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Go to previous screen, Power and Performance, CPU-Power Management Control, CPU Lock Configuration, then Disable both options on that screen (CFG Lock & Overclocking Lock)

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Thanks guys. Perfect

 

Quick XTU benchmark jumped by 300 pts from a -0.050v underclock. Stable atm, dunno if I should go more

 

Hey i built a desktop (in a pandemic with gpu shortage i know) i7 11700K Asus z590e mobo 64gb 3200mhz ddr4 and RTX3060Ti robbed from Dell XPS.
Anyways the performance of this is nearly identical to the GE76 Raider with RTX3070. The chip on the 3060 is 104 same as the 3070 but with some goodies crippled. COD does seem smoother playing on the desktop thougg. Will report back if its just fluke.

 

So either the game (cod) is rigged to give console players a latency advantage or i dont know what but it seems some games even with low server latency i get killed from arounf corners. Watching the kill cam it looks legit from there view but for me i was obviously lagging. Makes you wonder how anyone could be a pro player when these tbings occur. I have gigabit internet so its not on my end.

 

Can’t really compare a laptop to a desktop due to thermals

 

Well several years ago that was definatly true. Now the low voltzge cpu gpu and other component have lowered power demands and heat production. The playing field is nearly level now. Same with console vs pc crossplay, its about time they stop babying console players and punishing pc players during matches. Its pretty sad i need to get perfect headsots at a distance to kill enemy behind cover where console players just need to get the reticule somewhere near tge enemy for a kill.

 

Not sure if you have an experience undervolting/overclocking but the general idea (with a few caveats) is to push your PC till it crashes and then dial back from there. Tell me whT you are going for and I can give a few pointers. Do you just want to lower temps and leave performance as is? Do you want to push performance to the limits? Are you looking for more of a balance?

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Would like to lower temps overall and try and keep performance. No need to push, i have heard undervolting is good for this

 

Yep. So all you need to do is just keep raising that undervolt number then run a few decent stress tests. Keep doing this until it crashes (this won't hurt anything)and then just back it off a bit. If performance is important then I would start with stock voltage, set your overclock to where you want it (XTU is great if you are looking for more simple, Throttlestop is better if you want to really dig in and prevent throttling). Once you are happy with your OC settings, then start your undervolt again, stress test, repeat till you crash then back it off a bit.

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-75 seem to be stable

 

Yeah that number is a general ballpark but every CPU is different and clock settings may be different. You could probably go to -90 if your clock speeds are capped in the 3Ghz range or you may only get to -50 if you've maxed out your CPU and GPU speeds while pulling max TDP/TGP. If the setup is left on stock settings, yes-75 or -80 are average numbers people are getting with this CPU.

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hello World, need recommendation to keep on living with such situation or change it - may be recently anyone some problem with battery, msi center battery modes, calibration program (very bad soft seems so). My typical usage- will be 99% from electricity - not mobile.

Anybody choosing msi center battery modes or skipping it? Any experience with playing with that!?

Situation: in msi center mode for 100% capacity mobility (which is worse for future work for the battery): battery is charged till 100%, take out plug - then testing using battery till it drops till 30-50% - then charging back till 100%.
Ok.


BUT - When I tried to use ANY OTHER (better for plug in msi center soft as they described) - scenarios like limiting charging till 60-80% capacity , etc
It stops charging at all at any level % as it is present after I choose these scenario, and changing back no help.


For example - I used battery till 15% and after plug in back electricity - it not charging till 60% or 80% as msi center soft says. Not at all. But white LED is on.
If I run Msi Calibration: first steps said- all is ok and then calibration process stops on 162 minutes approx.. No charging battery. Like Controller after it don't know his full capacity after using MSI center battery scenarios as in attached pdf file is shows 18% , 56%.
ONLY RESET battery from the laptop back and putting back to 100% charging capacity all the time for mobility mode make it charge and works.


So stop care about battery degradation in future and just use it in 100% mode charging or it could be worse in time and not good at all such a present Controller situation!?


