MSI GE63VR / GE73VR Raider Laptops

no difference

 

Nvm not a big deal hehe

 

Anyone repasted this laptop with lm??? Have done two repaste so far.
One with kryonaut and another with gelid gc extreme. Found the kryonaut to be better on the temps about 2-3 degrees and it was a lot easier to spread compared to the gelid cause of the viscosity.

Wanna move towards lm for my cpu now. Gpu temps seems just to peak at 70.
Just have two concerns.
Will the lm corrod my heatsink??? If im not wrong. It uses a copper heatsink. And gallium will react with copper. ( correct me on this. Opening it so many times but i cant rmb what heatsink it is lol)

Secondly is wither this will spill. I move around a lot with this laptop. I heard done people saying their lm have slipped out of the ihs while some people say its just poor heatsink fitting or too much lm those it overflowed.

Would like to hear anyones thoughts on these. Also some resellers do offer lm as an option for their thermal paste.

 

You can turn the mouse pad off. I have that option when i plug in a mouse.

 

Unfortunately I can't help you but I do have a question:
Do you have any pictures of the repaste? I wanna repaste my GE63VR since the stock paste doesn't seem to be too good, and I think it has already started to get worse.
But I'm pretty scared of repasting and have 0 experience.

 

Didnt take any pictures, im sorry. But theres a youtube video in korean this guy repasted his with kryonaut. You should take a look. Its korean but you can see the steps.

Its quite easy after one or two repaste you know what to do and expect. Just be really careful.

 

Thanks will look it up!

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Can anyone recommend me a USB C dock that has the following:
- USB 3.0
- LAN
- HDMI
- Mini DisplayPort

Then I would only need to plug in power and one usb c cable when arriving at work.

 

https://www.amazon.com/IOGEAR-Compa....0+-+LAN+-+HDMI+-+Mini+DisplayPort+dock+USB+C

 

Hello everyone

i bought GE63 with 1070 gtx , didn't thought this laptop is really powerful , i bought DELL 2761DG monitor which is 1440p 144hz most time playing destiny 2 im getting 70-75 fps on highest graphic quality for a portable laptop this is decent for me below 60 not worth to mention

in other hand i have clevo with 980 gtx im getting 60-65 fps on high

regarding the fan noise i don't feel its noisy to me but if u have sensitive ears its a bit noisy for u

thanks to @Donald@HIDevolution

 

What are your idle temps for CPU and GPU for comparison guys?

 

Will this memory be OK for my GE63VR 213? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DGOF0EC/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza

It has slightly lower timings.

 

Yes, that should work...but you can never be positive until you install it.

 

Thanks for the reply. What would actually happen if I put faster memory in? The memory I have is Dual Ranked, not sure about the Kingston.

 

Low 40s
room temps about 28-30

 

That depends on what you are doing, but higher clockspeed, even at a higher CAS latency, will...give you more speed.

 

I mean, putting in the lower latency Ballistic along with the factory 16GB Kingston. It will still run fine, right?

 

Oh, mismatching memory is never a good idea.

 

Is that mismatching latency timings are a bad idea or different brands in general? I was thinking of going for this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-CT16G4SFD824A-PC4-19200-SODIMM-260-Pin/dp/B019FRBHZ0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1517442918&sr=8-1&keywords=crucial+16gb+sodimm+ddr4&th=1

alongside the factory kingston 16gn already inside. the timings are the same

 

If you got the ram stick for free, then test it as it's free. If you buy new one, stick to what you already have. Never a good idea mix and match memory sticks. Can work, but not always. Even within same brand can be problematic. Be sure you can return it if it wont work as expected.

 

Gents,
looking to get a GE63VR Raider -075, and was curious about a few things. Looking to buy it through HIDevolution, and the default setup has 1x16gb memory. Do you guys recommend going with that or just upgrading to the 2x8gb. My main purpose for the laptop is standard MS Office work and RTS gaming (total war, sins of a solar empire, etc.). Would it have much of an impact?

Also, has anyone got any benchmarks and temps for running a RTS game vice just FPS?

Thanks!

 

You really want to be in Dual Channel for optimal performance. I suggest you upgrade to 2x 16GB for 32GB and for future proofing or if budget is really a concern, then do 2x8 GB

 

Thanks for the reply Phoenix. Had another question for you. Is there a way to get rid of the red stripes on the lid? I know we can control their lighting but I mean just cover them up for professional settings. I plan on doing the stealth setting for the dragon logo too. I really like the laptop but is one area where Clevo models win out for me, but performance wise it seems like the two are the same with MSi having better cooling so less throttling.

Thanks

 

If you don't quote me in the message that I posted, then I don't get notified that you replied again so keep that in mind for future posts if you want faster answers.

when you get Stealth upgrade, the red stripes go away and are black.

 

@Phoenix
Thanks man for the reply and the heads up for the quote. Also thanks for the info for the stealth. Didn’t know that about the red stripes only that the dragon is de-lit. Good to know it does the stripes as well which reinforces that decision. Thanks again.

 

@Phoenix
How do you pm on this? Is it start a new conversation in the inbox? I tried doing that as I had a couple more questions for ya. Thanks

 

I don't do PMs dude. Only public discussions on the forum.

Do you know how many PMs I'd get per day if I open up my inbox to every one? LOL I really have no time for that and I hate PMs and emails.

 

Haha no worries man. Was just gonna ask your thoughts on the Raider 075 vs the P650hs-g. Donald has pretty much talked me into the MSI I was just curious what you thought.

