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But I'm still curious, is getting the Amazon one for $100 less a bad thing?

 

One can never be sure. The thing about power supplies are that the output quality matters. The best kind have extremely low THD levels which is good for electric circuitry. A higher THD usually hampers the overall life of the equipment. It may also cause heating of the equipment. What I'm trying to get to is that the THD levels of the 100$ power supply may or may not match or be poorer than the OEM version. If I were you, I would spend the 130$. Also, There wouldn't be any harm in buying the fat one either I guess (as long as the input pin to your laptop is the same). Pretty sure the fat one will survive longer.

 

Is 80 that bad now? It's never been a bad temp for mobile GPUs before. Hell, it's a great temp. My GTX1080 maxes at 80 when playing at 4K. Previous gen and notiriously after the introduction of the 8800 GTX mobile GPUs, temps on the 100s were even "normal".

I do believe these new GPUs start throttling if they get near 80, however. So even if I flash the 90w BIOS, I will still be temp limited at worst.

Thanks for the input. If the general performance increase is not worth the added heat, I will probably end up flashing back to 80w as well. I have no intention of pushing the laptop to burn it down. After using it and seeing how thin and light it is, I am well aware of its limits and I am not crazy enough to try a full flash anymore. Plus the point of "max Q" is supposed to be quieter gaming, and that won't be accomplished by pushing the card to the limit.

Do you happen to know the temp to which our cards start throttling? It would help me as a reference as well.

 

I believe it’s at 80c. Not 100% sure though.
In TS, I set my safe temp to 78c and anything last that will throttle the CPU to try and reduce overall system heat.


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Recently just received the MSI GS65 085 build. Was noticing quite warm temps while playing The Division 2 and would like to know what are some safe undervolt/temp target settings that wont cause stuttering. Been a few years since I last bought a new unit.

 

You should be able undervolt the CPU and CPU Cache by -125mV without any issues. You have to set the same value on both. There isn't any harm in undervolting. The most i've managed to undervolt it to was -190.4mV without problems, others have only been able to achieve -165mV but i think -125mV is good enough.

 

I have a question on, I just upgraded my unit to dual channel and now my laptop feel like it's concave ever so slightly. I'm not sure if this is how it always was, or if I did something odd, but it's definitely there and only noticable to me.

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Looks to be normal. After some reddit'ing and google searching, it doesn't lay flat for everyone.

 

Through TS or Intel?

Did it through TS real quick. Will see how it improves once I'm back and gaming.

 

The bottom of my screen is slightly concaved as well.

 

Guys could you share ur firestrike scores for gs65 rtx 2060? I oced my card in afterburber using oc scanner it gave me curve in core oc and memory I had to do myself I just set it up to 400. In TS 36 turbo, -0.150 undervolt and im getting 14090 score graphic 15606 and physics 1544.

Thats max I can get with temps maxing out at 88 in that 3rd test

Is there anything else O can do?

 

Is there any way to force my fans to stay quiet? I have Dragon Center uninstalled per everyone's recommendations, along with Silent Option installed, but even setting the Basic option to the very left or Advanced at 0 results in fans kicking on - this is simply browsing the internet or doing nothing with my CPU hovering around 65C-72C and utilization at about 5%.

Also, any way to achieve a "Cooler Boost" esque result with Silent Option where the fans slam right up to maximum? It seems to ramp up very very slowly...

 

i managed to oc my rtx 2060 in afterburner using oc scanner it landed on 210 core and manually raised memory to 1200(!!) On 1400 i get artifacts.

With these + TS -150 undervolt and 36 max turbo my highest firestrike score is 14220 is it very good score? Cpu temps are avg 67 through whole test and maxing at 88 during 3rd test, gpu is max 70

I have dragon centre installed. What you say?

 

Pascal had memory correction, so I would advise to confirm if your overclocked memory is actually giving you performance, or you already are in a memory correction area. there should be consistent performance upgrade with clocks but at some point it doesn't give you any extra performance, and instead hurts.

 

You might have to use throttlestop to set a custom profile to lower the CPU clocks if you want no fans at all for just browsing, or a "battery" profile that you can switch to in those cases. I personally just use Dragon Center's Eco fan mode if I want silent fans as it underclocks the CPU really low and I never hear the fan turn on.