PS. Got 11UE i7 3060 config from Costco - no more to exchange for another and dont want to bring it back too - need this machine. Updated all windows 10, drivers, all msi soft, bios is new last version from site E17K3IMS.119. all other works ok - undervolt ok -60mv, stable work after it in prime 95.

 

for full performance is best full battery 90+ / ac adapter all time
or only EC chip degrades you performance

low battery level + ac -- possitible still performance lag
battery mode - heavy limited

,.,. i using full battery recharge + ac all time "4years" no battery problem - still 7./. wear level
and gaming on battery or low battery + AC -- impossible on gaming notebook !

edit "default windows battery protection"
90-100./. battery level passive // 89./. starts recharge

 

I put my battery at the 50-60% mode. I feel like its the best compromise for my use where I am mostly plugged in but I stull have enough battery to unplug and move it around the house, maybe stay up during a power outage.

I just don't need 3+ hrs of battery. I have AC plugs all over the house, also have a couple of UPS's that I could plug into if power was out, more plugs ins in my vehicle, at hotels, heck even all over my yard and dock. For me the battery on a large DTR is really more of a small portable UPS that I can carry with me. I can turn the laptop on and show someone something or do minor tasks on battery but that is all I need it for.

 

>For example - I used battery till 15% and after plug in back electricity - it not charging till 60% or 80% as msi center soft says. Not at all. But white LED is on.
>If I run Msi Calibration: first steps said- all is ok and then calibration process stops on 162 minutes approx.. No charging battery. Like Controller after it don't know his full capacity after using MSI >center battery scenarios as in attached pdf file is shows 18% , 56%.
>ONLY RESET battery from the laptop back and putting back to 100% charging capacity all the time for mobility mode make it charge and works.

So seems something wrong my battery controller not with everybodiues present msi center software problem?
And your-our MSI CENTER (battery section) software(hardware) working ok with no bugs & could make it in 50-70% scenario and charge till this numbers?

 

Have you tried completely uninstalling MSI Control center and reinstalling it? I had trouble with the control center (as well as some other members in here) and for me, uninstalling and reinstalling resolved these issues.

 

yes I did. Even Windows 10 home too.
Curious is this EC controller on battery or motherboard, seems nobody have same. :-(

 

I'm not really sure as MSI doesn't release detailed schematics like Clevo does for their laptops. I see the EC button and the wiring is running under the battery so not exactly sure where it goes from there. I'd take the battery out and look,, but I noticed one of the wire sheaths for the battery power plug was sliced so I don't want to exacerbate that issue further by removing the battery.

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For example is it charging if you change for 70-80% mode or may be is it software problem of msi center?

 

Owners of RTX 3060 - what is your OC frequencies in afterburner?

Are you mostly in hybrid mode or discrete?

here https://www.ultrabookreview.com/45486-msi-ge76-raider-review/ both modes - hybrid more cool by Temperatures...

 

Anyone know if msi will release a win 11 iso for our machines or just try your luck with windows update

 

I've been running Windows 11 Dev channel release with no issues at all. I just downloaded Windows 11 iso and used Rufus to do a clean install and I've had no driver issues whatsoever.

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New bios. Anyone know whats changed? Do these updates also flash the video bios?

 

this one was EASY - check txt attached file

Model : MS-17K3
MKT Name : GE76 Raider 11UE/GE76 Raider 11UG/GE76 Raider 11UH
;****************************************************************************;

New BIOS : E17K3IMS.11B
ROM CheckSum : BA68C43F
Release Date : 2021/10/01
;--------------------------- Description ------------------------------------;
Support Wi-Fi 6GHz.

 

who is using MSI AFTERBurner to OC our RTX 3060 and what is your overclock for games ? or mining )
share the numbers pl!?

 

I was having problems with Afterburner so I installed EVGA Precision X1 and its amazing. I have the 3080 and I don't know what my numbers are because there is an automatic overclock button in the software that just maxes it out and locks the frequency.

