MSI GE63VR / GE73VR Raider Laptops

Hi, so I just purchased the GE73VR GTX 1070 Model, and will be receiving it monday or tuesday, next week.

What do you guys recommend is the first thing i do when i get it?
I have read that it comes installed with alot of bloatware, and i have tried to search the forum for a topic for what to remove so the MSI laptop runs quick and performs best possible, but i couldnt find a thread precisely about that.

What about under-volting? - is it a good thing to do from the start?

Basicly i want to tweak it best possible, for gaming - since i wount use it for anything else than that.

Hope you guys can help, and i cant wait to game on this laptop! hoping it will keep up for most upcomming newer game titles for at least 2 years! before looking for another laptop!

 

Search this thread. Use keywords. Everything you asked about has been mentioned several times.

 

Recently I have tried a GP73 Leopard 8RF (that have the same hardware as the GE73 version less the screen), and here you can see the result of some tests:

Benchmark:
Fire Strike 1.1: 15.475 [G:17.845, P:15.798, C:7.637]
Fire Strike 1.1 OC: 16.158 [G:18.959, P:15.343, C: 7991]

TimeSpy 1.0: 5740 [G: 5813 , P: 5359]
TimeSpy 1.0 OC: 6003 [G: 6123 , P: 5402]

Fire Strike Extreme OC: 8410
Fire Strike Ultra OC: 4511
Time Spy Extreme OC: 2852

CINEBENCH R15.0: 1100 - 1014 (First - Average)



CINEBENCH R15.0 OC: 1199 - 1080 (First - Average)



OC (Enviroment of OC: Overclock GPU and UnderVolt CPU):

GPU [Core: +200Mhz, Memory: +350Mhz]
CPU [Core: -0.140mV Voltage Offset]
FANs: Auto

Tested 1h with OverWatch (Epic) and 1h with The Witcher 3 (Ultra+), without problems.
The GPU didn't exceed 80º, although CPU still reaches 90º+, this profile keeps lower temperatures​

Battery:

• Capacity: 52WH
  
  
• Consumo:
  • Idle: 11Wh/h (With Undervolt, 25% Brig) -> 4h
  • WifiSurfing: 16Wh/h -> 3h
    
  • Normal: 20Wh/h -> 2h 30m
  • Gaming: 60Wh/h -> 50m

Temps:
Ambient: 27º [Normal: No UnderVolt]




If I have more time I will upload more info, but I think I will change this laptop for a 15" version

 

some of the keywords i find are 2+ years old ? - how do i know if all of the old guides is still what i should do? or is the #1 post being kept up to date?

 

yes

 

I'm back with some bad news not even the RESET PC worked...I'm about to give up with the killer network device as THERE IS NO WAY TO MAKE IT WORK in the 1803 windows 10 version!

 

Very recently my GE63VR started freezing every now and then. When I pull out the power plug, immediately it "de-freezes", mouse cursor even moves really fast as if it was holding back everything.
Any known causes/solutions?

 

If you have installed anything, try uninstalling that. If it is recent it could be something has changed a setting, or screwed up a driver install (Nvidia/windows are good for that) also check your power scheme/settings in control panel.

 

On my device manager. Monitor is being displayed as Generic PnP monitor. Is this normal? Should there be any other model number displayed?
And now CSGO seems blurry after Clean windows installation. Any drivers missing?
Model GE73VR 7RF. Anyone with the same model can confirm? Thanks

 

Yep, Generic PnP is fine, unless you have another external monitor plugged in that the manuf. released specific drivers for.

Blurriness could be any number of things:

Make sure you set it up so CSGO is run through the nvidia card rather than the intel.

watch this video to show you how to correctly remove and install nvidia drivers:

- not my video but you'll iron out issues by doing it this way rather than "install over the top blah"

Go into nvidia control panel and set it up individually for CS:GO - see file attatched for where to go and what to do:

I dont have csgo but heres the window I am on about:

if it is not added automatically, add the exe here as I have done for heroes and Generals



go down the list and set your Anti aliasing settings, and make sure you are using the NV card.

