The NEW MSI GS75, 8th GEN Intel, NVIDIA RTX GPU with GDDR6!

Damn, those are impressive temps, congrats! Do you have a 9750H or the 9880H CPU? I’m probably getting mine from HIDEvolution with liquid metal as well, can’t wait

 

Thanks.

It is the i7 9750h. I tried to get the i9 model but its only available in very specific regions.

 

Ah I see. Here in the Netherlands, they still sell the 8750h for 3200 euros at the highest end lol.

Can’t wait to see the rest of your results

 

Guys, will 15 inch laptop sleeves fit the GS75?

If not will it slide around in a 17 inch one?

 

It can fit 15 inch sleeves if they are "normal" or generous. It does have a very close to 15 inch size. It fits my 15 inch backpack like nothing happened, while my GT73 wouldn't even fit at all haha.

 

I bought and returned many 15"sleeves before getting this one: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MJKRBCY/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It fits perfectly and has extra protection on the corners which is nice.

 

Noted. Thanks

 

It has caught my attention that the new Razer Blade 17 Pro comes equipped with 100w tdp 2070 Max-q gpus. Im not sure about the TDP of the 2080 Max-q gpus but the 100w 2070 max q seems to be almost matching regular 2080 Max-qs in performance.

Will be awesome if they release a 110-120w tdp 2080 max q (so that we can flash their vbios)

 

That'd be awesome. The jump from 80w to 90w is already nice of course, but wouldn't it be possible to flash a 100w 2080 Max Q Vbios from a Blade on the GS75? Should yield great results with a liquid metal repaste and a CPU undervolt!

 

Absolutely!

 

When they came out the specifications of the RTX Max-Q said a TDP between 80w and 115w, I never understood why the manufacturers have been so conservative with bios only of 80w first and 90w later when in all the reviews good temperatures are seen around the 70º maximum under load with standard cooling, there is room to squeeze a little more. Let's see if we catch one of those bios at 100w, it sure improves a lot.

 

Hey guys, I hope someone can help me out here. So I just received my GS75 Stealth 85G and the performance have been absolutely terrible.

Specs:
CPU: i7-8750H
RAM: 16GB x 2
GPU: RTX 2080 Max Q

1. I ran some 3D Mark Fire Strike and the average FPS was at 15 FPS. Note that I've quadruple checked and 100% sure it was benching the RTX 2080.

2. Ran some 3D Mark Sky Dive and score were around 10000, less than half of 3DMark example (GTX 980M Laptop scored 22000). Average FPS were 50, same as the Integrated Intel Graphics.

3. Test run a non demanding game (Path of Exile) and average FPS scored at 15 FPS. GPU load is at 100% all time in game, with no changes to clock.

Below is a GPU-Z Log when I turned on the game. It seems that the GPU never got out of idling, memory clock stays at 202.5Mhz and Core clock jumps to expected rate only at the intro video, then dropped back to 300Mhz almost immediately and stays. I've done research for a fix but found nothing so far.





What I've tried to do:

1. Uninstall-Reinstall Nvidia Driver, no changes.
2. Adjust Power Settings, no changes.
3. Set every test programs to use RTX 2080, no changes.
4. Use Afterburner to adjust the clock, changes would not register.

I'm happy to work with anything at this point, I would really hate to return this laptop but I would have no choice if there's no fix.

Edit: Forgot to say that I saw the CPU sitting at 30-40%, temp around 70C.

Edit #2: I noticed something from further testing, my machine works perfectly fine in the first few minutes after booting. Games runs at expected FPS level, benchmark performs fine as well but then everything took a nosedive after 2-3 minutes. I suspect this is a problem with throttling setting.

 

You already tried anything I thought of, sorry . Hopefully someone here has an answer for you!

 

To be more accurate 2080maxq tdp is from 80 to 150+ and 2070 one 80 to 115 watt, so i think it depends on how vrm can manage the voltage, maybe manufacturer just want to play safety. About gpu temperature it won’t be a matter increasing the tdp, it maybe only slightly increase, but AC adapter temperature maybe increased pushing more watt as notebookcheck pointed on Blade Pro one potential issue.

 

So I was overclocking my gpu when I noticed a peculiar behavior.

Using Far Cry 5 as a benchmark, I noticed that setting vram above +500 would result in a crash mid-bench, however, once I jumped to +800, it would run just fine and post higher results.

Any explanation for this?

Personally I interpreted it as a very clear cut between max q and max p versions.