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odd i thought it was already supported?

 

Is it possible to flash the bios of a 3080 via the 3070? All nvflash tools, doesnt support the RTX 30x0
Thanks

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I wish we could - so better do 3090, don’t be shy ;-)

 

Anybody saw or knows in BIOS-UEFI anything connected to DIMM Overclock - setting - anything? cant find in OC menu as well...
Is it possible to OC our DIMM 3200->!??!

and RTX have Resize Bar Enabled but in OC BIOS UEFI setting is one setting - is it any good to make it for all devices or enough is enough?

 

I just found out that the panel on the costco model has 25ms of latency 0.0. What a shame! Is there any way to overlock it? Also any videos on how to replace the panel. Might be worth it if it's relatively easy. If not, then I'm planning on returning this almost-beast :/

Yes the latency matters to me as I play a lot of FPS e-sport titles.

 

how did you find out ?!
in reviews and in games COSTCO MODEL WORKS OK!?

Anyway there is nothing even close or better for this price in this crazy time and you can always use DP port or Thunderbolt for extra Display to connect!?

ps. in this reviews all good-https:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEllENXuTiQ

 

This laptop is amazing at the price of 1299.00 that I paid for mine. I'm no gaming pro, but the display seems pretty good to me. I upgraded RAM to 32 gigs, and added a second higher speed SSD in a Samsung 980 pro at 1TB. So I have lots of HD space, and plenty of Ram. Clean install of Windows 10 and this thing works like a champ. Nothing comes close at this price point for features and amount of hardware you get .

 

Hmmm exactly going to do the same. let me know pls- about both things pls: your
32 DIMM are 2x16.
And there are both slots Busy with 2x8 already ? So you have exchange and dump 2x8?
2. Your Samsung 980 pro for new 4 gen PCIE is in which slot?
I mean I heard one slot is only 3 PCIE gen and one empty is PCIE 4 gen. so where is defaults ssd in- slow 3rd gen with no cache and where is new could go.

 

Check my post:
*** The Official GE76 RAIDER Owners and Discussion Lounge *** | Page 24 | NotebookReview
and review MSI Katana GF 76, with same panel as in new Costco model:
MSI Katana GF76 review: Gaming laptop with room for improvement - NotebookCheck.net Reviews
Quote from review:"In addition to the modest brightness, the remaining values are also rather poor. The display doesn't even cover 60% of the sRGB color space. Response times, which are even more relevant for gamers, aren't all that good either."

 

So for the Ram I removed the two 8x2 sticks that came in the laptop. Replaced with a TeamGroup Elite DDR4 32 GB kit running at 3200MHz. The stick so far have been reliable, ran windows memory test a few cycles with no error. Normally I am a GSkill guy, but their kits would have taken about a week to get to me, whereas the TeamGroup were here a few days from Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08T17RQ87?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

For the Samsung 980 Pro I put it in the slot next to the GPU, as that’s the X4 slot. I confirmed the speed is 6700/5500 in the Samsung magician app, so That’s how I know it is running at its full speed. I clean installed Windows 10 instead of imaging to ensure a good install. Loaded drivers and utilities from MSI with no problems.

Overall, very happy with this laptop. It is the first gaming laptop I have bough in over 10 years since I am more a casual gamer than hardcore. Last gaming laptop I bough was a high end MSI and spent nearly 3K for the thing. I vowed to never spend that much on a laptop again, specially since it was pretty much obsolete within the next few years of having it. This GE76 on the other hand is a pretty good medium range laptop bought at a great price so I am not so worried about it being obsolete in the next few years. Based on the games I play it will be fine for quite a while. The display being average is fine with me since I have nothing to compare to so in this case ignorance is bliss. I use HP laptops at work and I would say the GE76 display for sure is not as bright with good contrast, but adequate for me.

Just noticed it's been a long time since I posted here and my Sig. is my Laptop that I mention that is 10 years old. LOL.