As a rule I use "override applications settings" because the app settings for AA and AF are mince so I let the GFX driver do it. Getting your stuff here means you have a more precise way of setting games up.

I'm not a fan of Geforce experience, so dont have it installed. I prefer doing it this way. Hope this helps.

 

Question to owners of GE73 8RF - preinstalled 16GB of RAM comes in two 8GB sticks or one 16GB?
Thanks in advance

 

It may depending on exactly which version you get, but the MSI GE73 Raider 8RF RGB-012 comes with 16GB (2x 8GB).

 

And there is only two ram slots, right?

 

That is correct. If you want four slots, you would need to move to the GT63 8RF, or 8RG.

 

Thanks Donald!

 

One of my keys (the H key) suddenly "lags" behind with color-changing configs in the steelseries software.
It's really annoying so I leave the keys "static" right now.
I tried rebooting and updating the software, any other suggestions?

 

I'm having a small issue with my GE63VR after installing the latest Windows 10 Update. Right now, no matter what I do, the Nvidia GPU remains ALWAYS on, even when it is unplugged or when it is in idle mode. I've tried some classic solutions (putting laptop to sleep), but the Nvidia GPU still remains on.
Any solution to this? My battery life drains from 5 hours to 1.5 hours because of the GPU, and the chassis gets slightly hot due to the GPU fan not even running (it only runs when a game is Launched, it looks like the GPU is always on but in an idle state).
Thank you!

EDIT: Actually, my bad, I've had no issues AT ALL! It looks like Nvidia, Intel and Microsoft have all come together and found a way to completely get rid of the microstuttering caused by Optimus switching. All I've needed to do was to force-quit the Nvidia application (somehow, it's kept opened in the background and forces the dGPU to stay on), and the power led is white again. I hope my comment at least helps the puzzled souls who come across the same issue.

 

Hello i was trying to compare sku's. the notebook review mentions an 8rf sku of the GE63 but i did not see one. EU sku maybe?

i see some places selling the GE63 Raider 213 and some places have the GE63 RGB (msi's site list a -025 sku being the best but i only see the 2n d best 010 sku for sale)


does the RGB sku preform better? its basically 8750h vs 7700hq (which runs cooler and for what type of things does the newer cpu run better since its mostly for school and gaming)

 

your sig says you own the 7700hq, what made you go with the older cpu?


i know the 8750h throttles, but 3.1 on 6 cores stills seems good. im mostly concerned with heat/temps while doing work and gaming.

 

Um I bought it when 7th gen was current and before the 8 series was released ?

 

fair enough haha.

damn need to find an 8750h owner to see if temps are controllable or if i should just buy the 7700hq version of the GE63

 

From what I've read, the thermals ARE better than the 7 series chip by virtue of evolution etc, but are as controllable via undervolting etc. In short you should run the same or cooler @ stock and with tweaking, much better.

Screenshot below is as I am wrtiting this lol.

 

those temps look good. would undervolting mean i'd get even lower clocks than the reviews? (they say it throttles from 3.9 to about 3.1)



i have to deal with Visual Studio, project, excel, and visio in school

and i want to get into premiere, lightroom, and photoshop.

my concern was let say im rendering something (probably nothing huge at first) would the 8750h throttling to 3.1 Ghz hurt

 

No undervolting means you get the same clocks with less volts, less volts means less powe r and less heat. Less heat is less throttling and potentially higher base clock.

Underclocking = lowering clocks.

You'll note from my picture my 7700 is at 3.5Ghz... non turbo it is a 2.8 Ghz chip..

 

All core boost 7700Hq = 3.4GHz.

 

got it, never rly played with my cpu's before.

3.1 on 6 cores is still better than 3.5 on 4 cores for work right?

 

More cores is normally better. As long clock speed aint totally crippled. But still not 3.5 on all 4 cores https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/core_i7/i7-7700hq

 

thx then that settles it, will try to save up for the 8750h instead then, its about $650 more.