Like how a typical 2070 and 2080 max q are limited to 80w and the max p versions are limited to 115w and 150w+ respectively.

But now that there are 90w and 100w variants of the 2070 and 2080 max q, its not so clear anymore.

 

So after doing lots of benchmarks on how each tweak affected the performance, it seems that removing the cpu power limit and overclocking the gpu gives the largest performance boost.

Comparing stock to gpu oc+no cpu power limit

Timespy
Overall 7679 -> 8328
Gpu 7976 -> 8508
Cpu 6278 -> 7443

Thats a +8.45%, +6.67% and +18.39% increase respectively.

Cinebench R15 1197 -> 1317 (+10.03%)

Cinebench R20 2708 -> 3229 (+19.24%)

Heaven 4.0 125.1 -> 131.16 (+4.84%)

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So I stumbled onto a thread talking about whether dragon center negatively affected performance and I decided to reinstall dragon center and test it out myself.

Here are the results (turbo, maxed fans)

Far cry 5 113.3 -> 114.3

Heaven 4.0 131.16 -> 133.63

Firestrike
Overall 18201 -> 18393
Gpu 20979 -> 21574
CPU 17820 -> 17867
Combined 9282 -> 8922

R15 1317 -> 1316 (margin of error)

R20 3229 -> 3229 (identical)

Edit:
Just finished timespy
Overall 8328 -> 8397
Gpu 8508 -> 8577
CPU 7443 -> 7505

Tested on a GS75, i7 9750h (power limit removed, repasted with Conductonaut), RTX2080 Max-q (90w version, repasted with Conductonaut, +140mhz core, +800mhz memory).

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Hello guys, just a quick update to my issue with RTX 2080 being throttled to death past 60C. After doing every fix possible (Reinstall drivers, Reset BIOS, Flash BIOS, etc), I went and do a factory reset and the laptop now seems to perform normally!

3DMark Fire Strike scored at 16398.

 

Glad the issue was solved. I had an issue with stuck clocks at 990mhz when using the 90w vbios, and it got solved after resintalling the video drivers a couple of times. Funny enough it hasn't happened again after that time, despite reinstalling windows a couple more times.

 

I noticed that my panel has some light bleeding on the bottom left side, near the corner, I see it in all dark screen, startups and watching movies with the horizontal black bars, in other situations I dont notice it.

When I pressed one spot on the bezel the bleed becomes homogeneous and desapears, Will continuing to press solve the problem ? I read some feedback on internet that says that.

Its my second GS75, the other one has a dead pixel problem and I returned it, I will probably kept this unit, any idea to fix this issue would be appreciated.

 

Same situation here. I placed the laptop upside down (in its cloth cover of course ) on a flat table for a day and it was reduced.

 

How did you get to that solution? I´m curious . I will try it.

I think its a minor issue but now I can´t stop looking at this defect.

 

Logic I guess?

If it's caused by a slight bend the solution is to even out that bend

 

Greetings all! I was wondering if anyone knows if the 9th Gen (9570H) GS75 2070 RTX has the 80w or 90w variant? I am going to pick one up from Best Buy because they are running at $1949 for the 2070 RTX variant with the 1TB SSD. Thank you all!

 

It should be the 90w variant.

 

I tried it and it didn´t work ( I did not have much hope but...).
It´s a pity since the light bleed is very localized on one spot, I will have to live with it.......

 

That's a shame :/

Where is the point of bleed in your case? Mine was along the bottom left of the screen.

 

Idem, bottom left, 2cms near the corner.

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Lightbleed itself is expected on these panels but I haven't tried to even it out myself. I can try the upside down approach and see if it's homogenized or reduced.

 

Lol why is everyone trying my stupid idea XD.

By the way, I think the cloth that came with the GS75 plays a key role in evening out the display as it will better transfer the force from the keyboard to the display.

I'm going to try using a thicker piece of cloth to see if it works to fully even out the display on mine.

 

Mine seems somehow reduced after pressing the bezel many times. Is that or It´s I'm just forgetting about it...


On the other hand......

Any suggestions regarding gs75 case?
I bought one in amazon that said it was 39.6cms internal long (a 15,6 wide), just the size of our laptop, and it didn´t fit
narrowly, too tight.
I found the 17,3 ones too big, too much spare space.

 

Linked a few pages behind, the one i bought: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MJKRBCY/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Fits perfectly, material and design depend on your taste though.

 

Order made !!, Its perfect, thanks !!!