 

ok - read it - sure its cheapy one but same time it says for example about Display Response Times:
- This means that the measured response time is similar to the average of all tested devices (23.8 ms).49 % of all devices are better.
or This means that the measured response time is similar to the average of all tested devices (37.7 ms).37 % of all devices are better.
So looks like in the middle!?!? and not that bad and not the king either for sure. My the most bothering personally parameter is color gamut but it`s other story ;-)
All depends on price equal worth.

 

Let me know pls - they had default Kingston SSD installed in your present Samsung slot X4 or it is in X3?

Thanks, so now you got extra RAM ;-) to get rid off + btw SSD price upgrade already go up...more then(1300)1500$ as present no discount Costco price. Worth ratio is downhill.
May be for this price easier to find something with better display at least, sure less memory around 16Gb and 512Gb SSD capacity (but faster then this default-slow with no cache one).
Still a conclusion and may be Black Friday give some extra good configs-who knows.

 

As my response above states, yes the slot next to the GPU is X4. And the speeds I see confirm that, otherwise the speeds would not be as high as they are.

 

RMA my 3 month old GE76 Raider. Anyone have any info or insight what to expect?

 

thanks and default slow Kingston X3gen from the store was in this slot - but you changed the places?

 

What happened to your laptop to need to send it back for repair? where did you buy it?

 

So the panel is B173HAN04.9
AUO B173HAN04.9 Overview - Panelook.com

it has a 25ms response time but I agree. The price for this beast is disgustingly good! That's why I'm keeping it. I'm looking into upgrading the panel because it's so close to perfection.

Trying the panel used in higher end models and upgrading it myself. Will document it on youtube and share it here if I do. If there are no black friday deals then I'll definitely upgrade the panel.

It plays warzone way better than the legion 5 gen 6 (3070/5800h), the one I also ordered to compare it to the msi although it has a better panel (7ms response time) but has 50fps less performance in warzone. Not to mention the msi's keyboard is way better and has longer key travel. In terms of weight they're very similar.

edit:
here's the goal panel but i don't know if i can overdrive it ...
(300hz)
AUO B173HAN05.1 Overview - Panelook.com

a cheaper one (240hz)
AUO B173HAN05.0 Overview - Panelook.com

The replacement seems easy enough. Just have to be super careful with adhesive and removing casing/panel. Here’s a close enough YouTube video I’ll reference(Don’t know how close till i open the panel’s frame) How to replace MSI Laptop 17" MS1773 screen replacement - YouTube

Cheaper prices on AliExpress: b173han05.0 - Buy b173han05.0 with free shipping on AliExpress

Maybe @MSIGeno can unofficially confirm compatibility for the overdrive (and bless it?)

 

Could be cheating.

i have good performance but don't forget the 25ms panel latency. It mostly plays a part when you snipe.

I tested against a 3070/5800h with a 7ms panel latency and you do feel the difference when sniping.

 

Btw for Truecolor, the installation only worked in MSHybrid mode (using the intel gpu as intermediary to get to the panel).

That said I still get this when I try to launch it

 

Alright! I ordered this one: Original 17.3 Inch IPS FHD LED LCD Display Panel B173HAN05.0 240Hz B173HAN05.1 300Hz 1920x1080 EDP 40PIN 100% sRGB Tested|Laptop LCD Screen| - AliExpress

Will let you know how it goes

 

The video in that Youtube video is not the same laptop. Please create a video when you tackle this, even though I won't be doing a panel swap if its not to bad I may have to reconsider.

Did you choose faster shipping? November is a long time to wait.

 

Oh yeah the YouTube was just the closest i could find (will correct)

i did normal shipping as I’m not in a hurry but shipments tend to arrive quickly to west coast.

will share it out as soon as I get it done

 

The GPU power is spiking to ridiculous high levels. I am seeing over 200W on the core itself. I am thinking a shorted components like a choke thats shorting when its hot. I hope they dont just return it to me saying there nothing wrong.