@seanwee does the GS75 come with screws in place for the two remaining ssd slots?
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How is the gameplay noice on the GS75, especially after repasting and undervolting?
I am trying to decide between this computer and the Lenovo y740, which is priced similar to GS75 in sweden. -
It does get loud, but imo it is not unbearable, and there is not much difference in loudness (from my perspective) from like 75 to almost 100% fan speed. The laptop itself as a min speed of 50%, so you can definitely hear the bump from 50 up to 75 but then the sound is not that much.
I find it completely acceptable. And at 100%, it sounds like my GT73 maybe at 70%.Bambilambi likes this. -
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New Bios version for the GS75 released today - E17G1IMS.10D
Description
1. Update CPU Microcode version for Intel-SA-00233 (it's called Zombieload, MDS).
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I finally got my GS75 in yesterday and am currently in the processing of optimizing and getting the most power out of it. Can someone explain how to stop power limit throttling? Running an Aida64 stresstest, it starts by pulling around 83w according to Throttlestop, but then falls back to 45w quickly, with all 8 cores (i9 9880h) sitting at around 3.3ghz.
Also, do you recommend keeping or uninstalling Dragon Center? Is there a way to control the fans without it?
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Then go to Advanced > Power & Performance > CPU - Power Management Control > CPU VR Settings > Core/IA VR Settings
Set IMON Slope to 50
Set IMON Offset to 31999
Set IMON Prefix to "-",
Save and Reboot.
As for dragon center I tested the performance impact of it and it was within margin of error (very slightly faster in fact).
Aside from performance I find it very useful. I use it to easily control fan profiles and also to keep the battery charge at 70-80% for better battery longevity.YoungStarDC likes this. -
I'm always a bit wary of messing around in the BIOS. Is this dangerous for the machine in any way, and are there any precautions I should take?seanwee likes this. -
If you must test it, keep a very close eye on the temperature readings. My GS75 with just a 6 core i7 hits 86-88°C on those stress tests and that is with a liquid metal repaste.
One thing in the BIOS that you must absolutely stay away from is undervolting. NEVER EVER UNDERVOLT IN THE BIOS. You may cause the laptop to go into an infinite rebooting cycle.YoungStarDC likes this. -
I've already undervolted through Throttlestop, so I won't touch anything else in the BIOS. Thanks again! -
Do post gaming benchmarks
You can also create a custom fan profile in dragon center. I'm using 75% fan (out of 150%) on cpu and gpu which settles at 77°C on the cpu and gpu while gaming.
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I'll be installing games to test soon.
One thing I did notice was that in Throttlestop, the power draw is not accurately displayed anymore. I suspect that's because of the BIOS changes. Do you experience the same thing?
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BTW, shouldn't the i9 9880h max out at 4.1Ghz all core? It seems to me that there is still some throttling. Try raising the core multipliers in throttlestop FIVR to the maximum. -
It's time to dive into afterburner now as well -
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I'm going to dive into Afterburner now. I already set up a battery profile in Throttlestop. I don't think I'll overclock the RAM though.seanwee likes this. -
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This is the first 17 inch laptop I've had in a decade and man, it's great! So far I love pretty much everything about this laptop.
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I had an Aorus X5 V8 and I've got to say, the way you could manage the fan curve was done a lot better there! I would've liked to choose at what percentage the fans ramp up at a specific temperature. This is a bit oversimplified. Or am I missing something?
This is how it was on the Aorus. -
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Hopefully they expand the feature set with a real fan curve in a future update -
And yes, they really should revamp the fan control to a more granular one. They've been using this type of fan control since 2015 -
Finally got around to actually game! Played about 4 hours of Forza Horizon 4 with all settings maxed out. Gotta say, liquid metal + undervolt and some optimization basically equals magic
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I've had the fans set on advanced in Dragon Center and they could ramp up to a max of 120%. If I had to guess going by the sound, they were under 80% pretty much the whole time.
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By the way, have you removed the stickers next to the trackpad? If so, do they leave any residue or is it clean afterwards? -
And yes, I removed the stickers on the laptop. It was the first thing I did actually. All stickers can be peeled off cleanly with patience, all except the RTX sticker. That leaves a lot of residue.