 

have you unlocked the BIOS with the secret code? it's in this thread somewhere. there is a feature in the BIOS that determines at which temp the fans power up (and override your silent option options). it is configurable but it jumps in quantities of 7~8C per tick. i was drunk when i found it so i forgot exactly where it's at gonna try to find it again next week

 

I've just gotten my MSI GS65 with RTX 2060 with 256gb ssd for 2249$ CAD. Is worth good the penny i pay?

 

Didn't search through the thread, but has anyone seen temperature improvements with repasting? If so, which material?

 

I'm interested in this MSI GS65 and I'll be getting it from HIDevolution with the best thermal paste and two 1tb ssds. It will be somewhere short of 3k. I'm curious if the current owners have any issues or nagging problems with it. This will be my portable gaming platform laptop and for general usage. Thunderbolt on this one makes it stand out and doesn't it come with a 120hz IPS screen?

 

I just received my unit which is the 8SF build (2019, 32GB RAM, 2070MQ). My current nagging gripes would probably be the slightly higher than expected thermals on the underside of the back-end. Was wondering if there were some ways to improve it.

 

Are you sure you got 1200 on memory? I can't even go 200 on memory without having a bsod during games/benchmarks

I simply have a custom curve with +250 core avg and it gives me 15900 on firestrike graphics. I believe @xLima has a 17000 firestrike graphics. But for that he did the bios peg0 aspm configuration to 0.

Realistically speaking, in order to let the 2060 perform to its full potential, you'll have to let the CPU turbo max during games. Given the heat it produces, I personally just limit CPU to 2.2GHz and limit 2060 to 70W power draw. System stays under 65C and my thighs don't burn.

As long as I'm getting 80FPS avg, I'm happy.

 

https://www.theeverydayenthusiast.com/home/review-2019-msi-gs65

 

Wondering if the GS65 Stealth 8SF 2070 comes with single or dual channel memory?

Thanks!

 

Edit: Seems for some reason the BIOS wont let me edit the CPU Flex Ratio Settings value from 22. The Override is enabled but it wont let me change anything.

 

You just recently bought a GT63, what happened?

Most new MSI laptops have shifted to 144hz panels, and they are IPS-like. I think they don't use the literal IPS symbols because of trademarks/tech but it has wide viewing angles. Thankfully thunderbolt has been adopted by MSI for most models as well.

The GS series is extremely portable, just recently got myself a GS75 and it's fantastic. Anyways, what happened to your GT63? not happy with it?

 

Seems like a gamble. For the most part I think the new GS65 models with 16 GB are most of the time single RAM dimm resulting in single channel memory, so you would need to upgrade your RAM as soon as possible to get dual channel memory.

But I have seen somewhere people with apparently two 8GB sticks. I would assume it is single channel config and go full 32GB dual stick.

 

If you (or anyone else) can find this, it'd be really helpful!

I would use Dragon Center but a few people in this thread have said it will override the CPU power limit mod in the BIOS...

 

Okey, will have to check when I get my hands on it. It says 2x8 on the retailers site so im hoping its dualchannel

 

Guys!

I have a question on the USB ports. I thought the USB ports were supposed to be gen 3.1. Any clue why two of my USB ports are 3.0?

 

Yeah thats because of the consumer misinformation campaign by the guys making the USB standards.

Originally there was 3.0 (5gbps)

Then there was 3.1 which rebranded 3.0 as 3.1 gen 1 (5gbps) and introduced a faster standard 3.1 gen 2 (10gbps)

Now, there will be 3 speeds all named 3.2
3.2 gen 1 (5gbps)
3.2 gen 2 (10gbps)
3.2 gen 2x2 (20gbps)

Utter bs

 

So we basically have USB 3.1 gen 1? How does one check if it's gen 1 or gen 2?

 

Yeah, you can either call it 3.0, 3.1 gen 1 or 3.2 gen. Doesn't matter, they're the same thing.

And that's the problem, manufacturers just list it as 3.0, 3.1 or 3.2 without saying which gen it is. Making it nigh impossible for consumers to tell which speed they are getting.

 

So

I looked through the data in their website. And they seem to mention USB 3.1 Gen2 *3

https://us.msi.com/Laptop/GS65-Stealth-8SX/Specification

Absolutely confused now.

