They replaced the motherboard which is good. They left a wire off the wifi card and the outside looks like it was sprayed with something but i cant see any scratches yet.
     
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    Well it appears its still doing it. They definatly changed the mobo, whether its new or refurb i dont know. Could this be a symptom of a defective power supply? It hit 180 and 170watt max playing Doom Eternal. It doesnt seem to do it unless its a very demanding game. Benchmarking doesnt do it. It has hit 210 and 190watt before the mobo swap. The maxhine runs great other than this issue
     
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    Don't take this the wrong way, but maybe you should not look at that number and just enjoy the laptop. There may be nothing wrong, it's just a reading and who knows why it shows what it does. Mine never seems to show above around 140w GPU when I do look at it in games yet I have some of the highest benchmark scores around, had #1 slot on several for a while. I think sometimes freq and power readings are so instantaneous that they can read crazy numbers, and one program may show diff numbers than another program. In the past I've seen like 100k watts on a CPU for some reason, I have no idea why but I took a screenshot as it looked really funny but nothing was wrong with the system and I never had any problems with it.

    Just my 2 cents. If temps and performance ware good I would just enjoy the laptop.
     
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    A tech with MSI has the same laptop and he even loaded COD and played for a while and even made a video and his wouldnt go over 140w. We were using the same drivers and i even did a clean install of windows with all msi drivers and mine still did it.
     
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    I adjusted the report rate to .1 second and the high spikes only occur for a single frame and then go back to normal. I dont see anything else odd happening during the events.
     
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    Smoke_Skull At this point i would just run your laptop and enjoy it, i would not worry about.. if I were to guess, I would think it could be one of two things, possibly your power supply brick or just a funky anomaly in the your monitoring software.
     
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    I have a new desktop with 3060ti and its rock stable power draw. It matches what its supposed to be drawing. The scenario is the same as before the new motherboard. It stats of normal power draw and then starts getting higher and higher. It alrady up to close to 200watt on both the board and gpu power draw which just is not right. Nobody else seems to be able to duplicate this so there has to be something going on. I think a different power supply is the easist most logical thingbto test next unless someone else has a suggestion. I try playing Doom 3 and power levels remain normal. Only new demanding games seem to trigger this event. Honestly i spent my career as an auto technician solving weird problems so it just built into me to solve this mystery.
     
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    I found by reducing the polling rate on GPU-Z has calmed it down. Although so far it is only slightly exceeeding the 145W threshold I have seen no more crazy spikes which is a good thing. I just cant believe nobody else is seeing this issue.
     
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    Picked up the GE76 / 11800H / 3070 / 32GB / 1TB / 17" 360Hz, 3ms model off of Costco. Looks awesome for $2k. Likely gonna use it sans battery for gaming in the house and light mining here and there.
     
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    souhds great - waiting for my delivery! And cant wait already lol.
    Let me know please -what is your(our) SSD model? And may be timings for DDR4 RAM from CPU-Z?
     
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    Mine has a Phison SSD. Performs ok. Wish it was an OEM Samsung 980 Pro though. Also can you guys install GPU-Z and monitor the max GPU board and chip power draws please. It only seems to do it during COD Modern Warfare multiplayer and Doom Eternal play with settings max.
     
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    I have been waiting for this specific model to become available and had a Amazon order cancelled at the last minute back in July. Would you mind telling us "exactly" how much you paid (pre-tax) including shipping... if any. The Costco site mentions a $300 manufacturer discount... how did you get the other $300 off to make it $2K. The MSRP and the price advertised on most sites is $2,599. I'm ready to become a Costco member and ordered it right now if I can get it for $2k.
     
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    Is it NVME gen 4 or 3? Write pls full model number.

    ps. seems OEM 980 pro was supplied only for i9 models "VIP stuff"
    but I hope better then for 3060 models Costco with Kinston slowest one without DRAM cache 3Gen.
     
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    yes if membership and then you got price 2k + around 150$ taxes +9.99 shipping even you pick it up in the store (greeeeedy!), so still a beast - the closest others are 200-600$ higher price in bestbuy or etc

    ps. Model GE76 Raider 11UG-468
     
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    Thanks... So it's actually $600 off MSRP right off the bat with a Costco membership... correct? Did Costco also provide you with some doc/info about a free upgrade to Windows 11? I was just looking in the MSI Web site GE76 model comparison page for the differences between the GE76 Raider 11UG-468 and GE76 Raider 11UG-054 (which I didn't get back in July), but I couldn't find any differences. Maybe one comes with some accessories in the box and not the other. Does anyone know what difference... if any or what I missed in the MSI Web site as it relates to difference(s)?
     
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    Windows 11 is a free upgrade that pretty much all computers that have windows 10 and qualifies from a hardware requirements standpoint, including having TPM security chip.
    I wouldn't expect anything other than a power brick and power cord for the brick accessory wise.

    The mfg. Price at Costco is 2299 with a temporary 300 instant rebate. When I saw this came out I felt really good that I got my GE76 with 3060 at the price I paid (1299). I upgraded the ram with 2 16 Gig sticks for 115.00, and got A new SS 980 pro for 150.00 at BB with the sale they were having and a bunch of rewards points I had saved up.
     
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    Screen Shot 2021-11-04 at 8.51.47 PM.png
     
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    I decided to swap exactly this two configs now: RAM sticks link you send are cheaper with slower timings at the same time then standard,
    3060 6Gb->3070 8Gb and faster timing RAM upgrade 16->32GB and better SSD and better screen Color Gamut with faster response = yes less ratio for a buck in comparison 3060 configuration but still worth it for next 5 years.
     
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    I think they did some cheaper configs for now - like in this crazy hard time people will buy anything - so they use the moment - cheaper SSD etc.
     
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    Thanks for the reply... I appreciate it. Any idea if the 11UG-468 comes with a PCIe 4.0 SSD (What brand?) and are the 2 x 16 Gig sticks 3200MHz Dual-channel RAM? Just trying to get as many details before I click Buy Now.
     
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    this is as much as one can gather without physically checking a unit…
    https://storage-asset.msi.com/specSheet/us/nb/GE76 Raider 11UG-468.pdf

    edit: Costco has a 90 day return policy that’s the best in the biz so very little to sweat!
     
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    Thanks everyone... Just pulled the trigger on the Costco membership and on the 11UG-468. Delivery Wed 11/10 for $9.99 the same price for picking it up at their warehouse. Will be coming back to this thread more frequently to compare notes. Hopefully, the delivery of this one won't be cancelled. Waited a little while, but saved $600+. I'm a happy camper. Leaving behind my 11-year old ASUS G73 that died after many updates in the beginning of the summer... RIP
     
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    congrats. Mine arrives today - splurged for overnight since it was only $15 more.
     
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