 

MSI. every day of the week. Better driver support, better keyboard, better looks (IMO), and better cooling.

 

I cannot record my desktop with nvidia instant reply because my msi ge63vr has optimus.
Can I disable optimus completely? (probably in bios?) Is this recommended?

 

Impossible. The only solution would be to sell your GE63VR and get a proper G-Sync laptop, maybe GT62, GT72, GT73 or GT75...

 

Would a Samsung PM951 M.2 PCI Express Gen3 x4 work on this laptop?

 

is the PM951 better or the nvme EVO/Pro? Whats the difference?

 

PM951 is the old OEM client drive. Better go for the newer Evo/Pro

 

PM951 is cheaper, a tad faster than the Intel 600P, but definitely slower than the evo/pro line.

 

You should keep an eye out for Samsung SSD deals. Sometimes you can get discounts. I got a 1TB Samsung 960 Evo for a sweet deal a while ago. Here is the link for the expired deal: https://slickdeals.net/f/10499544-s...nt-required?src=SiteSearchV2_SearchBarV2Algo1

 

Or, you could get a nice 1TB M.2 SATA for $289, about $100 cheaper per unit, saving $200-$400 overall.
https://www.google.com/shopping/product/8603472202318663890

Crucial MX300 1TB 3D NAND SATA M.2 (2280) Internal SSD - CT1050MX300SSD4
https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-MX300-NAND-SATA-Internal/dp/B01L80DH1Y

• Sequential reads/writes up to 530 / 510 MB/s on all file types
• Random reads/writes up to 92K / 83K on all file types
• Over 90x more energy efficient than a typical hard drive
• Accelerated by Micron 3D NAND technology
• Dynamic Write acceleration delivers faster saves and file transfers

For most operations you won't notice any difference for all that extra money wasted on NVME M.2's, and you'll run cooler as well - then NVME SSD's put out a lot more heat and use more power.

The only advantage I can see to the NVME M.2's is if you want 2TB SSD's, as for now the only one's are available with NVME interfaces, the several announced 2TB m.2 SATA SSD's haven't shipped yet.

Samsung 960 PRO Series - 2TB PCIe NVMe - M.2 Internal SSD (MZ-V6P2T0BW)
Price: $1,249.00
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-960-PRO-Internal-MZ-V6P2T0BW/dp/B01LY3Y9PH

• M.2 (2280) - PCIe 3.0 x4 NVM Express SSD for Client PCs
• Sequential Read Speeds up to 3500MB/s and Sequential Write Speeds up to 2100MB/s

 

I agree....except we have been shipping the M.2 2TB SATA SSDs for a while now.

 

Found it...

SAMSUNG 860 EVO Series M.2 2280 2 TB SATA III 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-N6E2T0BW - $649
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147681

Samsung 2TB 860 EVO SATA III M.2 Internal SSD - $649
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1382505-REG/samsung_mz_n6e2t0bw_860_evo_2tb_internal.html

So, now there's no good reason for most people to get an M.2 NVME SSD, except to blow cash for no good reason.

Or, do you offer a different make / model? I thought WD was coming out with one too...

 

Check our Customizers for pricing.

We don't advertise the brand or model of the HIDevolution Approved because we don't always use the same ones, and don't want to be locked in to any particular brand...so we can use either one

 

Hello, this might be a dumb question... Is it possible to have "Ripple Effect" on ge63vr keyboard? I cant seem to find it in steel series.

Thanks

 

Hey guys. Just repasted my cpu with conductonaut. I see no temp improves at all... its like the same as when i repasted with kryonaunt. Is it cause i didnt apply enough lm????

Should i apply more???

 

I expect you used Liqud metal on both the Die and Heatsink. And checked how the spread was with the old thermal paste. Aka good contact between Die and HS.

 

Not surprisingly this happens from time to time, if good thermal pastes are used, you have a very flat contact surface, and you used good technique applying and tightening the contact, there will be little or no difference - no further improvement.

I've seen it happen with Asus re-pastes on their highest end models, the temps don't improve but a few degree's from stock.

 

I applied on both die and heatsink. But i was afraid of applying too much. I tink i applied too little.

 

So its the technique of my application i suppose???

 

Open up and check. Post screenshoot of Die and Heatsink. This is more like a guess contest.

 

@Potato_farm - hang on, if you are happy with what you have then call it done.

If you lift the heatsinks to "check it out", you'll need to re-apply again, basically re-pasting once again. If you just push the heatplate's back down without re-application, you might introduce bubbles in the paste - it most likely won't be as good of temps after fastening it back up.

It might not be as good this time, there's always that chance... or another mistake could happen causing damage. Each time you open it up you could "drop a screw driver" onto something delicate.

Is it worth pulling apart for a few more C's potential? Are you thermal throttling under heavy load? If not, you're done.

with LM you definitely don't want "too much", and have it squeeze out onto vulnerable parts... Pzzzap!

 

He get double... Can see if the application is safe + proper done(right amount). New LM is easy... Just paint it back. Worse with an old LM.

 

@Potato_farm - oh yeah, that's even worse of a pain, cleaning off the old LM before re-applying.

IDK, I'd wait a day or two and use it and see if the thermals improve, or get worse, or stay the same.

The good thing about having "too little" LM is that there isn't "too much" that will leak out...

 

If i were to open it up to apply more lm would i have to clean up the old one or am i able to just add more above it????

Opening up again reintroduces bubbles for the lm, what if i were to just respread it out evenly? Since lm remains liquid and doesnt hardern up