 

That's as clear as can be

USB 3.1 gen 2

10gbps

Thats it.

 

I agree, but then why is the device manager indication 3.0?

 

I didn't use that mod as feeding the CPU more power is just going to make fans spin faster/louder. Up to you though.

 

Guys, did any of you tried connecting 2 external DisplayPort monitors from mDP and USB C ports?

Is RTX 2060 capable of handling 2 monitors (4K and 2K) at the same time?

 

Does anyone know how to solve this error?

"USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Selective Suspend"

I got it while running the powercfg/energy.

My CPU is just stuck at C7. Never goes to C8. I have core parking enabled.

 

Honestly, i wouldn't go around messing with BIOS to much. Most of those settings are hardlocked into the board itself, so even when you change the value it actually doesn't keep it.
For example, i changed the TDP limit for turbo in the BIOS from 45w, to 90w and the short power max from 90w to 180w. It changed the values, of course, but didn't supply more juice.
Once you're in the BIOS the keys to press and hold are LEFT CTRL, LEFT SHIFT, RIGHT ALT, F2. I won't take responsibility for any damage you may do, and hopefully won't.
If you find yourself stuck after messing around with options in there, while the computer is powered down press and hold the power button for 30-60 seconds. The computer will go to the boot screen then power down, keep the power button held. After about a minute, press the power button to boot up. The computer will go through 3 phases as it resets all the BIOS option to factory default. Let it do this, it will boot on and off a couple times until it boots to the OS.
To save you some time, the temp at which the CPU fan will turn on to 75% is 71 Celsius, thermal throttling begins at 94 and critical shutdown is 119 (if the chip hasn't melted by then lol)

 

Is anybody using drivers from Nvidia website? They keep the dGPU in high power state, I'm getting like idle temps in 50C. Nothing is running on dGPU, even more - I can disable dGPu in device manager, it still heats up. If I go to bios, disable optimus and PEG PCI port my idle temps drop to 30C. I kind of need the newer drivers because the MSi ones don't support desktop RTX (I have 2080 Ti running as eGPU).

 

Whats the optimus setting in Nvidia control panel set on, and do you have the power setting on optimal performance? Also try dedicating the external gpu to PhysX.

Also, there are some eGPU settings in BIOs. I forget which, I'd have to look.

 

Optimus set to iGPU by default, I tried all power settings. That is happening even without eGPU connected - I’m traveling this week.

I just loaded the drivers from MSI again and sure enough everything is back to normal, idle in the 30’s with GPU fan off as opposed to 50’s with fan @3k rpm.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...advanced-version.823065/page-12#post-10880937

 

I have been and am noticing the same thing. For me, the dGPU never goes off (orange light is always on) and temps are settle around 50 even when CPU is at 0%. I haven't had the time to work through what's going on.

 

Good to know, I'll give this a try.

 

Regarding the dGPU not powering off when it's not in use, I suspect it may be because something used its RAM and didn't properly clear it, and so Optimus can't power off the GPU for fear of losing the memory. Try disabling and re-enabling the dGPU with the device manager, waiting for a few secs, and seeing if the light turns white.
That's what happens in my case, anyway, so I bound powershell commands to a hotkey that disables and re-enables the dGPU. It has to run with Admin privileges:

Code:

Get-PnpDevice | where {$_.friendlyname -like "*nvidia geforce rtx*"} | disable-pnpdevice -confirm:$false
Get-PnpDevice | where {$_.friendlyname -like "*nvidia geforce rtx*"} | enable-pnpdevice -confirm:$false

 

Yeah, I did notice in Process Explorer that some apps were holding onto dGPU memory. I'll give this a try, and thanks for the Powershell script.

 

Now I have messed up something, the orange light goes on as soon as laptop starts (white is on for maybe half a second right after pressing power button on cold boot), doesn't go off at all, whether the dGPU is disabled in device manager or not. GPU-z doesn't report dGPU sensors (temp 0C, dashes for clocks) but I can feel the bloody thing warm plus it heats up the CPU. It looks like when dGPU is disabled the Silent Option shows iGPU temp.

 

I'm using them - no problems. White led when dGPU isn't active and temperature about 33*C right now.

 

Thanks, I'll keep messing around then. What version of drivers do you use, number and gamers/creators?

 

419.67 DHC
Without nvidia experience.