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Yes but Throttle stop let's me change that up to 3.8Ghz.

I have it set for 3.6GHz and it boosts to 3.5 reliably under load.

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A 7700HQ can not run at 3.5 ghz on all four cores. It's impossible.

 

Ok. Download Blender [Blender is a well suited for stress tests—Benchmarking]. + the BMW demo file. You can as well find other benchmark or stress test tool from my info page . Run HWiNFO64 + Blender as showed in the pict below. Remember put High Performance power plan in windows to stop any clock drops (ThrottleStop Speed Shift - Epp 0 work as well). Post pict and results afterwards. Thanks


Or just run the Aida stress test as the guide in this link . Blender is a free tool and Aida64 can be used as demo.

Edit. I can guarantee you that you won't see 3.5 GHz on all 4 cores during the tests. Will never ever happen. Only a small chance if you can raise the BCLK clock frequency. More likely you are being led/lured by the (software polling frecuency period which run too slow). Not fast enough to show real time clock speed on all cores.

 

isnt the 7700hq locked? how do you explain OC'ing it to 3.5, cos its 4 core turbo is locked to 3.4

 

Undervolt + Disable turbo in games that are not too CPU-Intensive = You'll get excellent temps.

 

As requesated:

Yep its 3.4

 

So, MC has the GE63 RGB with 8750H/1070/16GB/256GB SSD/1TB for $1500. Does anyone here now have the GE63 with the 8750H CPU. How is their thermal solution compared to AW 15R4. Trying to find out how the temps are while playing games.

I currently have the AW15R4 from BB, but am seeing very high temps and thermal throttling. I have been able to control it via TS somewhat by undevolting and reducing the CPU multiplier.

Thanks for any input.

 

I curerently have the MSI GE63VR (GTX 1070). I get frames of around 65-75 in ultra settings for titles like Aragami, Sleeping Dogs, PUBG, WItcher 3 etc. It stays the same in the lowest graphics settings. Is my CPU bottlenecking?

Also, I have high performance enabled in both power settings and in the Nvidia control panel.

 

Anyone?

 

So I just got the newest version of this from Microcenter today. I had trouble figuring it out, does anyone know if this laptop with the 8750H has a 1070 or 1070 maxq? Half the reviews imply it's max q, half say it specifically isn't. Anyone know how to check with the hardware physically in hand?

Also any questions?

 

gpu-z should tell you. i ordered mine from xotic last week, theyre saying its a non-max card. i'll check when it arrives in a few weeks

 

I believe it’s the full 1070. We ran some benchmarks between this model and the Alienware 15R4 at MC. They were the same. And I know the 15R4 has the full 1070.

I would like to know how the thermals are on this laptop. If you could run some stress tests. That would be helpful. I am also looking at this model.

 

Yup, checked it out. I believe this is a 1070 non Max Q just off the boost/base clocks?

 

max-q is 1101 MHz i believe so yes its regular, also gpu z would say "1070 with Max-Q design" instead of 1070

 

I would like ot run some benchmarks as well. Any suggestions on what to run? I am coming from a Eurocom M5 Pro (think it's a 3 year old P6XX series Clevo) with a 970M so not sure on what to test right now.

 

Have you tried 3DMark? https://www.3dmark.com/

 

Might try it next. Trying passmark first as it was free. Not liking what I am seeing which might line up with what I saw in game.

I ran passmark 3d test and got REALLY bad numbers. Like 5.5k when average is almost double that. Trying to figure out why right now.

 

Which model of system did you run the benchmark on?

 

8RF-603US

just retest, I think maybe I had the fan profiles changed in a way that was massively throttling it. My Eurocom didn't have any real profiles, was just always "go" as it were. Now getting 11.6k on 3d test with passmark.

 

Please also try testing on both 411.63 & 399.24 drivers.

 

@TimeToTilt. Can you also run some thermal tests. Trying to find out what the CPU temps are under stress load. Thanks.