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As for the GPU, it averaged 70c and hit a max of 73c, which I think is very, very good. The fans were set to 100% max. -
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Can anyone chime in whether the MSI 75 8750/2060 (90w) vBIOS version can run a 230w PSU or will the EC ignore the higher PSU and draw on the battery.
Also running 3200Mhz CL16 in Dual Channel without issue and it makes a huge difference in games.Last edited: Aug 19, 2019 -
In the quest of pushing my GS75 to the limit, I managed to further reduce power consumption of the GS75 to get a solid 8-9 hours (was about 6+) while watching movies. (second lowest brightness, keyboard backlight off)
I followed this guide and the two steps that lengthened battery life the most were enabling HIPM+DIPM+DevSleep (I use all 3 ssd slots so this helped more) and enabling speedshift.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...e-on-windows-enabling-deeper-c-states.815602/
Discharge rate according to batterybar is around - 9,500mW to - 10,300mW now.Bambilambi likes this. -
So, i recently bought the 8sf version with 8750 and 2070 maxq.
I am considering changing to the 9sg version.
A question. Where are your firestrike scores at with the 2080?
I am trying to decide if it is worth it
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Yeah, that is a distinct difference. Very nice values with your changes.
Did you settle for the 90 watt vbios?
Since I most likely won't go for the ram modification I guess I will not reach that level. I am thinking I might reach 21-22k range with the normal throttlestop, afterburner combo.
The 9sg have a 1 tb SSD and 32 ram compared to the 512 GB SSD and 16 ram of the 8sf model. And of course the better CPU and GPU.
It is the hard question of what I actually need compared to my emotional want.
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Ah, ok.
I read earlier that you experimented with the higher wattage vbios. Did you get it to work?
I agree 16 ram is definitely enough for the next 1-2 years at least. In Sweden there is currently only one version of the 9sg for sale and it is the 32 ram/ 1tb SSD option. -
And it was the same case for me. There was only a 32gb option if I wanted to get the GS75 with 2080Max-q -
Anyone else lost Optimus with the last Nvidia drivers ? :/
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Do you remember your stock graphics score in firestrike?
It is around 20200 for me with around 21300 using MSI afterburner and a 150 OC.
I am just trying to decide if i was lucky/unlucky on the computer.
Seems good considering notebookcheck got around 20k (1980 ish)
Otherwise this finally feels good.
From Lenovo y740 (to big), gs75 8sf (to weak) to the gs75 9sg.
Its really a remarkable difference ingame from the 8sf verison. 20-30% better framrates.
I had a old 970m asus laptop from 2015 before. so its basically double the framerates in witcher 3... now to reinstall good old modded skyrim again...Last edited: Sep 6, 2019seanwee likes this. -
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Ok, thanks for the input. Out of interest, How did you get the graphics score another 1000. Was that due to the oc ram or something else?
Also another thing. I have so far not removed dragon center. (Since I am considering dropping afterburner and instead using turbo and oc there instead.)
And from what I have heard;
Eco mode is power saving mode, (no cpu turbo)
Comfort mode is like balanced energy scheme: CPU can use turbo, but no change to GPU.
Sport mode is max performance energy scheme: CPU can use turbo and some kind of dynamic OC to the gpu.
And turbo mode is basically sport mode where I can OC the gpu like in afterburner.
I have tried firestrike both in comfort and sport mode, with throttlestop and afterburner active and I see no real difference in points.
Have anyone noticed a difference between comfort and sport mode when using these programs?Last edited: Sep 6, 2019 -
I got the extra 1000 points by using optimised nvidia drivers and pushing the gpu oc to +160 core, +800 memory. The ram oc helps increase the cpu score.Bambilambi and Kevin@GenTechPC like this. -
I have been using dragon center to limit the max battery charge to 70-80% but all of a sedden windows decided that 70-80% is the max capacity of the battery and now its showing 100% when it's actually only at 70% charge.
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I have installed the latest version of Dragon Center two days ago and it has stopped working, it does not run either at the start or manually. I can not fix it or installing clean, or with the previous version. Any ideas?
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Very wierd problem
The NEW MSI GS75, 8th GEN Intel, NVIDIA RTX GPU with GDDR6!
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