 

sorry about asking this but there is too much reading
not sure if this is the lounge, but i am considering buying this device
the 1660ti with 1tb ssd because 1660, 2060 and 2070max-q are all similar in performance
anything i should look for ? or is there any known issues should be looked at ?
not much also familiar with the thermals of the device or its fan sounds

 

If you're looking for the most bang for buck then the 1660ti model will give you that. The RTX2060 is close to the 2070 Max-q and supports ray tracing but honestly speaking, even my 2080 Max-q barely cuts it for gaming with Ray tracing enabled.

You can watch Jarrod'sTech GS75 review for the fan noise comparisons. He compares the fan noise at idle, gaming, stress testing and at max fans.

 

I completely agree with Sean. If you're on a budget and you don't need bleeding edge, 1660 and 2060 are great for 1080p gaming. I would've gone with a 2060 myself, but I did want the i9 processor which is only an option with the 2070 and 2080 MQ.

 

Fan noise is very interesting for me. After using the GS75 for a while, I had forgotten how loud my GT73 is in comparison. It's a world of difference how loud the GT is haha, and I was used to it!

 

Hey guys, so I just bought a used GS75 8th gen and discovered that it did not come with an operating system...I think. It just opens up to the bios. I have a copy of windows so that is not a problem, but what other steps should I take to make sure that I have the most up to date drivers and such? Also, what should I be checking for in terms of ensuring everything is in decent shape performance-wise? Which programs/benchmarks would you run for this?
Thanks in advance for you help.

 

New BIOS version released 7/17, E17G1IMS.10D. Looks like a CPU microcode update to address "Zombieload".

Been crossing fingers each release that something will fix the Standby->Hibernate transition problem I still have... So I applied the update without issue. Probably didn't address my problem though.

 

Welcome! The windows CD key is bound by the motherboard so you can install a new USB bootable windows 10 and it should automatically work without issues.

Most drivers will be found by windows, but I do advice you download the utilities from MSI's support page for your MSI GS75 model. Also the sound drivers, in case you want nahimic to work as that's the one that sometimes gives me trouble when fresh installing.

I recommend having monitoring software like HWinfo, HWmonitor, MSI Afterburner or even GPU Z, to check the CPU and GPU both in % utilization as well as clocks and overall performance. You can download 3dmark to run a couple of benches and compare scores with other users or similar configs, or you can tell us some games you are playing with your fps and we can probably compare there too.

If possible, check if you have two sticks of RAM, because in some games, having a single stick of ram limits your performance.

Ever since my GT60, I've given up on using anything hibernation/sleep on any laptop I own. It gave me headaches on every single laptop I have owned ever since. Including my P1 sometimes ahahaha.

 

Awesome, thanks so much. Yeah I have just the one stick of 16, so I will consider adding that down the road.

 

I just got my msi gs75 and I’m having an issue when playing a game my gpu goes from 1300mhz to 300mhz back and forth back and forth does any one know what to do to fix this ?

 

This weekend I found that I can stop the fans through MSI command center, meeting profile, 0 rpm. They must have included the option in the last update, I had tried it before and it didn´t work. It makes the laptop dead silent

I will install a 1Tb m2 SSD this week, ¿the motherboard comes with the screw? .

¿ Would you recommend 16-> 32gb (dual chanel) ram update for a non-intensive gamer? . My GS75 is the 2060 card one.

 

I have been using my self configured fan profile (advanced profile, in dragon cente) for a while now and while unplugged and doing light work (browsing & matlab) the fans are off most of the time.

And yes, I would recommend a second stick of ram for better 1% lows for a smoother experience.

 

I experienced this last time because the laptop was using the igpu rather than the nvidia gpu.

Setting default gpu to dedicated graphics should solve the problem.

 

It’s using the Nvidia card . I got it rubbing a little better but now it’s thermal throttling at 75c


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I flashed the vbios from the Razer blade Pro 17.

And unfortunately it still caps at 90w.

Apparently the 100w is only achievable when you max out all the performance settings in razer synapse so no improvement for the rest of us.

Going to try the 150w vbios from Max-P laptops next

 

Hmm, while looking around for the 150w vbios, I noticed something odd

This is a GPU-Z screenshot from a GE75 2080. Notice the TMU count of 245


The thing is, RTX 2080 gpus are supposed to only have 184 TMUs. And the 2080 super has 192 TMUs.

Any explanation?

The device ID is the same as my GS75 2080 Max-q - 10DE 10E9

 

jany performance improvements or just number changed?

 

No idea